Hmm, now why doesn't this seem genuine?
VOTE: Dva
Hmm, now why doesn't this seem genuine?
It's the way that that post is phrased. It gives me scum vibes because I'm thinking that if DVa were actually town, she'd have shown a more positive attitude. If she thinks that the setup is scumsided (I can kind of see why, I think) then shouldn't that make her want to win more if she's town?In post 19, Auro wrote:Which part, the vote on me or "this is a scumsided setup"?In post 14, Egix96 wrote:Hmm, now why doesn't this seem genuine?
If it's the latter, she did express the same to me while the game was still in sign-ups.
@Bolded bit: I'm surprised that you think this, considering what she managed to get away with in Newbie 1893.In post 37, Auro wrote:@Egix: So you're finding the cynicism scummy --I'm not particularly feeling she'd fake that as scum, although the tone does bother me slightly.
Agreed.In post 43, rb wrote:wow im gonna go ahead and say that the persivul thing probably is NAI and following it is dumb imo
In post 44, Lamees wrote:@rb what power role would you choose as scum?
As far as I can tell, you still haven't explained why you asked them this. What were you planning to achieve?In post 47, Lamees wrote:@auro what power role would you choose as scum?
I'm guessing that town!DVa would have appreciated the challenge of playing as town in a setup that she herself perceived to be imbalanced against that alignment. It's not a particularly strong tell, but it's a start.Something_Smart wrote:What?In post 28, Egix96 wrote:If she thinks that the setup is scumsided (I can kind of see why, I think) then shouldn't that make her want to win more if she's town?
okIn post 63, Auro wrote:I'm not saying it's beyond scum!her. I'm saying I don't think she'd choose to fake that as scum, get what I mean?In post 62, Egix96 wrote:@Bolded bit: I'm surprised that you think this, considering what she managed to get away with in Newbie 1893.
Nidoking from Pokemon CrystalIn post 68, DVa wrote:Damn Egix, from the cute dog avi to the REALLY cute kitsune avi
What did you have when we first met? It wasn't the dog avi then right?
If it's "could be town, could be scum" then I think that means it's better to say it's NAI rather then WIFOM.In post 78, Leodanny wrote:It’s WIFOM LAMIST, right?
This question is meant for everyone right? I would guess one but it could be two.
NahIn post 139, rb wrote:i townread malaIn post 130, Malakitty wrote:Herro y’all I’m going to be here later I skimmed and I see some familiar faces
I look forward to killing all of the scum for u
Nova first, then either YC or Mala.In post 150, rb wrote:wow who is the one and who would the two be imoIn post 145, Egix96 wrote:This question is meant for everyone right? I would guess one but it could be two.
In post 205, Leodanny wrote:I don’t really change votes, so I would wait for something more.
In this case though, you are right, I should probably vote someone else.
VOTE: rb
Not to me either.In post 206, Thor665 wrote:This is not thrilling to me.
This seems a bit too naive to me. You don't seem to be weighing up the possibility of Lamees being a townie who's being pushed on by scum.In post 227, YyottaCat wrote:Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that
Yeah, I'm not feeling like Lamees is the right choice either. I'm really not sure what to make of rb though, I'd rather vote elsewhere.In post 236, Auro wrote:I'm not down for a Lamees lynch. She's very easy mislynch bait, often looks scummy early in the game, and I think a deeper study of her scumgame can reveal potential scumtells of hers.
Yeah that's the thing, it's hard to tell if an interaction is TvS or TvT, especially on D1.In post 245, rb wrote:wow you're either with me or against me imo
In what way?In post 250, Something_Smart wrote:I thought the blatant self-contradiction in 233 was towny
In post 273, Auro wrote:@EgixIn post 233, Lamees wrote:Anyway, this is def not town malakitty.Town malakitty was less aggressive with pushes and was more prone to sheep other players. (In the game we played together at least).Then again I'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game together.
Yes yes, I knew where the self-contradiction was. I was asking Smart why he thought it was towny.In post 274, Auro wrote:FWIW, I see it as a progression of her thoughts, not necessarily a "blatant contradiction". That's Lamees for ya.
Well you wouldn't contradict yourself on purpose, would you?In post 277, Lamees wrote:Even if there was contradiction (which there isn't) how is it even alignment indicative? Why would I as scum make contradicting posts?
It's rather premature for a claim. I'm not sure whether or not to believe it at this point.In post 401, Persivul wrote:Yes I'm needy , please talk to me.
What do you think of the fact that Lamees claimed at L-3?
Sorry, I needed to dogsit for a while. No need to get angry.
I was thinking that they were thinking they'd been caught and started fooling around (e.g. hahaha spam, the Dunnstral vote) but yeah you seem to be seeing what I'm seeing.In post 432, Lamees wrote:Yeah I did notice rb sounded more like frustrated scum had just lost their lynch after my claim. He/she was whining big time.
I don't think those fractions are quite right. Shouldn't the denominator be (# of remaining players - 1) rather than (# of remaining town - 1)?In post 435, Lamees wrote:3/7 can work too I guess. But 3/9 is the worst possible case.
As far as I can see, you haven't put forward an actual case against him... so why should we?In post 485, rb wrote:wow can we just lynch dunnstral already imo
Fair response. But the problem I'm seeing here is that your push on Dunnstral basically boils down to you just pointing your fingers at him and saying "don't lynch me, lynch him instead!" At least, that's how I see it.In post 490, rb wrote:well i pretty clearly have opinions on who not to lynch as well so the idea that it's random is obviously wrong
also would you not also prefer to lynch someone else? i don't get it
Seconded.In post 496, Dunnstral wrote:Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role
To be specific, "hanging Lamees isn't good play" is the part I agree with.In post 503, Persivul wrote:To both: what's the downside to scum fake claiming that role?In post 502, Egix96 wrote:Seconded.In post 496, Dunnstral wrote:Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role
This is what I'm referring to. It really remnds me of when she shouted "I am fucking town" at me in 1893.In post 559, DVa wrote:YESIn post 556, rb wrote:'ask the people who don't talk what they think'
Do you not fucking get that?
GET THEM
TO TALK
Saying "I'm voting you because you're talking" is the stupidest fucking thing I think I've seen all day
Right.In post 597, rb wrote:what do you mean?
DVa said i was voting people for talking, so i'm demonstrating what that actually looks like
So do I tbh.In post 628, Persivul wrote:I really hate comments like this.In post 605, Auro wrote:Neither of you are going to be today's lynches, so let's not have that spiral.
Umm....... yeah. That part looks just a teeny bit like a slip.In post 644, DVa wrote:That's definitely a very good argument, Lamees, a solid rebuttal to my last list
VOTE: DVa
that's L-1
no one who hammers here should be scumread for hammeringalthough you're welcome to scumread for other reasons if you want
come on, save MDS the replacement hassle
UMMMMMMMMIn post 649, DVa wrote:If I am scum, I am anti-spewing to avoid giving associative tells with my scumbuddies.
In post 652, Auro wrote:Town statistically wins more on D1 MLs than D1 scum-lynches? That doesn't feel right at all, and it doesn't even make sense.In post 649, DVa wrote:If I am scum, I am anti-spewing to avoid giving associative tells with my scumbuddies.
If I am town, statistically town has a higher rate of winning on a day 1 mislynch and there's no reason it shouldn't be me if I'm replacing out anyway.
I'm not hammering you now. However, I do think you're scum because I'd never expect town!DVa to gamethrow. I'm wondering whether I should wait for your replacement just in case, since 7 days, or go ahead. I can't think of any town PR that's better lynched, either.
I think you should claim right now.
In post 653, DVa wrote:I will only claim if you promise to hammer me right now after the claim, otherwise I will never claim under any conditions.
See, now that's anti-town behavior right there. You should definitely hammer me.
In post 654, Auro wrote:Haha, no ways, not letting you have that satisfaction.
You should've self-hammered when someone got you to L-1 instead if you wanted to stop the day early and stop us from finding associations.
I want to hear from the rest of town what they make of this.
Also need to check whether you have a meta of bussing partners early in the game, and study other associations with you. I think Bristep is town though, considering that you asked to replace out too.
Hot take: All this you see here is scum theatre.In post 655, DVa wrote:I would soft bus or be non commital so I am probably scum with thor who I havent interacted with much. Also my push on notnova wasnt very good so I could be scum with him too. Since our scum team is only 3 people I guess mala has to be town.
But youve missed a chance for a claim so if you want that you really will have to wait for a replacement.
Ok bye list, sorry Dunn and Auro for not being better scum to catch/willing to deal with this list.
- Possibly. Considering that you two have wolfed together before, I wouldn't be surprised if you (or DVa) came up with that.In post 675, Auro wrote:Egix, do you think scum!me and scum!DVa planned her self-vote?
Do you not think I would've hammered her for the towncred, if I was bussing her after the self-vote?
Zombie = delayed lynchproof I thinkIn post 682, Leodanny wrote:Why’d she want to get lynched if she is zombie?
Yes. The thing is, once you've requested to sub out, you are meant to STOP POSTING. DVa not doing that is just breaking the rules.In post 716, Dunnstral wrote:You're having trouble understanding because she wasn't playing strategical after requesting replacement
@First sentence: So you think it's NAI then? Technically it's not OGI though because it's still in the game thread.In post 719, bristep123 wrote:The post replacement request behaviour could be read so many ways. If you felt she was scum before that then that's where the gut should go. Much like trying to lynch off mechanics lynching off rule breaking is suspect to me.
Also DLA has pinged for me by congratulating Something Smart on good play, as I've not seen that at all especially as they were totally on board for lynching a claimed angel.
It's risky not to lynch a slot that came very close to outright claiming to be scum.In post 720, Dunnstral wrote:ok? That's not my problem, why should we vote her for that? I don't understand what the 'risk' is - I think the slot was townIn post 717, Egix96 wrote:Yes. The thing is, once you've requested to sub out, you are meant to STOP POSTING. DVa not doing that is just breaking the rules.
As of right now, my scum pool looks like this:
Because it's too wide, or because you're in it?In post 755, Dunnstral wrote:That scum pool is really bad
- Reactions from you mainly.In post 772, Auro wrote:Reactions just from me or from the others as well?In post 756, Egix96 wrote:It was a reaction test.In post 754, Auro wrote:What happened to your "hot take"?
I'm assuming you either towned or nulled me on my reaction, since I'm not in your scumpool.
What would you have expected scum!Auro to say in that situation? What did I say that you don't think comes from scum?
The first sentence reads pretty genuine to me. Saying that you wouldn't have let her done the "self-voting crap" is sort of a WIFOM-y argument, but you calling it crap gives me a vibe that you have a genuine disdain for that strategy.In post 680, Auro wrote:I don't see any benefit in planning to have her self-vote and then suddenly have me distance from her after townreading and defending that slot, do you?
A lot of fuss, over DVa self-voting, scumclaiming and open wolfing? What do you expect town!Auro to say in this situation? I mean if I didn't want to lose my scumbuddy DVa, I wouldn't have let her done the self-voting crap anyway.
VOTE: DarkLightA, L-2
In all honestly, it's mainly because of his predecessor's words and actions. Admittedly though, if he is scum, I can kinda empathise with him since it's not his fault that DVa had a bit of a freakout.In post 775, Thor665 wrote:Why Darklight?
In post 778, Malakitty wrote:can I join, even if you’re not my typeIn post 741, Thor665 wrote:Only if you join us.
I find it odd that you two chose to specifically comment on the whole "get a room" thing when there were some other, more pertinent things that you could have talked about instead.In post 779, Leodanny wrote:Who’s paying?
Doesn't seem to me like he's playing too differently from Newbie 1898. At the same time though, I'm thinking that if he were town, he'd be able to... how should I put this...In post 792, Persivul wrote:To those without a vote (Egix96, Malakitty, Dunnstral, Auro):
Read Leodanny's ISO and either vote there, or explain why you won't.
I'd be interested if you could elaborate on this. But if you think I'm scum and you don't want to give me any ideas, then that's fine too.
And I though my scum pool had too many names...In post 848, Lamees wrote:Town-
Leodanny
Null-
Bristep123
Dunnstral
Nako
Egix96
Scum-
Auro
Persivul
Malakitty
Rb
Something_smart
DLA
Thor
In post 867, Auro wrote:Wait,In post 862, Egix96 wrote:But if you think I'm scum and you don't want to give me any ideas, then that's fine too.hot take- was that a reaction test too?