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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:00 pm

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In post 567, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 543, Varsoon wrote:Just gonna bring this into overdrive, actually, and go for the dunk.
Day Vig: Shoshin the Worst
Actually lack of flavour is likely fake
So stw, why didn’t you state you thought this when I asked?
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:01 pm

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In post 1194, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1189, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1163, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1156, profii wrote:
In post 1132, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1130, Shoshin the worst wrote:if Kokichi just genuinely doesn't follow through on catching up he's obviously a fierce contender. I see nothing to townread from either of them but his catchup promise over just a naked vote is closer to playing in good faith than Nico's lurking/naked vote/complaining thing.
Hi The Worst
it others me that i call out TWs blatant pocketing on the last page and whoosh gone i have to say
Wait sorry what pocketing? The duck head pockets as both alignments and has no problems talking about pocketing. I'm not sure what you consider pocketing here.
Well hi Shoshin, for a hydra that claims to coordinate all posts with each other this post strikes as something you haven’t conferred over - almost like my accusation of this pocketing has shook you a little bit - guess I’m on the money
This is a brilliant way not to answer my question. What about this strikes you as pocketing and why do you think it's an issue I walked away from my PC at the time?
I thought it was fairly obvious and didn’t warrant a specific answer - no ones really going pocketing what? So I’ll leave it at that

The walking away bit might have been coincidental

The breaking out into 2 heads was the most interesting though
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:03 pm

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In post 577, Shoshin the worst wrote:in this list I could confidently pocket Taly, Nancy and you. I could give it a go with pintu but I'm not sure it'd get me anywhere. I used to be able to pocket brass but posthiatus I'm not sure how he'd take it. So I think me scumreading you and not cutely backing down when you started posting is not remotely a scumtell.

I don't understand why you think there's no town motivation in our slot pushing/scumreading you. It's pretty simple. We scumread you.
The fact you can't engage with me about why we shouldn't scumread you or should townread you had me baffled.

Imagine in newbie 1907 for example if you and Nauci had fleshed out why you were misreading each other day two. think about how that kind of conversation might play out as an example.

sorry there's few ways to illustrate my point effectively here
What’s the point of this? And iirc you’ve already got Taly and Mephistophanes pocketed, idk about AC
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:08 pm

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hello and also goodnight, this is 5am Chara reporting in for shitty, shitty, tired gutreads.
not pocketed by STW, i have my eye on them. that is all. happy birthday Gamma.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:12 pm

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In post 586, Shoshin the worst wrote:
We honestly can't apply BoP because we have no idea what people's alignments are. More that we think the subconscious mindset you've presented with some of your reads has been scum indicative.

We really don't believe in reading people via bop at all. Categorically.

I was looking for some stuff in this game which I should townread. Sorry if this felt like a breakthrough but I'm not sure how to see anything AI in the BoP argument. It might be slightly towny because of the disconnect maybe? But then scum who are caught for the wrong reason often react the same way. So I'm quite net null on it :(
The fuck is the point of BoP if that’s your excuse to not use it? And BoP (if the P is for Proficiency) is a useful tool on stronger players. So Ellibereth, 100% a BoP target, but I don’t think I’d BoP anyone here.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:15 pm

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In post 596, Taly wrote:ill get to this thread later, my college classes started today

from skimming, id like to see
STW
actually respond to certain posts that they say they're formulating a response for

U2's
making posts with more than 1-sentence explanations fort their thoughts :D

i keep forgettin
proflavor, nicorobin, and kokichi
are in this game.

if someone wants to make things easier to navigate through the threads content, ask me questions
Oof, I’ve seen ProFlavor posting consistently so wdym you keep forgetting they’re in the game?
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:16 pm

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BoP me Chara
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:17 pm

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In post 611, Shoshin the worst wrote:@URAP2
We slightly townread ProFlavor but it's largely meta related and quite a weak townread. I think him joining us on you is slightly town indicative but only in a vacuum that it's the kind of thing profii does without paying attention to the gamestate (he followed his scumread onto another scumread). I'd also probably expect a little bit more from Flavour as scum here. He doesn't carry the energy he usually puts into scumming.

Chara is creeping up our list but it's also
the first townread we are wrong on
(outside of need to sort Varsoon). Its scumgame is pretty good and I think pocketing us at the time it questioned Varsoon on his read of us would be genuinely perfect timing. For the mort part though that slot is town, outside of paranoia.

Alchemist we're currently fairly strongly town on, I think we have spoken about this.
Hol up, what’s with the phrasing?
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:18 pm

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-A very hasty Emerald
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:20 pm

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In post 619, Varsoon wrote:I'm also informed, if you recall, that scum has at least one 'ground' role.
It doesn't end the day, no worries.

-V
That’s info you should holster til massclaim imo
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:29 pm

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In post 677, Varsoon wrote:No, seriously, what the fuck
If my kill fails on you, why wouldn't you claim that shit immediately?
So like, stw made reads in response to the vig shot. So I don’t think they’re BP. So either the vig was fake or there’s some other intervention. Varsoon, since you don’t seem to care about what info you leak, does your vig shot not work on ground/air units?
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:34 pm

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In post 694, Taly wrote:Let's not get personal here.

Does anyone have meta with
Nicorobin
? I've seen them in multiple games before but its impossible to filter their gameplay because of how vague it is regardless of play.

In
Maria's Anime Binge
she was town and was nonexistent like now.
Nico can also be non-existent as scum
A good example is the friemds mafia game she was in, where not only did she lurk hardcore, she used a ton of selfmeta to defend herself.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:37 pm

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In post 720, Tibor and Lumia wrote:I know there's Zerg, Terran and the cool race I played as which literally I don't remember the name of. And I lost every game.

I am ashamed by how little I know of any RTS that is not Age of Empires 3.

-Brass (I wouldn't make Gamma own up to this)
FYI I haven’t played many RTS games ever, I prefer Turn Based Strategy. Fire Emblem and Advance Wars are great games.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:40 pm

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In post 735, u r a person 2 wrote:Tibor vote happened this way:

STW offered a chance to cooperate when they asked who we should vote for
I gave them a list of slots I was interested in getting more from
STW picked T&L
So that's where I voted.
It wasn't a scum read. I wasn't going to turn down the opportunity STW presented pretty much regardless of whom they picked.

Having had the opportunity to cooperate with STW like that, my gut likes them more, but I'm going to go back through the whole exchange tomorrow to see what fresh eyes can glean.
It was also fruitful in that I like my T&L read more now.

I understand if it seems weird, but you should check out some of my games. A great example would be between CheekyTeeky and myself in newbie 1905. Very similar trajectory. We tunneled one another, and then we just sort of started cooperating and it was good.
So you voted to try and ally yourself with stw. That’s the epitome of town behavior :roll:
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:45 pm

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In post 786, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 576, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 571, Almost Chara wrote:based on Nico's meta, i'm townleaning her slot for now. slightly.
~Chara
Me too. 1%.
Varsoon's meta comment made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
Why is everyone ignoring, what clearly looks like unhappiness with her role pm?

Her not responding to my question, doesn’t look too great either. Nico, doesn’t deserve townie pints for jack, so far. :roll:
Bruh now that you mention this I get it 100%
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:00 am

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In post 831, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 759, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 301, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Sorry, my memory on who was what in Undertale is fuzzy.
Me, A50, B&M, and Venmar/Firebringer were the scumteam
All else were town
Make sense?
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Maid Cafe?
They were town, what of it?
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:30 am

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In post 1200, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 567, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 543, Varsoon wrote:Just gonna bring this into overdrive, actually, and go for the dunk.
Day Vig: Shoshin the Worst
Actually lack of flavour is likely fake
So stw, why didn’t you state you thought this when I asked?
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I stated the thought the exact moment it occurred to me.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:31 am

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In post 1201, ProFlavor wrote:I thought it was fairly obvious and didn’t warrant a specific answer - no ones really going pocketing what? So I’ll leave it at that

The walking away bit might have been coincidental

The breaking out into 2 heads was the most interesting though
What do you mean about breaking into 2 heads? and what about it interests you?
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:32 am

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In post 1207, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 611, Shoshin the worst wrote:@URAP2
We slightly townread ProFlavor but it's largely meta related and quite a weak townread. I think him joining us on you is slightly town indicative but only in a vacuum that it's the kind of thing profii does without paying attention to the gamestate (he followed his scumread onto another scumread). I'd also probably expect a little bit more from Flavour as scum here. He doesn't carry the energy he usually puts into scumming.

Chara is creeping up our list but it's also
the first townread we are wrong on
(outside of need to sort Varsoon). Its scumgame is pretty good and I think pocketing us at the time it questioned Varsoon on his read of us would be genuinely perfect timing. For the mort part though that slot is town, outside of paranoia.

Alchemist we're currently fairly strongly town on, I think we have spoken about this.
Hol up, what’s with the phrasing?
We were originally slightly paranoid and nervous about townreading them so easily. We aren't now though.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:51 am

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In post 1217, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1201, ProFlavor wrote:I thought it was fairly obvious and didn’t warrant a specific answer - no ones really going pocketing what? So I’ll leave it at that

The walking away bit might have been coincidental

The breaking out into 2 heads was the most interesting though
What do you mean about breaking into 2 heads? and what about it interests you?
I’m interested to see if the rest of the group find this note worthy so I’ll come back to this in a couple pages time
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:10 am

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In post 1215, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 831, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 759, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 301, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Sorry, my memory on who was what in Undertale is fuzzy.
Me, A50, B&M, and Venmar/Firebringer were the scumteam
All else were town
Make sense?
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Maid Cafe?
They were town, what of it?
Yeah, I mixed you up with them. :lol:
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:13 am

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Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:25 am

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In post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbh
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:14 am

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In post 1190, Michael Scott wrote:I'm comfortable with my vote on Nico. I think a scum flip there would be useful anyway, given we have associatives already WRT who's trying to lead away from her lynch, and such.

Is there anyone convincingly scum at this point? I'm not seeing scum!STW how Varsoon is.
Mewtaph is scum.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:18 am

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In post 432, NicoRobin wrote:Baa, baa, black shiiiipppp
In post 912, Krazy wrote:NicoRobin is being replaced. Nico can remain in the game if they post game-advancing content before a replacement is found. (Last prodge does not adhere to rule for prodges, which must include some game advancing content)
In post 969, NicoRobin wrote:VOTE: Shoshin
@Mephistophanes, I think they just voted the leading wagon at the time as a prod dodge, not as an actual read.
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