BooneyToonz Extravaganza: LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

[PenguinPower]

Not even sure why you inserted yourself into the convo between me and Jingle.

[PenguinPower]

I haven't intimated anything.

Go do some yoga and calm down.

[PenguinPower]

I never claimed to have anything on you. I can’t help what you assume.

[PenguinPower]

My speculation is that the scum team has the ability to force any player to be a day rep, not just one of their own.

Boon clarified the ability applies to their teammates.

[PenguinPower]

Don’t think this was ever asked

Last Night Tomorrow FACTS!!!

Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!

@Boon is this only able to make mafia the day rep or can town be selected as well?

Scum can still be able to become a Day Rep without using that ability, however using the ability can let them pick one of their teammates to become automatically one of the Day Reps.

I mean...if he was going to leave it open ended it would say "someone." I don't think mod!Boon is as bad as player!Boon when it comes to stuff like that.

[PenguinPower]

Eh. It's definitely something I can see him doing, and it's a big bag of WIFOM that doesn't affect my reads anyway, so... Basically the point is that we don't know what the day rep selection mechanic means and trying to scumhunt using it right now is a trap.

I don't disagree.

[PenguinPower]

Why’s that?

[PenguinPower]

Yes. That's what I commuted last night means.

Why did you feel the need to commute last night?

I'm assuming you're limited charges.

Anything I received last night is not protown to claim.

Also help me understand this in context of you commuting.

[PenguinPower]

In short though: yes, I've lied, but it was brilliant in my mind and I baited scum to try and lynch me so we'd kill them.

It wasn't brilliant at all. We would have lynched S_S without you lying...we just would have lynched you too - which we may have to do at some point anyway because....you lied.

[PenguinPower]

Kinda just want to lynch you so you don't make it to N5.

[PenguinPower]

I'm petty.

[PenguinPower]

And duck deserves it more.

[PenguinPower]

Xtox claimed to have targeted EJ with a vig N3

Where was this?

[PenguinPower]

Pretty much every prize we've seen is better than friendly neighbor having a second shot.

I can confirm this is probably not true.

[PenguinPower]

Explicitly true.

Friendly neighbor shot two is either no utility at all or 1 IC IF xtox is scum.

Weak, loyal and disloyal are all potentially mutiple investigations. Vig is another name off of the PoE list. 1 shot charge transfer is another investigation for one of the weak/loyal/disloyal players. Loud, in conjunction with weak or loyal makes the investigative role stronger.

1-shot eraser + scum modifiers.

[PenguinPower]

No? Him not having vigged explains exactly ONE of the issues, the missing vig gift. There's still the rest of that post that is relevant.

Where is there a missing vig gift?

[PenguinPower]

If anyone takes one shot eraser they deserve to be policy lynched. To that end: if one shot eraser is an option in a Boonus room gift any prizes you receive in said room. And yes, if Thanos is in a room with nothing but negative utility choices, the best thing he gets out of the room is the ability to Friendly Neighbor again. That's because all of the other options are negative value.

So I suppose you are technically correct. I'll send you your pedantic ass membership card in the mail.

They deserve to be policy lynched over...say...Elsa?

Explain.

[PenguinPower]

So I suppose you are technically correct. I'll send you your pedantic ass membership card in the mail.

:thinking gif:

^

we really need one of these

[PenguinPower]

N&M was very towny in Boonus Room C night 2

[PenguinPower]

I took Eraser.

[PenguinPower]

Eraser has two viable uses.

Mostly because this is incorrect.

[PenguinPower]

Ugh...I was townreading but now I'm getting an 8-ball feeling.

p-edit

Yeah...why is that just occurring now since that was your mechanical thing yesterday.

[PenguinPower]

Why?

I had a use for it over the other scummy options. I made this known in my room.

[PenguinPower]

I assumed people would just, you know, do the protown thing

Well this is silly. You expect people to, unprompted, start stating BOONus room results?

[PenguinPower]

What modifier are you erasing?

One that I think should have been erased.

[PenguinPower]

Did they....maybe I missed it then.

[PenguinPower]

:LOL:

[PenguinPower]

Quite a swap from a strong townread

[PenguinPower]

Profii and Nero.

Prizes were:
Ninja
Macho
1-shot Charge Transfer
Multitasking
1-shot Eraser

I won, they lost.

I gifted my choice. Whoever received it know who they are.

[PenguinPower]

Tfw your anti-town behavior gets trumped by everyone elsa's.

Can you disappear for awhile?

[PenguinPower]

Quite a swap from a strong townread

If you were given an antitown modifier by scum, you would claim when you were given it so we could PoE find the person responsible.
If you had an antitown modifier from the beginning, you would let everyone know what it is now because you no longer have it.
If you are scum, you just took a prize that lets you vanilla-ize a cop or give scum back the ability to kill.

You are refusing to explain why.

Hi. See above.

[PenguinPower]

If you are scum, you just took a prize that lets you vanilla-ize a cop or give scum back the ability to kill.

Like...they literally get to choose whether or not they use the Eraser so fuck off.

[PenguinPower]

But then who'd be the comic relief for this fantastical and outstanding adventure?

Fair.

[PenguinPower]

Probably just should lynch anyone who claims ascetic or commuter then. Weak and loyal modifiers won't work on them.

[PenguinPower]

Like...I literally told you that I outed in my BOONus room what I was doing with the prize. Your reaction doesn't make sense.

[PenguinPower]

You realize the point of the PoE is to round up people who can't possibly have committed the scumkill and lynch outside of that group, right? Ascetic has nothing to do with that, and even if I were a scum commuter I couldn't kill and commute in the same night.

Then you shouldn't worry where my gift went. It didn't break your POE.

[PenguinPower]

Pedit: did you out who you were giving it to?

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

and even if I were a scum commuter I couldn't kill and commute in the same night.

Wasn't my point.

[PenguinPower]

My target know that I targeted them.

They've already made mention of it.

And, LOL, if you think you're flipping me today.

[PenguinPower]

Like...you are not the paragon of town that you think you are.

[PenguinPower]

You said you had a town read on me...I'm being honest with my info right now...why would you not trust me?

What did I gain outing my take as scum?

[PenguinPower]

I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics.

I don't presume to be the best at anything else.

Then mechanically, why would I have done what I just did as scum?

Seems pretty stupid to erase your TR from a vocal player.

[PenguinPower]

And if you are only going to play based on mechanics, we should probably just get rid of you.

[PenguinPower]

I don't actually expect to be able to lynch you today. Hell, I don't think I'll be able to derail the Elsa lynch despite it being terrible. I do think that your lynch is the best one.

And I think yours is.

[PenguinPower]

Mechanically speaking.

[PenguinPower]

Duh duh duuuuuuuhhh.

Be funnier.

[PenguinPower]

Will use the Eraser at your discretion, boss.

Don't do that. I already want you gone for previous lies.

[PenguinPower]

Hmm...debating full claiming.

Would help overall I think.

[PenguinPower]

The duck bet me that I couldn't get you lynched before N5.

[PenguinPower]

Conspiring with the Co-Mod is against the rules.

Commencing Mod Kill procedures now.

Also I bet 20 Australian dollars with Ducky that I'd make it too night 5 after I claimed Traitor like day 1... And I'm nearly there.

Hmm...seems like he played us both.

[PenguinPower]

Holy...

[PenguinPower]

To be clear for the mechanical people: there are no actual bets with mods/production assistants in regard to the game.

That would be an outside influence and explicitly against site rules.

[PenguinPower]

So, what's your reasoning on me being scum? Or is that just posturing because you're mad at me for being mad at you for being stupid?

I have a somewhat mechanical reason that's not a true guilty - so, as you said, it can wait for tomorrow.

[PenguinPower]

Cool. Do you agree that Drewva's towncase on Xtox was suckish?

I have mixed feelings on it. It's not a good towncase, but I don't like yours either.

[PenguinPower]

Do you disagree that resolving whether the townreads there are valid is a priority?

Over sorting BEF/NM...yes. Why are those townreads a priority? Because S_S claimed a town invest on him?

[PenguinPower]

Not unlike the two disloyals on EJ.

[PenguinPower]

What's the scum motive to claiming an innocent on someone when there's a scum faking a guilty result on them?

Scum was up for a lynch for not voting the SS and it creates distance.

[PenguinPower]

Gamma Emerald
Xtoxm
BrightEyedFish
Nev and Max
RCEnigma
Nero Cain

Those are the names I'm interested in sorting now.

You're scumreading BEF and N&M. Is your reasoning on BEF similar to mine? Is there a reason for the N&M you're willing to share?

I'm willing to sort anyone there except Gamma and Nero atm.

I have no additional reason to scumread N&M beyond my thoughts on their play in this thread (and the BOONus room).

[PenguinPower]

I'm willing to sort anyone there except Gamma and Nero atm.

What does it mean to be not willing to sort someone?

It was a direct response to his list...it means I town read them atm.

[PenguinPower]

Yes, I know it's a response to the list.
So you town read them -- does that mean it's unimportant to you how others read them?

No? I was directly asked who I was interested in sorting from a list...I answered.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: N&M

[PenguinPower]

So, who did you save and on which nights?

We haven't used our charge yet.

[PenguinPower]

Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?

You haven't been.

[PenguinPower]

#PressXtoDoubt

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[PenguinPower]

He was on borrowed time for not hammering...makes sense imo.

[PenguinPower]

But if your on borrowed time, you claim a guilty on a player that you NEED dead. Hell, I would have died on my own for the shit I pulled, but he 1 v 1'd me.

Why wouldn't he also push someone elsa?

Because for some reason you should die but don't.

Or you're scum and he knew you were going to be vigged and protected you.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[PenguinPower]

Guess "and" would work there too.

[PenguinPower]

Then it's the former.

[PenguinPower]

Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much.

Really?

Because I can point to an example of you caring quite a bit about 24 hours ago.

[PenguinPower]

solid pagetop, PP

5/7.

[PenguinPower]

You're delusional if you really believe I tried to make it a thing.

You inserted yourself in a conversation between me and Jingle where I said you were in my scum pool. If you didn't care about my read, or people scum reading you, you would have said anything.

[PenguinPower]

^
wouldn't have said

[PenguinPower]

Ok.

Bowing out because you can't refute.

Nice.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...you don't care if you're scum read now.

I get it.

[PenguinPower]

You have confbiased me into Oblivion man.

I mean...this isn't true, but you gave up trying to show me where you have spent 500 posts not caring about whether or not you were scumread.

[PenguinPower]

Can I be conf!town now?

No.

[PenguinPower]

Loyal/Loud/Ascetic Inventor

[PenguinPower]

I have.

[PenguinPower]

Hmmm

[PenguinPower]

Nobody will see this page bottom of me admitting I'm still the Traitor planning on murdering the entire scum team.

[PenguinPower]

If everyone else is okay with massclaiming, I'm fine with it.

I'm also fine just lynching N&M so....yeah.

[PenguinPower]

Guess we just lynch N&M then.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...that's right. Let's lynch Elsa first, then N&M.

[PenguinPower]

Guess we just lynch N&M then.

not interested.
macho modifiers exist for a reason and the only other claimed protective is a bunyip (commuter isnt relevant in this context)
if someone else claims protective (dead or alive) i'll consider it

Wasn't really asking you...

[PenguinPower]

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

Oh, sorry. I meant no.

[PenguinPower]

Wait, no. I meant yes.

[PenguinPower]

Vote count 5.xx

N&M -- DrewVa, PP
BEF --
Elsa -- Nero

[PenguinPower]

I kinda just want to go with the massclaim because we aren't really agreeing on anything...don't care where I am in the order.

[PenguinPower]

This is Day 5....

Day 5 has begun!!

Day 5 Representatives

These 4 people will be responsible for ending the day phase. They just have to vote to end the day. When 3 of the 4 of them do, the day will end, or whenever the countdown times out. Plurality Lynch Rule applies, meaning whoever has the most votes at the end of the day, will be the lynch. You will vote within your private thread. Good luck, and have fun.

PenguinPower
Jingle
DrewVa
Gamma Emerald

(expired on 2019-02-20 18:00:00) on February 20th, 2019.

[PenguinPower]

i thought that was some really weird reaction test that i wasn't sure what you were testing haha

Thoughts on a massclaim?

[PenguinPower]

Would someone pick the mass claim order?

PenguinPower
BEF
Gamma
Nero
Xtoxmaxmox
Creature
Dave

I'm good with this.

[PenguinPower]

I mean...me too, but it doesn't seem like there's a lot of support for that. There doesn't seem to be a lot of support for any lynch as far as I can tell.

[PenguinPower]

I think N&M and CD were day reps after the N2 Boonus room, but N&M lost and CD and I won.

p-edit

Yep.

[PenguinPower]

Not until everyone agrees to it.

[PenguinPower]

havent caught up yet but i oppose massclaim
we are no where near lylo and there is no need for it
scum also lost their rolecop on d1 and are likely struggling for info rn, massclaim benefits scum more than town

[PenguinPower]

Just checked and I'm not sure that I've heard that anyone else on Una's list going to participate (except maybe creature?), and I'm not going to claim unless they are willing to participate.

[PenguinPower]

Unanimous agreement is a myth.

Also....no....

[PenguinPower]

Wouldn’t that be Thanos?

[PenguinPower]

^
Re: pseudoconftown

[PenguinPower]

It’s in boon’s thread in MD. Vanilla Cop that grants BP to vanilla invests.

[PenguinPower]

Una N2.

[PenguinPower]

I'm just going to say what I said in my neighborhood with DrewVa and then catch up more when I get to work:

So, yeah, I'm a 1-shot Fruit Vendor. Sounds like an incredibly boring role. Except, Night 1 I was made Loyal and given a +1 charge (I'm assuming from profii who picked up on my crumbing). On Night 2, I sent a piece of fruit to TLK. I also won the BOONus round and chose 1-shot Neighborizer as my prize.

So, D3 I asked TLK if he got my gift (not wanting to out what it was specifically because then he could have just said "Sure, I got a piece of fruit"), and when he was hesitating I thought he was trying to make up an educated guess. When he said he got sticky fruit (note: that is different from a regular piece of fruit; and, potentially also why profii made him verify it was "sticky fruit") I thought he was guessing since that was in the game and did not actually receive a piece of fruit from me. So...I thought he was scum.

Last night, I used my loyal 1-shot neighborizer on [DrewVa], and now [she] [is] confirmed town to me.

[PenguinPower]

Are you holding the second shot?

No.

[PenguinPower]

Follow up question, why?

Why what?

[PenguinPower]

I'm considering TLK may have confused fruit with SF, have to check.

No..both profii and I clarified this with him.

[PenguinPower]

I asked and he specifically said it applied to my neighborizer shot.

[PenguinPower]

Are you holding the second shot?

No.

Then night 3 you sent another fruit out? Gifts don't take a charge from your role ability do they?

Yes. I sent another fruit.

[PenguinPower]

No additional inno, penguin sent to jingle n3 and he said he commuted when we pressed on why he wasn't claiming fruit.

-d

No wait n4

N1: ? (Receives loyal from profi)
N2: fruit to tlk
N3: hood drewva
N4: fruit jingle

-d

Correct, and I still have at least one more shot. I will let DrewVa know where I send that tonight.

[PenguinPower]

Last night, I used my loyal 1-shot neighborizer on [DrewVa], and now [she] [is] confirmed town to me.

Last night he neighborized. Does PP have multitasking?

Sorry, I neighorbized night 3. That was a paraphrase from the neighborhood and I didn’t update that. No multitasking.

[PenguinPower]

Is Boon telling people they are gifted or whatever in PMs or confessional threads?

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not actually sure creat is weak but I thought I remembered someone giving him that.

He claimed ascetic.

[PenguinPower]

Not necessarily...but I don't know why scum!profii would loyalize town!pp.

[PenguinPower]

TLK was a newbie and i can see him assuming SF/regular fruit are the same thing

Spoiler: Unlikely.

If that wasn't you, I didn't get any other notifications in my confessional other than receiving a sticky fruit.

Bruh, patience. Just imagine for a sec that I have something else going on besides reading this forum.

Yeah, it was a tasty fruit. But it left a tacky residue on my palms...

What would you like me to do with it? I have some ideas but I'd like your input. I do like that you are so openly outing yourself as the giver though. I was playing coy at first so that you would admit it yourself, so thank you for doing so and thank you for the snack.

Are you crumbing that PP (well, ENG I guess) was the person you gifted the vig shot to N1?

If this was true and PP was trying to vig me last night, I'd be dead. Sticky fruit doesn't prevent death. Only everything else.

Actually scratch that, scum couldve given him one and then just not say anything.

My current theory.

TLk just to be absolutely right

Can you just double confirm you got a sticky fruit please?

I received a sticky fruit on N2.

I received a sticky fruit on N2.

I'm not well versed in NAR things but would the person who received the sticky fruit be blocked from receiving any other "gifts"? I ask because I'm wondering if that's why TLK didn't get PP's gift or is there some other mechanic at play?

That is literally all that sticky fruit does. Have you just been spewing "scum!tlk" without knowing how the fruit works? Because that's.... Just... Hasty....

[PenguinPower]

Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.

[PenguinPower]

Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.

If you are scum then your loyal would have worked on scum!drew

I obviously meant from the perspective that I'm town because...ya know...I know I'm town.

Wow...

[PenguinPower]

2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?

BEF gave you fruit N1. Knowing this, and that you said you would send it to your loyal guy N2, S_S jailed you and BEF gave TLK fruit as a setup.

That's how I read it.

[PenguinPower]

Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.

Ok. Permit me to ask some questions to get context.

You're a fruit vendor. Correct?
Where did the neighbor shot come from?
Did it come with a loyal rider?
You started the hood n4?

- Yes.
- BOONus round N2
- No. I receive loyal modifier N1.
- No. I started the hood N3.

[PenguinPower]

2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?

BEF gave you fruit N1. Knowing this, and that you said you would send it to your loyal guy N2, S_S jailed you and BEF gave TLK fruit as a setup.

That's how I read it.

This would all depend on BEF having more than 1 shot though, right?

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

And your chain of events makes things look worse for you, because you were the one who prompted tlk to out his gift.

Because I sent him fruit N2 after being loyalized and I wanted to see if I got a guilty or not.

Like...did you read my explanation that I posted earlier today?

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Phew. Glad I guessed what the mod was going to say about that when dreaming up my plan.

[PenguinPower]

Why profii over BEF?

Like even reading your previous two posts in isolation that was a weird vote...

[PenguinPower]

I'm mean...it's the opposite for me. profii was open about his role from the beginning...possibly why BEF wasn't but is now that we were starting to massclaim?

Ahh screw it. I don't need a mass claim right now, but I will go ahead and claim my role since I seem to be getting closer to the chopping block.

I also agree with Jingle that Sticky Fruit Vendor makes more sense as scum aligned.

[PenguinPower]

You earned that $20

[PenguinPower]

I already said I asked...jesus.

I asked and he specifically said it applied to my neighborizer shot.

[PenguinPower]

So BEF lied about being 1 shot? Why give it to town at all?

profii claimed D1 so making him ascetic would have cast suspicion on him if town tried to investigate?

Maybe scum dreamed up a plan to get TLK lynched and profii was just a cog in it?

[PenguinPower]

So the question is how did the fruit get from prof to tlk?

Redirected or 2nd-shot.

2nd shot seems more likely given outed roles.

[PenguinPower]

Welp, I don't have the loud modifier.

Especially now. Creature not getting loud points to profii been jailed.

[PenguinPower]

I'm in horror of my grammar right there.

[PenguinPower]

Then we are back to looking at winners for n1 and n2 and we follow the chain of custody.

wut?

How do you get to that conclusion?

[PenguinPower]

It's strange that I remember getting a PM about that but it now completely disappeared from my inbox and confessional and I don't have loud modifier.

I doubt someone erased your PMs or posts...

[PenguinPower]

Unless you are saying that BEF is lying about being 1 shot as well, he would have had to gain a shot from someone.

If profii was blocked N2 (which creature not getting loud indicates), the only way for TLK to get sticky fruit is from the BEF.

Or a redirector, which we established is unlikely given outed roles.

[PenguinPower]

SO again, do you think that BEF is lying about being 1 shot?

Given current info...yes.

[PenguinPower]

If you want to lynch BEF...yes.

[PenguinPower]

If you want to lynch BEF...yes.

Ok, lets play devils advocate. We lynch BEF and he flips town. Where do we go?

The rest of the slots need to claim if variant. If not, then profii because there can only be three variant roles and a town!BEF flip and my clear on DrewVa mean that the only explanation for TLK getting the sticky fruit is that profii lied about sending it to me and sent it to TLK instead.

I don't see why scum!profii loyalizes me and then lies about making Creature loud and sending me sticky fruit, but that would be the only explanation.

[PenguinPower]

Doesn't seem like everyone else has?

[PenguinPower]

@DVa, aren’t you mixing up Creature with Una? - who RCE claimed to be a vanilla?

Profii sent loud to Creature, ascetic to Una.

[PenguinPower]

Then why did you even ask me that question?

And I disagree with Profii going first...perhaps you should read the reasoning as to why.

[PenguinPower]

Ok, lets play devils advocate. We lynch BEF and he flips town. Where do we go?

If not, then profii

If this is 1v1 then of course profii dies tomorrow...

I think there is ample reason to go for profii first though.

[PenguinPower]

The person with the most beneficial scum role with the least town arguments...

in before N&M claims they wanted BEF lynched tomorrow after he flips scum...

[PenguinPower]

Grammar alludes me today for some reason.

"In before N&M claims tomorrow they wanted BEF lynched after he (BEF) flips scum"

alluding to your play with S_S and Elsa.

[PenguinPower]

We also dont really know what profii is. Hell, i could have listed the modifiers scum won in the first night and said his role was to give those out. People who get them dont know where they come from, so any of the people could have sent them. And now creature is saying he didnt get one...

Someone else is free to claim they sent me loyal or Una ascetic. No one else has, so simplicity should take precedent.

Who won loyal N1? Who has an actual plausible story for why they sent it to me?

[PenguinPower]

I don't disagree with you on Elsa...but you were calling S_S town over Elsa the entire time and were wrong...soo......

[PenguinPower]

He gave it to two people who got it...

Dude...

[PenguinPower]

I don't disagree with you on Elsa...but you were calling S_S town over Elsa the entire time and were wrong...soo......

Show me. My recollection is that both had to die.

Yes...you said both should die. But you defended S_S and claimed he was more town...similar to what you are doing here (bolded town callouts):

Spoiler: Here ya go

Still rather have EJ flip then SS

Pointing out that Elsa also has lied is gross? You're the one pointing out that S_S already lied. Is what's good for the gander not good for the goose?

I suppose we are just going to have to see things differently here. You are vilifying S_S for lying in such a way that would trap Elsa. Elsa has lied multiple times in this game and you hand wave that away.

Which is more gross?

I believed his claim. But I also figured that with all the people calling for his head he'd be lynched at some point, and I wanted to take advantage of that.

Every time I try to make sense of the lynch and it's voting I keep coming back town side on SS and scum on Elsa for motivation.

Hell, they could both be scum and this is one hell of a power play from them both...

I think you are conveniently ignoring the fact that your action is just as complicit in the death of Mc. And considering the reasoning behind S_S's actions were premeditated and has town intent where your action is passive and has a high scum equity to it, it leads me to see you as nothing but opportunistic scum.

Fun quote given what you are saying today:

If he is telling the truth we lynch scum in you. If he is lying he dies tomorrow.

BONUS QUOTE:

Hmm, didn't know I was a day rep

townclearing for Creature, or no?

interestingly, ej has n&m and ss as scum.
n&m has creat as tr.

Incredible.

~ P

[PenguinPower]

Dude...

And seriously, will you stop with this shit? Its not like im misunderstanding a simple fucking thing here. This game is complicated as fuck and youre acting like im fucking stupid for having a different view point here.

I will not.

[PenguinPower]

Not sure what any of this does to support your point that I wanted 1 before the other but thought that both were scum... we havent switched our read on elsa, and she hasnt done anything to change my opinion. And yeah, if we lynched elsa and she flipped town I would have wanted to lynch SS the next day. Thanks for pointing out what ive been trying to tell you. Do you get it now?

Are you kidding me? You called S_S's play town indicative while pushing Elsa...

You aren't taking a stance...you're fence sitting - except you actually said S_S's play was town indicative

Like....

[PenguinPower]

Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?

Are you serious with this?

First you associate me with Nazism. You're getting a bit out of control.

[PenguinPower]

Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?

Are you serious with this?

First you associate me with Nazism. You're getting a bit out of control.

The plan is straight out of the Authoritarian handbook. Silence those who speak the truth against those who have power.

And when did i call you a nazi?

You special? Are the untermenschen not supposed to make eye contact much less speak to you?

[PenguinPower]

This argument bores me. Can we go ahead and lynch BEF yet?

Half of me wants to make a snide remark. The other half agrees with you.

[PenguinPower]

Let's chill on references to mental health and everything else...that would be cool.

[PenguinPower]

Let's just lynch BEF and move on.

[PenguinPower]

Probably would be a good idea since it was pretty well thought out.

[PenguinPower]

So am I obvtown yet? Or do I have to lynch 4 scum first?

At least 3, then we can talk.

[PenguinPower]

Why don’t y’all take a 48 hour break from the thread and calm down?

^
Come on...

[PenguinPower]

I'll vote to end the day once I know BEF has a plurality.

My vote is there. So is DrewVa's.

[PenguinPower]

Joat would not be a variant if it were stated as joat and not inventor.

Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.

Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?

exactly - when i was claiming on day 1 it occurred to me my role wasn't on the list so i asked boon why and he said there can be variants.

so i am one - if we get too many variant claims we become a lynch pool immediately (including me obvs)

[PenguinPower]

BEF first pls.

[PenguinPower]

I suggest you read. It's been explained quite in depth.

[PenguinPower]

Could you link atleast? I'm on mobile and having class.

8817 is a good summary.

p-edit

Yeah...that too.

[PenguinPower]

Then vote BEF.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't replace in.

[PenguinPower]

I wouldn't ask. If the mod made a mistake, he'll apologize at the end of the game. Trying to clarify a mistake mid-game could further damage the game.

That's assuming a mistake happened at all.

[PenguinPower]

How will my mislynch solve anything?

How do we know Profil isn’t?

I don’t know if it is one but finding out whether Profil did in fact send Creature a LOUD n2, will definitely help, determine that.

But if Profil is scum, how does he send Penguin a LOYAL, so your lynch still makes way more sense than Profil’s.

Can profii only send loyals to the same alignment as himself?

I think so, isn’t that what that modifier means: same alignment as your own?

So, for Profil to be lying about that, it also would have to mean that both Penguin and us are also lying about that and we know our alignment, so, I don’t see how Profil could be lying.

Tin foil: maybe TLK did WIFOM us, like Xtoxm is saying? I dunno.

I don't think profii was loyal. He could send the modifiers to whomever he wanted.

[PenguinPower]

Hey profii, can you answer these:

-What was his reasoning in choosing to use his ascetic shot at all? Why would he make Una ascetic? How was that a pro-town decision?
-Why did he not use his neighborhood shot last night? Wouldn't he want to prove that the shot was real, given that it was given to him by scum?
-Why has he not been more forthcoming about the timing of his neighborhood with Nero, given the timing of Nero's neighborhood shot is significant for understand who possibly fed scum +1 charges n1?

[PenguinPower]

At the time I was prettty sure TLK made a mistake but couldn’t push it too hard for fear of putting you in jeopardy but my gut feeling is I was right now - I bet he got regular fruit

I don't think so. He was pretty adamant about it being sticky.

[PenguinPower]

Or a PP lynch could solve like this in one go:

PP-Profii-Creature-Me

[PenguinPower]

I don't think people will change their minds so it seems I'm a goner.

I wish I had more dying words that could help out. I'll just say it again so you know.

I am a Town 1-shot Sticky Fruit Vendor.
I used that 1 shot on profii N1.
I never received any gifts or anything.

I think there is scum in here:
PP, profii, DrewVa, Jingle, EJ, Creature

For someone who was resigned to being lynched you are throwing everything you have to try and get anyone else lynched.

[PenguinPower]

Sinking ship.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: End the day

[PenguinPower]

I hear that penguins like fish.

[PenguinPower]

I hear that penguins like fish.

Try and eat us, we are like that fish that sinks it's hooks into the tongue of another fish and takes over it's life.

[PenguinPower]

Nope. We're definitely lynching in you/profii today. None of the other associations are strong enough to chain lynches.

Nice try tho.

Yeah the flail from BEF is insane

As opposed to profii who has been mostly absent from the thread...

Which has already been explained as a site wide thing.

[PenguinPower]

I’m on mobile. I’m so horrible for missing something.

[PenguinPower]

Ok
Should I just end the day now? I think my vote would hammer it

DrewVa doesn’t want to until Profii answers, but I’m ok with it. I’m impatient.

[PenguinPower]

Profii as scum doesn't have a nightly impact but Bef scum does.

How do you know that profii has no ability at night? If he is scum then he could have easily lied.

Look. I get that we are lynching BEF today. What I don't like is bringing up what I feel are valid points that show a better lynch somewhere else, imo, and getting shit on because of it. I get that I can be wrong, but to handwave me away because I see things differently is disgusting.

PP, I love when you respond to posts 2 and 3 out of 3 while ignoring post 1. It's especially fun when ignoring post 1 of that set proves my point.

:handwave:

[PenguinPower]

Umm...I missed a post that didn't really mean much...you missed entire concepts. Same thing...

If you're town, stop playing the "woe is me" card. It's scummy.

If I find out you're town, I'll do what I always do when I'm wrong. Reassess.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

They tried tbf.

[PenguinPower]

I don't understand what you are looking for...

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: BEF

[PenguinPower]

I'd like the person I fruited to claim it please.

[PenguinPower]

Last night I protected BEF because I figured the thing that happened probably made him town.

You're going to need to explain this because I see it as confirming them as scum.

[PenguinPower]

We're not ending the day until my fruited person claims it. But, yeah, then we're lynch BEF.

[PenguinPower]

Dave is town.

We can lynch BEF now.

[PenguinPower]

You are scum because of end of day yesterday. I just wanted to confirm Dave before lynching you.

[PenguinPower]

Didn't Creature and someone elsa target me with a relative clear night 3? I could swear it happened. The bonuses not being apart of the flip makes this hard.

Creature and Dave did...both who happen to be conf!town now.

[PenguinPower]

Dunno. I'm a bit tired today.
But BlurredEnigmaFish has to die today.
If for nothing else, then at least for the Venge-claim.

If we were lynching based off oy principals and morals then EJ would have been lynched 3 times already.

We're lynching based on it's highly unlikely that yesterday's EOD happens with you as town.

[PenguinPower]

I think they found my vengeful fake claim on DrewVa an opportune time and they jumped on it quickly.

Why? Scum would know that you wouldn't flip, and without your flip your "vengeful claim" wouldn't activate. Makes zero sense.

[PenguinPower]

profii is already confscum now based on DrewVa/Creature town flip and PP's conftown.

How?

Why does scum!profii make me loyal?

[PenguinPower]

profii is already confscum now based on DrewVa/Creature town flip and PP's conftown.

How?

Why does scum!profii make me loyal?

why does scum!me send town!profii sticky fruit?

That's not an answer to my question.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...so you've come around and it's now best to flip BEF first...

[PenguinPower]

It was D3. I looked into that earlier.

[PenguinPower]

Scum used dayvig to prevent BEF lynch and kill DrewVa.

Dave is conf!town.

[PenguinPower]

Well 99% conf!town.

[PenguinPower]

We're in a closed Boon setup. I'm not going to say anything with 100% certainty, but I'm loyal and he received fruit so he's as close as it comes.

[PenguinPower]

The level of "give up" is high.

[PenguinPower]

I am assuming it dropped to 99% because PP and profii's conftown hang on the fact that I will flip scum.
After I flip town, profii will be confscum and subsequently PP. Which will throw doubt on dave's conftown.

Considering I qualified it right after...no.

[PenguinPower]

Dave claim if you something have to claim. I'm voting to end the day when I wake up in the morning. BEF is just verbal diarrheaing like he did yesterday.