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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 2018, Shoshin the worst wrote:mfw entire PoE is voting us
T & L aren’t in your POE and Creature isn’t voting you.
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 2046, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2044, ProFlavor wrote:Why can’t STW be scum
MS be scum
You be Town

And MS just sheeping you for (presumably) pocketing reasons

Obviously you disagree with those reads but the mechanics are fine
Thanks. Pocketing a town player with wrong reads is a good scum strat, that's what I meant.

No need to answer my questions tho :roll:
The derp was irritating me
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 2049, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: I really dislike how I continue to have my valid read on Mew’s uberscummy PL thing discredited solely because it just happened to be on me, which is what it sounds like you’re implying?

It’s scummy because there is simply nothing remotely townie about his reasoning for doing so, especially when it was in regard to a really bad push on Alchemist.

In SC1, he just reacted totally differently in SC1 and was far less aggressive in general and this was very recently, so I don’t believe town!Mew’s play does such a complete 180, in such a short amount of time.
I'm not implying anything, I'm asking you what was awful about his reaction, 'cause you disagree with me and keep replying me because of it, so I'm asking you why you disagree with me so hardly outside a meta read and the PL thing. Your reply here is again about the PL thing and meta :lol: I can't work with that and try to understand your point.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 2051, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 2046, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2044, ProFlavor wrote:Why can’t STW be scum
MS be scum
You be Town

And MS just sheeping you for (presumably) pocketing reasons

Obviously you disagree with those reads but the mechanics are fine
Thanks. Pocketing a town player with wrong reads is a good scum strat, that's what I meant.

No need to answer my questions tho :roll:
The derp was irritating me

Like to the point where the answer was obvious - I think I’m moving this into “playing ignorant on purpose territory”
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 2020, Shoshin the worst wrote:Guess creature hasn't yet haha
I think you’re wrong on Creature. I don’t understand why you’re so tunnelled on that slot.
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:12 pm

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If there was more time I’d be advocating a lynch- if we dead tomorrow please consider, tyvm
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 2047, Creature wrote: Who's posting here? the worst or Shoshin?
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:13 pm

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In post 2034, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 2032, Varsoon wrote:@URAP2: Proflavor, by my count, only has 4 people who have vocalized support for the wagon. It's not going to happen within 8 hours. Put your vote to better use.
It def won't happen if I don't try ;P
You understand how a majority lynch works, right?
We won't get ANY lynch if everyone just decided to 'try' for their biggest scumreads right now.

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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 2028, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2014, Creature wrote:
In post 2010, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2008, Creature wrote:Now live interact with me

I got no reads though
Will you read the thread as you did in OK2 to catch up?
Hell no

Atleast not today
How can I interact with you if you don't know anything about the game aside from your alignment :lol:
idk, pull something stupid and maybe I'll townread you for it?
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 1942, pinturicchio wrote:Volxen's case on me is awful, and Meph's swing on me is worse.

I wasn't on STW's wagon, the wagon happened when my RVS vote was there and I unvoted as soon as I could. I was on URAP2's wagon, yes, but I think I made myself clear about him...? And Michael Scott was on that wagon too, so Volxen trying to shade me while pushing ProFlavor is scummy, and I already had my doubts about that slot.

Nancy clearly disagrees with me on Taly/Creature and ProFlavor and that makes me scum... Great job, you caught me! And then you ask why is nobody listening you.

Scum is in {Creature, jjh, Kokichi, Michael Scott}

Already explained Creature and jjh, and I include Kokichi there since the chainsaw defense Taly was doing could be towards Nico or Kokichi, one or the other. Michael Scott recent swing at me with an argument he could've made 7 days ago seems manufactured, like he had that saved for when he needed to push me/ProFlavor.

I'll support any of those lynches.
Interesting how you came to hard scumread our slot (and have the exact same reads as Profii) only after we called out Profii for his BS lynch list and voted him for it. Yes, you did unvote STW after he got up to 6 votes in his initial wagon, but the fact remains that you and ProFlavor were (1) on the initial STW wagon together, (2) on the URAP2 wagon together, and now (3) on the STW wagon again together. And yes, we were on the URAP2 wagon also, but that is beside the point, which is that you and ProFlavor have been on multiple major wagons together. And particularly in the case of STW's early wagon, I don't believe he got up to 6/8 votes (L-2) without scum involvement.

Even more interesting is the fact that you have done a complete 180 on STW and joined their wagon, but only after a wagon against ProFlavor started forming.

By the way, I'm still unconvinced that your "holistic towntell" for TW was something that you genuinely believed in. Post was the post where TW used the word "holistic" one time, post was the post where you said it was a towntell for TW, and there was only a five-minute gap between the two posts. This means you didn't even think about it or meta dive TW, you just townlocked him (at the time anyways) because he used the word "holistic" one time in this game. Why should I believe that is more likely to come from town!Pint rather than scum!Pint? Because it seems more likely that it was just a fake TMI read. I think town!you would have taken sorting TW more seriously.

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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 2037, u r a person 2 wrote:@creature

You seem like an agreeable chap who hasn't read the game yet. How about lynching proflavor blind?
Sure, I always wanted to feel like Daredevil.
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 2039, ProFlavor wrote:So I’ll be watching Netflix
Oh damn, I also have a date with Netflix tonight.
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 2043, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2007, Creature wrote:Well, I replaced in with 8 hours left, got 24 hours, used all the 24 hours on procrastinate.
In post 2008, Creature wrote:Now live interact with me

I got no reads though
How is Stw scumreading you, when jjh has pretty much done jack? That makes absolutely no sense.
jjh is playing?
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:18 pm

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Would be pretty funny to do the catch up I did at Overkill 2, but I don't feel like it rn.
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:19 pm

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In post 2032, Varsoon wrote:@URAP2: Proflavor, by my count, only has 4 people who have vocalized support for the wagon. It's not going to happen within 8 hours. Put your vote to better use.
In post 1995, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1941, Varsoon wrote:
We are not swinging a last-minute wagon on Proflavor.
That wagon does not have the vocal support for a majority vote.
Please stop supporting vanity wagons in the last 24 hours we have.


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Well, I don’t like either Stw or Kokichi wagons.
I'm not asking you to like them, I'm asking you to compromise because otherwise we get no lynch.
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Yes, at one point during - was it D2 or D3 of SC 1 - town!Varsoon actively tried to get me lynched and as we know now, that would have resulted in a mislynch.
Will you never drop the fact that I pushed for a lynch on town, as town, once? I even changed my mind RIGHTFULLY, too, so I don't get why you're so hung up on me being WRONG ONCE in a way that DID NOT EVEN AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME because we DID NOT LYNCH YOU and I CAME AROUND TO A CORRECT TOWNREAD ON YOU. I don't understand why this is something you keep bringing up over and over. Yeah, I'm sorry that I couldn't magically divine that you weren't scum the ENTIRE GAME that time because I was playing from a position of having barely information and based on the information I had, it looked like you were scum baiting me for awhile.

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How is it a good use of my vote to vote for a wagon that I think is likely to flip green?

I keep bringing this up, because you were for a fact, so strongly tunneled on me for quite awhile that you didn’t listen to anyone, who contradicted your wrong sr on me. Xtoxm tried to get though to you too and you didn’t listen to him. My point is, how do I know you’re not making that same mistake with Stw here? I don’t.

Another good reason why Stw should be townreading Taly, because he didn’t get your tunnel on them either. So their continued Taly scumread, makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 2035, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2013, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1961, pinturicchio wrote:I think Meph is town because of Ari but that was long ago, I can't recall why I was townreading them. Nancy I really can't sort her, had the same problem on OK2.
And I’m the same alignment here. Why were you sr me in OK 2? I never really understood that.
I think I was scumreading you at the start for something superficial and your reaction was weird, like "why the fuck are you scumreading me" or something along those lines, but now that I know you better, I know that kind of reactions are NAI from you. But that's my problem: I tend to scumread those kind of reactions, but that doesn't work on you.

Also I had my conspiracy theory that you were scum with Wisdom and that the whole 1v1 was staged because you both voted for the same person after discussing. Then I told you that I don't give a fuck about meta and that our styles are too different, so it's obvious that I can't sort you easily by reading, so I have to leave you do your thing and judge you by results. You had good reads on OK2, I expect the same here. Seems fair, right?
Yeah. Interesting thing, my voting patters were almost identical to scum!Wisdom’s in that game. But his opening was weird. Scum tend to slip most very early. That was true both for scum!Wisdom and scum!tw in SC1 and holds true for a lot of games I’ve been in but you usually can’t tell that until after a few flips.
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 2037, u r a person 2 wrote:@creature

You seem like an agreeable chap who hasn't read the game yet. How about lynching proflavor blind?
I’d switch to Mew in a heartbeat but that obviously ain’t happening. :/
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 2038, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2030, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: Yes, that’s how it looked to me. I mean why even bother to ask that question in the first place, if you weren’t expecting an answer?

And why are Pint and Eraserhead, just ignoring this?
What is the thing I'm ignoring? Disagreeing with you is not ignoring something.
I think it’s definitely worth commenting on. Why does Mew ask Gamma that question, if he wasn’t expecting an answer? Can you explain that?
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 2042, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 2037, u r a person 2 wrote:@creature

You seem like an agreeable chap who hasn't read the game yet. How about lynching proflavor blind?
But then how would FL claim masons with him later :(

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I seriously doubt there are any masons in this setup. :lol:
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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:27 pm

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In post 2014, Creature wrote:
In post 2010, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2008, Creature wrote:Now live interact with me

I got no reads though
Will you read the thread as you did in OK2 to catch up?
Hell no

Atleast not today
Because it’s Thursday, amirite?
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 2059, Michael Scott wrote: Interesting how you came to hard scumread our slot (and have the exact same reads as Profii) only after we called out Profii for his BS lynch list and voted him for it. Yes, you did unvote STW after he got up to 6 votes in his initial wagon, but the fact remains that you and ProFlavor were (1) on the initial STW wagon together, (2) on the URAP2 wagon together, and now (3) on the STW wagon again together. And yes, we were on the URAP2 wagon also, but that is beside the point, which is that you and ProFlavor have been on multiple major wagons together. And particularly in the case of STW's early wagon, I don't believe he got up to 6/8 votes (L-2) without scum involvement.

Even more interesting is the fact that you have done a complete 180 on STW and joined their wagon, but only after a wagon against ProFlavor started forming.

By the way, I'm still unconvinced that your "holistic towntell" for TW was something that you genuinely believed in. Post was the post where TW used the word "holistic" one time, post was the post where you said it was a towntell for TW, and there was only a five-minute gap between the two posts. This means you didn't even think about it or meta dive TW, you just townlocked him (at the time anyways) because he used the word "holistic" one time in this game. Why should I believe that is more likely to come from town!Pint rather than scum!Pint? Because it seems more likely that it was just a fake TMI read. I think town!you would have taken sorting TW more seriously.

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I was wary about you even before I had my hiatus from the game, and after rereading the thread I came to the conclusion you're scum. What's so interesting about that?

I didn't 180 on STW, I had lazy reads before the hiatus 'cause I was disengaged, and after rereading the thread... You get the idea.

Again with the bullcrap that I was in STW's wagon at the begining. It was an RVS vote that stayed there until I saw the wagon and unvoted. Stop with that shit. So what's your conclusion about me and ProFlavor townreading each other and having similiar scumreads? That we are both scum and that we're pushing mislynches together? Think again honey, if I were scum with ProFlavor, Mewtaph would already be death, unless we were the whole scumteam omg you got us!!!

So your whole thing is shitty at best. I wasn't on the first wagon (yeah, theoretically yes, but no, it was an RVS vote), URAP2s wagon wasn't a major wagon either. So, sorry if I don't care too much about you believing my "holistic towntell" reasoning. If you really want to know, town!Pint does jackshit effort to confirm what he says 'cause if he's wrong, he just says "oopsie", like what happened here with the towntell on TW. Scum!Pint would've done the same work you did to confirm if going for the "towntell" agenda was a good option. Do your homework and meta me if you want to confirm this.
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 2067, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2038, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2030, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: Yes, that’s how it looked to me. I mean why even bother to ask that question in the first place, if you weren’t expecting an answer?

And why are Pint and Eraserhead, just ignoring this?
What is the thing I'm ignoring? Disagreeing with you is not ignoring something.
I think it’s definitely worth commenting on. Why does Mew ask Gamma that question, if he wasn’t expecting an answer? Can you explain that?
I think Mew already answered this, am I wrong? Why would I be able to answer that, you're framing the question to look like the only answer is "he's scum" :lol:
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:37 pm

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In post 2044, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 2041, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2004, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2003, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1956, pinturicchio wrote:For posterity: Michael Scott is following wrong town!Nancy to wherever she goes.
This is patently false. I never voted Kokichi and I sheeped HIM on Eraserhead, so explain that.
I know you voted after him, but if you read again that interaction between both of you you'll see he said with other words what you were implying already, in order to get a "yeah that's what I thought" from you. Example: you started saying "Pint is going down on my reads" and there comes Michael Scott with some shade on me to get your attention. If I recall correctly, that happened with three different reads.
You have inferred that MS is both scum with Stw and as well, wrongly following town!me. That’s a complete contradiction. Which one is it?
Why can’t STW be scum
MS be scum
You be Town

And MS just sheeping you for (presumably) pocketing reasons

Obviously you disagree with those reads but the mechanics are fine
He was pocketing me by discrediting my very valid read on Mew for wanting to PL me?

The #1 thing concerning me about Stw, is their strong scumread on a slot I hard townread. which is making no sense to me and why they’re not commenting at all on the non-presence of jjh.

I also have some meta with Auro and his bad jump on Kokichi is not at all surprising to me. A lot of people make bad reads by strictly adhering to conventional wisdom in making reads, which as you have see in my case in OK 2 for example, isn’t necessarily a good metric for everyone.

I would love to switch my vote to Mew but I don’t want to get yelled at. :/
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:41 pm

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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 0, Krazy wrote:Creatyre replaces Taly
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