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ATM I'm relating to Shoshin's side in the exchange.
Flavor Leaf, you talked about wagon compositions on Mew/STW a lot - were you basing reads on them off the wagons, or were you using your reads on them to analyze the wagons?
Meanwhile I'll actually read up the exchange properly
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Yeah, except we weren't voting NicoRobin because of meta? Voted there because I didn't scumread anyone, and "a scum flip would be helpful" wasn't a justification for the vote - it was a rebuttal to someone who argued that a flip there's useful.In post 1352, Mewtaph wrote:Michael Scott - Kind of scummy? I just might not like meta arguments but the vote on NicoRobin and "a scum flip would be helpful there anyway" kind of bothered me
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I don't like it when people go "I'm not going to interact with you because I don't townread you", this is scummy.In post 1300, Mewtaph wrote:I don't want to sort to your slot at all because I haven't found a reason to town read you guys. So I really am just going to duck out of the thread - if you so wish you can mull it over with other players like you are already doing but I don't want a part of this not right now.
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But why thr jump to Kokochi, @Stw? I don’t understand this at all.In post 1459, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Horrible vote and reasoning and thought process. I'd lunch this tooIn post 1378, Shoshin the worst wrote:VOTE: Kokichi
If this greens I'll reconsider AC
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No only tw can “hatchet” you, since he’s actually a duck.In post 1464, ProFlavor wrote:
He wasn’t even in OK2 much, and yes, it’s similar. Any decent scum player is going to be able to match their town play, especially Day 1. Why are you using that as a full excuse that Alchemist can absolutely not be scum here?In post 1457, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
I just freaking told you that I see 0 difference in his play here, than in OK 2, in fact, he is even more obviously townie here, so once I again, pretend I’m dumb and explain to me how Alchemist is possibly scum here?In post 1446, ProFlavor wrote:I would say STW/Alchemist. Neither of them are townie whatsoever.
Scum was on the Mewtaph wagon. Regardless of Mew’s alignment.
Are you hatcheting me so STW doesn’t get killed?
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How is Kokichi “aggressively bad” and even if you’re right about that, how does that make him scum?In post 1474, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Jjh will actually play the game.In post 1383, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
Why is Kokichi a so much better vote than Nico?In post 1378, Shoshin the worst wrote:VOTE: Kokichi
If this greens I'll reconsider AC
Otherwise I'm treating them as basically hard town
Kokichi is being aggressively bad.
@AC I wouldn't scumread you based on Kokichi's meta. I might just consider it in greater than face value which is pretty much how I'm treating it currently.
When did Nico slot become townie? *scratching my head*
Why did you jump off of Mew in the first place?ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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So then why tf are you voting Kokichi?In post 1475, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Bruh it should be pretty obvious why I have that approach to the gamestate. It's got nothing to do with the strength of the list. I genuinely just don't get the Mewtaph townread even slightly and nobody is taking the time to point me in the right direction which has me wondering if they're not super confident on it either.In post 1387, ProFlavor wrote:
This is a false bravado and an attempt to discredit the player list.In post 1379, Shoshin the worst wrote:Mewtaph is still a great vote if people pull their heads out but I'm losing faith in this list rapidly
I feel we’re actually a strong playerlist, and whoever said this is attempting to cause doubt within town.
It’s Day 1. Nobody should genuinely have that kind of attitude towards the game state.
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Dafuq? How and what makes you so sure he isn’t “lynchbait”?In post 1476, Shoshin the worst wrote:
"let's not lynch him because he's lynchbait" is agenda driven thinking. Kokichi's iso is high wolf equity lol.In post 1389, ProFlavor wrote:Kokichi is also mislynch bait this early in the game. Shoshin is super scum.
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don't position our slot like this. take a few minutes to try and see what we're seeing?ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Are you sure Kokichi isn’t this game’s NM?In post 1478, Shoshin the worst wrote:
I don't think Kokichi's alignment is related to yours right now noIn post 1394, Almost Chara wrote:it's a foolish one if so (not that i'm discounting your interpretation).
what's pretty bizarre to me is the belief that Kokichi's alignment has anything to do with mine here, as though his bad meta read on me has credence provided he's town.
but Leaf, do you think STW decides to have their cake and eat it too, by which i mean continuing to have us as strong town while also trying to lynch someone i don't want to lynch, and leave us open as a target on later days?
and thanks for the answer, Nancy.
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he was correct on scum!me last game and couldn't be bothered explaining it or revealing his triplevoting IC role that would have confirmed me scum
so if he does flip green I'll take his read on you like 1% seriously and actually see how I feel about it and whether it's worth engaging with you on.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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In post 1479, Shoshin the worst wrote:
#goodpostingIn post 1399, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
+1In post 1396, u r a person 2 wrote:
Can I think that Mew is scum and that you are wrong!town or was there a logic piece that makes that not possible?In post 1392, ProFlavor wrote:So there, Mewtaph and I would have to be scum together AND you’d have to think I would Super obviously protect them in this position AND I would hard town read Varsoon, a solid player who I know would very much end up tunneling me if he thinks I’m scum.
You meant that for Bono, I assume. I doubt my “+1”, remotely qualifies as “good posting”.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Pintu is recovering from surgery, so not touching that today, Taly is town and am I the only one in this freaking game that thinks that anyone advocating a PL on ANYONE for no good Goddamned fucking reason, is open wolfing?In post 1484, Shoshin the worst wrote:If this is actually all t/t scum is >rand lurking.
The way Mewtaph is ducking out all the pressure has me cringing again.
Jjh excusable due to rep in. Kokichi's pop ins are consistently bad. Pintu/Taly still worth keeping an eye on.
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The REASON for the pressure on him, was that his posting was “In post 1495, ProFlavor wrote:He just had a lot of pressure on him. Of course his posting was gonna seem weird. It's what people push as "flailing" but town flail too.weird”. Is this Opposite Day and did I somehow fail to get the memo?ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Yeah, damned right, I will be a huge freaking “obstacle”, to anyone attempting to lynch a hard townread.In post 1261, Mewtaph wrote:
It's how scum would respond from beginning to end. Me trying to push Alchemist through here requires thread presence I don't have - Nancy is acting as a huge obstacle to me pushing him at all and reflecting votes onto me in a very destructive manner.In post 1258, Michael Scott wrote:@Mewtaph: Alchemist rebutted your attack on him, you left it at that though - why?
Rationale for STW, Almost Chara?
Why a policy lynch on Nancy?
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Tl;dr, the rebuttal is how a scum responds and the basis of his approach to me isn't how town thinks. I'm not responding to a hard SRSome peopletown would call it “pro-town” but I digress.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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So no link?In post 1262, ProFlavor wrote:
Was this the one where we partnered up and had two desperate games?In post 1222, ProFlavor wrote:
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbhIn post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
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I'm not the one who brought it up. I was asking myself.In post 1513, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
So no link?In post 1262, ProFlavor wrote:
Was this the one where we partnered up and had two desperate games?In post 1222, ProFlavor wrote:
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbhIn post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
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Feel pretty good about MS being town here.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Speak for yourself - I won mineIn post 1514, ProFlavor wrote:
I'm not the one who brought it up. I was asking myself.In post 1513, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
So no link?In post 1262, ProFlavor wrote:
Was this the one where we partnered up and had two desperate games?In post 1222, ProFlavor wrote:
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbhIn post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
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In post 1516, ProFlavor wrote:
Speak for yourself - I won mineIn post 1514, ProFlavor wrote:
I'm not the one who brought it up. I was asking myself.In post 1513, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
So no link?In post 1262, ProFlavor wrote:
Was this the one where we partnered up and had two desperate games?In post 1222, ProFlavor wrote:
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbhIn post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
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~woofLurking in the game is my town trait, and I am much more assertive as scum. I am sure that those who played w/me can tell you that much. ~NR
Nico might be scum here. I’m curious as to what her replacement does. Oh, have you read the scum PT yet? That’s the best part.
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it made me think she might be town but it's a bit wifom'yIn post 1517, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Nico might be scum here
like there are maybe 6 people in that game, now in this game, whilst some where in the 'other side' of that game, enough people know that Nico pushed lurking as her town meta so she should be conscious a lot of people wont trust her if she does the same thing - and we had a strong wagon, no surprise...
If she is the sort of player that uses her meta to sell her alignment then she needs to rebuild the trust so if she rolled a town PM, I think she would purposely lurk for her own personal long game meaning after this game as time goes on she can go "see guys, I do lurk as town"
I think that way because there was one time I was in about 3 concurrent game with Ausuka and I was a mix of T!ausuka/S!profii + a game of S/S so Ausuka was literally watching my scum game as my partner and my enemy - so I was purposely playing up to certain things to deceive her specifically (and it was working iirc, she mistakenly said I was a strong town read in the T/S game)
so I think some people will play with all their games in mind, not just each game in a bubble and I think Nico might do that here given the replace out - let someone town up the slot, Nico gets to say she town lurks.
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Spoiler: continuing the tangent
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okeyIn post 869, u r a person 2 wrote:oh and i think someone asked me if im an alt, im not
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good question, gonna see how this shakes out
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I'll do you one better, why is Mewtaph?
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