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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:11 am

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In post 1971, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 1939, Shoshin the worst wrote:VOTE: ProFlavor
why not Koki?
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I'll switch back to Kokichi if we need to.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:13 am

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Yeah Nico was town the last time she opted to replace out, which was Heroes Wanted, and given her meta and recent games she's been in points to her being town.
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:13 am

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Can you show me what's towny about her posts rq?
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:16 am

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No vote count at the moment, will try to do one in 4 hours or so (busy day), but do want to make sure it's clear that there will be no more deadline extensions and that the current deadline of (expired on 2019-01-18 03:00:13) will be final.
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:17 am

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In post 1558, Varsoon wrote:Mewtaph's going to flip town.
Vote Shoshin.
In post 1559, Shoshin the worst wrote:So are we....
Hmmm...
VOTE: shoshin the worst
If this reds I think Mew is spewed town
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:20 am

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In post 1977, Shoshin the worst wrote:Can you show me what's towny about her posts rq?
It's nothing about her posts but her posting habits.
I feel like scum Nico would have stayed in the game until something made her leave, which is what happened in the worst idea mafia. The fact she chose to replace out, something she only does as town iirc, probably makes her slot town.
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:23 am

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In post 1574, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1537, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1121, Mewtaph wrote:Okay, so here's an expansion of the thought I briefed at the beginning of my - Alchemist has shown themselves to be a competent player in that he appeared active during and after RVS and easily adjusted into a neutral mediator role between Shoshin the worst and Varsoon. He takes multiple opportunities early on to appear present in the thread that seems crafted to achieve nothing but a sense of activity and general noise, but unlike other offenders of this act, shows that they have no particular interest in trying to wrangle active thread control, staying separated from those willing to fight each other over it. Town has no reason to engage with this type of engagement which allows presence but allows for separation from the events taking place for 20 posts, especially when they decide to make , which is a fairly analytical post to sort somebody as town using logic, right?

Except after Alchemist's ISO #0 to #20, he starts to move away from the early dispute and the problem is that his first post () in doing so feels artificial because when directly questioned, he points to the post as a reason to follow him as being town. was disconnected from his original line of thought in that I question if he actually thought of it in the first place. In sum, they've taken multiple stances but have retracted those stances to the point where he's been able to keep his options wide open outside of Varsoon/STW/Mephisto which are easy lynches to strike out as scum, while offering the overall illusion of coinciding ideas of being engaged and sorting the game state out, while failing to achieve either in any way that I believe in.

I could be wrong, but I'm comfortable with the rationale for my vote.
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I want a reason for why you asked me how I read myself with no anticipated answer. That's a question people with pre-existing notions on the subject ask.
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I expected no based off of your commentary in , but also some sort of clarification on engagement or activity. I thought your response was in line with what I expected. In terms of "open-ended", I was open to however you wanted to interpret it, though saying yes would be kind of a tonal shift off of what you already said so would require some follow-up or reasoning for me to verify. IIRC, you weren't appearing as much as Brass at that point which is why I wanted to get an answer from you then.
Okay, so you DID have an answer you expected and had plans to read into it. Why not state such then?
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:24 am

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In post 1579, Mewtaph wrote:Hmm, ok.
I'll also be around before deadline if this doesn't work.
VOTE: pinturicchio
In post 1580, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1565, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1544, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1534, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1531, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 993, Shoshin the worst wrote:I think it's just Mewtaph and Taly atm but it does not make any sense to me, either.
Looks like it was just Mew tbh. I don't know what their shared meta is rn, Mew/Alchemist care to elucidate me?
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I don’t think I’ve played with Mew before.
Ah, so he isn’t even basing his bad read on meta. His insistence in pushing you for reasons which make 0 sense to me, reads off to me.
I'm not playing in any games with you after this tbh, so you can stick "meta" up your ass.
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Nice AtE fail. Bravo.
In post 1581, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Shoshin the worst
Eh, not feeling it.
Curious.
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:33 am

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In post 1653, Michael Scott wrote:Ah, okay. The "22 edits" got me overthinking. Nevermind, then.
Yeah no that should be important.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:35 am

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In post 1664, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1600, Shoshin the worst wrote:I'll switch to jjh as a sheer compromise but if that slot's town we'll start to see it.
I would've been fine with a Nico lynch but it seems like JJH plays in a non-lurk way and I trust that we'll start to see if it's town.

And Kokichi? I don't think so. We'll just continue to have that bad quality play, where he could be any alignment, and still a liability to town in my eyes.

Nancy, I think you tend to dislike anyone who begins to scumread you, so you do carry some bias I think - but Mewtaph's posts actually carry a lot of depth in them - compare to any scumgame of his, I think there's a slight difference. *shrug* Need to do a deeper study but I'm leaning town slightly.

Shoshin actually began to scumread Mew less recently, and I think that's kinda town-indicative for her, since scum!STW would be survivalistic and probably try to push the second-biggest wagon.

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Alright, what's your big plan then?
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:41 am

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In post 1720, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1718, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1411, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Also Eraserhead/Leaf, please explain to me in what world advocating a policy lynch on our slot is not even remotely scummy. And what about Mew’s weirdass Gamma question?

What possible town motivation is there in Mew asking Gamma if he should townread her?


I’m waiting. :popcorn:
I can see town motivation in the question. I CanNOT see town motivation in asking it in sucha throwaway manner like Mew did.
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Hmmm . . . interesting. Yeah, didn’t he say, he wasn’t expecting an answer iirc?
He said he did but I still think he didn't really care, I definitely think the "he asked it to look like he was doing things" idea holds water, though if STW flips scum I'll prolly let it go.
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 1740, Varsoon wrote:Also, I don't really know that a 'rudeness tell' holds weight.
correlation is not causation

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Meh I definitely think behavioral tells are useful. I, for example, tend to try to "cash in" whenever I see something that could be painted as scummy when I'm scum. While as town I might hold off.
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:00 am

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Okay, I'm here.

Anything you need from me?
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:46 am

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Yes Creature
What's on your mind?
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:48 am

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In post 1988, Shoshin the worst wrote:Yes Creature
What's on your mind?
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:48 am

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anyways
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:49 am

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just casually reiterating that Taly's slot is obvscum and should be lynched d2 if you dumbasses actually lynch us
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 1991, Shoshin the worst wrote:just casually reiterating that Taly's slot is obvscum and should be lynched d2 if you dumbasses actually lynch us
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I see you didn't like my few posts...
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 1933, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1930, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1928, profii wrote:You’re voting me and you weren’t the first - what’s going on?
How does my not being the frst matter?

I wasn’t a fan of your hydra partner’s posts.

I don’t want to vote outside of you, Mew, Pint, jjh.

I would prefer Mew but there’s too much resistance and Pint looking worse, also makes Mew look worse, as well. Since I felt that they were probably the same alignment.
Well this is a concern.

I voted STW
I voted Mew
FL unvoted Mew
I can't remember who voted STW but we both were happy with that vote.

but you are specifically unhappy with FL despite me being the main protagonist of this ISO?


Why me over Pint given he was picked up in Michaels case?

This stinks a bit I think
I’d prefer Mew, since I want to live a bit longer in the game and I doubt any player wants me dead, as much as he does but I don’t see that happening rn. :/
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 1938, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1913, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1912, Shoshin the worst wrote:No chance Creature is leaving my PoE until he's produced some town indicative content and both of our heads are happy with it - I also want to hear something from Chara before we go down this rabbit hole to be comfortable. Like I said we're not wagoning Taly/Creature today. That's the most I can give you.

Do you think the scumteam is genuinely just straight up those 3? I can...kinda not see a reason to think it's WRONG I just don't feel like we're close enough to a 100% solve when I don't trust either Kokichi or Creature's slot.
I hard townread Taly and Creature’s entrance just locks it in for me. Scum!Creature never adamantly defends himself like that. *lightly smacks TW for not seeing that* :lol:
....heroes wanted?
what are you seeing as outside Creature's scumrange from that entrance?
I have a hard gut townread on Taly and yes, I don’t see scum!Creature making that kind of post.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:07 am

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In post 1941, Varsoon wrote:
We are not swinging a last-minute wagon on Proflavor.
That wagon does not have the vocal support for a majority vote.
Please stop supporting vanity wagons in the last 24 hours we have.


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Well, I don’t like either Stw or Kokichi wagons.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:08 am

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In post 1943, pinturicchio wrote:I'm at page 53. Mew's reaction to his wagon was great. How he approached Nancy is exactly how I'm feeling right now: she just defends her townreads by attacking whoever is scumreading them. Flavor's reaction to Mew's wagon is townie as hell too, but I already said this. I don't see any scum intention on how Pro unvoted unless both Mew and Flavor are scum ---> Mew is apparently town because of his reaction ---> both are town, which is much more likely than both being scum (thinking that I caught two out of three scum instead of two out of ten towns... My tinfoil hat is not ready for that)
No it wasn’t. Mew’s reaction was horrible and very unlike town!Mew.
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 1945, pinturicchio wrote:Alchemist's reaction to Mew's posting is townie too, makes even more obvious that it was a tvt interaction with a lot of OMGUSery
Okay, we agree on Alchemist as town and why do you think Mew’s push on him, makes any sense to you whatsoever?
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:11 am

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In post 1947, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1365, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm telling you guys. Chara is scum. Meta never wrong
This is awful too. Kokichi is trying to play crazy ol' Jenkins to avoid the lynch.
I’m still waiting for him to explain this meta read.
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