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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:43 am

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In post 1979, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1558, Varsoon wrote:Mewtaph's going to flip town.
Vote Shoshin.
In post 1559, Shoshin the worst wrote:So are we....
Hmmm...
VOTE: shoshin the worst
If this reds I think Mew is spewed town
-Gamma, hyperaware of context clues
You’re voting Stw to solely to clear Mew?

Why not the converse?
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 1980, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1977, Shoshin the worst wrote:Can you show me what's towny about her posts rq?
It's nothing about her posts but her posting habits.
I feel like scum Nico would have stayed in the game until something made her leave, which is what happened in the worst idea mafia. The fact she chose to replace out, something she only does as town iirc, probably makes her slot town.
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GAMMA, WHAT ABOUT OVERKILL 1???
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 1982, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1579, Mewtaph wrote:Hmm, ok.
I'll also be around before deadline if this doesn't work.
VOTE: pinturicchio
In post 1580, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1565, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1544, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1534, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1531, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 993, Shoshin the worst wrote:I think it's just Mewtaph and Taly atm but it does not make any sense to me, either.
Looks like it was just Mew tbh. I don't know what their shared meta is rn, Mew/Alchemist care to elucidate me?
-Gamma Emerald, reader of YA literature at age 19
I don’t think I’ve played with Mew before.
Ah, so he isn’t even basing his bad read on meta. His insistence in pushing you for reasons which make 0 sense to me, reads off to me.
I'm not playing in any games with you after this tbh, so you can stick "meta" up your ass.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nice AtE fail. Bravo.
In post 1581, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Shoshin the worst
Eh, not feeling it.
Curious.
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I found his like 10 second vote on Pint, really weird, too.
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 2014, Creature wrote:
In post 2010, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2008, Creature wrote:Now live interact with me

I got no reads though
Will you read the thread as you did in OK2 to catch up?
Hell no

Atleast not today
How can I interact with you if you don't know anything about the game aside from your alignment :lol:
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:49 am

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my vote definitely wasn't on jjh927, so that's wrong. it was on kokichi.

but I'm going to move it here anyway. we need a lynch and I don't want stw

VOTE: proflavor
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 1985, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1720, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1718, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1411, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Also Eraserhead/Leaf, please explain to me in what world advocating a policy lynch on our slot is not even remotely scummy. And what about Mew’s weirdass Gamma question?

What possible town motivation is there in Mew asking Gamma if he should townread her?


I’m waiting. :popcorn:
I can see town motivation in the question. I CanNOT see town motivation in asking it in sucha throwaway manner like Mew did.
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Hmmm . . . interesting. Yeah, didn’t he say, he wasn’t expecting an answer iirc?
He said he did but I still think he didn't really care, I definitely think the "he asked it to look like he was doing things" idea holds water, though if STW flips scum I'll prolly let it go.
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Yes, that’s how it looked to me. I mean why even bother to ask that question in the first place, if you weren’t expecting an answer?

And why are Pint and Eraserhead, just ignoring this?
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:53 am

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In post 1986, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1740, Varsoon wrote:Also, I don't really know that a 'rudeness tell' holds weight.
correlation is not causation

-V
Meh I definitely think behavioral tells are useful. I, for example, tend to try to "cash in" whenever I see something that could be painted as scummy when I'm scum. While as town I might hold off.
-Gamma, who's gonna take a small break. Will finish today though.
It’s just kind of extreme as well and even more true for the bizarro-assed PL, which I still for the life of me, don’t get how anyone is townreading. It’s whacked.
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:54 am

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@URAP2: Proflavor, by my count, only has 4 people who have vocalized support for the wagon. It's not going to happen within 8 hours. Put your vote to better use.
In post 1995, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1941, Varsoon wrote:
We are not swinging a last-minute wagon on Proflavor.
That wagon does not have the vocal support for a majority vote.
Please stop supporting vanity wagons in the last 24 hours we have.


-V
Well, I don’t like either Stw or Kokichi wagons.
I'm not asking you to like them, I'm asking you to compromise because otherwise we get no lynch.
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Yes, at one point during - was it D2 or D3 of SC 1 - town!Varsoon actively tried to get me lynched and as we know now, that would have resulted in a mislynch.
Will you never drop the fact that I pushed for a lynch on town, as town, once? I even changed my mind RIGHTFULLY, too, so I don't get why you're so hung up on me being WRONG ONCE in a way that DID NOT EVEN AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME because we DID NOT LYNCH YOU and I CAME AROUND TO A CORRECT TOWNREAD ON YOU. I don't understand why this is something you keep bringing up over and over. Yeah, I'm sorry that I couldn't magically divine that you weren't scum the ENTIRE GAME that time because I was playing from a position of having barely information and based on the information I had, it looked like you were scum baiting me for awhile.

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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:55 am

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In post 1991, Shoshin the worst wrote:just casually reiterating that Taly's slot is obvscum and should be lynched d2 if you dumbasses actually lynch us
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How is is obvscum? Based on?

I think Taly is obvtown and find me even one game where scum!Creature makes that kind of adamant defehse?
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:56 am

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In post 2032, Varsoon wrote:@URAP2: Proflavor, by my count, only has 4 people who have vocalized support for the wagon. It's not going to happen within 8 hours. Put your vote to better use.
It def won't happen if I don't try ;P
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 2013, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1961, pinturicchio wrote:I think Meph is town because of Ari but that was long ago, I can't recall why I was townreading them. Nancy I really can't sort her, had the same problem on OK2.
And I’m the same alignment here. Why were you sr me in OK 2? I never really understood that.
I think I was scumreading you at the start for something superficial and your reaction was weird, like "why the fuck are you scumreading me" or something along those lines, but now that I know you better, I know that kind of reactions are NAI from you. But that's my problem: I tend to scumread those kind of reactions, but that doesn't work on you.

Also I had my conspiracy theory that you were scum with Wisdom and that the whole 1v1 was staged because you both voted for the same person after discussing. Then I told you that I don't give a fuck about meta and that our styles are too different, so it's obvious that I can't sort you easily by reading, so I have to leave you do your thing and judge you by results. You had good reads on OK2, I expect the same here. Seems fair, right?
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 1992, Creature wrote:
In post 1991, Shoshin the worst wrote:just casually reiterating that Taly's slot is obvscum and should be lynched d2 if you dumbasses actually lynch us
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I see you didn't like my few posts...
Well, it’s kind of ironic to me, that they’re criticizing Varsoon for deathtunnelling them and they’re doing the exact same thing to your slot.

I have a hard gut townread on your slot for good reason and I don’t understand why they’re ignoring that.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:58 am

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@creature

You seem like an agreeable chap who hasn't read the game yet. How about lynching proflavor blind?
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:59 am

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In post 2030, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: Yes, that’s how it looked to me. I mean why even bother to ask that question in the first place, if you weren’t expecting an answer?

And why are Pint and Eraserhead, just ignoring this?
What is the thing I'm ignoring? Disagreeing with you is not ignoring something.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:59 am

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I’m here for an hour then illl be asleep

It’s pot luck if I wake up before the dead line as it’s really close to when I get up and I’m not getting up early to hopefully just see we made a majority anyway in the night

So I’ll be watching Netflix and answering anything you lot want after

I assume FL will make an appearance but it’s a mystery

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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 2018, Shoshin the worst wrote:mfw entire PoE is voting us
Varsoon(229)
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Kokichi Oma(19)
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Tibor and Lumia(157)
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is your entire PoE?
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 2004, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2003, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1956, pinturicchio wrote:For posterity: Michael Scott is following wrong town!Nancy to wherever she goes.
This is patently false. I never voted Kokichi and I sheeped HIM on Eraserhead, so explain that.
I know you voted after him, but if you read again that interaction between both of you you'll see he said with other words what you were implying already, in order to get a "yeah that's what I thought" from you. Example: you started saying "Pint is going down on my reads" and there comes Michael Scott with some shade on me to get your attention. If I recall correctly, that happened with three different reads.
You have inferred that MS is both scum with Stw and as well, wrongly following town!me. That’s a complete contradiction. Which one is it?
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 2037, u r a person 2 wrote:@creature

You seem like an agreeable chap who hasn't read the game yet. How about lynching proflavor blind?
But then how would FL claim masons with him later :(

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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 2007, Creature wrote:Well, I replaced in with 8 hours left, got 24 hours, used all the 24 hours on procrastinate.
In post 2008, Creature wrote:Now live interact with me

I got no reads though
How is Stw scumreading you, when jjh has pretty much done jack? That makes absolutely no sense.
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 2041, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2004, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2003, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1956, pinturicchio wrote:For posterity: Michael Scott is following wrong town!Nancy to wherever she goes.
This is patently false. I never voted Kokichi and I sheeped HIM on Eraserhead, so explain that.
I know you voted after him, but if you read again that interaction between both of you you'll see he said with other words what you were implying already, in order to get a "yeah that's what I thought" from you. Example: you started saying "Pint is going down on my reads" and there comes Michael Scott with some shade on me to get your attention. If I recall correctly, that happened with three different reads.
You have inferred that MS is both scum with Stw and as well, wrongly following town!me. That’s a complete contradiction. Which one is it?
Why can’t STW be scum
MS be scum
You be Town

And MS just sheeping you for (presumably) pocketing reasons

Obviously you disagree with those reads but the mechanics are fine
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:03 pm

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In post 2036, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1992, Creature wrote:
In post 1991, Shoshin the worst wrote:just casually reiterating that Taly's slot is obvscum and should be lynched d2 if you dumbasses actually lynch us
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Well, it’s kind of ironic to me, that they’re criticizing Varsoon for deathtunnelling them and they’re doing the exact same thing to your slot.

I have a hard gut townread on your slot for good reason and I don’t understand why they’re ignoring that.
Again, disagreeing with you is not ignoring anything... I was going to talk to you about this, by the way: why the fuck would I trust a "hard gut townread" instead of the whole case I did on Taly. What would that say about me if I said "oh ok Taly is town, Nancy has a gut townread on him"?

There's no need to talk about this right now tho, Creature is not a good lynch right now.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 2044, ProFlavor wrote:Why can’t STW be scum
MS be scum
You be Town

And MS just sheeping you for (presumably) pocketing reasons

Obviously you disagree with those reads but the mechanics are fine
Thanks. Pocketing a town player with wrong reads is a good scum strat, that's what I meant.

No need to answer my questions tho :roll:
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 2018, Shoshin the worst wrote:mfw entire PoE is voting us
In post 2019, Shoshin the worst wrote:Please remember to vca this later
In post 2020, Shoshin the worst wrote:Guess creature hasn't yet haha
Who's posting here? the worst or Shoshin?
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:06 pm

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Damn when I thought I posted but it's just that stupid preview I can't turn off.
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:07 pm

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In post 2009, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1996, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1943, pinturicchio wrote:I'm at page 53. Mew's reaction to his wagon was great. How he approached Nancy is exactly how I'm feeling right now: she just defends her townreads by attacking whoever is scumreading them. Flavor's reaction to Mew's wagon is townie as hell too, but I already said this. I don't see any scum intention on how Pro unvoted unless both Mew and Flavor are scum ---> Mew is apparently town because of his reaction ---> both are town, which is much more likely than both being scum (thinking that I caught two out of three scum instead of two out of ten towns... My tinfoil hat is not ready for that)
No it wasn’t. Mew’s reaction was horrible and very unlike town!Mew.
Could you explain this outside meta? 'Cause I've seen you say "last game Mew wasn't playing like this", and that's not even a meta read, it's too superficial.

Like, think that Mew is somebody else for one minute, and tell me what comes as scummy from his reaction, other than "he wants to PL me".
I really dislike how I continue to have my valid read on Mew’s uberscummy PL thing discredited solely because it just happened to be on me, which is what it sounds like you’re implying?

It’s scummy because there is simply nothing remotely townie about his reasoning for doing so, especially when it was in regard to a really bad push on Alchemist.

In SC1, he just reacted totally differently in SC1 and was far less aggressive in general and this was very recently, so I don’t believe town!Mew’s play does such a complete 180, in such a short amount of time.
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