Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!

[Varsoon]

Varsoon, how familiar are you with Occams razor?

Fairly familiar but it doesn't fit in GAMES OF RHETORIC among people who have high meta-knowledge of each other and can forum-dive ISOs of every single post ever made.
I also know people on-site like using Occams Razor to justify garbage positions.

[Varsoon]

But, y'know, Mephisto, funny you mention Occam's razor because my role interaction, Occam's Razor-wise, dictates STW's just scum.

So what I should be saying is
Are YOU familiar with occam's razor?

[Creature]

Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

I was trying to wait for SOMEONE to give me some reason why it'd fail on STW but no one outted it and STW STILL REFUSES to claim but says they aren't BP.
So I've gotta figure one of a few things is true:
1. Scum have some way to stop the kill based on placement and have stayed quiet
2. STW's just denying BP for SOME REASON AS TOWN??
3. Town stopped the kill, somehow, and is not claiming it because outting town PRs is not great and with me outted they can position to best keep their townreads alive.

So yeah
There's that too
Fuck
Now will people please just listen to me and bury the slot?

Can someone confirm this was indeed talked a lot about before and it's not Varsoon just trying to get his scumread lynched?

[pinturicchio]

Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

I was trying to wait for SOMEONE to give me some reason why it'd fail on STW but no one outted it and STW STILL REFUSES to claim but says they aren't BP.
So I've gotta figure one of a few things is true:
1. Scum have some way to stop the kill based on placement and have stayed quiet
2. STW's just denying BP for SOME REASON AS TOWN??
3. Town stopped the kill, somehow, and is not claiming it because outting town PRs is not great and with me outted they can position to best keep their townreads alive.

So yeah
There's that too
Fuck
Now will people please just listen to me and bury the slot?

Can someone confirm this was indeed talked a lot about before and it's not Varsoon just trying to get his scumread lynched?

The dayvig thingy? Yes, it was fairly discussed.

[u r a person 2]

I believe this claim. I think I know your flavor
VOTE: stw

[Mephistophanes 39]

Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

I was trying to wait for SOMEONE to give me some reason why it'd fail on STW but no one outted it and STW STILL REFUSES to claim but says they aren't BP.
So I've gotta figure one of a few things is true:
1. Scum have some way to stop the kill based on placement and have stayed quiet
2. STW's just denying BP for SOME REASON AS TOWN??
3. Town stopped the kill, somehow, and is not claiming it because outting town PRs is not great and with me outted they can position to best keep their townreads alive.

So yeah
There's that too
Fuck
Now will people please just listen to me and bury the slot?

I’d maybe buy that

at night

but not during the day. I think the most logical explanation is their position vis a vis yours, was the reason your kill didn’t go through. There’s reason, this aspect is emphasized in the setup.

[Almost Chara]

i think Varsoon should have just claimed that once it became obvious everybody was TRing him. this close to deadline it just doesn't feel like a real claim.
that said, we aren't no lynching.
~Chara

pedit: was that hammer?

[Varsoon]

I believe this claim. I think I know your flavor
VOTE: stw

Then you should be pretty aware of why I've avoided claiming flavor and why I've tried to warn others why claiming flavor tilts a ton of info.

[jjh927]

Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

I was trying to wait for SOMEONE to give me some reason why it'd fail on STW but no one outted it and STW STILL REFUSES to claim but says they aren't BP.
So I've gotta figure one of a few things is true:
1. Scum have some way to stop the kill based on placement and have stayed quiet
2. STW's just denying BP for SOME REASON AS TOWN??
3. Town stopped the kill, somehow, and is not claiming it because outting town PRs is not great and with me outted they can position to best keep their townreads alive.

So yeah
There's that too
Fuck
Now will people please just listen to me and bury the slot?

Oh okay

This makes it easier for me and I'll catch up at night

PEdit: wait that's L-1 right

[Mephistophanes 39]

Wow, still double L-2.

[Creature]

VOTE: STW

[Varsoon]

I'm glad that multiple people won't just take confirmed-town Varsoon's words at face value
Man fuck playing mafia if this is how people are gonna treat me.

[pinturicchio]

i think Varsoon should have just claimed that once it became obvious everybody was TRing him. this close to deadline it just doesn't feel like a real claim.
that said, we aren't no lynching.
~Chara

pedit: was that hammer?

Nope, STW is at L-2 right now 'cause Kokichi unvoted them. ProFlavor is at L-2 now since URAP2 changed his vote.

p-edit that's L-1

[Tibor and Lumia]

stw is L-1
I was discussing voting ProFlavor with brass but don’t think we should now

[Creature]

If this flips town and you come into D2 retracting the claim I simply won't believe you.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

I was trying to wait for SOMEONE to give me some reason why it'd fail on STW but no one outted it and STW STILL REFUSES to claim but says they aren't BP.
So I've gotta figure one of a few things is true:
1. Scum have some way to stop the kill based on placement and have stayed quiet
2. STW's just denying BP for SOME REASON AS TOWN??
3. Town stopped the kill, somehow, and is not claiming it because outting town PRs is not great and with me outted they can position to best keep their townreads alive.

So yeah
There's that too
Fuck
Now will people please just listen to me and bury the slot?

Oh okay

This makes it easier for me and I'll catch up at night

PEdit: wait that's L-1 right

No because Kokichi and Bono switched wagons.

[Almost Chara]

i really want STW lynched, but no lynch is shit.

VOTE: Pro

what did i miss that made STW suddenly not the top wagon, and made you move your vote?
~Chara

pedit: :<
what else do you want me to do Varsoon? i'm lynching STW here.

[jjh927]

Eh Varsoon claim makes sufficient sense, is the kind of thing I would anticipate when the mod says there's a role similar to a town vig (ie not a classic vig), and hammering would let me focus on how attentional research topics are relevant to a news article of my choice

Did anyone else claim vig or do I just hammer here

[Mephistophanes 39]

L-1 now on Stw.

I just don’t see why scum pulls this sort of gambit. I mean they could have easily been quicklynched like it happnee numerous times last game.

[Almost Chara]

and what i'm annoyed at is you had a hard guilty and you spent this whole time yelling that nobody was listening, when you could have just outed this and everybody would have followed you. of course i'm going to be skeptical that you had a hard guilty and didn't out it the

last

time we were close to deadline. and yes i know mechanics don't make this technically a full guilty but it sure does make STW a great lynch, and it's close enough.
~Chara

[Almost Chara]

L-1 now on Stw.

I just don’t see why scum pulls this sort of gambit. I mean they could have easily been quicklynched like it happnee numerous times last game.

what gambit?

[Almost Chara]

i really want STW lynched, but no lynch is shit.

VOTE: Pro

Talk about scum claims and wanting to lynch anyone. BOTH LEADING WAGONS ARE TOWN I TELL YOU, PEOPLE. KOKICHI IS SCUM.

~A50

[Almost Chara]

Nancy, please unvote.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Eh Varsoon claim makes sufficient sense, is the kind of thing I would anticipate when the mod says there's a role similar to a town vig (ie not a classic vig), and hammering would let me focus on how attentional research topics are relevant to a news article of my choice

Did anyone else claim vig or do I just hammer here

No one is doubting Varsoon is vig but I still don’t understand, how them not dying makes them scum?

Seriously, I really don’t?

[Almost Chara]

Eh Varsoon claim makes sufficient sense, is the kind of thing I would anticipate when the mod says there's a role similar to a town vig (ie not a classic vig), and hammering would let me focus on how attentional research topics are relevant to a news article of my choice

Did anyone else claim vig or do I just hammer here

if you don't hammer, i will. just wasn't going to do so until i'd given Almost a heads up because it would definitely feel wrong to go completely against his wishes.
~Chara

pedit: hi Almost! we can kill Kokichi tomorrow, like i've wanted to for a while now. ;>