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Post Post #82 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:16 am

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In post 78, Chateau Lobby wrote:
Scum People:

AP :left:
Springtrap :left:
0verki11 :left:

Probably.
THIS is actually a scum claim. You say Spring is Scum, and he has a wagon on him already, so you start a new wagon on me??

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Post Post #83 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:17 am

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FU..N! Fun is what I say.

@Mod: Please replace AP with A50 already. Thank you.

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Post Post #117 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:24 am

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In post 94, Rob14 wrote:
Almost50 replaces AP, who I take it is his alt? Please confirm that just to be clear, thanks.
YES. AP is my alt. Thank you :)

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Post Post #118 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:27 am

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In post 98, Chateau Lobby wrote:AP replacing with an alt.
His scum is exposed.
Doesn't want to ruin meta of AP.
Now
VOTE: Almost50.
Must vote him now.
Ruin meta for AP???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

AP is a TROLL account. I don't even care whether I win or lose on it, as long as I'm having fun.

Almost50 is my main and is the one I keep stats for.

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Post Post #119 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:36 am

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Only problem now is I can't access the scum PT with A50. :twisted:

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Post Post #127 (isolation #5) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:34 am

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In post 124, Persivul wrote:
In post 117, Almost50 wrote:
In post 94, Rob14 wrote:
Almost50 replaces AP, who I take it is his alt? Please confirm that just to be clear, thanks.
YES. AP is my alt. Thank you :)
Why are you switching accounts for this game?
Because I keep alt slipping and it will be a mess. I thought it better to not confuse myself, he players and the mod.
In post 125, Persivul wrote:
In post 118, Almost50 wrote:Almost50 is my main and is the one I keep stats for.
What are your town and scum stats?
My stats are in my sig. There are games I do not count (generally speaking the games I replace into compose the majority of the games I don't count).

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Post Post #129 (isolation #6) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:37 am

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In post 128, joges wrote:
In post 98, Chateau Lobby wrote:AP replacing with an alt.
His scum is exposed.
Doesn't want to ruin meta of AP.
Now
VOTE: Almost50.
Must vote him now.
I feel this is a huge stretch. I don’t see how it matters. I also don’t see how that player would expectto get away with that. If they always switch when given a certain role/alignment then it would blow their cover eventually. I don’t see someone doing that to their game.
I'm wondering where all these false narratives are coming from. Chateau assumes that AP is my main, when it's not. He thinks AP has a meta, when the only meta AP has is to be jokey and roleplay as Austin Powers.
Then you come to assume I switch accounts all the time which is not true either. I only switched in this game because I alt-slipped and with me playing in several games I felt it won't be the only time I slip, which will become annoying for everyone; including myself.

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Post Post #131 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:50 am

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I see. Sorry I jumped the gun.

FTR, if the switch means anything at all, then it's that I'd have to be more serious in this game since it does count towards my stats now.

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Post Post #133 (isolation #8) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:46 am

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I have nothing for nor against him, tbh.

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Post Post #136 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:08 am

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In post 134, GuyInFreezer wrote:Voting your null read is always a good start.
That'd be true if I had "mixed feelings" about him. Like, if he had said something I deemed Townie and another that hinted Scum and I couldn't decide. But my read on Overkill right now is "He hasn't posted enough for me to get any pings from him at all". What would I be voting him for? To get him to post more? It's too early to call him a lurker/active lurker. To see who's willing to vote him? It is obvious he's low hanging fruit and everyone is willing to. To try and get a claim? That'd be most anti-town at this stage of the game.

In sum, I can't find one good reason to vote Overkill over half the players list.

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Post Post #137 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:11 am

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Also, he's being serious.. like he pointed out Chateau's shade on my Macho claim, and he pointed to Percy that I have my stats in my sig. He's paying attention and has intention to play, so I'm giving him his room.

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Post Post #140 (isolation #11) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:16 am

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Records: W/L
Town: 22/16, Mafia: 5/3, 3P: 1/1

There you go

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Post Post #141 (isolation #12) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:16 am

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^@FL

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Post Post #143 (isolation #13) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:24 am

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The more you try to convince me to unvote spring the more persistent I am that my vote in where it should be.

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Post Post #146 (isolation #14) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:34 am

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No, you're right. And I got at least one good reaction from it already. If spring flips red at any point you'd be my prime suspect for his partner.

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Post Post #150 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:30 pm

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Please do. :)

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Post Post #152 (isolation #16) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:09 pm

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OK..

1- Are you an alt? Do I know you? (No need to out. Just Yes/No will do.) :)

2- Do you have any reads yet (after doing your reread that is)?

Hmm.. I can't think of more questions right now. After all, you hardly posted anything that warrants a real question. I guess I'll wait for you to catch up and answer these 2 questions then decide if I have more questions to throw at you.

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Post Post #188 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:07 am

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In post 181, Chateau Lobby wrote:Let's consolidate our 4 wagons.
Those on spring, move to overkill.
Those on Gamma, move to Persivul.
In post 182, Clemency wrote:split up, gang
VOTE: Chateau

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Post Post #191 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:26 am

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In post 190, Chateau Lobby wrote:Almost50,
You were supposed to
Move your vote to
Overkill.
Why would I try to lynch my scum buddy? :P

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Post Post #192 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:29 am

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But seriously, your wagon hopping is unsettling. You trying to play Town leader is rubbing the wrong way. You SRing my account switch while actively hinting you know me well enough () is alarming. Like, everything you do just begs me to vote you.

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Post Post #196 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:13 am

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In post 195, Chateau Lobby wrote:I do know you. You know me.

Before you ask

Yes, this is an alt.

No, I will not out my main.
That's fair enough, and it supports my argument. Since you do know me then you know there are things I do only as Town, things I do only as scum (and I'm unaware of them, or I would be doing them also as Town or stop doing them as scum), and then there are things that I do as whatever alignment/role I rand. Switching my account is probably NAI, but I have yet to do it as Scum, FTR. It should have been clear to you why I did it though and that it is NAI at worst, but actually Town indicative at best.

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Post Post #202 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:42 am

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In post 201, Persivul wrote:I think that's only L-2. 8 to lynch.
Why the freak would you point this out NOW? Couldn't you just wait to see who will attempt to hammer and/or if Overkill will claim already??

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Post Post #236 (isolation #22) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:36 am

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The mere shear of willingness to preemptively end the day here is alarming, and with everybody ganging up on Overkill I am confident he is Town. Not gonna touch this wagon.

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Post Post #239 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:38 am

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In post 235, Xtoxm wrote:Hey overkill I see you posting elsewhere, come play with us!
Do you think he's a useless scum slot who asked to be bussed for Town cred?

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Post Post #244 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:46 am

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In post 240, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 239, Almost50 wrote:
In post 235, Xtoxm wrote:Hey overkill I see you posting elsewhere, come play with us!
Do you think he's a useless scum slot who asked to be bussed for Town cred?
I mean I just wanted to see his reaction but dipping out from a game at L-1 whilst posting in other games is actually scummy as hell. And idk y ur talking about bussing
Because he can't get to L-1 this fast so early without BOTH his scum buddies actively bussing him.

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Post Post #246 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:48 am

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My theory is Scum ARE pushing Overkill, but it's far from "to lynch them". It's a role fishing scheme to get a claim if that's the case.

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Post Post #248 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:49 am

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In post 245, 0verki11 wrote:Bitch I claim not cit, Im not full claiming D1.
You mean not VT? Oh, well. I guess I was a tad too late outing my theory.

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Post Post #278 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:47 am

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Let me give a hint to those "not in the know" about how serious (i.e. dangerous)
as scum
some of the players in this game are:

Almost50:
Not to be arrogant, but many consider me a very dangerous scum player, and I'm often the N1 investigation check. The downside is when I'm Town I am also often the N1 kill, so you should decide whether to take that risk and check me on N1 or wait to see if I'm dead anyway.

Not_Mafia:
He's dangerous as scum because he's charming. half the players on MS want to policy lynch him for his play, while the other half (myself included) enjoy his company to the point they won't vote him unless he is mod-confirmed scum.

Chateau Lobby:
I don't know exactly who this is, but the play style reminds me of a few dangerous players. (I won't list them so as to not out his true identity according to his wish).

Xtoxm:
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort.

This is NOT to say the others are not good at scum, but I'm pointing out players who probably can win it single handedly for their team.

I'd also keep an eye of Persy, despite my own narrative about him replacing out often as scum. I've seen him do it like 3 times before, but I'm not 100% he'd do that everytime he rolls scum.

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Post Post #279 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:49 am

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Oh, well.. 2 missing slashes ain't nothing.

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Post Post #282 (isolation #29) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:52 am

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In post 275, Persivul wrote:although scum daytalk is now common
Not unless it's announced by mod in the OP, or if scum have an encryptor

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Post Post #283 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:53 am

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^I'm referring to NORMAL games, of course

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Post Post #284 (isolation #31) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 am

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In post 280, Chateau Lobby wrote:Almost50,
You can say you you think
My main is.

I won't confirm of course.
Like I said, your play reminds me of several players. Off the top of my head Nic Coppola is one of them.

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Post Post #285 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:56 am

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In post 281, Persivul wrote:
In post 278, Almost50 wrote:I'd also keep an eye of Persy, despite my own narrative about him replacing out often as scum. I've seen him do it like 3 times before, but I'm not 100% he'd do that everytime he rolls scum.
I love playing scum. I played IMO one of the best scum games ever. When I replace out, it's for reasons other than my alignment.
What was the reason you left "inception"?? :wink:

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Post Post #290 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:05 am

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In post 286, Not_Mafia wrote:Please lynch Overkill and his shitty textbook claim kthnx
You are aware that according to my "outdated manual" of your play, you gain an additional scum point each time you post this. Right?

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Post Post #291 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:09 am

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In post 288, Persivul wrote:
In post 285, Almost50 wrote:What was the reason you left "inception"??
IIRC the mechanics were too confusing - wasn't fun.

If you thi nk I can't play scum, check out this game:
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=62219
Did I say you
can't
? I said I saw you replace out 3 times, and your slot flipped scum on all 3 occasions. That's why I consider you replacing out a likely scumtell for you, but not a 100% evidence.

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Post Post #294 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:20 am

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I wouldn't call it a tactical replace out seeing as it's done very early and before anything develops in the game.

But I have no idea why you're even dragging the subject out. Do you intend to replace out anytime soon? because if not, then I'm saying you continuing to play here makes you null at worst, or a town lean at best.

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Post Post #296 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:22 am

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@N_M: Can I shoot you tonight? You know I wouldn't do that without explicit authorization from you, my friend. I'll even toss in the word "please" if it makes you happier. :twisted:

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Post Post #299 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 298, Not_Mafia wrote:You can if overkill gets lynched today
Oh, I'll take that as a NO then, because we're
not lynching a claimed PR on D1
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Post Post #329 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:33 am

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In post 318, Gamma Emerald wrote:Random thought, where did the phrase “your mileage may vary” originate?
Etymology
:

The United States Environmental Protection Agency requires all new vehicles to undergo a set of standard emissions tests which simulate city and highway driving. Part of the test measures estimated city and highway gas (petrol) mileage estimates. Since no test can exactly simulate all driving habits and conditions, the actual gas mileage of each vehicle will vary. As a result, when these estimated mileage claims from automobile manufacturers appear in advertisements, they are almost always accompanied with the standard disclaimer “your mileage may vary”

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Post Post #330 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:37 am

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In post 324, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 278, Almost50 wrote:This is NOT to say the others are not good at scum, but I'm pointing out players who probably can win it single handedly for their team.
I'm so stupidly arrogant that I really want you to add me to this category.. :?
I'm currently 6W/3L as scum I think, and I think at least two of those have been me in LyLo/MyLo to win it. :roll:
Please notice me senpai.. :(
How many of those did I personally witness though? This is why I said "this is not to say others are not good at scum".

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Post Post #415 (isolation #40) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 388, GuyInFreezer wrote:Hmm unless it changed Normal games suppose to include the info if daychat is enabled, right?

Because if daychat is not enabled, then few of the things I read become juicy.
If day chat is on it must be sated in the OP. If not, then there's no daychat, with the exception of scum having an encryptor.

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Post Post #416 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:43 am

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In post 389, Sashaddin wrote:A50 because of his saga around his account change. Sounds weird.
FFS STOP TALKING ABOUT IT ALREADY. IT'S NAI. AND FFS READ THE BLOODY THREAD AND TRY TO COMPREHEND WHAT I SAY.

I did not say I
want
to play seriously. I said I
have
to. Notice any difference? I wanted to be less serious. That's why I signed up with AP, because A50 is already overgamed. ARE YOU FOLLOWING SO FAR?

Now,
since A50 is overgamed
I made an alt slip, and I foresaw that it won't be the only one, since I'll be on A50 most of the time (I am also MODDING a game with A50). Got it? I made an alt slip and expected to do more.

Som I decided to save you, myself, and most importantly THE MOD the trouble. I know it irritates the players and the mod to have someone alt/hydra slipping multiple times, so I wanted to be nice to everyone and switched to my main BECAUSE IF I DIDN'T I WOULD HAVE STILL POSTED FROM IT EVERY NOW AND THEN.

Now..
since I am now playing with A50
, which is my main account.. the one I keep track of their stats and have a wiki page for, then it follows I will have to take the game more seriously. HAVE TO. Not "want to".

Now if any of you brings up the subject ONE MORE TIME, I will have a VERY EASY solution. I will give F-all and decide NOT to include this game into my stats, and you will see
the real jest6er in me
. Trust me, TOWN players don't want me to do that. It's basically game throwing w.o. breaking the rule. Just being stupid. Ask yourself if you want to lose the game because A50 decided not to keep an eye on the thread and just pop up to say gibberish and then vote whomever and lolhammer anyone who gets to L-1 w.o. stating intent or waiting for a claim, because I can do just that.

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Post Post #417 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:58 am

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In post 400, Rob14 wrote:
There has been a moderator error related to the ruleset. I apologize for that.

The scum faction(s) has/have daytalk.
Oh, ok!

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Post Post #418 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:12 pm

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In post 398, joges wrote:A50 keeps track of his stats, which means he cares about them. That tells me there's something about this game A50 likes. A50's post telling everyone how to deal with him at Night reeked of scum to me. Because of this, I'm scum reading A50. Because A50 is scum to me, I've decided that's his reason for switching.
I want to respond with utmost gentleness as possible considering what I'm implying in my response.

Did you ever watch "We're The Millers"? If you did, you'd know Nick Offerman's character had a personal problem. Right? So seeing as you picked his image to be in your avatar I have decided that you have the same personal problem in your real life and are subconsciously projecting it. I have thus decided that the other party also is unsatisfied, and this likely why you're playing Mafia in the first place. I will stop at this because anything I might add can neither be subtle nor can it be phrased nicely.

Have a nice evening. :]

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Post Post #419 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:16 pm

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In post 398, joges wrote:if I put myself in A50s shoes
Come on.. you're not a pair of socks, are you?

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Post Post #420 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:22 pm

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In post 410, Xtoxm wrote:Consider yourself lucky, A50.
Actually YOU should consider yourself, lucky, but whatever. :lol:

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Post Post #421 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:23 pm

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I won't read the case on Sasha. Get her to L-1 and I'll state intent and give her 12 hrs to claim before I hammer.

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Post Post #424 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:00 pm

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In post 423, joges wrote:
In post 418, Almost50 wrote:
In post 398, joges wrote:A50 keeps track of his stats, which means he cares about them. That tells me there's something about this game A50 likes. A50's post telling everyone how to deal with him at Night reeked of scum to me. Because of this, I'm scum reading A50. Because A50 is scum to me, I've decided that's his reason for switching.
I want to respond with utmost gentleness as possible considering what I'm implying in my response.

Did you ever watch "We're The Millers"? If you did, you'd know Nick Offerman's character had a personal problem. Right? So seeing as you picked his image to be in your avatar I have decided that you have the same personal problem in your real life and are subconsciously projecting it. I have thus decided that the other party also is unsatisfied, and this likely why you're playing Mafia in the first place. I will stop at this because anything I might add can neither be subtle nor can it be phrased nicely.

Have a nice evening. :]
Never seen it.
No use denying it, cuz "I have decided" that's the case.

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Post Post #426 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:16 pm

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Ronald Ulysses "Ron" Swanson is a fictional character portrayed by Nick Offerman from the situation comedy television series Parks and Recreation on NBC

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Post Post #430 (isolation #49) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:52 pm

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So, yes.. Nick Offerman is indeed Ron Swanson

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Post Post #504 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:12 am

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Not like I'm SRing Sasha, but I don't mind voting her either.

P-edit: @Chateau: weren't you already voting there?

@Percy: OK...

VOTE: Sasha

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Post Post #513 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:53 am

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In post 510, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 504, Almost50 wrote:Not like I'm SRing Sasha, but I don't mind voting her either.
<------------------- he, not she; ;)
SORRY! :oops:
(but you're gonna have to live with it for a while, because my brain decided to confuse you with Shoshin, so until the files in my brain get defragged I'm gonna call you a she or her a he) :(

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Post Post #530 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:17 am

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In post 527, Gamma Emerald wrote:That IS a bit late for a PEdit...
Not if I open a page and go do something else then come back to read it and respond to posts I see without first refreshing (refreshing will make the red light go away so I don't know where I last stopped). :wink:

It's as simple as that.

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Post Post #537 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:01 am

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In post 531, Rob14 wrote:
Vote Count #1.8:


Almost50:
joges (2)
@Mod: Is this a mod error or is joges a double voter??

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Post Post #538 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 533, Sashaddin wrote:
@MOD: In post Xtoxm takes his vote from A50 to me
OK.. so it was an error.

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Post Post #545 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:57 pm

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In post 542, Springtrap wrote:Can someone explain the Overkill wagon again?
Some people find him scummy. You're welcome. :P

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Post Post #546 (isolation #56) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:59 pm

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In post 543, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 312, Sashaddin wrote:I went through the ISO, and can't figure out why 0verki11 got wagoned this hard this early. Can I have a heads-up please?
In post 542, Springtrap wrote:Can someone explain the Overkill wagon again?
I was wondering too...
You're wondering why someone
you're voting
has a wagon on them?? :eek:

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Post Post #547 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:00 pm

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In post 544, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 543, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 312, Sashaddin wrote:I went through the ISO, and can't figure out why 0verki11 got wagoned this hard this early. Can I have a heads-up please?
In post 542, Springtrap wrote:Can someone explain the Overkill wagon again?
I was wondering too...
Am I allowed to put this to L1 now?
You have my permission.

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Post Post #561 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:50 am

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In post 558, stan1ey wrote:If sasha flips scum i could see a case for sasha/gamma/NM team but we'll see
I'm on Gamma <<<<<<<<<

Also reminder: DO NOT PROTECT ME. I AM MACHO.

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Post Post #592 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:13 pm

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In post 589, 0verki11 wrote:Why would they have to explain, they most likely are either bus driver or some type of pariety cop.
*Sigh*

1- Bus Driver is NOT NORMAL

2- Parity Cop is 90% a Town Role (Scum only need that if it's multi ball)

3-
I'm withholding this one until he comes in and responds.

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Post Post #593 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 590, Springtrap wrote:Can I ask how a Tracker is nearly a confirmed IC? A claim that confident being a tracker is... Weird.
Because a Scum Tracker is a bit weird. It's not impossible, but is rare.

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Post Post #596 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:16 pm

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In post 591, Gamma Emerald wrote:Could be other things too. Don’t want to mention anything to avoid giving ideas.
You're going into my Town pile for this and for not joining the wagon on 0verki11

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Post Post #597 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:20 pm

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In post 594, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Parity cop isn’t normal either
I think you maybe right. I've just checked the wiki and a Parity Cop is equal to an Insane Cop, which is definitely non-Normal

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Post Post #604 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:00 pm

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In post 599, Xtoxm wrote:Well now he's just bullshitting. I didn't visit anyone last night. We can turbolynch this.
You do know that this means we lynch him and if he flips Tracker you will follow, right?

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Post Post #608 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

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Alright then..

VOTE: 0verki11

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Post Post #620 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:14 pm

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@Gamma: I will sheep you.. against all odds. You had better be both TOWN and RIGHT.

VOTE: Xtoxm

Multi-Tasking is exactly what I had on my mind, but I didn't think it over when Xtoxm claimed VT (or rather implied it).

The thing is it would make more sense for a caught Maulti-Tasking Scum to 1 for 1 with a TPR than it would for a even a Scum Goon to randomly pick someone to take out at the expense of outing themselves.

P.S. If someone argues 0verki11 didn't pick someone "at random", but rather actually thought Xtoxm was a TPR then I'd point out this can never be the case for THREE OR FOUR Scums at the same time. Surely ONE of them speaks good English!

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Post Post #621 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:15 pm

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In post 619, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 618, stan1ey wrote:VOTE: Overkill
this is confirmed not mafia btw.
Explain??

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Post Post #622 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:17 pm

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Like, if Xtoxm somehow flips Town then 0verki11 & stanley are almost 100% scum partners. The former for faking a result and the latter for joining the wagon for Town cred.

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Post Post #625 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:25 pm

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@0verki11: OK. I get it.

@stanley: Why are you voting 0verki11?

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Post Post #631 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:47 pm

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In post 629, Clemency wrote:definitely no normal role
Image

Amy role with the Multiple-Tasking modifier can do multiple actions at night.

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Post Post #634 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:57 pm

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UNVOTE:

Stanley is the scummiest scummy scum I've played with in a year!

In fact, I'll let this resolve itself and go for him

VOTE: stanley

Of 0verki11 is Town; Scum can't afford to kill him tonight or Xtox, becomes confirmed Scum. EVEN if Scum were willing to male that sacrifice then we still got them busy rather than have done the job for them.

If 0verki11 is Scum then the Town Cop (if existent) knows where to check (Hint: NOT 0verki11. The mere existence of a Town Cop makes the Tracker claim a Scum claim. Cop should check outside of 0verki11/Xtoxm, give us a 2nd guilty or a confirmed townie, then claim tomorrow). Mote that the Town may still have a PROTECTIVE role, so the Cop claiming with a solid guilty, or a confirmed Town, plus 0verki11 mechanically guiltied is GOOD because chances are the Cop will still survive to get us a 3rd result.

If anyone is confused by all this, forget I said anything. Just vote Stanley and let someone else worry about the rest of it.

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Post Post #647 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 pm

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In post 640, stan1ey wrote:If i was mafia and a town investigative said I visited someome (or 2 people) id say yes I visited as a town pr rather than say i visited nobody.
It's abundantly clear you don't have conviction in anything you say. One of the 2 is scum, that's for sure, but you are flip flopping and not giving it much thought, yet you desperately want to be on either wagon.
This translates as SCUM who is not sure whether to bus or save their buddy
. You're literally caught between a rock and a hard place.

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Post Post #656 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:42 pm

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In post 648, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 647, Almost50 wrote:
In post 640, stan1ey wrote:If i was mafia and a town investigative said I visited someome (or 2 people) id say yes I visited as a town pr rather than say i visited nobody.
It's abundantly clear you don't have conviction in anything you say. One of the 2 is scum, that's for sure, but you are flip flopping and not giving it much thought, yet you desperately want to be on either wagon.
This translates as SCUM who is not sure whether to bus or save their buddy
. You're literally caught between a rock and a hard place.
If you belevive that Stanley is scum then im scum too. Choose me or Xtoxm or im tunneling you if im still alive to do so.
Are you one of those players who speak before they think?? HOW is stanley
confirmed
one way or another when we don't know what Xtoxm targeted him with, if anything at all?

Like, let's assume you are indeed a Town Tracker and that Xtoxm did indeed visit stanley. Why can't that have been a Doctor shot? Like, maybe Xtoxm is a multi-tasking Scum JOAT who targeted his buddy with protection and GiF with a kill or block? Or maybe he is plain Mafia Doctor who has the multi-tasking modifier to allow him to kill and heal on the same night?? Did you consider that??

I mean, the way you're arguing I do think you might be Town, because I know you're not experienced enough to fake that with such conviction, but dude.. do not make assumptions and build on them. Inspect and examine every proposition you can this of that could make sense before you rule it out completely.

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Post Post #657 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:45 pm

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In post 653, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 625, Almost50 wrote:@0verki11: OK. I get it.

@stanley: Why are you voting 0verki11?
A50 even mentions that I confirmed Stanley here, yet still continues to vote them. And im assuming A50 prefers a Xtoxm lynch due to the earlier vote over me.

A50 is scum lynch them after Xtoxm.
1- You need new glasses. You quoted my post, and I challenge you to show where I said anything about anyone confirming anyone.

2- Using your same -sick- logic, I can't be scum with Xtoxm if -you yourself state that- I prefer Xtoxm's lynch over yours. STOP STICKING YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH AND THINK BEFORE YOU TALK.

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Post Post #660 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:06 pm

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In post 658, Clemency wrote:okay i gotta say this before i get accused of tmi but a50 is town because i healed him, hence no death tonight
look who's conveniently spinning a narrative where we lynch a50
dont read into the wifom
:facepalm:

Well, THANK YOU for keeping me alive (and thank you for digesting my play style so quick when some players have been playing me for 2-3 years and still can't tell) :lol:

But really, you didn't need to out now. Your role is a valuable Town role and should be kept alive for as long as possible.

Anyway, what's done is done. I would appreciate it if you unvoted 0verki11 for now, and waited for the other players to weigh in before we rushed the day. I would want to know what Percy, Una, GiF & Spring all have to say. (One of them is Scum, btw)

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Post Post #661 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:07 pm

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Oh, I guess I forgot Chateau was also in this game, but I can't figure him out anyway. At least not yet.

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Post Post #663 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:11 pm

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In post 659, stan1ey wrote:
I also speak without thinking or even reading, just like 0verki11
Amen to that, brother.

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Post Post #665 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:13 pm

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In post 662, Clemency wrote:i've realised you present as really good town so people are always likely to shoot you
I was referring precisely to my claim of being Macho. Please don't tell me you missed it or forgot about it, because that is precisely what i was referring to when I said you figured out my play style.

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Post Post #667 (isolation #78) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:15 pm

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In post 664, stan1ey wrote:Is that all you are going to reply with or what
Is visible to you or did your provider block it?

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Post Post #668 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:16 pm

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In post 666, Clemency wrote:oh no i didnt believe you for a second there
:lol: Alright then, so you
are
good at reading my bluffs (I gotta keep that in mind in case I roll scum in a game with Town you in the future) :lol:

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Post Post #670 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:34 pm

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In post 669, Clemency wrote:i find it helpful to claim my power roles early since i dont see myself as someone who could contest a cc
Don't think little of yourself. Realize your points of strength and use them, but also realize your weaknesses and work on them. You are a GOOD Town player. You are Town in this game, so that's mainly what I'll be talking about. If you have protective role, stay hidden. You made a good call (your N1 save on me) which boosted our chances. Why wouldn't you have kept quiet about it and done it again? Scum would/might have thought I was BP and tried again on N2, and AGAIM you would have blocked them. Do you know how much of an impact blocking TWO scum kills in one game does? :]

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Post Post #824 (isolation #81) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:56 am

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In post 681, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 679, Persivul wrote:We lynch Xtoxm. If his role can't support that he visited two people, we lynch overkill tomorrow.
That's all you got?
VOTE: Persivul
In post 682, Chateau Lobby wrote:Everyone must trust me now.
I do.. now (didn't trust you AT ALL yesterday, tbh)

VOTE: Persivul

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Post Post #826 (isolation #82) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:00 am

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In post 683, Clemency wrote:and with that one quick move you've gone from townlean to scumlean
Trust me, this is him FINALLY obv!Towning.

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Post Post #827 (isolation #83) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:02 am

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In post 694, Clemency wrote:quite honestly i dont even care about persivul's alignment right now because i wanna settle this overkill-xtox mess and if he's bussing that's something we can be vary of later
It will be settled overnight ;)

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Post Post #828 (isolation #84) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:02 am

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^Maybe^

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Post Post #829 (isolation #85) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:04 am

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In post 695, Clemency wrote:i've already confirmed my own death this night so if i'm alive tomorrow go ahead and hang me
Just protect Chateau then. He can take over from me after I become a useless corpse

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Post Post #830 (isolation #86) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:14 am

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In post 703, Clemency wrote:i'm going to defend persivul till the grave unless you give me a reason not to
You're lucky I'm thinking mechanically. If I did what most people do here I would actually pair you up with Persy for real.

If there's another Doctor in the game DO NOT CC today
. We already have our lynch.

If Chateau dies on N2 Clemency is likely Scum, but as long as there's no CC to his Doctor claim I'd still be inclined to believe he healed me last night because it makes most sense and especially so in the absence of a NK. (Which can only be explained by the existence of another Doctor or a BP, or a Town RB/JK)

Anyway, Persy eats rope and I will see if I can do some VCA before the end of the day (not too beneficial at this time so I'm not desperate that the day doesn't end, just as long as it ends with a Persy lynch).

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Post Post #831 (isolation #87) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:18 am

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In post 710, stan1ey wrote:Clem, there is no reason for CL to randomly fake claims town investigative when the game is completely focused elsewhere. plus persivul has been acting extremely scummy all game. VOTE: Persivul

Xtoxm immediately throwing Persivul under the bus makes me think he is definitely mafia over Overkill. We should lynch Persivul today and Xtoxm day 3.
You're finally making sense with the first part. The second part does not make much sense to me.

It's 0verki11+Persy+GiF/joges

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Post Post #833 (isolation #88) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:24 am

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In post 717, Clemency wrote:why the hell does everyone have some sort of super mystery role
Nothing is super mystery.. 0verki11 is Scum faking a guilty on someone he thought might be Scum (and I wonder how that went past the other two, but Chateau has a point in 0verkill having been a prime lynch candidate anyway).

Chateau has a guilty on Persy, which means Persy is 100% "Not Town" and I personally wouldn't be surprised if he flipped 3P (which would render the VCA useless, thus the low priority I've talked about earlier)

You're an outed Doctor. That's obvious. Xtoxm is very likely VT (don't quote me on that yet). Anything else? Oh, and I faked Macho, but everyone knows it by now.

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Post Post #834 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:25 am

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In post 718, Xtoxm wrote:And if cl is actually claiming investigative here that should be fairly good evidence overkill is lying
Please try using Chateau or Lobby instead of CL, because it sometimes confuses me (I think of CLemency, especially when you use the lower case)

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Post Post #837 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:45 am

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At the bottom of page 30, and now starting to get the feeling Chateau may have misinterpreted his result somehow?? I will keep on readin (Just doing it along with a couple of other stuff that are not internet related, so bear with me)

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Post Post #838 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:48 am

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In post 750, Persivul wrote:BTW, I received a piece of fruit last night.
FUNNNNN! Why the FUSS did you not claim that earlier? Didi it not occur to you he might be a a Loyal Fruit Vendor? (The Fruit Vendor part would be evident to YOU already).

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Post Post #843 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:53 am

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In post 765, Persivul wrote:
In post 762, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 760, Persivul wrote:
In post 758, Chateau Lobby wrote: Why are you just now claiming to get fruit?
I just now remembered it. It has absolutely no relevance to my alignment.
How do you know that?
Because I've read the wiki on fruit vendor.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fruit_Vendor

But if you have an argument to the contrary, feel free to present it.
My man.. the new fad is to extensively use the Loyal/Disloyal modifiers for Normal games. Also Multi-Tasking appears often now. Finally, Investigative roles are mostly nerfed, so either X-shot or GS over Cop (and if a GS exists then either a Mafia Doctor or a Town Vig is included to weaken it), and Vouyeur is used over Watcher.. etc.

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Post Post #845 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:00 am

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In post 772, Persivul wrote:
In post 768, stan1ey wrote:Why isnt everyone piling votes onto Persivul yet
Everyone should be requiring an explicit claim from CL. THEN, yes, they should pile votes on me.
It's apparent now that you "forgot" and he jumped the gun. :facepalm:

[uv[/uv]

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Post Post #846 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:00 am

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UNVOTE:

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Post Post #847 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:03 am

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I guess I'm at joges/GiF + 0verki11 + Springtrap now

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Post Post #852 (isolation #96) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:33 am

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In post 777, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 776, Persivul wrote:
In post 767, Chateau Lobby wrote: .... Loyal...
OK, so: you're a Loyal Fruit Vendor. You sent me fruit. You assumed that anyone who received fruit would necessarily say that in their first post. Since I didn't, you concluded I'm scum (the three 100% claims being absolute bullshit). Then, as we kept talking, I guessed that you were this obscure role, and then claimed to have received fruit.

You're either bad town, or bad scum.
I didn't send you any fruit.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OK. This DEFINITELY getting interesting.

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Post Post #854 (isolation #97) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:37 am

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In post 792, Chateau Lobby wrote:Pers is town af.

UNVOTE:
*Sigh* Thanks for nothing, buddy. (Actually, it was both amusing AND beneficial to develop reads. I'm just being an ass when -in fact- it wasn't all that bad after all.)

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Post Post #855 (isolation #98) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:38 am

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In post 795, Persivul wrote:Image

Here I am, take me out!

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Post Post #858 (isolation #99) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:47 am

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In post 801, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 759, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 757, Persivul wrote:
In post 756, Chateau Lobby wrote: Do you think I am town PR?
You said you had a night action and I don't see any scum motivation for a faked result on me. So, yes, you're probably a (bad) town PR. You could also be scum or lying town, but those seem less likely.
That hurts my feelings.
Okay actually Pers might be reacting to this guilty worse than Xtoxm did to his
I don't want to jump the gun, but this looks more like Scum Gamma than Town Gamma (NOT a confident read though)

Right now I am sure Una, stanley, Persy, Clem & Chateau are all Town, so a very goof Town core to work from/with

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Post Post #890 (isolation #100) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 am

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In post 860, joges wrote:A50, why lie?
It wouldn't be me if I didn't do some gimmick to bait the NK as a VT. I thought it should be obvious after the fact. (Did you fall for it??) :P

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Post Post #891 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:25 am

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In post 863, Clemency wrote:wait what does the loyal modifier do
Your action works only if the target is of your own alignment. If they are of any other alignment your action fails (you get reflexively Roleblocked)

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Post Post #892 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:32 am

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In post 877, joges wrote:
In post 792, Chateau Lobby wrote:Pers is town af.

UNVOTE:
Wait the what. HUH?

WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE LYING?
Because this is a game of deceit.

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Post Post #894 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:37 am

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In post 881, Persivul wrote:
In post 877, joges wrote:WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE LYING?
Because, for better or for worse, Lynch All Liars has gone out of fashion.
For better I'm sure. Scum lie all the time and try to deceive the Town. If we were supposed to act like innocent children we'd be eaten by the wolves 101% of the time. We had to develop our own deceitful ways to survive and catch scum. One of mine is to bait the NK as a VT which indirectly protects the TPRs for one extra night. It works fine, so I have no reason to stop doing it.

Sometimes it's done to trick Scum into inadvertently claiming Scum. Like, once I faked BG to bait the SK to claim they shot me rather than the Town Doctor (he claimed Vig and we had only one NK). He did, and I outed he was 100% lying because I was NOT BG, so we lynched him.

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Post Post #900 (isolation #104) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 895, Persivul wrote:
In post 894, Almost50 wrote: For better I'm sure. Scum lie all the time and try to deceive the Town. If we were supposed to act like innocent children we'd be eaten by the wolves 101% of the time. We had to develop our own deceitful ways to survive and catch scum. One of mine is to bait the NK as a VT which indirectly protects the TPRs for one extra night. It works fine, so I have no reason to stop doing it.

Sometimes it's done to trick Scum into inadvertently claiming Scum. Like, once I faked BG to bait the SK to claim they shot me rather than the Town Doctor (he claimed Vig and we had only one NK). He did, and
I outed he was 100% lying
because I was NOT BG,
so we lynched him.
OK, you're against Lynch All Liars, and you give an example in which you lynched someone...for lying.
It was because he was CAUGHT SCUM. It's not just because he was LYING, but rather because the lie was an obvious SCUM SLIP/CLAIM.

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Post Post #901 (isolation #105) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 am

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@Percy: If a close fried of yours said they forgot your B-day, and then you walked into the work place with them to find they have decorated decorated the room and prepared a surprise party for you.. would you still hold it against them because they "lied" to you?

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Post Post #902 (isolation #106) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 899, joges wrote:I'd rather fight fire with water than with fire.
You'll never put a lit oil well off then, and you'll probably die if the fire was caused by electric failure in the building. But good luck being honest in Mafia. It's as good as being a pacifist in a wrestling arena.

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Post Post #903 (isolation #107) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:00 am

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VOTE: 0verki11

I want this lynched. If he flips red (and he most probably will) consider N_M to be an Innocent Child

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Post Post #905 (isolation #108) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:05 am

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Also, don't forget about my reads after I'm gone.

Clem, Persy, Stan, Una & Chateau are Town.
N_M is conf!Town IF overkill is Scum (also Joges might be Town in that case)

If you lynch from the others you should win the game hands down.

If overkill flips green though it's obvious Xtoxm is conf!Scum, but I don't foresee it at this time

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Post Post #912 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:05 pm

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In post 909, Clemency wrote:it was on xtoxm
In post 910, Clemency wrote:i think
Can confirm

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Post Post #933 (isolation #110) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 930, Rob14 wrote:
Chateau Lobby,
Town Loyal Fruit Vendor
, was killed Night 2.

Day 3 has begun. With 11 people alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-12-29 14:05:00)
Who thinks we have TWO "Loyal Fruit Vendors"??

VOTE: Xtoxm

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Post Post #937 (isolation #111) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:40 am

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Yeah, right. And it didn't occur to you for the whole time which took 28 hrs between him claiming the result on you and
you laying the hammer yourself
. I'm totally convinced.

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Post Post #939 (isolation #112) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:45 am

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In post 936, joges wrote:I’ve looked it up. I don’t realy believe you.

@Clemency - Why do you think there is a roleblocker for scum?
Of course Xtoxm is lying. It doesn't even makes sense that he forgot his role for all this time, and especially so when I said "You do understand you will be next if he flips green" (which someone thought was fluff). Assuming Xtoxm did forget momentarily, my question there should've alerted him to double check.

Finally, MD + Nea = two results, which he didn't give. He was accused if targeting stanley + GiFm and AGAIN he would have certainly remembered he got results on these specific two. He doesn't even try to say "I'm a double Doctor", so someone may buy him forgetting. HE GOT RESULTS. Did he mix his games on those two?

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Post Post #951 (isolation #113) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 941, Springtrap wrote:So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?
You tell us that and tell us who your 3rd is and I promise you'll be the last of them to get lynched.

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Post Post #953 (isolation #114) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:46 am

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In post 945, Clemency wrote:
In post 830, Almost50 wrote:
In post 703, Clemency wrote:i'm going to defend persivul till the grave unless you give me a reason not to
You're lucky I'm thinking mechanically. If I did what most people do here I would actually pair you up with Persy for real.

If there's another Doctor in the game DO NOT CC today
. We already have our lynch.

If Chateau dies on N2 Clemency is likely Scum, but as long as there's no CC to his Doctor claim I'd still be inclined to believe he healed me last night because it makes most sense and especially so in the absence of a NK. (Which can only be explained by the existence of another Doctor or a BP, or a Town RB/JK)

Anyway, Persy eats rope and I will see if I can do some VCA before the end of the day (not too beneficial at this time so I'm not desperate that the day doesn't end, just as long as it ends with a Persy lynch).
this post
It was a bit of this and some of that, tbh. If a doctor is still in play they should still NOT CLAIM today, because Xtoxm is caught scum and we can't lynch 2 players on the same day. The theoretical Doctor stays hidden and tries to save someone tonight anyway, and then they can claim tomorrow and we lynch Clemency.

Right now I think it's Xtoxm + Una + Spring as the most likely scum trio.

Xtoxm has been explained and I think it's obvious.
Una because why wasn't he shot over the "other Loyal Fruit Vendor". The idea of having 2 Loyal Fruit Vendors isn't even that likely in my mind, unless these two were the specific ONLY two "investigative roles" we have.

Spring is someone I suspected all along and his voting patterns are awful, plus that question about why kill Chateau rather than Clem oozes scum to me.

Note that the 3 of them are the last 3 to vote 0verki11 too, which is now becoming a fad for scums to vote the same wagon in succession to mess up with standard VCA (old VCA experts had always assumed scum do not vote together and especially not in succession).

But we will see who else Una claims to have given fruit to before we decide on Una for certain.

Finally,
ANY OTHER REMAINING TPRs: PLEASE DON'T CLAIM TODAY
. Thank you.

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Post Post #955 (isolation #115) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:50 am

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In post 949, Springtrap wrote:
In post 584, 0verki11 wrote:Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer, tyty for making me out what it most likely 2 TIs.
Mafia xtoxm hasn't visited Almost50, who you claimed to have healed. It can be assumed he actually attacked one of these 2 people. You admit to knowing Almost50 and he applauded you for seeing through his ruse. So you would see through it anyway if you are mafia.

I feel as if Clemency is claiming doctor as a way to cover himself in the future.
Xtoxm didn't attempt to kill anyone on N1. He's a Mafia Multi-Tasking JOAT. This role most likely has 1-shot informative abilities such as Tracker/Watcher/Voyeur/Motion Detector ..etc.

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Post Post #964 (isolation #116) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:27 pm

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In post 963, joges wrote:Personally I would like thoughts from GIF, N_M, Stan, and Una before we hammer.
I want Una in particular. No one has claimed receiving fruit yet, so that's interesting IF Una is indeed a second Fruit Vendor.

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Post Post #965 (isolation #117) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:32 pm

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I guess I'm trying to keep an open mind and not jump the gun despite it looking like Una (or someone else in the scum team) has been informed of the existence of a Loyal Fruit Vendor. I need to go back and see how Chateau reacted when Persy claimed he received fruit (but I honestly can't explain how they guessed it was Persy if that's the case).

I mean, let's assume Una is indeed a Loyal FV, and he gave Persy fruit on N1. Now who did Chateau give fruit to and why didn't they claim it and why didn't Chateau point out the fact they gave fruit to someone and they didn't claim it? I need to reread the game sometime tonight to find out some missing pieces.

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Post Post #968 (isolation #118) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:23 pm

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Wait! I'm DUMB! :oops:

In my text file I put "Loyal Fruit Vendor" next to Una instead of Chateau. :facepalm:

NVM. Brain fart. Forget I said anything in that regard.

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Post Post #984 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:05 pm

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@joges: Why would Clemency lie about being RB'd when he could've simply claimed he protected me again?

My preferred lynch is PERSIVUL (Mafia are informed there's a Loyal Fruit Vendor explains him claiming having received the fruit AFTER having been prodded to do when he didn't have a clue at the start of Chateaus; FoS)

VOTE: Persivul

Think about it. Town has a JOAT, Loyal Fruit Vendor & a Tracker. Where's our protective?
OK, Scum have a RoleCop (and multi-tasking none-the-less), and a Roleblocker. You think Scum finding out roles = 100% successful kill with not a chance to protect the outed PR even by mere chance?

Btw, THIS is why it was a bad idea to out so early, Clem.

The other scum is Gamma >> N_M. I place Gamma ahead of N_M courtesy of the hammer on Xtoxm, because N_M doesn't bus (he doesn't usually vote a partner no matter what).

So we go Persy > Gamma > N_M and we win.

Note: Also Clemency was telling the truth about saving me on N1 because Gamma would totally kill me first, while N_M won't.

So it's Persy > Gamma >>>> N_M for me.

P.S. We had a 1-shot Vig or have an Even-Night Vig. If we lynch Scum!Persy today then we already won and VOTE: I don't need protection, so Clem try to protect the Vig.

If Persy flips green by some Godly miracle, then I guess it's Gamma AND N_M and I guess the Doctor is useless because they'd be blocked anyway.

Oh, and a final thought.. although a distant possibility.. is that Scum are actually informed of the existence of a VIG, and that's what they've been shooting for. This may explain why they didn't block the Doctor on N2.

I'd leave Clemency as a last resort suspect if Persy flips green, but Clemency is 100% Town if Persy flips red.

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Post Post #985 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:07 pm

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Oh, also Xtoxm reads:

Scumpool: gamma, Unabomber, joges. <<< Una flopped green and joges is Town JOAT so 1 in 3 theory dictates GAMMA is SCUM

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Post Post #986 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:08 pm

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LOL @ me voting instead of bolding.

OK.. VOTE: Gamma or Persy. Gamma I KNOW to be Scum now. Persy is like 90% Scum

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Post Post #1060 (isolation #122) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:39 am

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tinfoil time: From the way this played out, we know scum were informed of something, but we don't know what that something is. Were they informed of the existence of a FV? A Tracker? What?

FV explained Persy's "correct guess" to Chateau's case. Tracker explains Xtoxm taking the chance if doing the N1 kill along with his RC.

I am not sure where to go from this. Do we lynch Clemency to confirm joges? Do we lynch joges to confirm Clemency? Do we lynch outside of the two and let it resolve?

joges claiming to be effectively a VT now justifies him living to endgame.

VOTE: joges

Mechanical choice. If he is what he says he is we lynch Clemency next. Easy.

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Post Post #1066 (isolation #123) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:25 am

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Actually, I think I know who scum are. It's Persivul + N_M, but I'd have a very hard time convincing anyone.

D1: X 2nd on Sasha, Persy 4th. N_M on 0verki11

D2: N_M 1st on 0verki11, X hammer. Persy on X

D3: Persy 4t on X & N_M hanner <<< THIS is what got me thinking N_M can't be Mafia, but they both waited to see if the silly X claim would gain any popularity to save his neck

Xtoxm reads on remaining suspects:

Not_Mafia - no way he's scum with overkill, very likely town

Persivul - I did think his confidence in himself in the end after cls gambit looked town, after I scum read him most of the game. I'll say probtown

Gamma Emerald - inconsistent read on overkill, good chance of scum

joges - absent today, scrummy yesterday, could well be scum

Persy accuses N_M of tunneling 0verki11 (true) but doesn't vote there.

I want to flip Persy today.

VOTE: Persivul

My theory is Persy told N_M to vote him today because I specifically think N_M doesn't bus.

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Post Post #1082 (isolation #124) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:25 pm

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In post 1075, stan1ey wrote:A50 please tell me what you think of this:
In post 988, stan1ey wrote:also, I have changed my mind on Perisvul, he is town. xtoxm was pretty much caught scum, whether we lynched overkill first or xtoxm first he was going to die sooner rather than later so there was no way he would ever bus his partner to try and save himself for 2 nights maximum.
i am quite confident that persivul is town because of this
UNVOTE:

I'm not voting anyone today. You guys do as you wish.

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Post Post #1083 (isolation #125) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:35 pm

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In post 1076, stan1ey wrote:im very suspicious of you right now A50, one of Clemency and Joges has to be lying because of the N2 roleblock situation and we should resolve that sooner rather than later, youre advocating that we lynch someone outside of those 2 and its going to delay lynching one of them potentially to a point where its too late and we no longer have the luxury of lynching the wrong one
I concede t looks like we need to lynch in joges/Clem, and I confess I don't know which of them to lynch, so I'm sitting aside and letting the other townies move on so as not to be a distraction myself.

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Post Post #1089 (isolation #126) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:50 am

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@joges: Your push on Clem is unfounded and is actually scummy. You do not exhibit any paranoia in a 4-2 situation and your being stubborn about this gives me heebie-jeebies. Add to it that your claim doesn't add up with the flipped Town roles, and I think you are mist likely scum.

VOTE: joges

I'm sorry if I'm wrong here.

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Post Post #1091 (isolation #127) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:27 am

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In post 1090, Persivul wrote:
In post 1089, Almost50 wrote:a 4-2 situation
:?
Oh! :lol: We're 6-2. OK.

Still, 3 mafia vs 11 rather than 10 Town means SCUM had to have something to compensate it.

Of course, it could be 4 vs 10 and in that case both joges and Clem are Town and we may have a Mafia Traitor in play. Maybe THAT is why Mafia had a ROLECOP?? SHIT!

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #1092 (isolation #128) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:29 am

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VOTE: Gamma

This is CONFIRMED Scum. If we have 3 Mafia alive (5-3) and both votes on Clem were TOWN then Mafia had enough time to hammer that.

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Post Post #1099 (isolation #129) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:06 am

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In post 1093, stan1ey wrote:What makes gamma confirmed? I was thinking that its probably joges and gamma/NM or clemency and A50/NM
Read the post again, mate. 3 Mafia = joges get Clemency gets hammered unless Gamma is one of them. joges and Clem being Town make sense if we are are up agaisnt 4 Scums not 3 in a 14 players game.

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Post Post #1103 (isolation #130) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:12 pm

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In post 1101, Rob14 wrote:
Gamma Emerald and Clemency have been prodded.

If we lynch Gamma today I am willing to compromise on Clemency tomorrow.

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Post Post #1109 (isolation #131) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:36 am

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In post 1108, Rob14 wrote:
GuyInFreezer has been prodded. Seeking replacement for Gamma Emerald.

As a note, I will not be issuing prods December 24-25 due to the holidays.
VOTE GAMMA EMERALD. HE IS PRETTY ACTIVE ON SITE BUT AVOIDING THIS THREAD.

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Post Post #1110 (isolation #132) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:38 am

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I will assume full responsibility if Gamma flips Town here. I will vote myself if you like if he flips Town.

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Post Post #1112 (isolation #133) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:10 am

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In post 1111, Not_Mafia wrote:Lynch Persivul
No one is gonna listen to you NOW. Lynch Gamma, show we know what's going on, and whoever stays alive of us can convince the remaining Townies.

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Post Post #1126 (isolation #134) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:53 am

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VOTE: Clem

Sorry, Clem, but I don't want the town to win this one anymore. Scum can have it because Town are stupid.

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Post Post #1127 (isolation #135) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:56 am

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Btw, I found a loophole to not include this game in my stats. I replaced myself, so it's void. Yeah, pretty cheap and I should have (and intended to) include it in my stats, but with a town like this I guess i can excuse myself for "cheating"

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Post Post #1137 (isolation #136) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:03 pm

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In post 1128, Clemency wrote:jeez a50 you're really not in it today
maybe take a small break? you're playing really reckless and spiteful
joges is scum btw
I'm not reckless. I'm just furious over people thinking theirs is the only right way.

Scum are in Percy, Gamma & N_M, and I highly suspect it's the former two.

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Post Post #1138 (isolation #137) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:05 pm

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But of course I'm willing to hammer joges tomorrow to prove it. After all, I can always blame it on joges himself for lynching you and making himself look bad.

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Post Post #1139 (isolation #138) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 1133, Clemency wrote:i was a tad unsure earlier but now i'm 100% certain joges is scum

do that for me at least, yea?
Sure. I'll make sure this town loses, and I'm starting by declaring I will never vote Percy.

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Post Post #1140 (isolation #139) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:07 pm

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In post 1134, stan1ey wrote:If Clemency is town then I'm pretty sure its A50 and Joges
An even better player here. Maybe I should stop giving a rat's fart.

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Post Post #1141 (isolation #140) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:08 pm

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In post 1136, Clemency wrote:sorry that i played bad
YOU DIDN'T.

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Post Post #1147 (isolation #141) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:12 am

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VOTE: joges

He insisted it was a 1v1, so he is now confirmed scum to himself. (Not to me though, because I've been preaching it was TvT situation, but -of course- I'm bad in this game so I will follow joges own read on himself).

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Post Post #1154 (isolation #142) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:08 am

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In post 1152, stan1ey wrote:Joges is town.
No shit. Well, so was Clemency.

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Post Post #1167 (isolation #143) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:38 am

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You mean... THIS???


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Post Post #1170 (isolation #144) » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:04 am

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This game is fast paced I can't keep up :P

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Post Post #1175 (isolation #145) » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:01 pm

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Come on, Gamma.. you know better than to ask about the basic mechanics of common roles!

The answer is OF COURSE the Tracker sees the action, as they are targeting the playing doing the action and not the Commuter/Ascetic themselves. However, a WATCHER targeting the Commuter/Ascetic doesn't see anything because their target is UNTARGETABLE to them.

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Post Post #1177 (isolation #146) » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:24 pm

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This is a Normal.

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Post Post #1179 (isolation #147) » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:42 pm

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OK, but the wiki for Ascetic states:

This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. An Ascetic role cannot be targeted by anything other than a kill.
A role attempting to target an Ascetic should be seen doing so by Trackers and Motion Detectors
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This bit is not explicitly mentioned in the wiki for Commuter, although they both sate the role targeting the Ascetic/Commuter is considered "Roleblocked", which goes against the Normal Guidelines for Roleblocker (!!). I'll quote:

Commuter (Normal Guidelines):
Any role that attempts to target a commuting Commuter should be treated as though they are blocked


Ascetic (Top of page):
More precisely, Ascetic reflexively Roleblocks all actions taken against them except kills.


Roleblocker (Normal Version):
When an X-Shot role is blocked, the shot is not refunded; the player still counts as having "paid for" their role use, but the actual role is otherwise considered to not have happened (so, e.g., Trackers and Watchers will not be able to see the blocked role being used).


But if I had to make a judgement I'd take what was explicitly mentioned in the Ascetic wiki page over the interpretation of it being a Roleblock (i.e. Tracker will see the action from the the role targeting the Ascetic).

Perhaps we should contact the mhsmith to make proper amendments to the wiki?

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Post Post #1189 (isolation #148) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 1188, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1186, Persivul wrote:
In post 1184, Not_Mafia wrote:Told you guys to lynch Persivul
Who else is scum?
I never said you were scum
Did he say "W@60n0m1x"? If he did I'll vote him on principle. :P

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Post Post #1198 (isolation #149) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:32 pm

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SORRY! I didn't realize it's been that long since I last posted.

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Post Post #1202 (isolation #150) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:34 pm

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Wait.. so 0verki11 said he saw Xtoxm visit 2 people, one of which claims to have commuted on N1, which -according to the mod- should not have given 0verki11 the ability to see the visit, which in turn makes stan1ey a liar. Is this a correct narrative?

VOTE: stanley

I do recall arguing with 0verki11 about this specific result, as he thought it cleared BOTH his targets, and I argued it didn't, but when Xtoxm flipped a Role Cop I dropped it bc I didn't see why he would RV his nown mate. Maybe the scum were informed of the existence of a Tracker?

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Post Post #1205 (isolation #151) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:42 pm

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@joges: OK.. I hear you. Also my anger at you (for lynching Clem) is starting to fade away.

UNVOTE:

Now, would you -kindly- explain why PERSIVUL might not be the correct lynch? Because I don't buy this "he guessed it was a fruit vendor" thing. ANYONE could have guessed it the way Chateau went about it (anyone with a brain, that is.. and I assure you Persivul does have a brain).

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Post Post #1206 (isolation #152) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:45 pm

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In fact, here's a lynch pool for you: Percy, Gamma & N_M. I still have this "I don't vote N_M" principle intact, so if you pick him you're going to have to do it without me. Otherwise, which of Percy/Gamma would you lynch and why?

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Post Post #1207 (isolation #153) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:46 pm

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And -of course- I'm also theoretically still on the table, but I "think" you should know by now that I'm Town.

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Post Post #1232 (isolation #154) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:07 am

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In post 1209, stan1ey wrote:So it appears I forgot to mention I am also bulletproof. sorry for the error hope you all understand x
This is BS of the highest order. BP Commuter? What else? Unlynchable Ninja???

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Post Post #1233 (isolation #155) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:10 am

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In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1206, Almost50 wrote:In fact, here's a lynch pool for you: Percy, Gamma & N_M. I still have this "I don't vote N_M" principle intact, so if you pick him you're going to have to do it without me. Otherwise, which of Percy/Gamma would you lynch and why?
Btw you gonna keep that principle intact when it’s 4/3p my/LyLo?
Probably. After all, I didn't push for a Clem lynch to get us in this position. We can still avoid that situation completely by lynching Persivul. y'know.

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Post Post #1234 (isolation #156) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:11 am

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In post 1214, Not_Mafia wrote:He's a human being, just like you and me
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You see THAT is why I don't vote you. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #1235 (isolation #157) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:14 am

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In post 1216, stan1ey wrote:I'm 1 shot bulletproof town commuter
In post 1217, Persivul wrote:What's the commuting limitation?
In post 1218, stan1ey wrote:Odd night
The BS pile is getting bigger. I might as well counter claim. I am an unlynchable restless spirit.

Note for those who don't get it: Restless Spirit is a role than can still vote after it's been lynched. Unlynchable doesn't make sense because then Restless Spirit NEVER comes into action. In other words, I am BS'ing.

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Post Post #1237 (isolation #158) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:21 am

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In post 1220, joges wrote:I dunno, I mean on D2 scum would have no way of knowing a fruit vendor existed. I wish I could have gotten a piece of fruit, I'm not that versed in games with fruit vendors. Is it common for someone's first post to include "I got fruit" last night?
Not necessarily, but when someone says I got a guilty on you the first thing you think of is the Fruit you got, so Percy taking his time and looking clueless at first is pretty incriminating.

And forget about what Mafia did to Stanley for a minute. His claim is 100% BS. BP Commuter does NOT exist outside of a mindfuckery game. He's practically unkillable for the first 3 nights??? Why not a 3-shot BP? Why not a 3-shot Commuter? The combination doesn't make any sense AT ALL.

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Post Post #1238 (isolation #159) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:26 am

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In post 1224, stan1ey wrote:You know with the whole Clem and Joges both supposedly being roleblocked situation its confirmed there is 2 mafia remaning unless Joges is lying (which he isnt). i guess theres nothing wrong with speculating about me but dont you think that 10 town to 4 mafia (if im traitor being counted) is unbalanced? Also don't you think 10 town 3 mafia and one SK is even more unbalanced?
Traitor isn't unbalanced. In fact, it's a way to balance the game by giving Scum a weakened role. Traitor would auto-lose if it's the last player of it's team.

SK also doesn't make it unbalanced because they work against the Mafia too. It get a bit tougher for Town, but also for Mafia because the probability of the SK winning is taken off both other sides equally. (Say 40-40-20 instead of 50-50)

I -somehow- think you might be Town who messed up their gambit though. I am more inclined to let you be for now. I want to lynch Percy. How about it?

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Post Post #1239 (isolation #160) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:30 am

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In post 1225, stan1ey wrote:I was trying to bait myself to be night killed tonight by trying to imply id used all my shots but now thats ruined and im clearly gonna be mislynched tomorrow, im certain its Gamma and A50 now though. Joges is the one pushing on me but its them that voted for me, they want me lynched because it was a risk for them to try and night kill me again, ofc thats not the case anymore now ive said its odd but still my point stands
Listen. If you are Town you had better wake up and smell the air. Gamma may or may not be Mafia (why did you unvote him, btw?), but I can't be Scum by any means. I had absolutely no reason to hammer Clem (who was practically 100% pocketed if I was Scum). I am 100% sure Percy is Scum here.

VOTE: Persivul

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Post Post #1240 (isolation #161) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 1230, stan1ey wrote:Ive said it before but Persivul is town because Xtoxm tried to get him lynched when he was caught. theres no benefit to bussing your partner when youre caught
Except -of course- spewing them Town after you flip, which was a certainty at that point.

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Post Post #1241 (isolation #162) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:34 am

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@Stanley: You see, it's you bad arguments coupled with you really iffy claim that keeps me going back to you being Scum. You don't make much sense to me at all.

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Post Post #1242 (isolation #163) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:35 am

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In post 1236, stan1ey wrote:You know you can try and night kill me tonight if you wanna test that theory
What makes you think that I'm the Vig?

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Post Post #1248 (isolation #164) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:34 am

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It would. I mean we both seem to agree Stanley is suspicious. It's whether we lynch him (to decrease swing by removing a NK) or keep him (hoping he hits Scum) that we seem to have different views on, and I'm fine yielding to your PoV provided we still lynch Scum!Percy. Once lynched it will become apparent he was defending Stanley and Stanley was defending him and we will finally agree to lynch Stanley if he is not NK'd already.

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Post Post #1251 (isolation #165) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:35 am

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In post 1250, joges wrote:Why is Not_Mafia allowed to be in this game doing nothing at all and not get replaced?
Because he's N_M and that's how he plays. He has GOOD reads though, so that's one more reason for us to lynch Percy.

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Post Post #1257 (isolation #166) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:27 am

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I'll just vote with joges. He seems interested enough to solve the game, and -of course- I already said I TR him.

P-edit: I'll claim last.

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Post Post #1267 (isolation #167) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1261, Not_Mafia wrote:I think I'm a VT
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #1269 (isolation #168) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 1260, joges wrote:Claims mentioned, thread goes quiet. Okayyyy.
I said I'd be last to claim. then I went to follow Man City vs Liverpool

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Post Post #1270 (isolation #169) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:58 am

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In post 1266, joges wrote:CLAIMS
Joges - JOAT
Persivul - VT
A50
Gamma - VT
Stanley - Bulletproof Commuter
N_M - VT
I'm a VT, and I would lynch in the VTs.

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Post Post #1273 (isolation #170) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:24 am

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, then.. that does it. I would like to reassure you you'll never walk alone and I'm with you all the way in this game. :)

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Post Post #1293 (isolation #171) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:49 pm

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@joges: Mafia are Persivul + Gamma/N_M and lynching Percy is the only way we could have any chance of winning still.

Btw, ALL what Percy has been doing is try to convince Stanley not to kill him. (Assuming Stan is SK)

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Post Post #1297 (isolation #172) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:25 am

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Lynch Persivul

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Post Post #1304 (isolation #173) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:42 am

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In post 1301, joges wrote:I'm happy with my vote.
And I'm not changing mine.

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Post Post #1307 (isolation #174) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 1306, joges wrote:If he was town, there wouldn't be an issue at all right now to see that wagon finished. But it's not going anywhere. Not_Mafia is scum with either A50 or Persivul.
Then why not lynch Percy?
I do not vote N_M
, and is certainly not the last of his kind, if he is scum at all.

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Post Post #1308 (isolation #175) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:19 pm

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N_M -to me- is a 50-50 shot. However, Percy is +90% scum. It both are scum it doesn't matter which of them we lynch first, and if only Percy is scum we are throwing the game.

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Post Post #1309 (isolation #176) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:20 pm

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I would rather lose to N_M than mislynch N_M. I probably won't be alive tomorrow so you can do that without me anyway.

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Post Post #1318 (isolation #177) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:31 am

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In post 1310, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1307, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1306, joges wrote:If he was town, there wouldn't be an issue at all right now to see that wagon finished. But it's not going anywhere. Not_Mafia is scum with either A50 or Persivul.
Then why not lynch Percy? I do not vote N_M, and
is certainly not the last of his kind
, if he is scum at all.
Pardon? Why would you need to specify this?
Because we obviously didn't start the game with 2 scums. It's a 14 players game, so 3 or 4 scums.

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Post Post #1320 (isolation #178) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:33 am

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^^Btw, would yo9u consider this to be within the range of your "scum tell behaviour"?

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Post Post #1321 (isolation #179) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 1319, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah but everybody knows that
So? I'm arguing against his lybch, so making this obvious serves my case/argument

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Post Post #1323 (isolation #180) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:36 am

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The "why specify this" post. This feels like nitpicking on nothing. Busy work. Posturing. Fluff. Call it what you want.

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Post Post #1326 (isolation #181) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 1324, joges wrote:So N_M has 3 votes and no one has hammered. So either he is scum, or both scum are on his wagon currently. Fair?
Not if you are correct about being in a 3-2-1 situation now. Mafia would rather not make themselves obvious to the SK 9and especially so if they know who the SK is) so that they won't both target each other and result in a 2-1-0 tomorrow.

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Post Post #1329 (isolation #182) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 1328, Not_Mafia wrote:Lynch Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Gamma

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Post Post #1419 (isolation #183) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:12 am

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@Gamma: Are these your genuine reads for real, or are you trying to pocket me?

UNVOTE:

Hmm... now the ONLY person I'm certain is cum in this game is Percy. The other person is doing a great job finessing.

VOTE: Persivul

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Post Post #1423 (isolation #184) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:18 am

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@N_M: Scum Gamma doesn't miss the opportunity to hammer me, and certainly doesn't say he's not sure I'm scum while I was voting him.

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Post Post #1433 (isolation #185) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:56 pm

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Damn it, Joges. You're adamant on losing this fame, aren't you? It's Percy + Stanley if you're Town. Theoretically it could be N_M + Persy but my experience with N_M is he never busses. If I did the same thing I did with Clemency that would be explicitly me throwing. With Clemency I was hoping the flip would open up your eyes and you would realize working with me was best., but no.. you still want it your way or no way.

Well, I'll let scum have their say overnight. Not hammering Gamma. Let them sweat for their win.

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Post Post #1434 (isolation #186) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:57 pm

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:ole, unless Gamma transformed his/her playstyle completely, it's beyond my comprehension he wouldn't push me here.

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Post Post #1435 (isolation #187) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:58 pm

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?? Where did that emoji come from???

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Post Post #1440 (isolation #188) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 1436, joges wrote:
In post 1433, Almost50 wrote:Damn it, Joges. You're adamant on losing this fame, aren't you? It's Percy + Stanley if you're Town. Theoretically it could be N_M + Persy but my experience with N_M is he never busses. If I did the same thing I did with Clemency that would be explicitly me throwing. With Clemency I was hoping the flip would open up your eyes and you would realize working with me was best., but no.. you still want it your way or no way.

Well, I'll let scum have their say overnight. Not hammering Gamma. Let them sweat for their win.
Weren't you just voting Gamma for the longest time?
YES, and I CHANGED MY MIND when he said he wouldn't vote me, which is a tell I use on him. So, unless he has revamped his play style I no longer think he is scum here.

@Gamma: SORRY. I hope you don't mind me using he instead of she until I get used to it.

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Post Post #1441 (isolation #189) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:50 pm

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In post 1437, joges wrote:If it was NM and Pers why didn't Pers switch from NM to hammer Gamma? You have to realize Stan is a SK and isn't Mafia.
Is Percy online? You've just put Gamma @L-1 recently.

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Post Post #1443 (isolation #190) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:53 pm

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And besides, I told you before Scum (Mafia) would rather not hammer since the SK (if there's one) could target them and extend the game giving the Town a chance. The ideal situation -for Mafia- here if it's 3-2-1 is to have the SK shoot a Townie while they shoot the SK. They emerge as 2-2-0 or 1-2-0 depending on whether we lynch or not. That MUCH better than hammering & confirming themselves, so that the SK would shoot them and they shoot him, resulting in a 2-1 0 tomorrow

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Post Post #1444 (isolation #191) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:55 pm

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In post 1442, joges wrote:I doubt Pers will hammer his partner.
I dunno, man. I just know Percy is very very well in his scum range and Gamma isn't.

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Post Post #1447 (isolation #192) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:04 pm

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In post 1446, joges wrote:If mafia could kill the SK, it would have happened by now. They rolecopped him and know he is full BP.
You can't put a full BP SK in a 14 players game with just one Mafia team. Unless -of course- they could kill every other night, maybe?? Hmmmm.

@N_M: Mechanically speaking, going into the night as 3-2-1 is better for us than 2-2-1 in any case, and isn't much worse than 3-1-1 either. Unless you convince me Gamma isn't Town here I can't just hammer him like that.

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Post Post #1449 (isolation #193) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:32 pm

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Would you be so kind as to run the case on Gamma by me one more time? And what do you think about what I said to N_M about going into the night as 3-2-1?

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Post Post #1451 (isolation #194) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:29 pm

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How can it end in a draw when the SK is BP????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Post Post #1452 (isolation #195) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:30 pm

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See, these basic contradictions in your logic is waht keeps me going back to suspecting you. Like, every time you convince me you're genuinely trying you mess it up by saying something totally illogical.

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Post Post #1453 (isolation #196) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:31 pm

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If it was someone with more experience I would have called this an outright scum slip. Still not voting Gamma.

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Post Post #1457 (isolation #197) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:08 pm

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Well, it doesn't matter now, so I'm not going to speculate about the motive for you to unvote me IF you were scum when I don't even KNOW you're scum. All I'm saying is we still have a chance (and by we I mean the TOWN), unless there IS a SK and they decide to NOT shoot mafia for some reason.

In fact here's a thought: The SK only works on ODD nights, so that's the kill that Clemency blocked on me on N1, while the Mafia kill was on the BP SK. Mafia killed Chateau on N2 and then both kills resolved on N3. Mafia jept the SK alive on N4 precisely to have an extra kill tonight.

3-2-1 now and Mafia know Stanley to be the SK, so they shoot him tonight and he shoots one of them = 3-1-0. They shoot him and he shoots Town and it's 2-2 and Mafia wins. They shoot elsewhere (i.e. town) and he shoots then = 2-1-1 (Town still has a chance if we no lynch, knowing he can't kill on N6). They both shoot Town and its 1-2-1 and Mafia wins.

So, Stanley now
has to
shoot Mafia or hand them the win. He can holster but that still means we are 3-2-0 tomorrow, so we're still in it.

The last question is why would he shoot Mafia instead of Town if he is dying anyway? Well, because of the abysmal chance they either holster or shoot Town tonight, in which case we would be 2-1-1 or 3-1-1 tomorrow, with a chance for a MAFIA lynch and thus he can make it to LyLo still and try to wiggle his way out of the lynch fo9r a very impressive win.

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Post Post #1467 (isolation #198) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:59 am

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So, the Mafia have a Roleblovker? Or a Doctor, maybe?

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Post Post #1469 (isolation #199) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:26 pm

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Also, notice the Strongman? Clemency might not have been "blocked" on one of the two kills

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