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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:35 am

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Big sigh
We can't let STW get away with this
If we do
They'll keep getting away with it
They'll just win again
Fuck all of you for letting that happen once
I'm not gonna let it happen again

I SHOT THEM
THEY DID NOT DIE

Come onnnnn
just lynch STW
Don't let them survive
Because I won't make it through the night
and it feels like I AM THE ONLY ONE fighting for their lynch
And I don't want to lose to those guys again
Ever

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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:40 am

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In post 1950, Varsoon wrote:Big sigh
We can't let STW get away with this
If we do
They'll keep getting away with it
They'll just win again
Fuck all of you for letting that happen once
I'm not gonna let it happen again

I SHOT THEM
THEY DID NOT DIE

Come onnnnn
just lynch STW
Don't let them survive
Because I won't make it through the night
and it feels like I AM THE ONLY ONE fighting for their lynch
And I don't want to lose to those guys again
Ever

-V
Shoshin would be a compromise lynch for me. I'm null on that slot right now. Also I can't take outside my head the idea of you being a lyncher :lol:
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 am

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In post 1579, Mewtaph wrote:Hmm, ok.
I'll also be around before deadline if this doesn't work.
VOTE: pinturicchio
In post 1581, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Shoshin the worst
Eh, not feeling it.
Uh oh, this is not good.
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:53 am

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Changed my mind

VOTE: Shoshin the worst

I'm more convinced in my scumread on Michael Scott now too. This two are scum together.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:54 am

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If I was a lyncher, the real vig would counter-claim and I'd be destroyed.

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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:00 am

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In post 1954, Varsoon wrote:If I was a lyncher, the real vig would counter-claim and I'd be destroyed.

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The vig counter claiming you would be an awful move from the vig. But I don't think you're a lyncher; I've seen you tunnel like this. You're more lyncher than a lyncher.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:01 am

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For posterity: Michael Scott is following wrong town!Nancy to wherever she goes.
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:09 am

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Town: Varsoon, ProFlavor, AlmostChara, Tibor and Lumia, Alchemist21
Townlean: Mephistophanes (mainly because of Ari's posting), Mewtaph, URAP2
Null: Kokichi, jjh
Scumlean: Creature
Scumreads: Michael Scott, STW
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:11 am

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pint sees the game pretty much as I do, I think I was asked what my read was - town and wasn't sure earlier... but town now.

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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:14 am

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In post 1957, pinturicchio wrote:Town: Varsoon, ProFlavor, AlmostChara, Tibor and Lumia, Alchemist21
Townlean: Mephistophanes (mainly because of Ari's posting), Mewtaph, URAP2
Null: Kokichi, jjh
Scumlean: Creature
Scumreads: Michael Scott, STW
I would change very little in this - however - I have never called a full scum team on day 1.

The slots I expect to swing are in everyone you've said leans. I'm happy to town bin all your towns and I scum read your scums.

I'm assuming I'm wrong on Mewt and I'm wondering if Mephi will be the first to swing the other side of the null line but then again 2 null slots will skew this when they become active I think as they will introduce new perspectives.

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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:16 am

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In post 1955, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1954, Varsoon wrote:If I was a lyncher, the real vig would counter-claim and I'd be destroyed.

-V
The vig counter claiming you would be an awful move from the vig. But I don't think you're a lyncher; I've seen you tunnel like this. You're more lyncher than a lyncher.
Yeah, this is true.
The real defense I should prop versus lyncher spec is the setup is mod confirmed to only have town and scum in it.


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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:17 am

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I think Meph is town because of Ari but that was long ago, I can't recall why I was townreading them. Nancy I really can't sort her, had the same problem on OK2.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:18 am

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In post 1960, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1955, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1954, Varsoon wrote:If I was a lyncher, the real vig would counter-claim and I'd be destroyed.

-V
The vig counter claiming you would be an awful move from the vig. But I don't think you're a lyncher; I've seen you tunnel like this. You're more lyncher than a lyncher.
Yeah, this is true.
The real defense I should prop versus lyncher spec is the setup is mod confirmed to only have town and scum in it.


-V
Good call
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:34 am

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I'm having lunch now and got another kinesiologist appointment in an hour and a half. I should be back in three hours or so if something comes up
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:46 am

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I'm back suckas
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:48 am

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btw I'm in objection to the Kokichi vote but I'll discuss with Brass if I can
I'd rather see how his Chara read shakes out first.
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 1478, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1394, Almost Chara wrote:it's a foolish one if so (not that i'm discounting your interpretation).
what's pretty bizarre to me is the belief that Kokichi's alignment has anything to do with mine here, as though his bad meta read on me has credence provided he's town.

but Leaf, do you think STW decides to have their cake and eat it too, by which i mean continuing to have us as strong town while also trying to lynch someone i don't want to lynch, and leave us open as a target on later days?

and thanks for the answer, Nancy.
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I don't think Kokichi's alignment is related to yours right now no
he was correct on scum!me last game and couldn't be bothered explaining it or revealing his triplevoting IC role that would have confirmed me scum


so if he does flip green I'll take his read on you like 1% seriously and actually see how I feel about it and whether it's worth engaging with you on.
This feels astonishingly weak of an assert of intent to follow up on Kokichi's read. It leaves plenty of room to say "still think Chara is town".
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:58 am

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In post 1491, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1483, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1422, ProFlavor wrote:What do you mean I’m not?

I feel I’m spouting it out pretty clearly.

He’s done nothing scummy, the 2 players who started it are known to tunnel, and there was no resistance before me.

That right there near locks him into town.

And this is BEFORE actually analyzing his play.

He’s been actively giving reads. He’s been asking questions. He’s been in the spot where he’s taking on multiple players at once. This is the epitome of a mislynch. He’s being extremely genuine, and showing thoughts of figuring out the game.

Mixed in with this and my town read of Varsoon, while seeing that U R A and Nancy are confused and trying to figure it out, I feel STW is near lock scum.

Honestly, probably with Mustang here.
You're not being clear at all. You've already decided the conclusion you're going to end up at so you're talking in circles until you get there. The fact your alleged townreads and your lock scumread are both as fucking confused as each other at your posting should probably tip you off that you're the one not expressing yourself properly... :lol:
This is actually far from it. Majority of my games are very fluid.

Gamma says I second guess myself and flip flop a lot. I don't like to leave any corner undusted. Been trying to stop with the second guessing, though.

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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:01 am

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In post 1507, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1476, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1389, ProFlavor wrote:Kokichi is also mislynch bait this early in the game. Shoshin is super scum. :lol:

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"let's not lynch him because he's lynchbait" is agenda driven thinking. Kokichi's iso is high wolf equity lol.
don't position our slot like this. take a few minutes to try and see what we're seeing?
Dafuq? How and what makes you so sure he isn’t “lynchbait”?
Also: what makes lynchbait town? I dislike people asserting lynchbait has to be town, like it may be a point towards it but sometimes the lynch is simply that easy.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:03 am

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Mephisto is one of my strong townreads, based entirely on Nancy.
i dislike any votes that aren't on Kokichi or STW. because less than 24 hours.
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:03 am

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In post 1514, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1513, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1262, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1222, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbh
Was this the one where we partnered up and had two desperate games?

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So no link?

Don’t le me down, Eraserhead.
I'm not the one who brought it up. I was asking myself.

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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 1939, Shoshin the worst wrote:VOTE: ProFlavor
why not Koki?
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 1518, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1517, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Nico might be scum here
it made me think she might be town but it's a bit wifom'y
Honestly kinda in agreement here
Also need to check where else Nico opted to replace out of a game because I remember one instance but not what alignment she was or which game
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:09 am

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In post 1950, Varsoon wrote:Big sigh
We can't let STW get away with this
If we do
They'll keep getting away with it
They'll just win again
Fuck all of you for letting that happen once
I'm not gonna let it happen again

I SHOT THEM
THEY DID NOT DIE

Come onnnnn
just lynch STW
Don't let them survive
Because I won't make it through the night
and it feels like I AM THE ONLY ONE fighting for their lynch
And I don't want to lose to those guys again
Ever

-V
Was this a poem?
Ice never seen conftown call for a polict lynch on powertown via poetry before.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:11 am

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Interesting turn around pint - why are we scum?
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