mini 2048: more songs (game ougre)

[Robert2424]

I am here too.

Vote Nikk

Cause No profile picture. What are you hiding?

[Robert2424]

VOTE: Robert2424

Because you should have been born in 2011

No wait you should have JOINED in 2011 wow I'm retarded

A new challenger approaches: Trivium trips into the fight!

This took allot of effort.

[Robert2424]

Well thats better....I guess...

Unvote

[Robert2424]

VOTE: Trivium

VOTE: trivium

Can't even both to put your reasoning.....Found my first two suspects off the bat.

[Robert2424]

Thats a terrible wagon...

[Robert2424]

Thats a terrible wagon...

No

not you.....

[Robert2424]

it was the trivium wagon, for some reason the game didn't update all the way today, or my wife been reading the thread here, cause I read a few posts after my last, and that was it, wagon was forming. I'll make sure to refresh in the future just in case random shit.

Vote Lapsa

Idk what your doing, but why you pushing for such a early lynch when nobody put reasoning behind it. If you think I'm going to commit to a shit lynch wagon, your crazy. or asking anybody for that matter. I have to wonder about you.

[Robert2424]

Who is the person we've heard the least from?

[Robert2424]

@Robert are you running out of targets or something?

Targets for what?

@dough do you think xwing is a cop?

Yeah...Idk why he's so eager to find our cop, if we have a cop.

I personally think Robert is way scummier. The way he discredited people for naked voting isn’t townie. Naked voting is perfectly acceptable. His other posts leave much to be desired.

Sure, we can call it "Naked voting". I would call it more, unwilling to provide reasoning for your said vote to move here. Unless you have something to hide, sure. I've never liked votes like that, and I don't think I'm going to start now. Guess I'll be poking people with a stick just to figure out what the hell they are thinking.




I have to ask though, Wagon, whats up with the coin thing? I mean its very creative, don't get me wrong, I'm just wondering about it.

[Robert2424]

Cool, thanks for the clarafication.

@Nikk, Lol. Sorry dude. I wasn't trying to confuse you. I like to quote when I I've been gone and there is quite a few posts I want to respond to. Otherwise i'd be confused as hell when trying to type it all up after I've read everything.

[Robert2424]

Golden's posts very self focused, noncommittal, wanting to direct votes in a subtle way, and feels like he's trying to ride the xwing

Riding in a Xwing sounds fun and all, but I'd rather fly an Awing. *cue star wars music*.

I see where you're coming from, but right now Robert is more "overeager town" than "cunning scum" in my eyes. This could change. In the meantime, I'd like you to evaluate how you feel about the various other wagons.

How can you tell the difference? Also it doesn’t take cunning scum to do what he did. It’s easy for scum to push on things they would push if they were town. That doesn’t take cunning. It takes common sense.

Well, I've never been called cunning so I guess thanks? lol.

Sure, we can call it "Naked voting". I would call it more, unwilling to provide reasoning

Somebody not giving a reason doesn’t mean they are unwilling to.

Did you bother to ask them why they voted?

I really shouldn't have to ask people, hence my response before. If I need to poke people with a stick to see what the hell they are thinking, the vote has no context and dose nothing but pretend they are playing a number game without logic or reasoning, in witch case why play mafia. But if I have to do that, I guess I will. I like to share my thoughts as I get them, as if I die, at least I don't waste people time reading my posts. Even if its a lawl, vote, say some cheesy or funny to say that it is. Its unimaginative, and uncreative and dose nothing for the town. So I don't like it.

[Robert2424]

I really shouldn't have to ask people, hence my response before

You do if you want to know why they voted. You can’t say people refused to provide reasons just because they didn’t give one. Sometimes it’s good to not give a reason. Sometimes people just don’t have the time. Sometimes people do it to get a reaction.

Ask before you say people refused or don’t say they refused.

If they don't have time, don't post. I only posts when I'm not at work and on my home computer. If they are going for reactions, they are just putting unneeded spotlight on themself. I don't see why you need to defend naked voting so much.

[Robert2424]

Here I thought db was defensive. Lol.

[Robert2424]

There seems to be at least 2 wagons so regardless if anybody get lynched I'd say day one hasn't been a waste. Plenty of stuff too look at.

@Lapsa, why did you for nikk. For simply voting you?

[Robert2424]

Fos*

What do you mean by me being a square?

[Robert2424]

I wouldn't call it that.

I feel that a list could help. I'll gather my notes and give my opinion on everyone.

[Robert2424]

My list, Using the list from the mod so its in no particular order to be fair to everyone.

Doughboy, an interesting charicter to say the least. He claims me to be defensive when he voted me defending what he calls Naked voting. Witch should be called votes without substance or reasoning. witchs adds nothing to the game. I feel he could flip either way. Would like to see more in general when it comes to him. Could flip either or, but a slight edge to anti.
Nikk, He can be odd, but I feel he's trying to help the town. I havn't got any bad feelings and nothing he's done seems scummy to me. But its early and things could change drastically.
LolWagons, A person with allot of character behind him. I feel he's one of the most active if not the most active poster here. He has a feel of town, or he's just wearing a mask.
Trivium, the one who a wagon formed on with no substance or reasoning. I have to wondering if the wagon was on him from a prior game. The wagon on him is hard to read, mainly because it had no substance to it. Hence why I highlighted it. I do feel theres a fair chance Scum was on the wagon at least, if not good chance though. As for him, I'm leaning town because of the wagon. I don't have a good read on him tbh.
Wagonomics, A very roleplaying person, who makes his posts interesting to read. Hard to get a read on because of it. Must watch in the future.
Egix96, My notes on him are very small, but seems to be trying to add substance. Feeling town for now.
profii, Hard to say tbh. I feel he's jumped around a bit everywhere, but I feel he's only trying to get feel for everyone. Could flip either or.
Sashaddin, feel he's finnaly came out to contribute or at least seems so. I could of forgotten something. I really can't put him in either catagory atm.
Robert2424, crazy I know, I put myself on the list. I know I'm town, and wish I was more active in the game, I do feel I'm learning though with new terms and new situations.
xwing, I would put him leaning towards anti, What I have seen from this one is less then convincing, but hard to say cause hasn't posted because of being away, witch people are saying is an excuse. worth watching closely.
TheGoldenParadox, Believe it or not, I having a town feeling. Trying to get substance out of every player. but I need to write more notes on him.
Flubbernugget, not much on him, want to see allot more and bigger posts from him.
Lapsa, you would be the bottom of the list, you remind me of another player who doesn't really add anything to the game. From odd explanations to sometimes out right ignoring some of my questions, I have to lean scum with you. though if you somehow flip town, you've proven to be a distraction. I can't really find a post that feels town either. Hince why my vote is here, plus you were late on the no substance wagon as I like to call it. However, do I think you should be lynched D1? Its a hard question.

[Robert2424]

From odd explanations to sometimes out right ignoring some of my questions

I have answered all your questions

I wanted more explanation on you FOS on Nikk. It looks odd and out of place.

Doughboy, an interesting charicter to say the least. He claims me to be defensive when he voted me defending what he calls Naked voting

Easy on that shade. It’s not my color. I never called you defensive. You essentially called me defensive but I have no idea why you think that. Mind explain how I’ve been defensive?

Side note being defensive isn’t alignment indicative but since he brought it up, he should at least be able to explain/show how I’ve been.

I'll look up exactly what I'm talking about here and qoute it. You've been defending your "naked voting" along with everyone elses this entire time. Hence I've called your defensive, and consider your vote part of your defensiveness. dose it mean it makes you scum, no but I find it a bit scummy.

@robert how is post 17 late?

That may be wrong, adjusting my notes.

I find it hard to believe Robert from 2012 has never seen a lolwagon. Hell we have a player named after them. lol wagons happen in rvs and that’s what took place. I appreciate his attempt to look at the wagon for scum, however I feel if he were town he’d try to converse more with the naked voters. I don’t even think he said anything about the fact that he called out naked voters and then I intentionally naked vote. I don’t see any sort of curiosity coming from him, which probably means he’s more informed than I.

If it was a "lolwagon", it didn't turn into one after all those people jumped in on him.

Hence, my highlight of that vote train. Witch has stemmed all these issues.

[Robert2424]

@profli. Thoughts on Robert and him lying?

dunno if id call him a liar BUT I do find him scummy...

firstly it's hilarious that TGP called him potentially "cunning scum" and Robert says hey thanks for calling me cunning as if to slip "yes I'm scum I'm glad you rate my scum play so highly" sort of thing.

Also further to that, I think his push on the naked voters is low hanging fruit because as scum he cant find a fake push to latch on to so "that will do" - as you said, when i read you 2 in ISO, my first reaction was "just ask the reasons if you dont like the naked vote" but Robert gets needlessly defensive about it

VOTE: Robert

ah it wasn't dough. still don't see how I've been defensive on it.

[Robert2424]

From odd explanations to sometimes out right ignoring some of my questions

I have answered all your questions

I wanted more explanation on you FOS on Nikk. It looks odd and out of place.

gave you my explanation pretty much instantly on #233. repeatedly on #237

and was catching up with the thread

@robert what is your problem with me?

I don't really have a problem other then your attitude and some of the stuff you've said so far. I don't hate you or anything, just don't like your posts from what I've seen so far from me. Its day 1, so in the event that neither of us are lynched, day 1 will likely amount to just reads and feels, unless there is a lynch.

[Robert2424]

with we have till after christmas to get a lynch, and I am in no hurry to see anybody lynched and neither should anybody.

[Robert2424]

I didn't didn't feel you were db. I completely agree with you.

[Robert2424]

I've always found it better. I used to play on these one boards with 72 hours days and 24 hour nights and town had an 80% win rate. If not better while this other site I play on now with days like here it's around 48% town win rate.

[Robert2424]

that's a full dollar

What?

[Robert2424]

That would work too. If everyone had time.

[Robert2424]

I used to play on the Ikariam boards. (Browser game)Not anymore though. I play on the IRON fourms mainly. (Alliance fourms for a game called cyber nation's.

[Robert2424]

This site isn't bad. Worse case I can force them on the IRON boards to make you a mafia mask.

[Robert2424]

I must of missed something.

[Robert2424]

Robert's 245 has no scum reads in it.

you may need to read again. Lapsa, xwing, and barely DB made my scum reads.

seems Golden is at L-2, its a bit surprising to me. While I find sometimes his posts odd, he is at least asking questions. While he could flip scum, I'm more comfortable with a Lapsa lynch. I feel Lapsa has done allot less substance then Golden, and done some shady shit as well.

[Robert2424]

Defending your scum buddy?

lol, cause if I were to do so, would be a great idea. Since somehow people have already "linked me" with Golden somehow, thinking I somehow care if he got lynched. It won't hurt my feelings, I just think there a more scummy person, unless you have reasons not to vote for Lapsa?

[Robert2424]

what lie do you speak of LB?

[Robert2424]

VOTE: Robert2424

there you are! you've been gone qwite awhile.

[Robert2424]

eat me

salty. I guess you really don't like me, or did I figure out the scum team already? Best to try to eliminate me during a lol d1 lynch then shoot me at night.

@LB, wasn't a lie, I do feel people not providing reasoning for there vote is unwilling. Unless they expect us to read there minds.

[Robert2424]

I actually do have a case on Lapsa. Lapsa has yet to show any town in the slightest.

Course I'm waiting for someone to try to convince me to vote for golden.

[Robert2424]

I actually do have a case on Lapsa. Lapsa has yet to show any town in the slightest.

Course I'm waiting for someone to try to convince me to vote for golden.

You haven’t shown any town either.

In the slightest

I would disagree. But at least you agree Lapsa hasn't done anything townish.

[snip]
Riding in a Xwing sounds fun and all, but I'd rather fly an Awing. *cue star wars music*.

^slight townie points to robert for the star wars reference..
kidding aside, slight town points for wanting to push for his own read instead of sheeping..

I see where you're coming from, but right now Robert is more "overeager town" than "cunning scum" in my eyes.
[snip]

additional town points for robert since GP (my scumlean) called him an eager townie..

You do if you want to know why they voted. You can’t say people refused to provide reasons just because they didn’t give one. Sometimes it’s good to not give a reason. Sometimes people just don’t have the time. Sometimes people do it to get a reaction.

Ask before you say people refused or don’t say they refused.

^db is town..

I really shouldn't have to ask people, hence my response before

You do if you want to know why they voted. You can’t say people refused to provide reasons just because they didn’t give one. Sometimes it’s good to not give a reason. Sometimes people just don’t have the time. Sometimes people do it to get a reaction.

Ask before you say people refused or don’t say they refused.

If they don't have time, don't post. I only posts when I'm not at work and on my home computer. If they are going for reactions, they are just putting unneeded spotlight on themself. I don't see why you need to defend naked voting so much.

@robert: i'd be careful with your line of reasoning on "post only when you have time" plus "always explain yourself"..did could be used by scum to their advantage to appear townie..

#113-#118 (they aren't all his, but that window) in his ISO...I mean, that's bad.

I mean 115 literally describes 117 and 118.

Yup.

So don't discount the Lapsa lynch. I have the opposite stance of you. GP barely a better push than Lapsa. Need more from both.

im fine with either gp or lapsa lynch for D1..
let's move this along please..

Well I was hoping no one would specifically point that piece out because if people want to think there's a cop when there's not, that would typically benefit town, but you went and blew it.

Sorry dude. I did not think of the consequences as deep as you did. How does it help town? (Not a trick question, I just want to be educated)

^sasha is town..

Scum is always looking for town cred. I just say things how it is. Some people might not like it, I'm not looking to win a popularity contest. I'm looking to lynch scum.



At this point, I can see db, lapsa, xwing on a team together, could take sashi in one of the slots, but oddly enough I do get some town vibes from him. Course then idk. Xwing is coming up with odd certainty's. Its worthy noting and seeing if he/she expands on it.

@xwing, so your saying if I'm scum, lapsa would be town, but not if lapsa is scum I'm town?

[Robert2424]

I would disagree. But at least you agree Lapsa hasn't done anything townish.

I wasn’t agreeing with you

right. I'm seeing a pattern.

[Robert2424]

I mean sure, profii might be a bit more agressive, but I really can't say I think he's scum Golden.

[Robert2424]

You just are. at least you got it half right with leopard.

[Robert2424]

half right with leopard.

Lynx?

Snow Leopard.

I'm going to have to reread here, some peoples reasoning confuses me. Like for an example, laspa unvote, Wagonomics putting me so low while 3 people were voting for me.

to me, Golden could flip either way, though I would prefer laspa. Wagonomics seems willing to hammer golden.

Everyone seems in favor of a lynch, except Lapsa. so unless somebody jumps on Lapsa still, witch I don't think is very likely, Golden seems to be the person for today.

So the question is would I want to hammer Golden myself. I put in an earlier post somebody to try to convince me to vote for him, but nobody seemed to notice or care. So I have to wonder, who would people want to have hammer him?

[Robert2424]

I mean, I think it might be distancing. he's offered town no other option. He could of joined the laspa wagon, but he went for profii. I mean sure, he might be aggressive, but doesn't outright mean scummy.

I may have to relook, but what was Golden's thoughts on Lapsa?

[Robert2424]

VOTE: TGP



Done

Night

Gonna cop Robert

Did you really claim cop for no reason?

[Robert2424]

VOTE: TGP



Done

Night

Gonna cop Robert

Did you really claim cop for no reason?

You’re brown bread tomorrow mate!

don't get the term? lol. Even if he was to be a cop, doesn't make me any less town.

[Robert2424]

@golden, you going to post your thoughts on Laspa?

[Robert2424]

I think he was going for a reaction. Weather it be to find scum, find somebody not paying attention, or just to get a reaction for the fun of it.

Whats a CFD?

[Robert2424]

well, technically both if he's a double voter?

@wagonomics, If Golden was serous about it he should vote egix. or at least consider Laspa more unless he has reason not to. cause its been him or laspa.

[Robert2424]

Slight scumlean on egix, neutral on db.

I don't think a Profii investment goes through today. Would you like to invest in EgixCoin?

We’ve reached consensus already. Go look at the first few votes of Profiis iso. He’s a double voter.

actually, I'm not seeing it.

[Robert2424]

It's just a thing people are doing to get talking to happen.

People are just acting outside of the interest of the town (quick wagon, naked votes) to stir up conversation? To x's credit they did jump right in and ask good questions.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Why flubbernugget and not Dough?

Either works.

Are you saying that both scum naked voted on a lol wagon?

like in the last game when we got BEF it was hard to get the wagon over the line, so, let's assume the rush on triv was fully town...there were a few players who had already objected by the time i posted... so if the players i specifically asked (The undeclared) all kinda came out and went 'Eh why not, im not against it'

you could speculate that the rushers were town, the questioned were town and we hit a scum and found the objectors as his buddies.

I'm oversimplifying a complicated game, but i think there was a general mix of for and against anyway. I think we will have 1 scum for and 2 scum against and triv will be town- thats my guess. idk who

@profli. Thoughts on Robert and him lying?

dunno if id call him a liar BUT I do find him scummy...

firstly it's hilarious that TGP called him potentially "cunning scum" and Robert says hey thanks for calling me cunning as if to slip "yes I'm scum I'm glad you rate my scum play so highly" sort of thing.

Also further to that, I think his push on the naked voters is low hanging fruit because as scum he cant find a fake push to latch on to so "that will do" - as you said, when i read you 2 in ISO, my first reaction was "just ask the reasons if you dont like the naked vote" but Robert gets needlessly defensive about it

VOTE: Robert

[Robert2424]

I'm either blind or its really hidden. I don't see how he's a double voter from that.

[Robert2424]

The questions are good, regardless who answers it.

[Robert2424]

Well somebody going to get shot tonight, so just in case, you should get your thoughts out. Your thoughts could help.

[Robert2424]

who's the scum team trivium?

[Robert2424]

I mean, I think people are content with a Golden lynch. I can see Lapsa somewhere in there, but nobody feels strong on him as I do. But its either be part of a lynch, or be on a wagon that people won't get on.

Vote Golden

If Golden town, then I got a list, if not, we have a head start.

[Robert2424]

Is that hammer? I was lyncher, TGP was my target. I win right?

A lyncher? I certainally hope a role isn't in this game....

[Robert2424]

[tubular bells]
japanese breakfast - here come the tubular bells

d1 final vote count

TheGoldenParadox (7):

Trivium, LolWagons, Egix96, xwing, Nikk, profii, Robert2424

Robert2424 (2):

Doughboy, Flubbernugget

Lapsa (1):

Sashaddin

profii (1):

TheGoldenParadox

Egix96 (1):

Wagonomics

not voting (1):

Lapsa

with 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

VOTE: TGP



Done

Night

Gonna cop Robert

any thing to say young Robert?

Well, I'm not young, being 27 years old (At least younger then probally most people here) and in the Air Force. If your trying to get me to react to your "I'm going cop you Robert", well, I'm waiting, oh wait, there is no cop. I didn't say anything incase scum didn't read those details and tried to kill you for it. If your wanting me to RC, I'll wait to vote count or closer.

When it became clear Wagonomics wasn't going to commit to the Golden lynch, gave me the confidence that Golden might be scum then. He did flip scum and we are in a decent spot. I'll admit, I was wrong on my initial read on Golden, and others were right all along. Now we have allot to work with compared to yesterday. Wagonomics unwillingness to hammer Golden like he said seems like a bad attempt to lull people into thinking the wagon was going to happen and during the holidays nobody getting back on to finish off the wagon. However, I love to play mafia, so I was planning on checking in frequently.

Lapsa and Wagonomics were unwilling to jump on the golden wagon. Golden was unwilling to jump on the Lapsa wagon. I mean, there no logical sense in Golden doing that. As much as Lapsa going to just say I'm shading him, its facts. I wouldn't be surprised if Lapsa and Wagonomics are the scum team. Though Profili was on Trivium list, he just seems agressive, but I guess he could be end up part of the scum team as well.

Vote Wagonomics

Our most logical route is following peoples unwillingness, starting with his play yesterday.

[Robert2424]

If that's indeed hammer we are going to find out if he's lying or not.

[Robert2424]

Lol guys that's not a hammer pay attention. I just had a long day and I want more scum dead. Lapsa better intent before I wake up or I'm going to have a stroke

I doubt he will.

[Robert2424]

Regardless, I doubt Lapsa would even if he had gotten a chance.

[Robert2424]

Everyone eyes are now on profili. I can understand that he could of thought Lapsa did unvote wagon. However, this is getting to personal wangonomics. This is a game. There's a rule at least on the forurms I normally play on bringing past game judgement to new games.

[Robert2424]

How dose that kill indicate me as scum xwing? It wouldn't of been my choice as scum.

I do think profii should be looked at but in honesty Lapsa too.

Vote Lapsa

Nothing to say once the day opens Lapsa?

[Robert2424]

VOTE: robert

Reason/s

[Robert2424]

exactly

Sure, once you start doing something in the game.

Theres no more tprs so you can talk freely

*Sees N2 flip*


Does anyone else here think mastina could be an ascetic goon?

Could be possible. I guess. But I doubt that is the last town PR.

[Robert2424]

But I doubt that is the last town PR

Interesting take. In the first Mini Normal I played (2045 aka Boba Tea Mafia) there were only three TPRs (a watcher, a backup watcher, and a 2-shot vig IIRC) so... yeah, make of that what you will.

I didn't play that game, so I'm going off of what I've seen this game and what I know.

I missed you, xwing

i missed you too..

How dose that kill indicate me as scum xwing? It wouldn't of been my choice as scum.
[snip]

coz flubber was pushing for a robert lynch..
also your defense is wifom..very weak..
what's your case on lapsa again?

Theres no more tprs so you can talk freely

*Sees N2 flip*


Does anyone else here think mastina could be an ascetic goon?

i need to read the wiki and i need to hear more from mastina..other than that, i still think mastina slot is town based on db posts..

[snip]

[snip]i thought we were in agreement that we were going to look at profii slot? how come it changed to wagonomics?
i dont buy the inattentive vote from profii..
also the scumslip from tgp is too glaring to pass..did no one else find it glaring?

lolwagons got killed coz of it

..
VOTE: profii
[snip]

Bolded part seems a bit TMI-ish to me...
TGP voting xwing in early-game = possible distancing??

i removed the other parts but kept the relevant ones to lessen the wall..
im not sure if i should town read or scum read egix for this..i can see why you would think of the TMI, but i think lolwagons was a globally strong town read so the kill doesn't really surprise me..
the flubber kill, however, was very unexpected and safe i guess? so it's either flubber got a good read (e.g. scum robert), or he was just the unlucky recipient of the night kill..

Flubb pushing me wouldn't make me want to kill him as scum. It make me stay clear. There would be better targets that I would choose.

My defense of what, you implying I offed Flubber? Why would I go after somebody so inactive? I will say I'm surprised scum decided to choose him of all people though.

My Case against Lapsa is still ongoing. He is committing the bear min to the game. Off both Wagons, and seems to be getting mad that a Wagon won't form on me, so it feels like he won't commit to any lynch unless its his lynch, his way or the highway sort of thing, witch isn't inspiring me to believe he's town. Same with Golden, He was unwilling to vote Lapsa, and Lapsa was unwilling to vote Golden. Hence I decided to hammer Golden as I did. His post are mainly fluff and I haven't found one post that even remotely has generated conversation except against me or anything remotely towny. Found one scum like this, Hince why Lapsa should be looked at today as well.


@Trivium
Reasons?

[Robert2424]

Well, I'm not ascetic, unless its not in my Role PM. Second, if he wanted a direct answer, he should of asked, it could of been anybody he targeted N1, Except Nikk or me. As I wasn't Naiborized, and Nikk wasn't visted N1.

[Robert2424]

btw, if you haven't guessed by now I'm a Voyeur. Nobody visited Lapsa last night either.

[Robert2424]

If I'm already lynched, thats just bad play.

I have to Believe Trivium. I see no reason or counter claim to anybody else being neighborized. Cause some people havn't posted yet today.

I am Town Trivium. Still doesn't change anything.

[Robert2424]

btw, if you haven't guessed by now I'm a Voyeur. Nobody visited Lapsa last night either.

why are you claiming so soooooon..
this is a new role for me, will read up..
pedit: trivium you still sure on your wager..

I'm already at 4 at least, L-1. Guess you didn't notice that.

No, I'm town trivium. You're scum robert

Nope.

If I'm not lynched I'll be eating a bullet.

and nope still town profii.

[Robert2424]

xwing, how new to you at mafia? Voyeur isn't that uncommon last I checked?

[Robert2424]

You want to give up your legs Trivium once I flip and your wrong?

[Robert2424]

UNVOTE:

This is surprising. why the unvote?

[Robert2424]

Because lapsa enjoys playing with my emotions

Dose he do this often to you?

xwing, how new to you at mafia? Voyeur isn't that uncommon last I checked?

this is my 5th game overall, with 3 of them spent in the newbie queue..
it's my first time to encounter neighbor, loyal, and voyeur..
and sorry, i didnt count that you're at L-1 already, i thought there were more votes needed..

Anyone else have something to say about this? Let's give this a day and hammer robert into the ground

yeah actually, im not too confident now, in light of robert claim, and profii being onboard here..
UNVOTE:
usually, what i've seen is people give the benefit of the doubt to the claimer and then try to find someone else who's scummy..coz near the end of the day we can always go back to the claimer and lynch them accordingly if they were fake-claiming..coz on the chance that he's NOT fake-claiming, then we still have some utility there..
also, him choosing live targets (e.g. nikk and lapsa) makes me think he's being truthful..

This is fine, since this is only your 5th game, I can see that happening. New Roles will come. Its interesting when you do find them at least. I find your reasoning fair at least.

[Robert2424]

He's meaning to say, he believes my RC, but I'm still scum and not town. Meaning scum using it as a tool to find power townies.

[Robert2424]

Although, it wouldn't be very effective. you may visit someone to learn what types of action targeted them, if any other than yours. You'd know of a different role out there, not who. So I'm not sure why he thinks it would be such a great idea. I mean it be better then nothing I suppose, but I don't see it being effective.

Profii, that makes no sense, unless your saying a Scum Voyer targeted there own and got lucky on it. The way it be effective would target a townie with it or a slot thats likely to be targeted the most. I find it unlikely the knew he was a neighbourizer until maybe yesterday or they shot him cause he was inactive.

[Robert2424]

Yes, but I find that situation highly unlikely.

I can see a scum Role blocker more then that, and I doubt a scum Role blocker would of targeted flubber.

Odds are he did target scum but was unsure. either that or a transporter.

[Robert2424]

Mastina claimed ascetic. So that would answer Flubber if he targeted that slot. If he didn't he hit scum.

[Robert2424]

We also had two town naiborizers. I Imagine lolwagons used his action N1, If nobody got Naiborized n1, then he hit scum.

[Robert2424]

I know I'm not. profii, I could see flipping scum.

Whats peoples honest opinion on Lapsa?

[Robert2424]

If he did, I'd be Naiborized and would of been talking to him.

[Robert2424]

If your still naiborized if the naiborizer dies, who is the most likely Lolwagons targeted then?

[Robert2424]

Reading back, Lol was suspecting profii.....

[Robert2424]

I don't think we'd see a CC. I don't see why trivium would lie about it happening either. I don't think anybody is suspecting him or has. Yeah though he could of been on to something early. He was right with golden.

Why do you think you owe me a vote. your view on things could help the town when you get time instead of voting and leaving doesn't really help.

[Robert2424]

UNVOTE:

I wanna know what that's all about before we lynch - but i still want to lynch robert - plenty of time

Still time to lynch scum. Witch honestly I'm thinking its you and Lapsa at this point.

[Robert2424]

why lapsa?

I've read him as scum all game. Although I'm waiting for him to say why he unvoted, is the only thing that gives me pause.

[Robert2424]

You also asked me about Laspa Earlier?

[Robert2424]

idk who else it be. Nobody will even respond to Laspa, course if I am lynch, everybody going to be looking at him. Witch is odd to say the least.

If its not you, and its not me who else could it be? How would I benefit from mislynching you besides 1 extra night. Though say I am lynched, I flip town, I really wonder what some of you will say that is so sure I'm anti. Course I do think pride will get in the way with that, course if you are scum, you really don't care if I'm lynched.

[Robert2424]

lets just avoid the question...lol.

Trivium is getting upset over nothing. Some people on this site with big ego's it seems.

Xwing is the one taking a logical approach to this. @Xwing, from his post he seems undecided with me.

The fact they were both loyal I have to agree, somebody being ascetic ties into balancing them out. It was probally supposed to be unlikely to lose both of them.

@nikk, calling out no modifiers or roles dosen't mean it eliminates a role. As for Ninja, its ussally a mafia modifier, to buff the mafia with the idea of many of the Follow, watch, track, voyer role.

[Robert2424]

anouther*

[Robert2424]

Not really. I'm a town power role. I think it's a tossup who scum chooses tonight. Me or Trivium.

[Robert2424]

@profii, the Lynch wagon will be back on you tommorow if I'm lynched.

Glad you know about them. I don't know what scum has and doesn't have.

[Robert2424]

If your town you shouldn't be happily lynched.

[Robert2424]

unvote

At least for now.

[Robert2424]

So your not willing to claim? Or getting your fake claim ready still?

[Robert2424]

Ok. I have Intent to hammer, but waiting on your claim and everybody to read it.

[Robert2424]

That desperation from mastina.

Since when is it always a scum role? Please qoute sources.

The Flubber thing is a bad joke. Yes, I'd want to kill somebody who wants me Lynched and is reading me as scum? Maybe that's something Lapsa, profii or mastina would do. I was surprised he was chosen instead of someone like Trivium or xwing or anybody who was more active. So I'm guessing, somebody guessed he was a power role. Its a poor point at best.

[Robert2424]

Vote profii

L-1

He refuses to claim, probably cause he doesn't have a fake claim to supply. The only person not voting now is sash. So its up to him to make the right decision and lynch the desprete scum.

[Robert2424]

I said I’d claim after people considered Mastinas posts as we are both making the same case - there is a soft guilty on you and it’s the way to go - by the time that happened I wasn’t L-1 with intent anymore

Anyway - why are you so desperate to see my role mr role fisher?

Interesting that you leave the final vote in the hands of Sash who voted you yesterday but ok let’s go

Soft guilty? Right, right. I'm here to lynch scum. Yes, referring to Mastina post that is comically silly case against me. 2 people (Mastina (Doughboy), and Lapsa) that have contributed nearly nothing to the game and finally apart of the game when there a possibility to be lynched. There is you quick hammering a townie day 2 before anybody had a chance to unvote him to defend himself.

Either that or Trivium changes his vote onto you. (Btw Trivium, willing to bet your legs that I'm scum, if so, I can get the saw out and take them myself).

So I either vote and let sash do logical thinking to make the decision he thinks is best, or give the scum another mislynch with sash's vote only putting you at L-1. All I did was give him a chance and a choice since its either me, or you anyways. All I did was put my money where my mouth is make it an important decision.

[Robert2424]

UNVOTE:

I've read mastina's argument and I agree with it. Even if Rob is a Town Voyeur, that role is still nt much use to us.

Intent to hammer on Robert

It wasn't much of an argument tbh.

[Robert2424]

Apperantly the inactive sash was such a threat. Though that is a good question, unless Mafia is fearful of a Watcher or doc (Witch I can see with my role being in the game) I feel that an odd choice at best, or at least eliminating unknown as he didn't get a chance to weigh in on me vs profii. I guess I can understand it though since they probally feel confident I'll be lynched today.

I Visited Lapsa again. Nobody visited him.

Amazingly Profii flipped town with how he played, and now eyes are on me. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm quick lynched. I wish I would of known the mod did a bad vote count cause that is what I went off of. If Mod would of given me a chance, I would of unvoted even if it meant I would of been mislynched instead.

As I'll end up probably being lynched today, and I'll flip town when I do. It should be worth a read people reactions. But I should place my reads out there.

To be fair once again, I'm going on the order the Mod put in the opening of the day again.

mastina, His/Her post of why I must be scum obviously didn't set well with me and looks Desperate at best. But many people would say that I'm just saying that cause it against me. I could see him/her flipping scum. I'm glad yesterday lasted as long as it did, because that slot had next to no input for the entire game really.

Nikk, Seems like town and don't suspect him. He seems to be the second level head person here.

Trivium, Amazingly survived the night, so slight suspicion, but I'm still going to say I believe is town. Since he lost his arms, I'm still waiting on his response for his legs.

Egix96, Not the most active, but active enough I supposed, switched sides rather easy on matinas poor augment against me. I'm very neutral with him, if not alt scum. However, if is scum, he's played very well as scum.

Xwing, newest to mafia, but at least is actively looking at all options and asks questions. Would not be surprised if he/she dies after I'm lynched. Seems strongest town we have and is sad since Xwing is so new.

Lapsa, Should be rather obvious, I've read scum on him since day 1. If he'd participate more in the game instead of giving the bear minimum maybe I wouldn't believe whole heartally he is scum. Nobody knows his thoughts, nobody knows his views, I really hope if I'm lynched today he's lynched tomorrow, if not today.

So to top it off, my best guess on scum is Martina and Lapsa, with egix sheeping his way on the sideline as alt scum. If Lapsa dose prove scum, first opportunity I get I'm going to post the biggest I TOLD YOU SO. I'll be sreaming it behind my nice computer here, or quietly behind my phone screen the few times I get a chance when I'm not working on jets at work.

I still think and nobody has convinced me otherwise, Lapsa if probably scum. Hince my vote. Change my mind.

Vote Lapsa

[Robert2424]

Flubber only voted for me. He wasn't active enough to say much. So that soft guilty is crap. I didn't care and didn't even pay much attention to him till after he came up dead. It also didn't seem to have any coralation for him voting me. He didn't even seem to care about when he asked about acetic. I also don't see why he'd target me. I can see him targeting Mastina/doughboy. If I had his role, I probally wouldn't of targeted mastina/doughbody, I probally would of targeted Nikk, Xwing, Trvium, or Lapsa(For investigative purposes). We had two of these roles and they both failed. Flubber should of shared his thoughts more then he did and thats on him. You don't know who will be killed at night. Sash Wasn't very active yesterday and now we don't know what he thought now that he is dead from the night. Only proves my point to put your thoughts out there.

We'll wait for Mastina, Voting for anyone and leaving on V/LA or anybody isn't a very town move.

[Robert2424]

I Visited Lapsa again. Nobody visited him.

pretty sure you did

failing to understand why though

My Ability doesn't really help me much. As you can see by my results I may as well be a VT, nobody visiting anybody. so I have to think, what be an obvoise move that town would do to test to see if I'm a Voyager, so I visited you again. Say I visited Trivium, dose nothing even if he was killed. it would just say killed. Out of its sister roles, I've found i've never been this one and hope I'm never this role again. I generally dislike the role now. So if there was another town role, I imagine they would if there was a doc, sure be on trivium but dose it help town by outing hey theres a doc? No. Its not that people see me as I'm lying about being a Voyager, its the alignment. But if there was another investigative role of some sort, that targeted you, regardless of its results, I can at least know that person is town, and there would be no doubt that I was my role. If said result said you were town or likely town, I'd have to believe it. People would still say they are unsure of the alignment though, but its the only real way I can see using my role. Target somebody I think is probable scum, and wait really.

What do you mean by "We Lapsa"?

[Robert2424]

"We"*

[Robert2424]

and do you somehow know I visited you?

[Robert2424]

Mastina, you realize I've wanted to lynch Lapsa from day 1? I tried to make it the primary wagon. Then 2 town joined in on it. I also hammered once I felt wagonomics wasn't going to commit to the Golden lynch.

So you willing to bet those legs yet Trivium. "This is the some of the most obvious scum". I'll bet you, and throw my arms in as well.

@Nikk, just let them quick lynch me then. When I flip scum, mastina and Lapsa got explaining to do. Mastina and Trivium are so sure that I'm scum that when I flip the minds will be blown.

[Robert2424]

How do you not lynch Lapsa....He did nothing all game. Then Pretended to be busy. It was obvios Mastina and Lapsa was scum.

[Robert2424]

Nikk, C'mon man, I needed you to pull through, I knew you were town, thats why I said just lynch me, to prove my point. AGH.

[Robert2424]

Subject: mini 2048: yeet thread (NOMPELYE)

So with a loyal neighborizer in this game. Against an informed ascetic. And a multitasking roleblocker.

We're still looking at a shitton of power missing. It's a bit early to tell their exact nature but I wouldn't be surprised to see a vig in here. We also likely have a second investigative role, but probably not cop, gunsmith, or neapolitan. More like similar to the Loyal Neighborizer, or Tracker, or Follower, the like.
I'd be expecting AT LEAST four total town PRs in the game, potentially even five. I'd stay on the lookout for a protective as well, though I doubt ungated since it'd be a little unfair to expect the scum if losing the roleblocker to overcome follow the cop.

is she in the nrg or something

(You already know the answer is yes. )
Subject: mini 2048: yeet thread (NOMPELYE)

I really came to enjoy Nikk and xWing this game, as I did Profii and trivium last game.
It sucks to see them all on the same alignment just completely missing the mark.

For what it's worth, I second this!
Subject: mini 2048: yeet thread (NOMPELYE)

Damn Robert just called both

I know, rite? It was quite fortunate that he was the mislynch because otherwise we'd have to have nightkilled him.

There would be no reason to NK me, even If I wasn't mislynched. It would only say how right I was and seal your fate.