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[Slaxx]

idk I just lolhammered town penguinpower for an obviously fake reaction to a fakehammer that turned out to be real

town do a lot of ridiculous things and they do them more often than scum

^This could be scum who knew Eyes was town. Also don't like the "lol" reaction to Eyes power role hunting and telling scum to shoot her power role read. That move by Eyes was blatantly playing against her win condition. It could have fucked us over. I can't imagine why town would find that funny.

lol

Idk I feel like if they were trying to distance Roo would have done more than just lol here

[Invisibility]

what do you mean?

[Slaxx]

If the goal was to distance I feel like there’s be more theater to it.

[kitcat]

I

think

vizzy is out of his scumrange but I disagree with most of what he's saying
I don't find SA/rooroo to be particularly plausible

[kitcat]

I kinda want to vote SA but I'm feeling a little eh about voting with Slaxx + vizzy

[Invisibility]

If the goal was to distance I feel like there’s be more theater to it.

eh i disagree but im not really sure how to convince you otherwise.

[Invisibility]

I

think

vizzy is out of his scumrange but I disagree with most of what he's saying
I don't find SA/rooroo to be particularly plausible

can you like, break down what you disagree with and why you find sa/rooroo unplausible?

[Invisibility]

implausible*

[kitcat]

a) I still think rooroo is town so slotting her in scumteams feels weird

b) the 'lol' thing is a really really strange push and I don't think that's the sort of push that happens on a partner

c) I don't think scum!rooroo calls for prs to claim there, nor for her partner either, unless she + SA have some sort of cc scheme that will involve SA trading himself for a PR; I don't think scum!rooroo really wants to carry this by herself and I don't think she purposefully puts herself in that position

[Slaxx]

Okay this game is stagnating and it is probably a stupid thing to do but the more I think about it the more pissed off and confused I get so I am just going to do it.

I claim Doctor.

I am claiming primarily because there is almost no way, after Eyes stupid fucking stunt, that I'm not the roleblock/rolecop target, and I don't want to explain tomorrow, if it was a block and not a cop, that "Lol I saved eragon but was roleblocked" because I am pretty sure at that point I lose the game for town.

Literally the only thing I knew to do after he called me PR was to be so fucking blatant about it I wouldn't draw the night kill hence:

Final reads:
Eragon + rooroo + CoA are 100% town
Pink + kitcat are probably town
Invis + Slaxx are the likely scum pair
Assassin might be scum if one of Invis/Slaxx isn't

Gun to my head: Invis is more likely scum than Slaxx (who might be a PR who doesn't know how to play a PR).

Yes you were pushing on someone who you thought was PR very good very good.

Yup he got me I am the doctoriest doctor to ever doctor a doctor festival. So talented.

Breadcrumbed the save, not that it mattered:

VOTE: slaxx

I think I'd like to start here. You had like one post that I liked in twilight but other than that I don't think you've been much townie at all.

I still think vizzy and eragon are fairly strongly town, and rooroo probably is too.
I was probably going to push pink ball today so I guess it's a good thing that he died. It's a bit of a surprising nk though. I would have expected eragon or vizzy instead.

And sorry for being on that wagon - I didn't think there was much danger leaving it there because I wasn't exactly expecting an imminent wagon on him or for the day to end or anything.

I was really expecting Vizzy to get killed, and I'll leave it at that.

What was the townie post and what specifically do you not like about me? It is day two, it is time to start articulating your reads.

Anyway, I was waiting for this game to end: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78039

Where I got NKed N1 as a PR because the shitty BG wasn't on me. I was lolwagons there. I overcorrected my town play this game because I knew there was no PR to save me and that I was responsible for saving people. I couldn't play the game aggressively.

I do NOT want the other PR to claim and I would like to remind them to be very cognizant of their reaction to this, and to not give themselves away.

If I thought I had absolutely any utility left at all I wouldn't claim, but I also don't want to do it at L-1 with a day until deadline, and once again I suspect mafia already know who I am, or have their roleblocker on me. I feel like this is usually the wrong play here, but it might actually be the right play for this game because a lot of people's lynch pools are really small and I am in them. And if you don't buy the claim we can just end my suffering because fuck this role. I cannot filter myself organically.

[CultOfAthena]

Unvote

[CultOfAthena]

I don't counterclaim.

[kitcat]

Fuck, sorry, it's kinda my fault that you had to out

I believe this
Most of the posts that were weird were the ones around the pr claim and I did think 'what if he actually

is

a PR and had the awful bad luck of getting called out by that,' but I didn't think that was super likely + it explains why you were purposefully trying to play differently

VOTE: Sleepless Assassin
That's L-1

[kitcat]

Ok the possible setups we're in are kinda awful and not helpful really lol

[kitcat]

CoA you're now in my lynchpool
Vizzy and Eragon townreads are a weaker too

[CultOfAthena]

Assuming that nobody counterclaims:

Taking every townread I had previously, that leaves me with SA/rooroo left. To make a bit of an ironic move, however, I don't really feel comfortable with that.

I think my Eragon townread is worth relooking at.

[Slaxx]

UNVOTE:

That is probably going back up, but I don't want anyone to hammer. I want a day or two to look over the thread and really try to figure stuff out.

[kitcat]

I don't think SA / CoA is a thing - I'm not really getting the vibe that scum!SA is the sort of player to lolbus their partner day2 in this sort of gamestate where CoA has *some* townreads on her and SA doesn't really have any on him

[kitcat]

Best SA partners are probably: vizzy = eragon >> coa >>> rooroo in that order?

[kitcat]

UNVOTE:

That is probably going back up, but I don't want anyone to hammer. I want a day or two to look over the thread and really try to figure stuff out.

Fair enough, we still ahve a few days

[Slaxx]

#737 from kitcat literally taking blame for outing me I think comes from town more than scum, along with voting the other scum read and not unvoting and seeing what way the wind blows

I also am pretty confident they aren't partners now not that I really did anyway.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Unvote, Vote

:

Slaxx

Doc can't exist with my role. I'm a tracker. Kitcat went nowhere N1. Other town power role has to be follower or vanilla cop.

Mod Edit: Changed 'Vote Slaxx' to 'Vote: Slaxx' as the votecounter will not register votes without a ':'

[rooroo]

VOTE: Sleepless Assassin

Mod Edit: Vote tag

[Slaxx]

Unvote, Vote Slaxx

Doc can't exist with my role. I'm a tracker. Kitcat went nowhere N1. Other town power role has to be follower or vanilla cop.

VOTE: Sleepless Assassin

Lol alright.

[rooroo]

kitcat is vanilla