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Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:09 pm

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VOTE: STW
that's L-1.
honestly don't mind lynching PF instead.
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pedit: Varsoon, i had a position, the votecount just showed up so i could vote.
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Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:11 pm

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In post 2076, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1574, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1537, Tibor and Lumia wrote: Yo
I want a reason for why you asked me how I read myself with no anticipated answer. That's a question people with pre-existing notions on the subject ask.
-Gamma Emerald, who is probably done for a while as his focus is broken
I expected no based off of your commentary in , but also some sort of clarification on engagement or activity. I thought your response was in line with what I expected. In terms of "open-ended", I was open to however you wanted to interpret it, though saying yes would be kind of a tonal shift off of what you already said so would require some follow-up or reasoning for me to verify. IIRC, you weren't appearing as much as Brass at that point which is why I wanted to get an answer from you then.
The answer to why he should be townreading Gamma? Presisely what response could he have possibly be expecting? Nope, still not buying it.
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Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:12 pm

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In post 2096, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2091, Creature wrote:Why are we even lynching Shoshin?
because we have 7 hours left and town doesn't want to lynch Kokichi.
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Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:13 pm

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In post 2101, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2076, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1574, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1537, Tibor and Lumia wrote: Yo
I want a reason for why you asked me how I read myself with no anticipated answer. That's a question people with pre-existing notions on the subject ask.
-Gamma Emerald, who is probably done for a while as his focus is broken
I expected no based off of your commentary in , but also some sort of clarification on engagement or activity. I thought your response was in line with what I expected. In terms of "open-ended", I was open to however you wanted to interpret it, though saying yes would be kind of a tonal shift off of what you already said so would require some follow-up or reasoning for me to verify. IIRC, you weren't appearing as much as Brass at that point which is why I wanted to get an answer from you then.
The answer to why he should be townreading Gamma? Presisely what response could he have possibly be expecting? Nope, still not buying it.
Ok, we disagree then. Why do you think my other post was something along the lines "my interpretation is the only correct one"? I told you that your wording was weird, 'cause it was nearly impossible to anwer the question you made.
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Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:13 pm

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In post 2102, Creature wrote:
In post 2096, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2091, Creature wrote:Why are we even lynching Shoshin?
because we have 7 hours left and town doesn't want to lynch Kokichi.
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Why would we lynch Kokichi?
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Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 2079, Varsoon wrote:@Mephisto: My read here is informed by more than primarily rolespec and paranoia, for one, but you're right. There's no way I can KNOW that STW is or isn't scum here; that's the whole fucking game of mafia. I'm CONFIDENT in my read there and OTHER PEOPLE are SEEING WHAT I AM SEEING and I am not going to step back from MY MOST INFORMED AND CONFIDENT READ just because I might be wrong.

Moreover, how do you KNOW that you aren't just WRONG here and that you're willing to take A NO LYNCH over admitting that, maybe, you got it wrong this time?

Also, consider this;
I die tonight. There is no way I don't.
If I die and STW is still in the game, there's a chance of them making it to endgame.
If they endgame and win as scum, I will experience fury like none other.
I don't want that possibility to even be there.
I am that confident in my read and in their capacity to slither out of bullshit because everyone's so fucking resistant to lynching them for what I feel isn't any good moddamn reason.


Also I'm fuckin' pissed because the new Magic set just released and I'm not gonna get to play any sealed or limited events and I didn't get to do any pre-releases but I was hype to play limited events on MTG Arena and had 10,000 gold banked up and that'd be my afternoon but NO ALL THE FUCKING EVENTS THEY ARE RUNNING COST GEMS AND I'LL BE FUCKING DAMNED IF I SPEND ANY MONEY ON ARENA AFTER THEY SCREWED ME OVER WITH DUELS I SPENT 200 HOURS IN DUELS AND THEY JUST ABANDONED IT AUUGH

So anyway please vote STW
so we can have a lynch
And if they flip green, whatever, I'll give myself 1000 lashes or exile myself from site or whatever fucking pennance someone should do for being wrong in a fucking game but moddamn at least I stood by what I believed in for once.

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You still haven’t explained to me, the connection you perceive with them not dying and being scum.

Would you still be scumreading them, if they hadn’t fooled you in SC 1? Because I’m still not seeing it.
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Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:16 pm

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In post 2097, Varsoon wrote:Creature, I know you're here. Take a position.
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Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:17 pm

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In post 2081, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2080, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: When policy lynches are advovated for bad reasons. it more often than not tends to come from scum.

Especially for Mew, for someone like RC OTOH, I’d view that as NAI.

And Mew’s initial push on Alchemist, still makes 0 sense to me and I’m quite happy with how I dealt with that, since based on what I know of Alchemist play in OK 2, I knew it was a really bad push on him by Mew.
And why do you think scum!Mew decides, being at L-1, to push Alchemist?
It’s his reaction to my reaction to it, that bothers me more than anything. Why doesn’t he back off of it and question if he might possibly be wrong about that? Instead he practically flips out on me for objecting to it.
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Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:18 pm

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In post 2104, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2102, Creature wrote:
In post 2096, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2091, Creature wrote:Why are we even lynching Shoshin?
because we have 7 hours left and town doesn't want to lynch Kokichi.
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Why would we lynch Kokichi?
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Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:18 pm

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In post 2084, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 2072, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:He was pocketing me by discrediting my very valid read on Mew for wanting to PL me?
Nope
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Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:19 pm

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In post 2107, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2081, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2080, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: When policy lynches are advovated for bad reasons. it more often than not tends to come from scum.

Especially for Mew, for someone like RC OTOH, I’d view that as NAI.

And Mew’s initial push on Alchemist, still makes 0 sense to me and I’m quite happy with how I dealt with that, since based on what I know of Alchemist play in OK 2, I knew it was a really bad push on him by Mew.
And why do you think scum!Mew decides, being at L-1, to push Alchemist?
It’s his reaction to my reaction to it, that bothers me more than anything. Why doesn’t he back off of it and question if he might possibly be wrong about that? Instead he practically flips out on me for objecting to it.
Did you ask him directly why he said the thing about the PL on you? I can't recall neither you asking or him answering why he said that (with or without the question)
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Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:19 pm

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I'm against lynching Kokichi today anyway.
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Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:19 pm

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portorrichio is town yey
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Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 2085, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 2083, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2055, ProFlavor wrote:If there was more time I’d be advocating a lynch- if we dead tomorrow please consider, tyvm
Who are you advocating a lynch on?
You
Okay, you are advocating for my mislynch? Yep, locktowning you for that. :igmeou:
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Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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For some reason I thought ProFlavor was RedFlavor + someone.
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Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:22 pm

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@Mephisto: The reaction they had to getting shot was really weird and the way they played around it strikes me as scum gambiting.
I'd still be scumreading them but I'd probably be more willing to compromise elsewhere but since they LITERALLY just taught me a lesson on why I shouldn't compromise when it comes to reading them, I'm a lot more confident in it.

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vote for someone in the lead wagons yeah
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Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:22 pm

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^ That's a Var post

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Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:23 pm

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In post 2110, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2107, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2081, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2080, Mephistophanes 39 wrote: When policy lynches are advovated for bad reasons. it more often than not tends to come from scum.

Especially for Mew, for someone like RC OTOH, I’d view that as NAI.

And Mew’s initial push on Alchemist, still makes 0 sense to me and I’m quite happy with how I dealt with that, since based on what I know of Alchemist play in OK 2, I knew it was a really bad push on him by Mew.
And why do you think scum!Mew decides, being at L-1, to push Alchemist?
It’s his reaction to my reaction to it, that bothers me more than anything. Why doesn’t he back off of it and question if he might possibly be wrong about that? Instead he practically flips out on me for objecting to it.
Did you ask him directly why he said the thing about the PL on you? I can't recall neither you asking or him answering why he said that (with or without the question)
Well that’s been my point, he hasn’t and he totally was trying to engage me in SC1 and I should have realized that he was town, specifically for doing that. :facepalm:
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Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm

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In post 2117, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2110, pinturicchio wrote: Did you ask him directly why he said the thing about the PL on you? I can't recall neither you asking or him answering why he said that (with or without the question)
Well that’s been my point, he hasn’t and he totally was trying to engage me in SC1 and I should have realized that he was town, specifically for doing that. :facepalm:
Ok, fair point, I get where you're coming from with the PL thing now. Thanks Nancy.
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Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm

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In post 2115, Varsoon wrote:How do I play
Your first move can be just [some letter]5.

It took me long to figure.
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Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm

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In post 2115, Varsoon wrote:vote for someone in the lead wagons yeah
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Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 pm

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In post 2111, Creature wrote:I'm against lynching Kokichi today anyway.
In post 2112, Creature wrote:portorrichio is town yey
You maybe right on Pint. Maybe one of my townreads is wrong then?

I like that you’re mindmelding with me on Kokichi.

@Stw, still this there’s a snowball’s chance in hell this is ever scum?
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Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:27 pm

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In post 2121, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Maybe one of my townreads is wrong then?
What are your townreads?
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In post 2121, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:@Stw, still this there’s a snowball’s chance in hell this is ever scum?
Who are you talking to?
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Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 2118, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2117, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2110, pinturicchio wrote: Did you ask him directly why he said the thing about the PL on you? I can't recall neither you asking or him answering why he said that (with or without the question)
Well that’s been my point, he hasn’t and he totally was trying to engage me in SC1 and I should have realized that he was town, specifically for doing that. :facepalm:
Ok, fair point, I get where you're coming from with the PL thing now. Thanks Nancy.
Okay, I think you maybe town and this is definitely town!Creature, so town!Stw should realiize that.

What do you think about Eraserhead advocating my slot be the lynch tomorrow?
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