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Post Post #1875  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:14 pm

I just don’t think he is an amazing lynch right now - I think a more vocal player is directing us somewhere

I always struggle to read him so I’m kinda deferring an actual stance until there is more content

Plus if he is an actual IC and he activates it in the next hours, that’s a big mess - if he is town thats what scum want to happen because chaos with not long is their goal etc etc

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Post Post #1876  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:14 pm

STW, I'm just asking questions atm, mate. I don't mind if you share, but you don't have to.
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Post Post #1877  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:14 pm

In post 1873, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1871, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1865, Shoshin the worst wrote:@urap2 notice anything uncomfortable about ProFlavor's reads?

Climb down off that fence and say you scum read me
Ha ha

I did pretty candidly lmao
Get your own sly shut-down. ;)

I added pro flavour to yours duh

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Post Post #1878  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:15 pm

Ps netflix - catch up in an hour then sleep for me which will pass deadline - I have no idea on FL activity so erm yeah!

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Post Post #1879  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:16 pm

In post 1136, Taly wrote:-_- or i could just not see the nico-scum alongside not seeing a point to PL with the amount of divison in the thread

but continue to place WIFOM on me with every single thing i say outside of my votes and wagons, im sure thatll get both of you places :roll:

and i do want to see Michael/Pint actually post some

Again. He defends the Nico policy lynch (that's ok), but keeps asking for me to come to the thread when I stated I couldn't.

My point of this is that Taly tried to look engaging and that he was participating in the thread when he was clearly not doing that much. It felt like he was projecting his own lack of engagement and reads into me and the rest of the players who weren't posting that much, in order to give himself the status of "thanks to me, the people who weren't posting came to the thread" in order to get townread (he explicitly said something like this) and also to get an easier mislynch than an active player's mislynch.

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Post Post #1880  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:18 pm

oh and, preliminary Taly reread says it's still town Taly. being very concerned about the gamestate as a whole and pushing back against what amounts to the entire thread are both towny traits. obligatory Chara has never seen scum Taly to its memory.

however, a scum jjh would lead to Taly as a good partner candidate, and vice versa. but that's conditional and Taly disliking lurker lynches as town is not a surprising stance.

if Taly flips town at any point, i think this series of pages and the Taly scumreads expressed here would become very interesting due to their timing.

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Post Post #1881  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:20 pm

In post 1141, Taly wrote:honestly, anyone who keeps "OKing" a Nico wagon or even a Kokichi wagon at this point is just saying "im not going to do anything else but push for a PL until we get content out of this one player"

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Post Post #1882  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:21 pm

Ay so like
Can we get some actual votes, anyone?

-V

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Post Post #1883  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:25 pm

In post 1874, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1870, ProFlavor wrote:I scum read you early on but there was a lot of town reads heading your way which I don’t really understand so I just assume I m being slow

Therefore if FL has a strong scum read on you then he can vote because I’m not confident in any read bar STW tbh


I'm trying to understand what info you were trying to convey to the rest of the players. Do you think there is much chance of FL finding a scum read on mew or me in the next few hours?


@pro

Above in case you missed it, but also, who is this more vocal player directing us? Are you talking about MS? Why this "I think the invisible hand directs us all" vibe?
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Post Post #1884  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:26 pm

In post 1882, Varsoon wrote:Ay so like
Can we get some actual votes, anyone?

-V

It would be irresponsible from my part since I'm still catching up, but I think it's pretty clear I'm scumreading Taly right now. Problem is, deadline is close and don't know if a vanity vote is what I should do right now.

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Post Post #1885  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:26 pm

VOTE: STW
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Post Post #1886  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:45 pm

MOD AnnouncementTaly is replaced by Creature

The deadline is extended by 24 hours

New deadline is (expired on 2019-01-18 03:00:13)


Votecount 1.17
Shoshin the worst(5) ~ (225), (144), (19), (56), (138)
Kokichi Oma(3) ~ (287), (140), (74)
jjh927(3) ~ (348), (105), (110)
u r a person 2(1) ~ (68)
pinturicchio(1) ~ (116)


Not Voting (1): (12)

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-18 03:00:13)


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Post Post #1887  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:46 pm

In post 1237, ProFlavor wrote:That’s a lot of words for what could have been

TW used the word holistic 41 times over a certain time period / X as town / Y as scum so it’s NAI
Then ask why point disagreed


Why use 100 words when you can use 10 eh


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Michael Scott is right tho. Since I came back to playing mafia, I played with town!duck and he used the "holistic" wording a lot and I didn't remember him doing that like 3-4 months ago, so I thought it was a town trait he developed to be more serious when he rolled town. What I mean is: usually, serious!duck is usually town, so since "holistic" thingy = seriousness ---> "holistic" thingy = town!duck. But yeah, I've read some more resent duck' games and he's been using that wording a lot, so it's NAI.

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Post Post #1888  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:54 pm

Flavor Leaf coming to the thread after an eternity to unvote Mewtaph when he was at L-1: good timing. If he was scum and Mew was town, he could've waited and said he was townreading Mew after the mislynch. Either Flavor is scum with Mew, or Flavor is town. The latter is much more likely.

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Post Post #1889  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:15 pm

In post 1883, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1874, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1870, ProFlavor wrote:I scum read you early on but there was a lot of town reads heading your way which I don’t really understand so I just assume I m being slow

Therefore if FL has a strong scum read on you then he can vote because I’m not confident in any read bar STW tbh


I'm trying to understand what info you were trying to convey to the rest of the players. Do you think there is much chance of FL finding a scum read on mew or me in the next few hours?


@pro

Above in case you missed it, but also, who is this more vocal player directing us? Are you talking about MS? Why this "I think the invisible hand directs us all" vibe?

I basically just wanted to scrawl down my thoughts to see if anyone went “definitely yes” or “absolutley not” to narrow some things down towards the deadline I wasn’t really trying to convey anything in particular

FL town reads Mew - without wanting to put words in his mouth it seems like FL empathises with Mew because he sees Mews reads as a little against the grain and I know FL likes it when people do that

It’s not clear what he thinks about you


I’m terms of the vocal player - I think in a few of my recent games, I’ve seen Day 1 scum lunches and the familiar pattern has always been a clear consensus that we should lynch that slot for some particular reasons - we seemed to be going that way towards STW imo but then the town bottled it which is why I think it seems like the STE wagon is a hard to push through wagon, which is usually indicative of scum

So why would such a good thing fizzle out? I don’t see how lurkers would be able to topple that momentum so it’s got to be within someone who is pushing against STW - that generally means STW is scum and we will find someone who doesn’t want to vote there

Who was the person that voted when STWs wagon initially died? That’s where I would be looking tomorrow (I think mew, despite FLs town read but I feel like he is kinda biasing himself because he sees his own town play within mew :P I’ve not told him that yet so it’ll be lols when he reads this)

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Post Post #1890  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:26 pm

In post 1885, Almost Chara wrote:VOTE: STW
~A50

this was me. don't know where my head was at. (literally? :>)
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Post Post #1891  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:27 pm

oh, we have 24 hours! hi Creature.
VOTE: Kokichi
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Post Post #1892  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:28 pm

just noticed the extra day - sleep time for me then now

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Post Post #1893  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Yeah, I gave myself a break because of the extra day, but I'll keep going later.

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Post Post #1894  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Creature, you town?
hydra of Shoshin & the worst!

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Post Post #1895  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:35 pm

In post 1890, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 1885, Almost Chara wrote:VOTE: STW
~A50

this was me. don't know where my head was at. (literally? :>)
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This is great. :lol:
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Post Post #1896  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:39 pm

ffs I didn't rand scum
Sigh

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Post Post #1897  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:43 pm

you sure? why are you ffs'ing that? lol
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Post Post #1898  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:47 pm

I wouldn't need to put effort just for it to not mean anything.
Sigh

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Post Post #1899  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:54 pm

so you wanted to roll scum
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