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Post Post #6187  (isolation #400)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:27 pm

In post 5785, davesaz wrote:
In post 5776, PenguinPower wrote:Why is this important right now?

People throwing around traitor stuff, thought it would be good to think about plausibility numbers wise.


Fucking guy posted last 5 days ago.

Let's Lynch this bullshit.

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Post Post #6189  (isolation #401)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:32 pm

In post 6188, davesaz wrote:This game will be solved with results.
I don't have any and haven't seen any.


Sounds good. Watch out for bears.

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Post Post #6190  (isolation #402)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:35 pm

Psst... hey guys, over here. Yeah, kinda not kidding about dave needing rope here. There is a lot more going on than just follow the whatever he is waiting to follow on to someone. The fact that he isn't really wanting to make a play for either side is the most fence sitty thing I've seen in awhile. Does dis dude have any independent thought or is he just waiting on a guilty to follow?

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Post Post #6193  (isolation #403)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:48 pm

In post 6191, davesaz wrote:If I die read my iso with a critical eye.


Well, seeing as it's only 78 posts long I don't think anyone will have trouble diving into it.

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Post Post #6195  (isolation #404)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:59 pm

In post 6194, davesaz wrote:Your actions are anti-town. Final warning.


That's rich.

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Post Post #6196  (isolation #405)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:01 pm


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Post Post #6198  (isolation #406)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:03 pm

In post 6110, Something_Smart wrote:I'm voting Thanos btw.


He did say he was fine voting tlk as well.

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Post Post #6214  (isolation #407)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:24 pm

Are we ready to end the day?

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Post Post #6216  (isolation #408)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:29 pm

VOTE: End this fucking day

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Post Post #6224  (isolation #409)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:53 am

VOTE: EJ

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Post Post #6227  (isolation #410)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:55 am

I’d be ok with your death too, but EJ needs to be sorted ASAP

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Post Post #6228  (isolation #411)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:56 am

I thought EJ was the hammer -M

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Post Post #6229  (isolation #412)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:59 am

Actually SS is a good vote too.

They both are

VOTE: SS

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Post Post #6237  (isolation #413)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:02 am

VOTE: EJ

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Post Post #6241  (isolation #414)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:04 am

How is Elsa also lying not alignment inductive either Auro

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Post Post #6247  (isolation #415)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:06 am

Lol EJ if you think you were healed. I don’t think a doc would touch that with a 39 and a half foot pole

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Post Post #6263  (isolation #416)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:14 am

Thanos u need to be watched too

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I have a top five list at the moment you’re in it

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Post Post #6266  (isolation #417)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:15 am

Eat rope

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Post Post #6268  (isolation #418)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:16 am

Anyways bed

Byeeee

I want a EJ head on a silver platter tia

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Post Post #6320  (isolation #419)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:02 am

In post 6231, Thanos wrote:Nope, Something_Smart was supposed to be; he said Elsa should be second to last, agreed to be the hammer, said he had his vote down, and didn't vote.

I see you were trying to shift a wagon onto Davesaz towards the end? Lul, Something_Smart is scum, and I bet you're buddies with him, and that makes Dave town.


If you are referring to when I was frustrated with Dave not playing and then going lva as "trying to swing the wagon" then I guess?

And now that Tlk flipped SS what was I trying to do? Pull off the mislynch to start a counter wagon?

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Post Post #6321  (isolation #420)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:03 am

In post 6232, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6224, Nev and Max wrote:VOTE: EJ

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In post 6227, Nev and Max wrote:I’d be ok with your death too, but EJ needs to be sorted ASAP

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In post 6228, Nev and Max wrote:I thought EJ was the hammer -M


VOTE: Elsa

Sheeping this.

Hardclaim, we kept the vig and used it on Elsa.


Wonder if recruitment happens regardless of where the shot comes from, could explain why Elsa is alive.

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Post Post #6327  (isolation #421)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:06 am

In post 6250, Elsa Jay wrote:Well a Jailkeeper would definitely do that.

How elsa do you explain no kill with both a vig and maf shot? Clearly scum went for me as well.


Why clearly? Why would scum shoot you when you are going to be lynched today? Other than to recruit you. Cause you're the traitor.

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Post Post #6331  (isolation #422)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:08 am

In post 6264, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 6261, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6258, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6254, Thanos wrote:
In post 6243, Elsa Jay wrote:I unvoted and voted again like you told me too, but sadly a fatal error was made because I unvoted and revoted in the same post: it cancelled each other out and didn't count as a new vote.


@mod, if I unvote and vote in the same post, does the timestamp change?


It definitely should.


@Boon


Unfortantely he told me he's not answering this question out loud. Whether that incriminates me or clears me is up too you, but I'm not lying here.


Does it hurt having his hand up your ass? The voice throwing is fantastic, top notch really.

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Post Post #6338  (isolation #423)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:18 am

In post 6322, davesaz wrote:Pedit @ Nev&Max -- don't even suggest I'd fake a VLA.


I didn't. I said it's bullshit that you didn't post in the last 5 days leading up to the day ending, and then when it was ending you go lva.

I mean with the lva it would have been 8 days without a meaningful post from you, and that's me giving you the benefit of a doubt that when you did post it was meaningful.

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Post Post #6341  (isolation #424)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:23 am

Else should be the lynch today. Nero has a point that if it didn't die with lead the first time then we need to introduce her to rope.

And gravity.

Mostly gravity.

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Post Post #6360  (isolation #425)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:34 am

In post 6355, DrewVa wrote:Start of day:

Vote Count 4.~~

Not Voting [17]: Kokichi Oma, BrightEyedFish, Elsa Jay, Davesaz, Cheeky Dancer, RCEnigma, Nero Cain, Nev and Max, Xotxm, PenguinPower, UnaBombah, DrewVa, Creature, Profii, Thanos, Something_Smart, Gamma Emerald


With 17 alive it is 9 to lynch

Day will end on : (expired on 2019-02-11 18:00:00) on February 11th, 2019.


We voted elsa

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Post Post #6370  (isolation #426)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:39 am

In post 6362, UnaBombaH wrote:Btw...they are both scum! :lol:

Why didn't S_S vote TLK?
Because they KNEW Elsa wasn't going to end up last on the wagon.
Meaning they would've committed suicide then and there! :lol:

Town!S_S would've assumed that Elsa ends up last on the wagon OR is scum.
So they would've done their vote on TLK, and ended up dead after the lynch. :]
Instead, they KNEW that Elsa wasn't going to do it because scum has no reason to kill themselves like that (because any day they survive further advances their wincon).

BOTH OF THEM not doing what they agreed to do, means that they are both scum. :]


By George! I think you've got something here.

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Post Post #6396  (isolation #427)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:54 am

In post 6388, RCEnigma wrote:Drewva I'm not sure if you read SS' last post in the boonus round or not. If you did what did you think about it?

Spoiler is it pissed me right off.


What was the post?

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Post Post #6406  (isolation #428)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:59 am

In post 6403, RCEnigma wrote:Boon corrected it in my confessional before I claimed. Literally right before but I didn't check it till he pmed me. I don't know of j can say that but I said it.


Why don't you restart this one from the beginning? With the correct info perhaps.

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Post Post #6567  (isolation #429)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:39 pm

Still rather have EJ flip then SS

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Post Post #6573  (isolation #430)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:05 pm

In post 6568, Elsa Jay wrote:What benefit do we get with my flip as a "traitor"over his as part of the main mafia team?


Because I don’t really see scum having two role cops/cops on their team.

Also I don’t believe the bulls hit you’re spewing

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Post Post #6574  (isolation #431)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:07 pm

So question.

How can one dodge the NK, but receive gifts unless gifts were gifted on the even night and they are delayed in receiving

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Post Post #6597  (isolation #432)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:08 pm

In post 6579, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 6577, Xtoxm wrote:i also had an action fail on elsa last night

VOTE: Elsa



Then this leads more credence someone jailed me or something then. Why elsa would I have survived the shot?


Is the sticky fruit still out there or did it die with TLK?

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Post Post #6598  (isolation #433)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:13 pm

In post 6535, Elsa Jay wrote:Also, WHAT TOWN FUCKING CHECKS A SLOT WHO CLAIMS MILLER/TRAITOR. THAT SHIT IS FOR A VIGILANTE TO DEAL WITH.

Pedit: yeah, which is why you're claiming that and saying "no way mafia have 2 rolecop!". Your not even a mafia Rolecop, probably a goon or something.

You got called out for lying. Why would expect scum!me to ever hammer at all? You just doomed McQueen to death.


WRT the bolded: we don't think you are town. If we did then we wouldn't have had you hammer. If you were town and the Miller you would have gladly laid your life down on that SS sword for us.

You didn't, which leads me to think you aren't town and need to die. So that's why we are where we are because you didn't vote where you said you were going to.

And if Boon really didn't allow a vote change and didn't say anything about it then he broke his own game a tiny bit. More believable theory is that you're just scum and knew TLk was town and didn't hammer so you didn't die.

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Post Post #6600  (isolation #434)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:15 pm

In post 6544, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, a failed scum gambit. Checking a dude who CLAIMS Miller by crumbing traitor? Who the hell checks that?


A town role cop seems like a good choice for that action. You just seem mad that you're caught.

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Post Post #6601  (isolation #435)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:19 pm

In post 6551, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 6547, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6544, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, a failed scum gambit. Checking a dude who CLAIMS Miller by crumbing traitor? Who the hell checks that?

Because that's totally something you would do as actual miller.


Day 1 i claimed to be informed about a vigilante then admitted to lying about that.

In Overkill 1 I claimed Neutral doctor of all roles and ended up getting shot at by the mafia and Serial Killer on 3 separate occasions.

In Excalibur I claimed to have a fucking sword (which would have made me immune) and the mafia KILLED ME ANYWAY.

You clearly underestimate what I can do as any alignment.


It seems like he took what you can do into consideration and used his ability to figure out if you were a friend or a foe.

If he is telling the truth we lynch scum in you. If he is lying he dies tomorrow.

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Post Post #6604  (isolation #436)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:23 pm

In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.


This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?

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Post Post #6607  (isolation #437)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:27 pm

In post 6603, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.


He's already lied twice.


If we are going off who's lied the most I think Elsa still wins hands down.

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Post Post #6609  (isolation #438)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:29 pm

In post 6605, Elsa Jay wrote:Gamma: reasonably unvotes me after I explain the situation

Xtoxm: votes me for reasons unrelated to SS and wants answers.

Nev/Max: "But Elsa has too die first"

One of these 3 is not like the other.


Sorry? I don't know what you want from me here. I don't believe you. I think you're scum. I want you to be lynched because I think your lying scum.

Maybe the other two don't feel as strongly as I do and are more willing to waver when presented with circumstantial evidence that feeds into the narrative you're creating.

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Post Post #6615  (isolation #439)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:33 pm

In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.


This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?

Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.


I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.

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Post Post #6618  (isolation #440)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:35 pm

In post 6610, Elsa Jay wrote:Minor lies. I'm a compulsive liar and also compulsive truth teller.

Lying doesn't equal scum though in some circumstances. Smart's does, however.


Except this is all predicated upon the idea that Boon would willingly insert himself into a game by not updating a vote when it's done in the same post as an unvote.

I don't buy that. Any vote should be counted and the fact that your voting issue just so happen to take place on the same wagon where you would have most likely died is suspect as fucking hell bro.

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Post Post #6619  (isolation #441)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:36 pm

In post 6611, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6607, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6603, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.


He's already lied twice.


If we are going off who's lied the most I think Elsa still wins hands down.


This is gross.


Pointing out that Elsa also has lied is gross? You're the one pointing out that S_S already lied. Is what's good for the gander not good for the goose?

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Post Post #6621  (isolation #442)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:38 pm

In post 6616, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6615, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.


This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?

Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.


I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.

Sorry, not trying to be mean, just got a little cheesed when your other head answered my question and you came in with that.


Um what

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Post Post #6626  (isolation #443)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:42 pm

In post 6621, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6616, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6615, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.


This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?

Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.


I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.

Sorry, not trying to be mean, just got a little cheesed when your other head answered my question and you came in with that.


Um what

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Don't worry max, I'm confused by what's gamma is talking about too.

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Post Post #6631  (isolation #444)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:44 pm

In post 6622, Elsa Jay wrote:Sure, that's one major point against me. As well as me surviving the Vigilante. But your having rose tinted glasses on and ignoring Smart completely, so honestly you seem like scum chainsaw defending him.


I'm not ignoring anyone or anything. I see what he is saying and it makes more sense to me than what you're saying. It's as simple as that. I believe him more than I do you.

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Post Post #6633  (isolation #445)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:45 pm

In post 6624, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 6620, Something_Smart wrote:I definitely sent the neighborizer shot to profii. Either something interfered with it (which I really hope isn't possible) or Boon just hasn't seen it yet.


Oh look Nev, he's blaming Boon for something too.


No he is saying that Boon Missing something is a possibility.

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Post Post #6636  (isolation #446)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:47 pm

In post 6625, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6619, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6611, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6607, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6603, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.


He's already lied twice.


If we are going off who's lied the most I think Elsa still wins hands down.


This is gross.


Pointing out that Elsa also has lied is gross? You're the one pointing out that S_S already lied. Is what's good for the gander not good for the goose?


Yeah...your comment about S_S dying if he was lying didn't have anything to do with Elsa. It didn't have anything to do with the amount of times someone lied. In fact, I wasn't aware there was a competition. This just feels likes a child whining "well he's lied more" as a way to direct to Elsa.

Gross.


I suppose we are just going to have to see things differently here. You are vilifying S_S for lying in such a way that would trap Elsa. Elsa has lied multiple times in this game and you hand wave that away.

Which is more gross?

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Post Post #6638  (isolation #447)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:48 pm

In post 6632, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6626, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6621, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6616, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6615, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.


This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?

Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.


I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.

Sorry, not trying to be mean, just got a little cheesed when your other head answered my question and you came in with that.


Um what

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Don't worry max, I'm confused by what's gamma is talking about too.

Oh profii answered it.
Sorry.


I feel like our first spat this game ended up much the same way. Maybe chill the fuck out towards us in the future?

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Post Post #6640  (isolation #448)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:50 pm

In post 6637, Elsa Jay wrote:Well then congratulations, your ignoring a vigilante who shot me calling him out and even saying "SS takes precedence".

If a vigilante shot me is literally saying "deal with them later", somethings up with you.

Pedit: more chainsaw defense. Vroom vroom wakakakakakakakaka, that's me starting it up for you, Nev.


None of this post makes sense to me. Translate please?

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Post Post #6643  (isolation #449)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:53 pm

In post 6641, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, and you, Smart, lied by not claiming I was traitor and hanging me instead of killing both TLK and McQueen.

A lie of ommison is still a lie, and your lie cost 2 town lives.


S_S did you think TLK was scum or did you believe his claim?

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Post Post #6646  (isolation #450)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:58 pm

In post 6644, Something_Smart wrote:I believed his claim. But I also figured that with all the people calling for his head he'd be lynched at some point, and I wanted to take advantage of that.


Every time I try to make sense of the lynch and it's voting I keep coming back town side on SS and scum on Elsa for motivation.

Hell, they could both be scum and this is one hell of a power play from them both...

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Post Post #6836  (isolation #451)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:31 pm

In post 6767, Elsa Jay wrote:I still don't know how the hell scum didn't also kill here, Jingle. That's part of the missing puzzle.

So that's why something doesn't add up here as well.


Scum could have decided not to kill. I've done that before when it served a purpose.

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Post Post #6843  (isolation #452)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:41 pm

In post 6780, Elsa Jay wrote:Which, I'll reiterate, he didn't out to save TLK and by extension McQueen.


I mean, it's pretty clear that you were supposed to take the brunt on the hit from S_S not hammering, not Mc.

I think you are conveniently ignoring the fact that your action is just as complicit in the death of Mc. And considering the reasoning behind S_S's actions were premeditated and has town intent where your action is passive and has a high scum equity to it, it leads me to see you as nothing but opportunistic scum.

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Post Post #6846  (isolation #453)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:46 pm

In post 6801, Jingle wrote:Drewva, what were the other options for prizes when you were in the rooms?

@Everyone else, help me fill this in, please.

Spoiler: Boonus Results
Room A:

Night 1:

DrewVa: Vig kept (used N3, unconfirmed)
BEF: Naught
Alonzo: Naught

Night 2:



Night 3:

DrewVa: Loud to SS
RCE: Loud?
SS: Neighbor to Profii

Room B:

Night 1 {Disloyal:

Creature: Disloyal?
davesaz: Disloyal kept

Night 2:

Night 3:

Room C

Night 1:

Thanos: Win
Nero: Lose
Gemerald: Lose

Night 2:

CD: Win
N&M: Lose
Penguin: Win

Night 3: {Weak/Ascetic/Mtasking/Charge transfer}

Jingle: Weak to Una
Una: Weak to EJ
Creature: Win {Weak/Ascetic/Mtasking/Charge transfer}


Iso me, I think I got nights 1 and 2 filled in mostly. I'm mobile otherwise I'd do it myself

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Post Post #6851  (isolation #454)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:50 pm

In post 5699, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 5692, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 2413, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2408, mcqueen wrote:@BEF

Not sure what that means because I’ve never been part of a BooneyToonz game before.

Is there actually a BOONus round? How do you know that DrewVa was apart of it?

I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but just to be sure.


I was in a round with DrewVa and Alonzo. DrewVa went on and on about if we are all town in the real game we should compromise so that we all get a prize. We we all did compromise and Alonzo and I were town and DrewVa was scum so DrewVa won the round and said they were choosing 1-shot Vig to be used starting N2.
Granted, the winner of the round choose their prize in their confessional thread so maybe they picked one of the other two options which were Loyal or Macho.


Group A: Drew (won), Lonzo, BEFish.
Prizes were vig, loyal, or macho.
Group B: Dave (won), AC, Karm/Creature (won)
Prizes were Disloyal, Loud and _______
Group C: Gamma (won), Nero (won), Thanos
Prizes were immune to night actions, immune to tracker, neighborhood

This is what I have so far, trying to lock in group b


Found group b, mostly

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Post Post #6852  (isolation #455)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:52 pm

Group c had an immunity to night actions. Gamma and Nero won in that round.

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Post Post #6858  (isolation #456)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:57 pm

In post 6822, Elsa Jay wrote:But a rolecop gets the role. I'm a Miller. He said I'm Traitor. So he's lying.


To be fair, you said you were the traitor before he did, so by your logic we should still lynch you. I'm glad you're being so cool about all this, since you're going to die and all.

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Post Post #6860  (isolation #457)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

In post 6839, Cheeky Dancer wrote:@Nev but considering how many people are left & who they are, that's a terribly risky move from scum...
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Not saying it's a top theory, just that it's a possibility that Elsa isn't entertaining at all. And there is also the idea that shooting a traitor turns them and brings them into group scum as opposed to swinging solo in the wind.

There was a thing out there that voided any actions but the nk right, the sticky fruit? If all actions except the nk went through, and Elsa is the traitor we wouldn't have had a kill last night.

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Post Post #6862  (isolation #458)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:05 pm

In post 6849, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 6843, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6780, Elsa Jay wrote:Which, I'll reiterate, he didn't out to save TLK and by extension McQueen.


I mean, it's pretty clear that you were supposed to take the brunt on the hit from S_S not hammering, not Mc.

I think you are conveniently ignoring the fact that your action is just as complicit in the death of Mc. And considering the reasoning behind S_S's actions were premeditated and has town intent where your action is passive and has a high scum equity to it, it leads me to see you as nothing but opportunistic scum.



You forgot to include the "Elsa is naturally a Survivor" factor in it.


Good town shouldn't have that singular survival instinct. Good town would put the good of the town as a whole above their own mortality.

You could just say that you like to live long by playing badly.

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Post Post #6863  (isolation #459)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:08 pm

In post 6856, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6852, Nev and Max wrote:Group c had an immunity to night actions. Gamma and Nero won in that round.


But not to killing actions, iirc?


All killing actions or just the night kill?

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Post Post #6865  (isolation #460)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:11 pm

In post 6859, Elsa Jay wrote:Still denying reality, huh Meh? Guess you don't want to accept we're hanging your scum partner yet.


I think being locked in that castle for so long might have stripped some of your wires if you know what I'm saying.

Is there proof that I'm ignoring? Or are you just mad in not buying into the story you're trying to sell?

Pedit- man I'm sure you're so upset your vote didn't count :cry:

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Post Post #6866  (isolation #461)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:13 pm

In post 6861, Elsa Jay wrote:That wouldn't explain the "Cheated Death" thing Boon said, bro.

You're in denial.


If you are a traitor who gets shot and joins group scum without dying that would be cheating death.

I'm getting tired of banging my head on this wall. I probably won't be discussing it anymore as my stance isn't likely to change from AtE and narratives constructed by the person it most directly benefits.

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Post Post #6868  (isolation #462)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:16 pm

In post 6864, Elsa Jay wrote:I did put the good of the town above my own. That's why I wanted to get shot by the damn vigilante.


Oh man, shucks! I'm totally with you on how much of a bummer that is.

But I don't believe that you did that. I dont believe that a mod would insert themselves in the game like that without telling us. The post (I forget who made it) talking about vote timing being much more important in games with plaurality lynches seems much more likely than a mod deciding that when reading normally they wouldn't make the unvote and then finish reading the post and Mark the revote at the end of the list time wise.

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Post Post #6870  (isolation #463)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:21 pm

In post 6867, Elsa Jay wrote:Just because it benefits me doesn't mean I'm scum. Townies like benefits too.


I'm not seeing any town benefit from having you alive still. All it's doing is making you the focus and preventing us from moving past you.

You should have died yesterday and allowed us to move on as town. You didn't, so to me you aren't town.

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Post Post #6883  (isolation #464)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:48 pm

In post 6882, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6881, RCEnigma wrote:Nero lost that night.


In post 6852, Nev and Max wrote:Group c had an immunity to night actions. Gamma and Nero won in that round.


?

-d


And I'm pretty sure I got that info from Thanos posts from the next day.

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Post Post #6886  (isolation #465)  » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:54 pm

In post 2516, Thanos wrote:I, the great thanos, too, was in a BOONus round.

Had no idea another one took place. DrewVa must then be scum with one or both of the participants in my BOONus round. And that is worrisome because they won and I lost (which is no big deal to me as the prizes werent that great imo). But the worrisome part is that the prizes were SUPER scum beneficial. (They both got to choose one of:

- no night actions work on you
- you can choose a player to setup a neighborhood with
- cant be tracked

Now we know there are three bonus rooms. But drew claimed two. If the mod did infact say there were other gameS as they claim. Then that does not mean there is one other game. That was nothing but a scum slip. I am going to assume there was at least 1 scum in each room.

VOTE: drewva

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Post Post #6945  (isolation #466)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:42 pm

In post 6942, RCEnigma wrote:Noted but it doesn't really matter which flips first.


No, but we should make sure that no one is voting elsewhere. Like if we have our votes split between S_S and Elsa, we don't want an independent spolier here.

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Post Post #6946  (isolation #467)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:44 pm

In post 6944, Elsa Jay wrote:Killing me is kinda like throwing away an expensive couch despite just paying off the fees of purchase.


Problem with that is you've lived in a college flop house since you bought it and it's a piece of shit couch now.

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Post Post #6998  (isolation #468)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:20 am

In post 6947, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 6944, Elsa Jay wrote:Killing me is kinda like throwing away an expensive couch despite just paying off the fees of purchase.

this is...a delusional analogy at best.
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n&m who do you think are EJ's partners?


~ P


Dave and Jingle are my best bets right now. I'm not sure past 5hat.

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Post Post #7004  (isolation #469)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:29 am

In post 6978, DrewVa wrote:And i’m kind of pissed at RCE vetoing gifting Creature a room now. I just hate that both of our NAs were wasted. :/


What is this in reference to?

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Post Post #7007  (isolation #470)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:35 am

In post 7000, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 6998, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6947, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 6944, Elsa Jay wrote:Killing me is kinda like throwing away an expensive couch despite just paying off the fees of purchase.

this is...a delusional analogy at best.
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n&m who do you think are EJ's partners?


~ P


Dave and Jingle are my best bets right now. I'm not sure past 5hat.

If this is because I asked jingle why he townreads dave, then I have nothing to say. lol.

~ P



It's not...

Dave has been pinging me most of the game because he appears to be posting more mechanical stuff then game solvey stuff. And then the thing at end of day yesterday too.

Jingle is a holdover read from his predecessor.

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Post Post #7011  (isolation #471)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:40 am

In post 7009, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 7005, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6971, Creature wrote:Hmm, didn't know I was a day rep

townclearing for Creature, or no?

interestingly, ej has n&m and ss as scum.
n&m has creat as tr.

Incredible.

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To be fair, I'm differing to my partners read on creature.

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Post Post #7020  (isolation #472)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:53 am

In post 7013, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 7007, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7000, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 6998, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6947, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 6944, Elsa Jay wrote:Killing me is kinda like throwing away an expensive couch despite just paying off the fees of purchase.

this is...a delusional analogy at best.
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n&m who do you think are EJ's partners?


~ P


Dave and Jingle are my best bets right now. I'm not sure past 5hat.

If this is because I asked jingle why he townreads dave, then I have nothing to say. lol.

~ P



It's not...

Dave has been pinging me most of the game because he appears to be posting more mechanical stuff then game solvey stuff. And then the thing at end of day yesterday too.

Jingle is a holdover read from his predecessor.

What thing at end of yesterday?

So nothing jingle's done has caused reevaluation...interesting.

~ P


Re: dave- after not posting for 5 days he posts that he's going lva during the end phase of the day. Then he got really defensive and accused me of accusing him of lying about his lva.

Re: jingle- the read is from before, but nothing they've done so far has moved the needle much. And honestly it's not that strong of a Sr.

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Post Post #7076  (isolation #473)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:42 pm

In post 7037, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 7018, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 7016, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7014, Jingle wrote:So... who all has/has used neighbor shots?

I know profii, but there are presumably four more out there.

Who cares and why?

I guess you have one. Great, since I have a vig shot and guess who I will use it on.
Someone who knows Bleach and knows my fave chars from them are Gin and Aizen. :twisted:

~ P



Dangit P the heck are you doing. These kills are getting out of hand.

If your legit a Vigilante, then shoot Nev when SS flips scum and help us out here.


Your hard on for us is making me feel all warm and fuzzy.

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Post Post #7084  (isolation #474)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:52 pm

In post 7045, davesaz wrote:
In post 7020, Nev and Max wrote:Then he got really defensive and accused me of accusing him of lying about his lva.

That's exactly right. Fuck anyone who ever questions any statement I make about RL.


Except that not what I did. I never accused you of lying. I said you have been playing like shit.

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Post Post #7085  (isolation #475)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:54 pm

In post 7049, Elsa Jay wrote:Also, if you really wanted to shoot Gamma or something, why even give them a warning? Seems counterproductive, right?

You can work better as a second lynch tonight since you claimed out the blue.


I mean He could be misdirecting. If he says he's gonna shoot gamma and actually shoots somewhere else scum will protect gamma and leave the other person open to being shot.

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Post Post #7088  (isolation #476)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:56 pm

In post 7050, davesaz wrote:Btw I didn’t know if the 5 day thing was even real tbh. I post when I do, and don’t when I don’t. I’m not going to post meaningless shit if there is nothing constructive to say. Y’all yammered on about super saint and sticky fruit all friggin day. When I do have something useful like results and discussion thereof you can have my take on what the logic shows.


It's pretty easy to iso you and figure that out. I did it that way...

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Post Post #7089  (isolation #477)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:57 pm

In post 5785, davesaz wrote:
In post 5776, PenguinPower wrote:Why is this important right now?

People throwing around traitor stuff, thought it would be good to think about plausibility numbers wise.

In post 6185, davesaz wrote:I'm going camping, V/LA until Sunday afternoon

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Post Post #7098  (isolation #478)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:03 pm

In post 7056, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7004, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6978, DrewVa wrote:And i’m kind of pissed at RCE vetoing gifting Creature a room now. I just hate that both of our NAs were wasted. :/


What is this in reference to?


DVa wanted to gift Creature a hood, as our “compromise” prize from last night.


I was more questioning where RCE plays into that?

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Post Post #7107  (isolation #479)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:15 pm

In post 7079, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 7078, DrewVa wrote:a slot that townreads a slot, who claimed to use a “disloyal” on you?

I don't think n&m used disloyal...??

~ P


I think there is a confusing pronoun issue here.

Elsa wants to vig us. We have a town read (because of max) on creature. Creature used a disloyal on Elsa right? I think that's what CD was saying.

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Post Post #7114  (isolation #480)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:20 pm

In post 7101, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7085, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7049, Elsa Jay wrote:Also, if you really wanted to shoot Gamma or something, why even give them a warning? Seems counterproductive, right?

You can work better as a second lynch tonight since you claimed out the blue.


I mean He could be misdirecting. If he says he's gonna shoot gamma and actually shoots somewhere else scum will protect gamma and leave the other person open to being shot.


Why would scum protect Gamma?


I should have prefaced that by saying g if gamma is scum.

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Post Post #7209  (isolation #481)  » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:49 am

No

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Post Post #7246  (isolation #482)  » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:27 pm

In post 7238, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7101, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7085, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7049, Elsa Jay wrote:Also, if you really wanted to shoot Gamma or something, why even give them a warning? Seems counterproductive, right?

You can work better as a second lynch tonight since you claimed out the blue.


I mean He could be misdirecting. If he says he's gonna shoot gamma and actually shoots somewhere else scum will protect gamma and leave the other person open to being shot.


Why would scum protect Gamma?

Yeah, N&M are you scumreading me, if not why make that comment?


I have no idea how to read you and my normal tactics either aren't working or returning conflicting conclusions.

My post was moreso about Elsa being scum with a side effect of maybe you being scum as well. Don't take it too personally, if Elsa flips town you have nothing to worry about from us here. If she flips scum though I think your equity would go up a bit for me.

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Post Post #7270  (isolation #483)  » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:49 am

In post 7248, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7246, Nev and Max wrote:maybe you being scum as well.


:lol:

You don't actually believe this.


No. Just waxing poetic.

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Post Post #7271  (isolation #484)  » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:52 am


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Post Post #7444  (isolation #485)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:03 pm

In post 7364, davesaz wrote:Nev & Max fucked up and didn't give anyone in our boonus room a prize.
Unless Boon is extending it, the room hasn't been closed.
They also tried to say that none of the prizes are helpful, which is total bullshit.

Prizes: Loud, Ascetic, 1-shot charge transfer, Multitasking (yeah wouldn't want scum to get that), 1-shot eraser (lets you remove a modifier which would be quite useful to me if someone gifted me a loyal for example)

People keep questioning my alignment, I'll get pissed off and Boon will be finding a replacement. Shut the fuck up already, I'm town and there is no possible question about it.



That was totally my fault. I saw something I didn't see before and shot max a message to see if it was an actual thing. It might not have been, but the sleeping pill I took and forgot about kicked in right around the time I started to think about it. Time got a little loopy and then I woke up and it was morning.

Silver lining, max doesn't think my idea would have worked, so there's that.

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Post Post #7445  (isolation #486)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:05 pm

In post 7367, Thanos wrote:I was in that room. Sloppy, Nev was taking some time to confirm with Max about what to do, but didn't make a move in time.

I already had a vote on me, Nev could've easily just voted to get a prize tho


Can confirm. I was going to vote in the post where I said I was checking with Max, but thought a vote would have been premature if my idea didn't work.

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Post Post #7446  (isolation #487)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:07 pm

In post 7373, davesaz wrote:I need to learn how to embrace the scumread.
Being universal town just leads to early nk.

If they’re scum it’s a good move.
But I suspect it was not knowing deadline. Room was a day late opening. Maybe we’ll get an extended bonus, or maybe boon just forgot to lock.
Gotta put the tablet down. Gnight.

Petit Elsa is definitely still in the Running and creature is too. Don’t rush to judgment let me and jingle analyze the night data if there is any. Remember true or silent, don’t leave out details that change the logic.


We didn't have access to the boonus thread for a long time. And then it was like in Vegas, no clocks anywhere to be seen.

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Post Post #7447  (isolation #488)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:26 pm

In post 7437, Elsa Jay wrote:Your Also ignoring the fact you have been tunneling me since yesterday.

Also to reiterate the 3 votes on me from yesterday: You, Smart, and Nev.

Nev is scummy, and Smart is flipped Scum now. You and Nev literally went all in with Smart and it backfired since only you 3 were on me.

Kindly explain how you and Nev aren't scum.


Scum knowing that a lynch on SS was a lynch on scum would have been incentivized to lay their votes on that wagon. What equity do we get for staying on a wagon we thought was true, especially when you haven't flipped and haven't been cleared?

You are not a town leader. You sacrificed that role when you lied and took matters into your own hands. You are not a credible person. I'm not saying we are clear either, but there is something we have that you lack this game, our word. We havent lied about anything. We might have gotten some stuff wrong, our stance on Lonzo and Ram, but we are here and trying to figure this out. You are making it more difficult, not easier. Una was right about the survivor mentality. You justify your actions by saying that you disagreed. You felt the same way we did just about different things because of your own personal bias. I get that. You should get why in a pack a lone wolf stands out.

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Post Post #7448  (isolation #489)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:30 pm

Gamma and Una finished yesterday not voting, why?

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Post Post #7458  (isolation #490)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:59 pm

In post 7457, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7384, DrewVa wrote:@everyone: did you get messages from the mod about alignments, fruit, sticky fruit, other bullshit?

btw, answering this question should also not be an excuse to prodge, I want people giving updated lists after the second flip, that preferably include more people than the black hole of Elsa Jay which is not an interesting read to me rn despite the remaining mech questions there

-d


still doing this btw

-d


We did not. I'll have a list after I talk to mala.

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Post Post #7482  (isolation #491)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:33 pm

In post 7481, PenguinPower wrote:BrightEyedFish
Nev and Max

You participating in DrewVa's thing or no?


So you're going with, we knew SS was a good lynch, and chose to stay off it as scum knowing it was 1. Going through and 2. Was on scum.

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Post Post #7484  (isolation #492)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:37 pm

I've realized that with my play style, later in the game it tends to behoove town to look at who is trying to push us for a mislynch. Scum can only have a select number of pushes they would feel confident in making without seeing much blow back. I tend to play into that a lot with my behavior.

If you wanna push me, come with the goods cause I'm holding all the face cards and this is gonna get messy for those who aren't town coming for our necks.

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Post Post #7486  (isolation #493)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:39 pm

In post 7483, PenguinPower wrote:I'm not going to give you townpoints for being off a scum lynch...no.


So as scum I just sat off my partner even though it would have bad optics? How about you think logically about this for 1 second. Do we stay off so we can have this conversation? Path of least resistance is to have been on the SS wagon. Look at how no one is even talking about scum being on it.

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Post Post #7491  (isolation #494)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:42 pm

In post 7488, PenguinPower wrote:I mean you are using it to push why you are town soooo....there's a reason.

I think it's odd you are focusing on that specific fact and not asking why I have you marked as scum.


It doesn't matter why you have me as scum, because either you have a result that says I am and you're lying, or whatever you think you picked up on is incorrect.

We cant be scum because we aren't scum.

Are you wanting to try and make this into a 1v1 situation?

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Post Post #7495  (isolation #495)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:48 pm

In post 7493, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7491, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7488, PenguinPower wrote:I mean you are using it to push why you are town soooo....there's a reason.

I think it's odd you are focusing on that specific fact and not asking why I have you marked as scum.


It doesn't matter why you have me as scum, because either you have a result that says I am and you're lying, or whatever you think you picked up on is incorrect.

We cant be scum because we aren't scum.

Are you wanting to try and make this into a 1v1 situation?


Not really - you seem to be the one doing that.


I'm not the one who asked you to ask me about my read on you.

You're the one who has intimated that you have some damning info, so by all means Sir...

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Post Post #7497  (isolation #496)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:50 pm

In post 7494, PenguinPower wrote:Not even sure why you inserted yourself into the convo between me and Jingle.


Are you serious right now? You list the only 2 guys on the Elsa wagon as the scum from a list.

I have an opinion that directly contradicts yours, backed by the knowledge of my alignment. Am I not supposed to disagree with you master?

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Post Post #7499  (isolation #497)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:51 pm

In post 7496, PenguinPower wrote:I haven't intimated anything.

Go do some yoga and calm down.


Ahh yes, the old say some wild shit and then act like the guy responding is crazy act. I love this gaslighting

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Post Post #7502  (isolation #498)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:58 pm

In post 7501, Jingle wrote:
In post 7499, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7496, PenguinPower wrote:I haven't intimated anything.

Go do some yoga and calm down.


Ahh yes, the old say some wild shit and then act like the guy responding is crazy act. I love this gaslighting


It's not gaslighting.

I gave him a list, he gave two suspects, and you jumped to a conclusion.

More relevant to actually solving the game, who do you think is scum out of that list?


Asking why I haven't questioned his read, and then telling me to go do some yoga when I implore him to put whatever info he's claiming to have is what I'm claiming is gaslighting.

As far as your list:

Profii and Gamma ping me the hardest. Nero is close behind. I think mala is reading thanos as scummy, and with the way Lamees talks to me/about me I can see that.

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Post Post #7520  (isolation #499)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:18 pm

In post 7519, Thanos wrote:@Nev/Max let us know when mala is feeling healthy so we can cast vote.



I looked back, that was an old read, we just dont have many posts in our confessional so it felt more relevant.

You do what you need to do, Ive been fine playing on my own with her flitting in and out when she can.

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Post Post #7522  (isolation #500)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:23 pm

In post 7371, Thanos wrote:Stalling from winning the prize? One reason I can think of is that they didn't want Davesaz to get the prize, since Dave said in the thread it would help scumhunt.

Which also makes me feel that if Dave was town and N&M were scum, wouldn't they have NK'd Dave instead? Or is that too obvious?

In any case I think their minigame behavior was NAI


If you were town you could have hammered on yourself to make sure we got the prizes.

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Post Post #7523  (isolation #501)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:24 pm

I missed the friendly neighbor part, and saw where it was confirmed.

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Post Post #7526  (isolation #502)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:27 pm

xtom doesnt have a reason to lie about that unless you guys are both scum, and I dont see that happening.

I looked at who repeats in the day reps of the last 2 days, where i think scum would be more likely to interject them, and PP is the only repeat.

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Post Post #7665  (isolation #503)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:25 pm

In post 7529, Thanos wrote:
In post 7526, Nev and Max wrote:xtom doesnt have a reason to lie about that unless you guys are both scum, and I dont see that happening.

I looked at who repeats in the day reps of the last 2 days, where i think scum would be more likely to interject them, and PP is the only repeat.


Can scum put a town player on?


Are you asking me if scum can pick a nonteammate to put up there? No idea. If they could do that why wouldnt they have just picked the same nonscum person over and over again to set up wifom?

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Post Post #7670  (isolation #504)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:28 pm

In post 7547, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7543, Jingle wrote:Hot take: independent of reads Xtox is the best lynch for today.


Disagree. He was on Flippy wagon. Our vote is currently on N & M. I didn’t like how they kept trying to postpone the EOD, in order to stop scum!SS lynch.

I will fight you on Xtoxm.


How did we try to stop the end of day?

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Post Post #7678  (isolation #505)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:44 pm

In post 7579, DrewVa wrote:>Nev and Max to... what do I want this slot to do. idk, "if you were scum with something smart, would you try to case alonzo in a boonus room to direct night actions there because you were killing him?" idk, it's bothering me a little that S_S directed us to Elsa when that would be a black hole, and your play in the boonus room seems a little closer to that to me now. just something bothering me. I guess a related question here is why did it feel like you were pushing alonzo more in the boonus room than you were in thread?


Id like to know what we are doing here too. I feel like I am outside my depth and cant find my way back. I love Max, but we just havent clicked here and we are almost never on at the same time. I am totally at fault here on this because I havent been putting my thoughts down in the confessional as much as I have been here. Like at this point I just have more of a vague idea of where I should be pushing, but I dont know how to make those pushes effective.

As far as Lonzo, I started to make a push on him later in the day before he was killed. I felt like he was pushing me without actually attepmting to engage with me when I was with him. This was similar to something he had done as scum in a game with town me recently. During the night phase I thought that there was a better chance for me to be able to put words to that inkling with a smaller audience who we had hoped would hear us.

That didnt work out so well. Since then a lot of personal shit on both sides have been going down and we lack a certain cohesion. I know personally i need almost a sounding board. When I hydra with my brother we are constantly talking about the game, and we flesh our ideas and hunting through each other. When I play alone I try to find someone I am connecting with post wise and form something there. I havent had a chance to do that this game. I wish Lonzo had actually tried.

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Post Post #7875  (isolation #506)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:30 pm

In post 7842, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7833, DrewVa wrote:ftr Nancy wants to do N&M today

I just don't think elsa is mechanically cleared yet

-d


N & M and BEF are probably the best lynches. I prefer N & M. They were doing everything possible to stop scum!SS wagon from going through and BEF was insistent on Elsa over SS.


Again with this bullshit. I'd hoped you'd explain that line about how we were trying to hold up the day end, a d you passed on answering. So how were we trying to stop the wagon from going through?

Also, you guys should stop trying to mislynch the still charged doc.

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Post Post #7877  (isolation #507)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:33 pm

In post 7876, Elsa Jay wrote:A doctor this late, particularly 1 that wouldn't ever think of healing me when I was attacked?

#PressXtoDoubt


Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit? I needed scum to leave me alone at night so I could have freedom to protect. We haven't used our charge yet.

My idea last night was to get a 2nd charge and see if boon would let us use multitasking to use 2 protects. Then the sleeping pill I forgot I took kicked in.

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Post Post #7899  (isolation #508)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:35 pm

In post 7883, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7877, Nev and Max wrote:Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?


You haven't been.


Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much. Maybe playing like shit? I dunno. I haven't been playing particularly well this game.

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Post Post #7901  (isolation #509)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:36 pm

In post 7887, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7883, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7877, Nev and Max wrote:Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?


You haven't been.


They certainly did in fact, “give a shit” about stopping scum!SS lynch.


3rd time with this shit. What are you even on about you muppet?

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Post Post #7903  (isolation #510)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:38 pm

In post 7900, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7899, Nev and Max wrote:Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much.


Really?

Because I can point to an example of you caring quite a bit about 24 hours ago.


I don't care about your read on me. It's wrong. You are the one who tried to make it a thing and then when I didn't take the bait ymthe way you wanted me to you told me to calm down.

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Post Post #7906  (isolation #511)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:41 pm

Ok.

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Post Post #7910  (isolation #512)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:45 pm

In post 7907, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7899, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7883, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7877, Nev and Max wrote:Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?


You haven't been.


Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much. Maybe playing like shit? I dunno. I haven't been playing particularly well this game.


I dislike that you claim to have gotten a doc charge N2 and still haven’t used it on anyone.

FYI, holding on to a protective power, is what got me outed as scum in Heroes Wanted. Why? Because if you’re town, you never how long you’re going to live in a game, so you use your PR asap, especially if it’s a protective. Ours was a 1-shot vig and we had no idea to shoot but if we had cop or doc, we would have 100% used it the very night we got it.


We didn't get a charge. We are the doctor. We started with 1 charge. We couldnt guess we'll enough until now where the kill was going to go. We were going to be on Drew last night, but again sleeping pill and all.

Trying to guess the save when there are still 15+ is bad odds. We were waiting til we could even them up a bit, which would probably have been tonight.

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Post Post #7911  (isolation #513)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:46 pm

In post 7908, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7906, Nev and Max wrote:Ok.


Bowing out because you can't refute.

Nice.


No. I just don't have enough in me to try and make you see the errors of your ways. You've made up your mind and I'm not banging my head against a wall tonight. Lynch me and see. Don't care

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Post Post #7913  (isolation #514)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:50 pm

In post 7912, PenguinPower wrote:Oh...you don't care if you're scum read now.

I get it.


I never did. Still don't. And it's not like you're going to give a fuck when we flip green, so why sit here and ruin my night going back and forth with you when there is literally nothing I could say or do to change your mind? You have confbiased me into Oblivion man. So flip me. Release me from this game.

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Post Post #7921  (isolation #515)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:23 pm

In post 7916, DrewVa wrote:Bad vibes

N&M -- the situation we have then is:
-A missing scum nightkill
-A claimed town commuter that didn't commute the night of that missing nightkill
-A claimed town doctor that didn't protect the night of that missing nightkill

This means we have, de facto, three town protective claims. That's on top of whatever the fuck elsa is, which I guess at this point would seem to have to be the recipient of SS's jailkeep when we vigged him.

Is that impossible in a setup this large? No. Does it have my attention? Yes.

So what do you think of Jingle's claim then, I guess?

-d


He claimed commuter. I don't have anything the would refute that. I also don't have anything that can confirm that. I'm not one for set up spec before mass claims.

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Post Post #7922  (isolation #516)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:24 pm

In post 7917, DrewVa wrote:Also, if you were not going to use your shot for multiple nights, wouldn't that maybe incentivize you to crumb your role in some meaningful way?

-d


I don't really crumb. Mala might have said something, I mean she talks about her job a lot.

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Post Post #8069  (isolation #517)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:26 am

In post 8062, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8061, Creature wrote:Are Nev and Fish our only scum candidates?


If I have correctly understood the flow of the game today, the people who most players want to lynch today are myself, N&M, EJ and Jingle.


That's an interesting answer to another question. Could we get an answer to the question that was asked?

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Post Post #8094  (isolation #518)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:00 pm

In post 8075, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8059, Elsa Jay wrote:Still wondering who we're lynching between Nev or Fishy. My vote is still on Nev.


They look bad both to opposing scum!SS wagon and CD kill. It’s pretty clear by now, that scum is targeting Flippy wagon.

Also, why do they not use their N2 1-shot doc yet? We had vig, holstering N2, made sense with a vig but neither with a doc or cop.

I’m still wondering about no N3 NK and it seems to me that the intended NK was likely protected, if by town jailkeep, then that would explain both that and our vigshot on you failing.

And N & M aren’t claiming to have used it on N3, which makes their doc claim, less believable.



You sure do flap your gums a lot. We decided to hold onto our 1 shot because at the time we didn't feel confident in guessing where scum was going to kill. Hell, as of right now there are what 16 of us alive? We have a 1 in 195 chance of picking the correct target.

I'll admit that our chances are better since we have a number of PRs that have already claimed, but again our shot would have been wasted last night because we were going to be on Drew, who didn't die.

Did cheeky claim or did scum shoot in the dark?

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Post Post #8096  (isolation #519)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:13 pm

Well Elsa could have easily engaged in scum theater with SS, knowing that if one went down the other could be pushed clear pretty easily.

BEF has no interest in actually finding scum, he is more concerned with which lynch might be able to go through today. Add that to his push to revisit the day reps for scum suspects.

I really liked when I think Una asked BEF who he was scum reading and BEF came back with a list of people others have expressed interest in lynching. Then the whole thing about possibly needing to reevaluate RCE after a slight scum read is icky. Like if we tred Drew while they were tring us, our tr shouldn't be conditional upon their tr of us. That's how BEF is coming off right now.

Jingle I think is town, or at least is pushing in ways I don't see scum pushing, unless they were trying to be a town leader. I don't get that sense here. I see someone who didn't slot through all the bullshit previous and has some fresh eyes.

And the PoE has to be wrong and you'll all have to reevaluate when I flip green. Just saying.

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Post Post #8097  (isolation #520)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:15 pm

Hey while I'm answering a question for you, kind if you answer one for me?

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Post Post #8098  (isolation #521)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:21 pm

I could also mention that since we still have a shot it would be silly to not force scum to kill us. I mean you guys are putting a Miller, a commuter and I don't know what bef is ahead of a claimed doc. People who know me should know my fake would be a lot better than this.

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Post Post #8100  (isolation #522)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:22 pm

In post 8099, Elsa Jay wrote:Again with "Elsa could do scum theatre". Trust me, I know I'm good at acting, but me and Smart don't have any connection because of our vastly different playstyles. Again, remember he specifically REQUESTED I vote second-to-last after him so he could kill me.

If I wanted scum theatre I would have done it with Nancy Drew for "claiming to shoot me". I wouldn't have claimed traitor/Miller, because frankly those who know me know I'm telling the relative truth on that with how much stuff I spew out my mouth.

I'm not scum, mister Nev. Your last partner tried to lynch me as well. Didn't work out for him either.


If you guys are both scum then you never would have been in danger because you both knew neither of you would be voting and that a townie would definitely be killed.

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Post Post #8101  (isolation #523)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:23 pm

You come out hard against SS and then everyone bends overs and lubes themselves up for you. It's what happened today.

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Post Post #8102  (isolation #524)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:24 pm

And it explains away why you did what you did when you lied about voting. And then lied about the mod not allowing you to do something. It ties up a lot of little strings that could easily unravel your entire story

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Post Post #8104  (isolation #525)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:26 pm

Drew when you get back you owe me an answer to a question. I'm putting this here separately because you haven't responded to other posts I've made directed at you. You dodging me bro?

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Post Post #8108  (isolation #526)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:34 pm

In post 8106, Elsa Jay wrote:Well he fucking claimed I was a traitor. Clearly if I WAS a traitor, I wouldn't know jackshit about whatever they say in daychat if they have it. And multiple circumstantial clears still point to me being town.

I lied because I like living and Smart made it so damn obvious he was unvoting so I'd die. I even expected the Mod to unravel the lie, but he let me keep it for fun. Did you not see him list all of his "crumbs"? Anyone with a brain wouldnt hammer there.

Pedit: 6 posts in a row for defense, ehh? You got really ready for your mislynch speech you had planned and saved to say, huh?


No kill on night 3 could have brought you in.

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Post Post #8110  (isolation #527)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:41 pm

In post 8109, Elsa Jay wrote:... But he already claimed I was a traitor in a Bonus room, which someone attested too. Why would he recruit me AFTER he told someone I was a traitor?


Because that's the point of your role sometimes. To be recruited. You could say the same thing about why you claimed to be the traitor. It sends a message to your team and allows you to toss it away when confronted by town. They target you for a nk and you are brought into the fold.

It's fucking cheeky, and I would have a lot of respect for you guys for trying to pull it off. I just think it was too cleaver for its own good.

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Post Post #8112  (isolation #528)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:44 pm

In post 8111, DrewVa wrote:Sorry I was playing some o/w

what's the q bae?

-d


You've said a few times now that we made an attempt to stall the lynch on SS. I wanted to know what you were basing that opinion off of. For us either way was a good lynch and I don't remember speaking against the SS lynch at all.

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Post Post #8115  (isolation #529)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:06 pm

Listen. Of the three asked you are number 2 on my list. I actually see scum more in BEF with the way hes acting. Then I think we are missing something. Or at least its not as clear.

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Post Post #8117  (isolation #530)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:24 pm

I didnt say couldnt, (did I?) i think i said wouldnt.

Why would he as scum come in when no one was really saying anything about him and start pushing in ways that are getting people to talk about him? Its counter intuitive.

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Post Post #8119  (isolation #531)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:30 pm

In post 8116, Nero Cain wrote:hey fish, talk about how Jingle couldn't push the way he is as scum.

In post 8117, Nev and Max wrote:I didnt say couldnt, (did I?) i think i said wouldnt.

Why would he as scum come in when no one was really saying anything about him and start pushing in ways that are getting people to talk about him? Its counter intuitive.

In post 8118, Nero Cain wrote:ppl had been talking about BEF b4 Jingle replaced in unless I'm mixing up games.


You ask why I think something about jingle. I answer. You reply with something about BEF...

Yes people have been scum reading BEF, i said Jingle was flying under radars and doesnt make sense for scum!jingle to put a target on his own back.

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Post Post #8170  (isolation #532)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:33 pm

In post 8168, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8166, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 8164, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7910, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7907, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7899, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 7883, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 7877, Nev and Max wrote:Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?


You haven't been.


Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much. Maybe playing like shit? I dunno. I haven't been playing particularly well this game.


I dislike that you claim to have gotten a doc charge N2 and still haven’t used it on anyone.

FYI, holding on to a protective power, is what got me outed as scum in Heroes Wanted. Why? Because if you’re town, you never how long you’re going to live in a game, so you use your PR asap, especially if it’s a protective. Ours was a 1-shot vig and we had no idea to shoot but if we had cop or doc, we would have 100% used it the very night we got it.


We didn't get a charge. We are the doctor. We started with 1 charge. We couldnt guess we'll enough until now where the kill was going to go. We were going to be on Drew last night, but again sleeping pill and all.

Trying to guess the save when there are still 15+ is bad odds. We were waiting til we could even them up a bit, which would probably have been tonight.

you don't need a good reason to holster when you only have 1-shot
protectives in particular are much more powerful when numbers are lower, and charges are hard to come by in this game


You’re telling me, you honestly believe he fell asleep and therefore couldn’t doc us in 48 freaking hours?


Your inability to pull your head out of your own ass is amazing. Especially coming from someone who recently bemoaned their ability to be heard by a group when making pushes. Maybe no on listens to you because you come up with confbiased shit that no one likes.

Did you see me ask your partner a question and had him refer me back to you? Do you wish to answer my question since you are the pertinent person? Or are you just going to keep on keeping on?

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Post Post #8172  (isolation #533)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:00 pm

In post 8171, davesaz wrote:
In post 8112, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8111, DrewVa wrote:Sorry I was playing some o/w

what's the q bae?

-d


You've said a few times now that we made an attempt to stall the lynch on SS. I wanted to know what you were basing that opinion off of. For us either way was a good lynch and I don't remember speaking against the SS lynch at all.

I have an opinion on this question but I'll hold off a bit.


That's fine, you can put your 2 cents in as soon as Nancy stops ducking me.

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Post Post #8174  (isolation #534)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:16 pm

In post 8153, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8149, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 8145, PenguinPower wrote:Guess we just lynch N&M then.

not interested.
macho modifiers exist for a reason and the only other claimed protective is a bunyip (commuter isnt relevant in this context)
if someone else claims protective (dead or alive) i'll consider it


Wasn't really asking you...


You realize this is a social game that town and scum need to play together during to try and help their team win, right?

You've done that twice now where you've admonished someone for daring speak to you while you're speaking to others. And not in a someone else answered a question before the intended person answer it kinda way, which I understand.

You special? Are the untermenschen not supposed to make eye contact much less speak to you?

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Post Post #8240  (isolation #535)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:35 am

In post 8188, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?


I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)

I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.

-d


This while post is fucking bullshit. First of all Nancy is posting, but she can't respond personally to the post that you already told me you didn't want to speak for her on. I get that you spoke to her, but if it's not your read then I don't think you should be the one posting the defense.

Nancy throws shade at us in a lot of posts and when called on it she sends out her peon to make the slight retraction.

Nancy, if you think we are scum case us. Shade, feelings and tone policing isnt substative. Explain why are actions point to a scum mentality. I can't change your mind on how you read my posts. I can argue reasoning behind things info and say though.

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Post Post #8250  (isolation #536)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:40 am

In post 8241, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8240, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8188, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?


I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)

I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.

-d


This while post is fucking bullshit. First of all Nancy is posting, but she can't respond personally to the post that you already told me you didn't want to speak for her on. I get that you spoke to her, but if it's not your read then I don't think you should be the one posting the defense.

Nancy throws shade at us in a lot of posts and when called on it she sends out her peon to make the slight retraction.

Nancy, if you think we are scum case us. Shade, feelings and tone policing isnt substative. Explain why are actions point to a scum mentality. I can't change your mind on how you read my posts. I can argue reasoning behind things info and say though.


What part of we’re a hydra aren’t you comprehending?


The part where your partner referred me to you. I call you out directly in multiple posts. Other people call you out. You prance your partner out with your hand up his ass like a puppet while offering a slight walk back from what you've said.

Nancy. This look isn't good on you, it's trite trash to be honest. Don't whine about not being listened to if one of your strategies is to ignore and diminish others.

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Post Post #8259  (isolation #537)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:41 pm

In post 8258, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8256, DrewVa wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 8250, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8241, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8240, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8188, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?


I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)

I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.

-d


This while post is fucking bullshit. First of all Nancy is posting, but she can't respond personally to the post that you already told me you didn't want to speak for her on. I get that you spoke to her, but if it's not your read then I don't think you should be the one posting the defense.

Nancy throws shade at us in a lot of posts and when called on it she sends out her peon to make the slight retraction.

Nancy, if you think we are scum case us. Shade, feelings and tone policing isnt substative. Explain why are actions point to a scum mentality. I can't change your mind on how you read my posts. I can argue reasoning behind things info and say though.


What part of we’re a hydra aren’t you comprehending?


The part where your partner referred me to you. I call you out directly in multiple posts. Other people call you out. You prance your partner out with your hand up his ass like a puppet while offering a slight walk back from what you've said.

Nancy. This look isn't good on you, it's trite trash to be honest. Don't whine about not being listened to if one of your strategies is to ignore and diminish others.



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Oh and FF, if you seriously think I’m being in anyway sketchy here, have your lovely hydra partner address me instead. I’m more than willing to talk to Max. See, two can play this stupid game. :roll:


Im confused by this. Like I never said I wouldnt talk to you or your partner, so I dont know why you feel it necessary to say youll only speak to Max. Ive wanted to talk to you. You are the one dancing around the issue and not addressing it headon.

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Post Post #8308  (isolation #538)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:30 pm

In post 8293, Jingle wrote:
In post 8287, DrewVa wrote:There isn’t any need to out all the tprs rn.


Oh, you mean like the two already claimed pseudocops? Or the inventor? Or you? And we've already flipped a scum blocking role, and know about the existence of what is functionally a scum rolestopper, so blocking specific people is an unlikely threat. They have one nightkill, so they can't possibly kill every player that's actively threatening to them, and all of the unclaimed players you're worrying about outing are in the PoE (despite how much you think I should sheep Nancy's blank reads.)


Don't forget that we have our protect and are willing to let that go where people feel it helps us best.

Force scum to kill us or fuck with the kill again.

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Post Post #8311  (isolation #539)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:41 pm

In post 8309, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8308, Nev and Max wrote:Don't forget that we have our protect and are willing to let that go where people feel it helps us best.

Force scum to kill us or fuck with the kill again.


Except if Creature is town then scum may have already decided he was an optimal kill tonight so leashing you would do us absolutely 0 good and tell us nothing if he ends up being the NK

So us holding out because leashing you is some big deal seems like a load of garbage

No worthwhile crumbs, nonsensical night actions, and AtE without solving in response to being pushed for a weak claim does not leave me with any reason to think you are town. You're acting like you're a good nightkill right now for scum when you're not, which reflects the desire you seem to have to be townread for your claim alone which is pretty scum indicative imo

-d


I dont crumb, disagree about nonsensical night actions, and scum can choose to kill a claimed doc, or outguess us at this point. Also, a mass claim right now would force scum to prioritize their kills based on who can do the most damage to them.

If we can figure out who has the best chance of finding scum I will be on that person making sure they can do their job. That's my job here, to make sure the right person doesn't die before they do their part. Keep trying to kill the doc, it will look great for you when I flip green.

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Post Post #8312  (isolation #540)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:45 pm

And scum knows I'm town and that I wouldn't lie about my claim. Do you think scum would prioritize a doc over the other roles?

If we go to it being between a certain number of the claimed roles they have to guess which in those we'd be on. Do they risk picking the same person or do they kill outside the group? Do they kill us so that there isn't a question anymore? With charges being passed around there is a chance someone could give us one if they trusted us.

Mislynching us here only serves to promote a scum agenda by taking a protective off the board.

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Post Post #8314  (isolation #541)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:50 pm

In post 8313, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:Also, a mass claim right now would force scum to prioritize their kills based on who can do the most damage to them.


Yeah, that's my point. Why do you want to make it easy for the scum to figure out where their kills can do the most damage?

In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:If we can figure out who has the best chance of finding scum I will be on that person making sure they can do their job.


why are you asking to be leashed if, from your point of view, one of the players most capable of catching scum is Creature, who you cannot protect? (assuming of course you think Creature is town, which is not universal consensus)

-d


Scum already has a number of claimed PRs to choose from, they can't kill all of them tonight can they? Last I checked, minus a vig shot or something, they can only Target one person for a kill.

I can't do anything about creature regardless. But of all the claims, you think his is the most valuable?

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Post Post #8315  (isolation #542)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:52 pm

I'd argue that Dave, rce and creature are all on the same level.

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Post Post #8316  (isolation #543)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:54 pm

In post 8254, Xtoxm wrote:Thanos - friendly neighbor
Jingle - commuter
Profii - inventor
Davesaz - invest
UnaBombah - named townie
Elsa Jay - miller
Gamma Emerald - ?
Xtoxm - ?
DrewVa - activate
BrightEyedFish - ?
Creature - invest
Nev and Max - doc
PenguinPower - ?
RCEnigma - bunyip
Nero Cain - ?


I keep forgetting what page this is on, so I'm reposting it for easier finding.

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Post Post #8318  (isolation #544)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:04 pm

In post 8317, DrewVa wrote:btw is there like some link somewhere that actually explains objectively wtf a bunyip is

-d


Depends on how he did it this game, the other game I saw it in was like this:

They check is someone is vanilla or not. If they come back vanilla they are bp that night.

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Post Post #8320  (isolation #545)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:04 pm

The person investigated becomes BP not the bunyip.

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Post Post #8321  (isolation #546)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:07 pm

I'm not going through his iso to find this out, but did rce ever say who he targeted?

It could have some hand in the no kill...

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Post Post #8325  (isolation #547)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:15 pm

In post 8324, Formerfish wrote:I remember una now, that's where the argument about is a named townie a vanilla role came up.


I was doing so well.

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Post Post #8329  (isolation #548)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:11 pm

In post 8328, Formerfish wrote:
In post 8327, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6621, Nev and Max wrote:Um what

-M


btw is Mala still playing even?

Or has she done some unsigned posts since January?

-d


Sorta, she was MIA for a bit. If she posts she generally signs them.



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Post Post #8333  (isolation #549)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:49 pm

In post 8332, Jingle wrote:DVA is right that you're not announcing your target tonight regardless of what happens, though, FF.


I realized a direct handcuff would be bad. That's why I amended it to say within a certain group.

The whole point is to make scum outguess me. If we limit me to say Dave/rce/one more? We might be able to direct the kill away from areas that would be bad for us to lose. Even if we don't stop a kill from going through, we can make sure someone specific doesn't die.

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Post Post #8335  (isolation #550)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:02 pm

In post 8334, Nero Cain wrote:Nev, remind me who you want dead?


At this point I would be fine with either BEF or Elsa. After that I'd be looking at drew or PP at this point. I think there might be one scum in each set.

Drew and PP have just had this hard on for us pretty much all game. I haven't seen much of a reassess based on any new shit, and they are taking dead townies at their pushes when those townies wouldn't have had any better idea of the game state, worse you could say because they died while we lived and continued to gain new insight. The level of non-optimal play these two are exhibiting is crazy considering how talented the 3 people involved are. As people with as much experience as they have they aren't playing to it, imo.

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Post Post #8342  (isolation #551)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:54 pm

Do we know if it died with TLK?

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Post Post #8356  (isolation #552)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:25 am

In post 8351, DrewVa wrote:altho I don't want to go full tinfoil here


Yes, we'd hate for you to have to stray from the box youve carefully been creating...

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Post Post #8362  (isolation #553)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:40 am

In post 8359, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8358, Jingle wrote:Cool, so one of BEF and profi is scum.


Do you think scum!vendor would send town!profii a fruit?


No fucking way on day 1. Scum vendor would pass that off to each other as long as possible.

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Post Post #8365  (isolation #554)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:41 am

In post 8362, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8359, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8358, Jingle wrote:Cool, so one of BEF and profi is scum.


Do you think scum!vendor would send town!profii a fruit?


No fucking way on day 1. Scum vendor would pass that off to each other as long as possible.


I mean, iirc, the fruit makes you ascetic to everything but nks when you get it right? No way scum gives that up.

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Post Post #8370  (isolation #555)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:45 am

In post 8366, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8362, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8359, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8358, Jingle wrote:Cool, so one of BEF and profi is scum.


Do you think scum!vendor would send town!profii a fruit?


No fucking way on day 1. Scum vendor would pass that off to each other as long as possible.


Also it could be possible that scum!profii meant to send the fruit to a scum partner but that partner was redirected to TLK.


Same person he "tried" to send loyal to...

As inventor wasnt there 3 things profii could send, or was that a fever dream of mine?

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Post Post #8374  (isolation #556)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:48 am

In post 8373, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8369, DrewVa wrote:so BEF

Not only are you a fruity fish

You are a sticky fruity fish?

-d


A Sticky-icky fruity fishy.


I think I smoked some of that on my west coast trip.

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Post Post #8379  (isolation #557)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:50 am

In post 8378, RCEnigma wrote:Profii wouldn't need to be redirector to send the fruit he already had to tlk.


But why send it to tlk at all as scum?

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Post Post #8386  (isolation #558)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:55 am

It just seems like a silly thing for them to lose like that. If PP were scum it would explain his entrance with tlk that day. The whole I sent you something would make more sense in both ways. 1 if PP had something to do with it it would be literal. 2 if PP was in on it he could have just been lying about having tried to send something to tlk and that was just a way to get that info out in the open.

I still dont get why scum would give that up if they could just pass it between themselves though.

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Post Post #8392  (isolation #559)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:58 am

In post 8389, RCEnigma wrote:Only if PP is scum with either drewva or Profii, Nev.


With the way they have almost been conducting a coordinated assault on our slot i could easily see PP being scum with Drew.

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Post Post #8396  (isolation #560)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:00 am

In post 8391, Jingle wrote:Elsa is either traitor gifted ascetic N1 or town.


When did elsa claim traitor? Was it day 1? If scum thought it was true and then won a boonus round with ascetic in it, elsa would be a great choice to be gifted something that would essentially conceal them.

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Post Post #8401  (isolation #561)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:02 am

In post 8397, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 8392, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8389, RCEnigma wrote:Only if PP is scum with either drewva or Profii, Nev.


With the way they have almost been conducting a coordinated assault on our slot i could easily see PP being scum with Drew.


Your play today put you on the table for a Lynch fmpov as well so eh.


And look what happens when people actually fucking acknowledge me in real time and interact with me. Crazy how that shit happens.

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Post Post #8406  (isolation #562)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:06 am

In post 8404, Jingle wrote:No one talk to N&M. It makes them salty, which is funny as hell FMPOV.


I just get frustrated because I dont understand the game sometimes and I feel like there is still a level of players above me who just talk in this other language and I get lost. Then when I see something and start pushing it I get shoved to the kiddy table while the adults are talking. So I lash out.

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Post Post #8409  (isolation #563)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07 am

In post 8405, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 8401, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8397, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 8392, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8389, RCEnigma wrote:Only if PP is scum with either drewva or Profii, Nev.


With the way they have almost been conducting a coordinated assault on our slot i could easily see PP being scum with Drew.


Your play today put you on the table for a Lynch fmpov as well so eh.


And look what happens when people actually fucking acknowledge me in real time and interact with me. Crazy how that shit happens.


I don't know you, or how you play. Your defensive rants, abrasive nature, and insulting tone are all scummy to me but I know people play that way as town *cough* Nero.


Do a quick iso dive into me then. This is how I play as town. Scum is very different. I am much more calculated as scum. Im freer as town.

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Post Post #8418  (isolation #564)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:16 am

In post 8414, DrewVa wrote:Doesn't even matter today given we can't also be a redirector

Jingle can argue we can be a scum activator if he wants tomorrow but there is no way our flip resolves stickygate; at this point only a profii/bef flip does that

-d


Seems like you gave up on us pretty easy today. Did the windsock change direction and you see an easier mislynch somewhere else now?

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Post Post #8422  (isolation #565)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:18 am

In post 8416, Thanos wrote:Nev, if you were a doctor, why would you have to speak to Max about taking the Boonus prize? It seems really obvious that winning the +1 is a good thing for a doc.


I had a hair brained idea about picking up the extra shot and taking multitasking.

I mentioned it to Max in our confessional and then passed out. Max replied thinking it wouldnt work anyways, but it was already too late.

It was a bad play, but in my defense we were locked out of that room for awhile, I had the flu, and time wasnt making as much sense as it usually does for most people.

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Post Post #8425  (isolation #566)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:21 am

In post 8423, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8418, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8414, DrewVa wrote:Doesn't even matter today given we can't also be a redirector

Jingle can argue we can be a scum activator if he wants tomorrow but there is no way our flip resolves stickygate; at this point only a profii/bef flip does that

-d


Seems like you gave up on us pretty easy today. Did the windsock change direction and you see an easier mislynch somewhere else now?


You believe profii is a mislynch?

-d


I dont know, but you seemed pretty sure that we were a solid lynch. So i guess what im saying is what changed that made profii higher priority to you than us?

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Post Post #8428  (isolation #567)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:23 am

In post 8427, Thanos wrote:
In post 8422, Nev and Max wrote:I mentioned it to Max in our confessional and then passed out. Max replied thinking it wouldnt work anyways, but it was already too late.

Why didn't Max think it would work?


She didnt think Boon would allow us to use the same ability twice. That was the ultimate endgame i had in mind, that with that combo we could use 2 protects in 1 night.

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Post Post #8434  (isolation #568)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:27 am

In post 8431, Thanos wrote:
In post 8428, Nev and Max wrote:She didnt think Boon would allow us to use the same ability twice. That was the ultimate endgame i had in mind, that with that combo we could use 2 protects in 1 night.

See, why I'm finding this hard to believe is, even without multitasking the extra charge in itself is really useful since you get to protect someone another day.


Trust me I know. When I woke up in a pool of drool and saw the day started I was upset with myself. I would like to point out that we arent the only ones who could have ended that mini game. The 3rd could have voted themselves to ensure that town got the prizes...

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Post Post #8439  (isolation #569)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:32 am

In post 8437, Thanos wrote:
In post 8434, Nev and Max wrote:The 3rd could have voted themselves to ensure that town got the prizes...

I'm the third, and I would've if Dave had asserted it was important - I had you in my scumreads, and I'm not finding your explanation now redeeming.


The fact that I couldnt even remember it was you in there with us should show what kind of physical state I was in at the time...

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Post Post #8441  (isolation #570)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:34 am

In post 8438, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8431, Thanos wrote:
In post 8428, Nev and Max wrote:She didnt think Boon would allow us to use the same ability twice. That was the ultimate endgame i had in mind, that with that combo we could use 2 protects in 1 night.

See, why I'm finding this hard to believe is, even without multitasking the extra charge in itself is really useful since you get to protect someone another day.


+1.

There is no need to ask your hydra partner for permission to win the boonus round. You might want to discuss which prize you take but that should not inhibit the actual winning of the round or the choice to do so.

-d


Listen. I am going to flip town when I die. That is a goddamn fact that you either already know and are psuhing this because... i dunno fuck it, or you are going to find it out when I die.

So lets imagine a world where what I am saying is true. As scum why do I not win that and take multitasking for my own fucking use without saying shit about what I did?

This is the world where we are town. Wrap your heads around my shitty play. Cause thats all it is. I cant prove anything to you guys. It just is shitty play.

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Post Post #8444  (isolation #571)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:38 am

Find my scum motivation in sitting on elsa instead of flipping our vote to SS while youre at it.

It doesnt make sense as calculated scum play. Bad town play makes a lot more sense.

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Post Post #8445  (isolation #572)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:39 am

In post 8443, Thanos wrote:
In post 8441, Nev and Max wrote:So lets imagine a world where what I am saying is true. As scum why do I not win that and take multitasking for my own fucking use without saying shit about what I did?

I'm also inclined to agree with this: I was struggling to find scum motivation in what they did apart from WIFOM, but the benefits of WIFOMing in this situation are nowhere near the benefits they could reap by simply taking the prize.


And, and, if we were really worried about giving dave something as well, we would have just killed him that night.

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Post Post #8447  (isolation #573)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:41 am

In post 8446, Thanos wrote:Could be bad scum play too :P


Not when Ive been as involved as I have. My bad scum play comes from detaching from a thread and active lurking.

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Post Post #8450  (isolation #574)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:44 am

Scum me doesnt put 600 posts on the board, especially not when weve been in the hot seat as much as we have. I would have probably done more what I did in the DnD game where my brother kinda bailed on our hydra and I basically faded out of the thread.

I dont like large games. I generally only play them as hydras because I have someone else to help with the reading and that I can talk to. When I dont have that its exponentially harder for me to get into the groove.

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Post Post #8452  (isolation #575)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:45 am

In post 8449, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8447, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8446, Thanos wrote:Could be bad scum play too :P


Not when Ive been as involved as I have. My bad scum play comes from detaching from a thread and active lurking.


Actually I just read your scum play earlier today and most of it was complaining about being scumread and ate.

-d


What game did you read?

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Post Post #8454  (isolation #576)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:48 am

I need you to be more specific please.

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Post Post #8456  (isolation #577)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:49 am

Was it newbie 1871 by chance?

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Post Post #8460  (isolation #578)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:51 am

In post 8458, Thanos wrote:
In post 8456, Nev and Max wrote:Was it newbie 1871 by chance?

I remember my play with town!FF in Newbie 1888, he was pretty absent and also "complainy" about being scumread, much like here.


Ate a n1 kill as vanilla, I was happy with that game.

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Post Post #8466  (isolation #579)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:57 am

In post 8462, DrewVa wrote:I believe it was 1897 I skimmed and it looked in the ballpark of your tone here

-d


Main difference is that almost all of my posts were directed at one person in an attempt to put them on tilt. I went hard at Reaper because he was who I had identified as my most likely mislynch. Thats what I do as scum.

Where have I done that this game? Tone has to match intent too, one without the other is either hollow or too overt.

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Post Post #8471  (isolation #580)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:06 am

In post 8470, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8466, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8462, DrewVa wrote:I believe it was 1897 I skimmed and it looked in the ballpark of your tone here

-d


Main difference is that almost all of my posts were directed at one person in an attempt to put them on tilt. I went hard at Reaper because he was who I had identified as my most likely mislynch. Thats what I do as scum.

Where have I done that this game? Tone has to match intent too, one without the other is either hollow or too overt.


Yeah and you have been giving nancy shit all day while apologizing for night actions that are literally being explained by things I have no way of verifying. so yeah I would say you have seemed a lot more interested in ate and whining, which loosely matches your scum play

-d


How have i been giving nancy shit? what fucking game are you reading?

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Post Post #8582  (isolation #581)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:07 am

In post 8505, Thanos wrote:Hmm, N&M seem to have slid away now.


Your time stamp on this post is 240am. Am I supposed to check in before I fall asleep from now on, or am I still free to make that decision on my own?

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Post Post #8585  (isolation #582)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:16 am

In post 8534, UnaBombaH wrote:Like seriously.
So many players are acting like superstars, and simultaneously miss key points from other players posts.
With the experience some of you have, I'm no one to discredit that status, but please at least read what others write before continuing to not reevaluate.


This feels like a rehash of a post I made last night...

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Post Post #8686  (isolation #583)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:20 pm

In post 8685, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 8283, PenguinPower wrote:Just checked and I'm not sure that I've heard that anyone else on Una's list going to participate (except maybe creature?), and I'm not going to claim unless they are willing to participate.

I'm not


So even though most of the info is out there, you feel like you shouldn't claim right now? Why?

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Post Post #8689  (isolation #584)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:22 pm

In post 7778, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7506, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7500, Jingle wrote:Anything I received last night is not protown to claim.


I'm not, off hand, sure how this helps, but if you received a gifted prize we can bracket that off for now.

Can you do a quick checklist instead then:

"I did not receive a 'message' from the mod, i.e. 'Roadhog is town'" --

"I did not receive fruit" --

"I did not receive sticky fruit" --

"I did not enter a neighborhood" --

etc.

-d

I can check all of these btw
Reads list may happen, depends on effort I can and am willing to direct towards this game



Seems like your effort for the game is lacking...

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Post Post #8690  (isolation #585)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:25 pm

In post 8687, Auro wrote:We have a 1v1 to settle, why continue the massclaim?


Why settle on a 1v1 when we could potentially lay out the entire path to victory.

Think of it this way. In a war many battles are fought. Generals know that no matter what not every man is coming home. Sometimes they sacrifice individual battles, knowing that the more important ones are coming that they need to be better prepared for.

Right now we are only fighting 1 battle at a time as town. Scum is fighting all those battles at once and knows the land, what troops are being used, and where they need to shore up their defenses.

We need all the info we can get to see what makes sense and what doesn't. At this point unless your role is God there's no reason to hold it close to the best anymore.

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Post Post #8692  (isolation #586)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:23 pm

In post 8691, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know I have nothing that would help rn


I feel like at this point refusing to give info means that you have something to hide, or that you'd rather people not know. We've already almost have a full claim, you're likely not a better pr than we have, so maybe it's not fully your decision in not claiming anymore.

Tell me what neagtive utility you're trying to avoid and I'll let it go. And don't give me the "trying to draw a nk by making it seem like you were something special" excuse.

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Post Post #8694  (isolation #587)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:28 pm

In post 8693, profii wrote:
In post 8652, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8649, Thanos wrote:So this makes BEF scum? Wait how exactly again?


It means the crossclaim is a croasclaim it doesnt say the answer

1: profii lied and only sent fruit to tlk
2: bef fruited profii; ss jailed profii and bef fruited tlk

I think?

-d

2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?


Don't worry, I'm starting to think drew is flailing scum. Their planned mislynching of us has fallen apart. D has resorted to snorting in disbelief at most posts. Nancy has withdrawn from our tet-a-tet completely. They are running off the rails.

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Post Post #8699  (isolation #588)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:35 pm

In post 8695, PenguinPower wrote:Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.


Ok. Permit me to ask some questions to get context.

You're a fruit vendor. Correct?
Where did the neighbor shot come from?
Did it come with a loyal rider?
You started the hood n4?

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Post Post #8701  (isolation #589)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:36 pm

In post 8696, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8695, PenguinPower wrote:Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.


If you are scum then your loyal would have worked on scum!drew


If they were scum together the hood doesn't exist.

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Post Post #8703  (isolation #590)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:38 pm

In post 8702, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8693, profii wrote:2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?


BEF gave you fruit N1. Knowing this, and that you said you would send it to your loyal guy N2, S_S jailed you and BEF gave TLK fruit as a setup.

That's how I read it.


This would all depend on BEF having more than 1 shot though, right?

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Post Post #8706  (isolation #591)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:39 pm

And your chain of events makes things look worse for you, because you were the one who prompted tlk to out his gift.

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Post Post #8713  (isolation #592)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:43 pm

In post 8704, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8699, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8695, PenguinPower wrote:Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.


Ok. Permit me to ask some questions to get context.

You're a fruit vendor. Correct?
Where did the neighbor shot come from?
Did it come with a loyal rider?
You started the hood n4?


- Yes.
- BOONus round N2
- No. I receive loyal modifier N1.
- No. I started the hood N3.


@Boon- do loyal/disloyal modifiers affect neighborhoods as well?

If this has been previously answered and anyone remembers just tell it out

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Post Post #8716  (isolation #593)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:46 pm

In post 8710, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8706, Nev and Max wrote:And your chain of events makes things look worse for you, because you were the one who prompted tlk to out his gift.


Because I sent him fruit N2 after being loyalized and I wanted to see if I got a guilty or not.

Like...did you read my explanation that I posted earlier today?



I did. My gut is saying it's just too cutesy. Like you are just one cog in the plan dreamed up to set forth the whole tlk lynch, and the end of day shenanigans, and the start of today...

It was a catalyst that came just at the right time, which makes it feel manufactured to me.

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Post Post #8766  (isolation #594)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:14 pm

In post 8723, PenguinPower wrote:Phew. Glad I guessed what the mod was going to say about that when dreaming up my plan.


Not to seem confbiased, but if thats something that i am thinking about then scum probably thought about it to, and would have asked that question in a PM or in their confessional. I doubt Boon would answer if that question was asked before.

This just means that your fate is now directly tied to drews.

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Post Post #8768  (isolation #595)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:20 pm

In post 8738, DrewVa wrote:Theory 2: BEF sent the sticky fruit to Profii n1, then had S_S jail Profii n2, while sending the sticky fruit to TLK, thus generating a mechanical 1v1 between the supersaint and the variant role inventor.


This theory would need BEF to have gained a shot somewhere. Where did the extra shot come from when BEF lost his game night 1?

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Post Post #8771  (isolation #596)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:26 pm

In post 8750, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8703, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8702, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8693, profii wrote:2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?


BEF gave you fruit N1. Knowing this, and that you said you would send it to your loyal guy N2, S_S jailed you and BEF gave TLK fruit as a setup.

That's how I read it.


This would all depend on BEF having more than 1 shot though, right?


Not BEF, SS.

Maybe one of the N1 or 2 winners gifted a +1 to him?


Thats kind of what im getting at there chief. BEF lost his n1 game, and sent the fruit to profii night 1. For him to have taken another shot someone on his scum team would have had to win a game and send the prize his way. Boon already said that the +1 and prize were tied together, so if you send 1 you send the other.

There was another issue i remember where we had an extra modifier from a night iirc. We can look back and see who were winners in n1s game to see who could have sent bef another charge. At least 1 scum would be in the alive winners of n1.

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Post Post #8773  (isolation #597)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:30 pm

In post 8751, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8706, Nev and Max wrote:And your chain of events makes things look worse for you, because you were the one who prompted tlk to out his gift.


How so? If anything it helps confitown Penguin because he was obviously trying to alignment cop TLK and had TLK not received the stickyfruit, Penguin would have both prevented TLK mislynch and town!McQueen death.


And I can come up with a story explaining my theory as well. Neither of us have any proof to support our claims, and we each see merit in our own version of events. Im not going to get into a wall off trying to prove my point, because I cant.

I can point out that if we are 1v1 Bef v Profii i need someone to explain why scumBEF gives the sticky fruit to town!profii night 1?

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Post Post #8774  (isolation #598)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:32 pm

In post 8767, PenguinPower wrote:I already said I asked...jesus.

In post 8587, PenguinPower wrote:I asked and he specifically said it applied to my neighborizer shot.


Sorry man, im usually stoned when reading and there are a lot of posts. I missed that one...

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Post Post #8775  (isolation #599)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:34 pm

In post 8769, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8768, Nev and Max wrote:This theory would need BEF to have gained a shot somewhere. Where did the extra shot come from when BEF lost his game night 1?


There is no indication that every PR in the setup is one-shot; Profii claims his variant role is not one-shot, my variant role is not one-shot, and there is therefore no reason to conclude that the boon role of sticky fruit vendor would be one-shot, especially if it was a scum sticky fruit vendor in this setup. Therefore we do not need to demonstrate that BEF is a one-shot SFV given all we have to support that argument is his word on that matter.

-d


So BEF lied about being 1 shot? Why give it to town at all?

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