Micro 844: Geriatric Half Mast Nightless [Endgame]

[no lunch]

If this flips town I assume we may proceed as we were before

[no lunch]

@nl im surprised that you forgot i was in the game considering I just conversed with you about oka

Did we? Sorry.
There goes the tell I mentioned.

[Slaxx]

You only need to townreads to win the game, theoretically. Still think U2 is also town.

[u r a person 2]

we're not lynching oka today.

Why not?

and then i responded and you were like oh gee i didn't think about that spewing oka but those quotes were on another page so i didnt get em

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.9

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Aubrey (3):

Shoshin 383, u r a person 2 417, no lunch 581

Shoshin (3):

Gamma Emerald 571, OkaPoka 576, Slaxx 596

Slaxx (2):

brassherald 472, Aubrey 559

Not voting (0):

With 8 alive, it’s 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-22 04:09:59).

[u r a person 2]

it occurs to me that I originally town read shoshin for yelling at a town read of hers.

I said at the time that it was never SvT

but that town read she yelled at was maestro...

someone give me the scum case on shoshin. ill read her iso tomorrow but gimme gimme

[Slaxx]

Think I’m near my limit but can’t be fucked to check

U2/Gamma are town now, that’s the new block.
Oka still pretty town.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Shoshin
L-1 leggo!

[u r a person 2]

been at work all day.

no one wants to case shoshin?

[Slaxx]

been at work all day.

no one wants to case shoshin?

Not really.

She just seemed really set on setting up lynches and her/NLs vote on Oka after I started pushing maestro looked bad, particularly because there was already a couple votes on him.

[Slaxx]

Votes on Maestro, not Oka. Like there was a Maestro wagon, I voted Maestro, said I scumread Oka and Maestro, and both NL and Shosh vote Oka instead.

[u r a person 2]

okay I wrote this and I just saved a draft and wasn't going to post it because it felt really conspiracy theory esque - but then you mentioned the oka votes, and I had forgotten about those. So here it is. I'm still working through Shoshin's ISO since no one will do it for me =/

Which i think is kind of odd, btw

I'm never lynching Brass. And I'm pretty sure NL isn't lynching Brass either. So I'm pretty sure you need to give up on that mislynch, Maestro.

this is super tin foil hat-y but I need it off of my chest

This is the post that I originally town read shoshin for because I didn't think it was ever SvT. Knowing that Maestro was scum, I've been rereading it. In a world where this is SvS, here's the narrative.

Shoshin and her partner are both active in the scum PT over the first couple of days of the game, and maestro is mia. Maestro comes into the thread pushing brass which conflicts with her and her partner's plan in some way. Or there is some other sort of disagreement in the scum pt. Either way, that provokes shoshin to chide her partner in the main thread, as quoted above. Even more brazen, perhaps she mentions the third partner, NL, in the same post. Later, maestro, pissed b/c of drama in the scum pt and because he's getting double bussed, self hammers to stop NL from getting the town cred.

It feels like a conspiracy, but the emotion in this quote feels out of place here, too. And Maestro was clearly in a bad mood at the time he hammered.

[Slaxx]

Actually that quote is kind of telling.

If she’s saying that Maestro is pushing a mislynch she definitely should have been voting him when I cased him. Looks like convincing distancing.

[Slaxx]

Not completely for sure if I buy NL scum but if Shosh is scum she’s probably flag bearer anyway so it might not matter.

[Slaxx]

If Cheeky's town, scum Maestro wants to let the lynch happen without getting flak for pushing it so he's happy to stay null on Cheeky while letting others take the fault.

If Cheeky's scum, scum Maestro wants to get some town credit from her lynch instead of sitting on the sidelines. There's no way scum Cheeky isn't getting bussed at this point because she's inevitably getting lynched in this game.

Also, by saying this, I'm probably screwing with the dynamics a little bit because scum are going to become less likely to bus after reading this. But that's okay at this point since we're only missing reactions from Oka/Slimer.

This also looks bad because like two pages later she votes Oka when I replace in.

[u r a person 2]

if there isn't scum between Cheeky and Shoshin I'll retire. handing out townreads everywhere in a game where 1/3 of the list is scum, is hilarious.

You might be right about Cheeky. Her townreads (other than me) are terrible.

I'm disappointed you lob me in with her. My reads look nothing like hers, and it's not scummy for me to townread players for towny behaviors, regardless of town/scum ratio. I'm especially disappointed that you're stoking paranoia about me in the current gamestate when I've already got some votes on me. If you let me get mislynched, you might want to consider retirement even if Cheeky flips scum.

more to stroke that paranoia

on the other hand, shoshin did make a good point about NL calling out brass' "townslip" which i still think is a decent reason to town read NL, so I'm really going back and forth here

[u r a person 2]

Cheeky, your PoE is nonsense.
If you're town, stop tunnelling and try again and I'll consider engaging with you.

Oka isn't remotely towny. Slimer isn't remotely towny. Maestro has this unspoken giggle in all of his posts which I can't townread at all. URAP2 is town. Shoshin could go either way but I am not inclined to scumread her today.

I'm not even sure I scumread you anymore. I support a policy lynch on you because you're steering the thread to an antitown extent and making this a really woeful environment.

NL, the fact that our reads are aligning should tell you that I'm probably town here. Also, see the post above: I never locktown Brass in this setup if I'm scum. I think this game will go a lot better if you can townread me because we're close to solving it and it'll be really annoying if you end up mislynching me when we can easily win this by lynching outside the obvious townies (Brass, you, me, U2).

man i think i can actually see this

[Slaxx]

UNVOTE:

NL, U2, I'm doubting Maestro as town. Thoughts? I don't understand how town ever makes 258.

This is after that post where you said Maestro was keeping his options open on either wagon. Both Shoshin and my slot were both L-2. He “hurts” Shoshin but doesn’t vote there, then Shoshin maybe thinks it was an obvious distancing attempt and goes for the bus?

[Slaxx]

Yes not that much later in the game she’s on Oka even though there’s a good Maestro wagons

Yeah. I fell for the distancing the first time, I think this is probably correct.

[northsidegal]

Prodding Shoshin.

[Slaxx]

Prodding Shoshin.

^Also the complete activity drop off after day 1. I’d expect town to be more motivated.

Could be confounding irl stuff but it doesn’t help.

[u r a person 2]

Shoshin has been quite active on MS over the past week, btw.

The below spoiler is the CT wagon starting at L-2, right after that Maestro Quote you remarked on. First NL jumps off to oka, then I ask him to jump back on so he does. Then it goes to l-1 and shoshin jumps off to consider maestro.

So what's the theory? 2 scum on CT wagon when the wagon starts actually looking like it is going to turn into a lynch. Does maestro first decline to join the wagon, followed by scum!2 NL trying to jump off the wagon, followed by scum!shoshin jumping off the wagon as they all try to distance themselves from a mislynch? A mislynch that could easily be explained away by CT's play?

Spoiler: cheeky teeky wagon

My gut is telling me to just lynch Oka.

VOTE: OkaPoka
No harm in trying.

@NL
I really think we should flip cheeky. I think she's a wolf here, and I can't really envision what the path looks like to me town reading her after watching cheeky calling me 100% scum, then fabricating that meta claim, then such a huge turn around but still being cagey about giving a readlist (as town, why?)

I really don't want cheeky to make it to lylo, and there are no night actions

And aubrey's right, there is a great deal to be gleaned from her flipping in either direction

so I'd rather flip cheeky earlier so we can start digging into that info faster.

I'm with you on oka looking scummy, though. Can we look deeper there on d2?

Only because I like you.
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I’m expecting Bass to rejoin.

VOTE: CT

@brass you indicated a willingness to vote cheeky earlier. What do you say we start getting ready to close the deal?

btw @all I do want to give slimer, maestro more time to speak before ending the day

P.edit im pretty sure that's l-1?

UNVOTE:

NL, U2, I'm doubting Maestro as town. Thoughts? I don't understand how town ever makes 258.

[u r a person 2]

spent a good deal of time looking through vote counts

I think I'm good with where my vote is rn

[northsidegal]

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[northsidegal]

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