Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Kokichi Oma]

I didnt even remember I signed up for this game till I saw the role PM.

[Kokichi Oma]

Wait, can we infer that MariaR is town from her quest? Since mafia would already be in a PT.

VOTE: mutant

Why arent you more skeptical?

[Kokichi Oma]

talking about things and avoiding reading/rvs...

She does this as scum and town.

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah nk15 post was bad. But lets not lynch yet. We should do a mini game today

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh, and I am a Miller.

You're an eternal miller

[Kokichi Oma]

Wait do you guys have like roles? I just have a flavor wtf

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh ok. Nvm. You guys should rig the mini game so I win.

[Kokichi Oma]

If I win the mini game, I can unlock a person's 2nd role PM for them. So I can unlock whoever we all think is towniest. Sound good?

[Kokichi Oma]

If I win the mini game, I can unlock a person's 2nd role PM for them. So I can unlock whoever we all think is towniest. Sound good?

That only works if you win twice
The first time you win you unlock your own role
Unless you somehow just got no roles at all, which is kinda sketchy.

No I automatically unlock their 2nd role PM. I just need to win 1

[Kokichi Oma]

Maria for once I townread you. I swearzies I'm not scum

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh gosh what if Kokichi went for the easy pick and that became his normal, or possibly worse his quest role

Idr why I picked what I picked. But I can tell you my flavor.

[Kokichi Oma]

I think Varsoon’s flavor is mastina

Rofl funniest post I've seen

[Kokichi Oma]

I think nk15 is scum for reasons mentioned. Mutant im iffy on.

[Kokichi Oma]

Mod please spoiler that varsoon post wall and quote

[Kokichi Oma]

So if I win the mini game. Whose 2nd role PM does everyone want me to unlock

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh gosh what if Kokichi went for the easy pick and that became his normal, or possibly worse his quest role

Idr why I picked what I picked. But I can tell you my flavor.

Did you pick yourself

No. What's the fun in that. I like games

[Kokichi Oma]

So if I win the mini game. Whose 2nd role PM does everyone want me to unlock

So um, why are we selecting Mutant/Varsoon for unlocking upon Kokichi winning a minigame?

I'm fine with varsoon. Any suggestions?

[Kokichi Oma]

@Kokichi: You're SURE your role lets you unlock a second person on the FIRST minigame win?

Yes. 100% sure.

[Kokichi Oma]

We cant read each other

[Kokichi Oma]

@Kokichi: You're SURE your role lets you unlock a second person on the FIRST minigame win?

Yes. 100% sure.

So when you win a minigame, you will unlock your own minigame role, AND someone else's minigame role?

Not to beat a dead horse but I cant see that you've stated this explicitly.

Yes

[Kokichi Oma]

I am going to continue to ignore questions.

Whose 2nd role should I unlock

[Kokichi Oma]

So are we all in agreement I should win so I can unlock someone who we TR role?

[Kokichi Oma]

Which is why im.asking for a vote on who is towniest.

[Kokichi Oma]

Btw I forgot to mention. If I win a 2nd time I can unlock TWO more peoples roles.

[Kokichi Oma]

So one win I unlock mine and someone elses. 2nd win I unlock 2 other peoples roles.

[Kokichi Oma]

Lol you guys are funny

[Kokichi Oma]

So who is against me winning besides scum

[Kokichi Oma]

is the winner even going to be announced?

If the winner is going to be announced maybe we should let Kokichi win, vote HEAL: for who we want to unlock and if they aren't unlocked we lynch Kokichi.

If someone else wins as well we probably should lynch them in this model.

Even if Kokichi is scum, in a Scavanger hunt I suppose scum already have the upperhand anyway, the odds that they're going to be winning are pretty high.

But oh well, dunno. I'm fine either way tbh, I just want to lynch scum.

I'm good with this

[Kokichi Oma]

I love being the center of attention.

[Kokichi Oma]

Starting in 8 hours is rough. I wont be awake for that.

[Kokichi Oma]

Really should've given everyone 24 hours and then whoever, at the end of that, had 40, won.
And if there were multiple 40's, then whoever had 40 CORRECT
and if multiple 40's were CORRECT, leave it to either a judge of quality of entry or a random roll.

Yeah. No more time related games, that's unfair to some people.

[Kokichi Oma]

@mod is it one mini game a day. Or can multiple happen in a day.

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't want to tell people too much

But because people are somewhat disheartened by that one, I will say that...



The next minigame will begin in (expired on 2018-12-09 10:00:00).

We don't lynch till after this.

[Kokichi Oma]

I sure HOPE it's a LUCK minigame.

[Kokichi Oma]

We arent lynching until I win a mini game

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm just waiting for the next mini game

[Kokichi Oma]

Mini game when

[Kokichi Oma]

Give us luck mini games

[Kokichi Oma]

Still not luck based

[Kokichi Oma]

@mod would you consider this luck based

[Kokichi Oma]

wtf unvote, fire. we need to do the mini game first

[Kokichi Oma]

Announce the winner

[Kokichi Oma]

This is a thing.

[Kokichi Oma]

I'll be back when varsoon and rc stop going back and forth

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: nico

[Kokichi Oma]

This is always a good day 1 lynch

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't know, but a scum flip by nico would be good. Considering she hasn't posted much, she could be scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

she doesnt post much as scum

[Kokichi Oma]

MariaR and Kokichi are suspects rn
VOTE: MariaR
I feel like Kokichi is a better vote but I am aware we’re in the later parts of the day so voting where support exists is a better idea.

honestly this game has been on my backburner. and iirc maria has been VLA for like 3 days.

[Kokichi Oma]

i just remember this is the game where i need to win the mini game to unlock a persons role for them and varsoon vs rc arguing.

[Kokichi Oma]

question as to why do you think i'm a better vote? and why is maria a suspect

[Kokichi Oma]

well if we aren't lynching anyone, when is the next mini game

@mod

do a luck based one u coward

[Kokichi Oma]

i'll be here before end of day. i think we have a day yet. i understand you guys are doing your 1v1 thing. which has taken prob 50 pages on its own

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: nico

Blitz

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi what r ur reads here buddy

Scum is the person I'm voting. Maybe I'll actually read this game now that the 1v1 is over

[Kokichi Oma]

Thanks for helping me out, btw. I am typing this from Federal State Prison. Your bribes have helped a lot and I am now a free citizen again. I shall now refund you for all of your troubles.

LMFAO. This is gold. Preserve this forever

[Kokichi Oma]

Did you forget that I can unlock abilities. Lynching me at night when I can confirm my claim is the stupidest suggestion I've ever seen

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: nk15

[Kokichi Oma]

The only thing worse than that suggestion was the self preservation vote by nk15

[Kokichi Oma]

i think the optimal lynch is actually kokichi ftr

I think Kokichi is a solid lynch. It's certainly better than trash wagon and lurker lynch. I personally have my eye on them because he seems to be pretending not to care too much about the game which I've seen him do twice before as scum.

By the way, this is why meta is bad. Cause before it was "kokichi tries hard as scum" now its "kokichi doesnt try hard as scum"

Mutant can you post the links as reference?

[Kokichi Oma]

By the way I wasnt posting first half of the night because one of my roles says I cant do anything at night to unlock it. So i assumed i couldnt talk in night thread. But mod clarified it meant no actions by me. (Even tho i have no actions to do right now. I'm guessing when i unlock my ability from winning a mini game it's a night action.)

[Kokichi Oma]

Well I've been open about unlocking the towniest persons role PM. Even if I was scum it assists town. Considering scum will try to win the games regardless and an important PM could never be unlocked

[Kokichi Oma]

Thus lynching me here is suboptimal. Regardless I'd like the links to the games you were talking about. Not the jester game cause that game was a meme game

[Kokichi Oma]

First game was a troll game. Couldnt even push mislynches and I wanted to look like jester. 2nd I still had a lot of posts that game despite being lynched day 2. But I see why you can think that based on your experience with me. So you're prob town. Can you not see how bad nk15's vote on me was after the nico thing?

[Kokichi Oma]

Well I've been open about unlocking the towniest persons role PM. Even if I was scum it assists town. Considering scum will try to win the games regardless and an important PM could never be unlocked

Unless that "towniest person" happens to be scum or you have something to mitigate this(roleblocker, strongman kill) - that's a bad argument. Or maybe your ability unlocks TWO PM's, then you could open up one scum ability as well while decieving town. I see good possibilities for this role to be in the hands of scum - just as not all town might have only pro-town abilities scum can have pro-town or pro-town

looking

abilities.

Rofl bad posting. I already explained how my ability works and its 100% confirmable.

[Kokichi Oma]

I admit to not reading much of this game because of the varsoon vs rc thing which was annoying as hell. But feel free to tell me to look into something in particular for my view on it @mutant

[Kokichi Oma]

Lynch nk15

[Kokichi Oma]

If it's a luck based mini game, I pretty much will win btw. Which is why I've been waiting for one. Guess who I am

[Kokichi Oma]

There's nothing that points to scum me (or kokichi for that matter) but go nuts.

Its cause you were VLA and I didnt wanna watch rc and varsoon argue for 70 pages

[Kokichi Oma]

Nah fuck it I know what to do

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

In the words of internet scumsucker alex jones, Destroy the child

Why am I scum?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm gonna guess scum was on the wagon that tried to flash lynch me.

[Kokichi Oma]

@mod is this a luck based

[Kokichi Oma]

Fire, I want you to ask yourself how many times you've correctly scumread me. Or read me at all. Then reevaluate your vote.

[Kokichi Oma]

Fire who are your biggest scumreads and townreads?

[Kokichi Oma]

Fire, I want you to ask yourself how many times you've correctly scumread me. Or read me at all. Then reevaluate your vote.

none.

do some townie things and ill reconsider.

I thought my end of night was pretty towny considering I hadn't read 90% of the game.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: kokichi

Why do you scumread me?

[Kokichi Oma]

hi. i'm reasonably confident that there are three scum out of the four of {elbirn, maria, kokichi, nk15}.

i invite any disagreement.

I want to know why? Cause it seems like you just lumped low posters together. You're better than this and not lazy.

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi u didn't read the thread at all or analyze the people who flash lynch u, u just come in here and say "I think someone who was flash lynching me is scum". Like ur either being extremely lazy here or scum. If ur being lazy step up pls cause I haven't seen anything to indicate alignment from u at all.

Yes I did? I didn't read much before last night, but I read all of last night. So why are you assuming I didn't analyze anything?

[Kokichi Oma]

Ugh, we're running out of time.

I dunno, I think that I was slightly townleaning Kokichi earlier because I feel like scum wouldn't ultra focus on the minigames and ignore everything else like he did, but I'm not sure how valid a 'read' that really is. He actively avoided taking a stance on the 1v1 and during tonight he seems to be jumping on the most popular wagons, which I'm not too sure about but it's not necessarily scum motivated? If he really is town and telling the truth though, then we could be lynching a pretty big potential asset, but even if that’s the case, I'm not entirely sure that I'll ever trust him enough to allow him to use his ability without question. I don't think his claim is a lie as it’s so easily provable, but I reckon it's entirely possible that it is a half truth and there's more to it. At the moment my read on him is null at best.

If NK15's strange logic is characteristic of his play regardless of alignment then he's gonna be a pain to sort with any kind of certainty. His push on Nibbui is very interesting though, would scum start a push against a widely townread player? Or rather more importantly, does his push seem genuine? At the point where he started pushing Nibbui, there were already quite a few votes on him, I feel like if he were scum looking to get out of a lynch, he wouldn't decide to go for Nibbui of all people, I think that his push is more likely than not to be genuine.

Ughhhhhhhh I'm taking a stance here I guess, feels bad to just waste Elbirn’s ability.

VOTE: Kokichi

This is a weird post because she states that she's running out of time. Implying that the vote on me is because it's running out of time. Then explains that her read on me is null at best, and nk15 is scummy based on the push she feels like is not genuine. At the point of this vote, NK15 had 6 votes, and if she was serious about being upset about running out of time, I don't see why she would vote me in that moment when I had less votes and she null read me and scumread nk15. I feel this post needs an explanation and I'm surprised no one else pointed it out. NK15 flips scum, this would be my next lynch

[Kokichi Oma]

because if u did u would have a name of someone u think was being scummy for pushing u

i literally just posted 10 mins ago

[Kokichi Oma]

Nibbui, mutantdevle and Chibi I think are all very strongly town based on their own play, and I don't think anyone disagrees. Firebringer I trust that RC was right on. Nicorobin is town. I also think GE is lightly town based on his own play, but I admit that that's a read that I would be categorically likely to be wrong on.

this doesn't explain the scumreads. also why is nico town?

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi this is what i have seen in ur iso so far, tell me what u think is townie or if i got anything wrong:
> you talking about ur role or mechanics [NAI]
> you arguing with someone about meta [NAI]
> you voting but not talking about the reasons you scumread or are voting [NAI]

please tell me what i am missing that is townie or indicative of alignment. Cause I think you not reading or having any thoughts on players or having a thought process that seems to be developing thoughts is scummy

Okay, then what do you think about what i just posted. And I explained the reasons why I thin Nico is scum. She low posts and scum all the time, she did it when I was scum with her. She posts a lot as town and actually has emotion behind the posts.

[Kokichi Oma]

because if u did u would have a name of someone u think was being scummy for pushing u

i literally just posted 10 mins ago

but u just said u read it last night. How do you not have thoughts about it during that night when you thought about it, you can't just post random stuff and saying you have thought about it when u come in here and then say "well i just got here man". like what?

Wut? I'm saying you didn't even give me time to post anything. you just voted me when I came in to post and what I was seeing

[Kokichi Oma]

Nibbui, mutantdevle and Chibi I think are all very strongly town based on their own play, and I don't think anyone disagrees. Firebringer I trust that RC was right on. Nicorobin is town. I also think GE is lightly town based on his own play, but I admit that that's a read that I would be categorically likely to be wrong on.

this doesn't explain the scumreads. also why is nico town?

They're not scumreads, it's a PoE pool. Not to imply that I don't think any of you are scum – I do.

Why is nico town?

[Kokichi Oma]

Furthermore, what do you think about the post I just made about your townread and her weird vote?

[Kokichi Oma]

I think something everyone should be focusing on is the night voting that took place yesterday, especially with the knowledge that nicorobin is town. The main question I'm trying to figure out is the alignment relationship between NK15 and Maria/Kokichi

Something interesting to note is this, which happened immediately after votes for Nico were declared invalid:

I think Kokichi is a solid lynch. It's certainly better than trash wagon and lurker lynch. I personally have my eye on them because he seems to be pretending not to care too much about the game which I've seen him do twice before as scum.

I think that is the only lynch that could happen this phase except my own and Kokichi could be scum. We are still running out of time.
VOTE: Kokichi Oma

this is basically the first mention of kokichi in NK15's entire ISO, whom he votes from zero, ignoring RC who was at 1 vote already and whom he seemed to scumread. we know that RC was town now, so if we consider a potential scum!NK15, what was he trying to accomplish by voting kokichi over a townie who was already at one vote and might have been easy to mislynch here?

Because he saw mutant voting him. and what were his other options to vote at the time. i think he's pocketing mutant btw.

[Kokichi Oma]

Wut? I'm saying you didn't even give me time to post anything. you just voted me when I came in to post and what I was seeing

Okay can u expand on ur thought that someone who tried to speedlynch u is scum then?

did you not see the post where i broke it down?

[Kokichi Oma]

Votecount #14:

Player	Votes	Voters
Not Known 15	6	Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Kokichi Oma, Nibbui, MariaR
Kokichi Oma	4	Not Known 15, Elbirn, RadiantCowbells, ChibiBear
Not voting	---	NicoRobin, mutantdevle

While we're on this track, we need to consider this vote count here. Let's assume Kokichi is scum for a moment: what does this say about the rest of the playerlist? Given the composition of his wagon, unless the other scum is something like {NK15, Elbirn}, I'll assume that Kokichi isn't being bussed by both members of the scumteam. That implies that his partners are primarily on the NK15 wagon.

Does this point to NK15 being town? I'm not so sure. I think it's possible that there's a world in which NK15 was the designated bus but a Kokichi counterwagon arose – in some sense, it would explain the strange Kokichi vote that NK15 made directly after the nico wagon collapsed. He could have known that he was going to die and wanted to distance in his final moments.[/quot

Okay, can you break this down with the thought that I'm town? (for devil's advocate)

[Kokichi Oma]

Votecount #14:

Player	Votes	Voters
Not Known 15	6	Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Kokichi Oma, Nibbui, MariaR
Kokichi Oma	4	Not Known 15, Elbirn, RadiantCowbells, ChibiBear
Not voting	---	NicoRobin, mutantdevle

While we're on this track, we need to consider this vote count here. Let's assume Kokichi is scum for a moment: what does this say about the rest of the playerlist? Given the composition of his wagon, unless the other scum is something like {NK15, Elbirn}, I'll assume that Kokichi isn't being bussed by both members of the scumteam. That implies that his partners are primarily on the NK15 wagon.

Does this point to NK15 being town? I'm not so sure. I think it's possible that there's a world in which NK15 was the designated bus but a Kokichi counterwagon arose – in some sense, it would explain the strange Kokichi vote that NK15 made directly after the nico wagon collapsed. He could have known that he was going to die and wanted to distance in his final moments.

Okay, can you break this down with the thought that I'm town? (for devil's advocate)

fixed

[Kokichi Oma]

Also NSG, you used to be confident that you could read me. What's changed. You actively used to try to figure out my alignment and right now you're just pushing me in a POE pool, which is a bit weird based on the games we've played together that you've never just tried to POE me.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ugh, we're running out of time.

I dunno, I think that I was slightly townleaning Kokichi earlier because I feel like scum wouldn't ultra focus on the minigames and ignore everything else like he did, but I'm not sure how valid a 'read' that really is. He actively avoided taking a stance on the 1v1 and during tonight he seems to be jumping on the most popular wagons, which I'm not too sure about but it's not necessarily scum motivated? If he really is town and telling the truth though, then we could be lynching a pretty big potential asset, but even if that’s the case, I'm not entirely sure that I'll ever trust him enough to allow him to use his ability without question. I don't think his claim is a lie as it’s so easily provable, but I reckon it's entirely possible that it is a half truth and there's more to it. At the moment my read on him is null at best.

If NK15's strange logic is characteristic of his play regardless of alignment then he's gonna be a pain to sort with any kind of certainty. His push on Nibbui is very interesting though, would scum start a push against a widely townread player? Or rather more importantly, does his push seem genuine? At the point where he started pushing Nibbui, there were already quite a few votes on him, I feel like if he were scum looking to get out of a lynch, he wouldn't decide to go for Nibbui of all people, I think that his push is more likely than not to be genuine.

Ughhhhhhhh I'm taking a stance here I guess, feels bad to just waste Elbirn’s ability.

VOTE: Kokichi

This is a weird post because she states that she's running out of time. Implying that the vote on me is because it's running out of time. Then explains that her read on me is null at best, and nk15 is scummy based on the push she feels like is not genuine. At the point of this vote, NK15 had 6 votes, and if she was serious about being upset about running out of time, I don't see why she would vote me in that moment when I had less votes and she null read me and scumread nk15. I feel this post needs an explanation and I'm surprised no one else pointed it out. NK15 flips scum, this would be my next lynch

Nibbui, mutantdevle and Chibi I think are all very strongly town based on their own play, and I don't think anyone disagrees. Firebringer I trust that RC was right on. Nicorobin is town. I also think GE is lightly town based on his own play, but I admit that that's a read that I would be categorically likely to be wrong on.

this doesn't explain the scumreads. also why is nico town?

They're not scumreads, it's a PoE pool. Not to imply that I don't think any of you are scum – I do.

Why is nico town?

Votecount #14:

Player	Votes	Voters
Not Known 15	6	Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Kokichi Oma, Nibbui, MariaR
Kokichi Oma	4	Not Known 15, Elbirn, RadiantCowbells, ChibiBear
Not voting	---	NicoRobin, mutantdevle

While we're on this track, we need to consider this vote count here. Let's assume Kokichi is scum for a moment: what does this say about the rest of the playerlist? Given the composition of his wagon, unless the other scum is something like {NK15, Elbirn}, I'll assume that Kokichi isn't being bussed by both members of the scumteam. That implies that his partners are primarily on the NK15 wagon.

Does this point to NK15 being town? I'm not so sure. I think it's possible that there's a world in which NK15 was the designated bus but a Kokichi counterwagon arose – in some sense, it would explain the strange Kokichi vote that NK15 made directly after the nico wagon collapsed. He could have known that he was going to die and wanted to distance in his final moments.

Okay, can you break this down with the thought that I'm town? (for devil's advocate)

fixed

Also NSG, you used to be confident that you could read me. What's changed. You actively used to try to figure out my alignment and right now you're just pushing me in a POE pool, which is a bit weird based on the games we've played together that you've never just tried to POE me.

NSG can you respond to these 4 posts individually. Gonna go for now.

[Kokichi Oma]

Also Elbrin, can you explain your scumread on me?

[Kokichi Oma]

That's not possible. Mutant's vote came before NK15's. What were his other options? How about RC?

Mutant stated he'd vote me. So, that's as good as putting a vote down. and come on, do you think NK15 could get RC lynched there? no way.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ugh, we're running out of time.

I dunno, I think that I was slightly townleaning Kokichi earlier because I feel like scum wouldn't ultra focus on the minigames and ignore everything else like he did, but I'm not sure how valid a 'read' that really is. He actively avoided taking a stance on the 1v1 and during tonight he seems to be jumping on the most popular wagons, which I'm not too sure about but it's not necessarily scum motivated? If he really is town and telling the truth though, then we could be lynching a pretty big potential asset, but even if that’s the case, I'm not entirely sure that I'll ever trust him enough to allow him to use his ability without question. I don't think his claim is a lie as it’s so easily provable, but I reckon it's entirely possible that it is a half truth and there's more to it. At the moment my read on him is null at best.

If NK15's strange logic is characteristic of his play regardless of alignment then he's gonna be a pain to sort with any kind of certainty. His push on Nibbui is very interesting though, would scum start a push against a widely townread player? Or rather more importantly, does his push seem genuine? At the point where he started pushing Nibbui, there were already quite a few votes on him, I feel like if he were scum looking to get out of a lynch, he wouldn't decide to go for Nibbui of all people,

I think that his push is more likely than not to be genuine.

Ughhhhhhhh I'm taking a stance here I guess, feels bad to just waste Elbirn’s ability.

VOTE: Kokichi

This is a weird post because she states that she's running out of time. Implying that the vote on me is because it's running out of time. Then explains that her read on me is null at best, and nk15 is scummy based on the push she feels like is not genuine. At the point of this vote, NK15 had 6 votes, and if she was serious about being upset about running out of time, I don't see why she would vote me in that moment when I had less votes and she null read me and scumread nk15. I feel this post needs an explanation and I'm surprised no one else pointed it out. NK15 flips scum, this would be my next lynch

Bruh, you completely misread my post. I said that I felt that NK15's push on Nibbui was likely genuine and therefore was not scumreading him.

Ok so RC flipping town has messed me up a bit, I'm going to need to think about all this.

It's the wording, I guess. Cause you can read it as 'not to be genuine'.

Still, why would you vote your null read there at that point?

[Kokichi Oma]

I will ask you this, though – it almost seems to me like you're justifying NK15's vote on you or something. Could you clarify exactly what you mean in this post?

As scum, you need to be able to realize who you can get lynched over yourself. He knew mutant had a scumread on me. RC already stated that he could lynch me as well. Thus that's 3 votes. There was no one else he could vote that would give hi the same odds to save himself with time running out.

[Kokichi Oma]

strangely enough i am actually coming around to nk15 town

which leaves me with the really interesting question of just what was going on with the wagons at the end of the night there?

Why nk15 town? His vote was obviously self saving and had no thought in it. as I just explained.

[Kokichi Oma]

i see. so let's say he's scum. why didn't his wagon go through yesterday? where were scum voting? you've already said that you think it was on you and you've made your suspicion of chibibear clear, but what else does it imply?

I think Elbrin's vote was suspect as well. But, I'm not sure about the others.

[Kokichi Oma]

strangely enough i am actually coming around to nk15 town

which leaves me with the really interesting question of just what was going on with the wagons at the end of the night there?

Why nk15 town? His vote was obviously self saving and had no thought in it. as I just explained.

it doesn't relate to the VCA at all – it's just based off of his play overall this game. i don't think NK15 has much of an ability to actually play a scumgame, so i'm not sure if he could have made all of the "cases" and such he's made this game (i.e. 2288)

it's a preliminary read

do you have 2 of his scum games to compare to it?

[Kokichi Oma]

It's the wording, I guess. Cause you can read it as 'not to be genuine'.

Still, why would you vote your null read there at that point?

Because out of the 2 viable wagons, I thought that you were more likely to be scum.

In the early game I am far more comfortable with townreads than scumreads, so I was focused on not letting someone I was townleaning get lynched.

So what are your reads now

[Kokichi Oma]

Also, Idk what to do with kokichi, but now I noticed how he sort of lacks engagement on reading people in this game.

Have you not been reading the past 4 pages where I was involved in every conversation. How about you tell me your reads

[Kokichi Oma]

hi. i'm reasonably confident that there are three scum out of the four of {elbirn, maria, kokichi, nk15}.

i invite any disagreement.

I disagree. I'd switch NK15 out for Nibbui.

Why

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: NSG
That was the dumbest night kill and seeing NSG try to take advantage of it right away speaks volumes.
People who were in RCs poe don't just kill RC to conf his said poe.(At least I wouldn't and I don't think people are dumb enough to do that) So it came from people not in said poe or enough scum outside it

I dont think it was the worst.

[Kokichi Oma]

Talking about the nk. Maria what's your read on me

[Kokichi Oma]

So, you think I'm scum, Maria?

Well she voted you. Soo.....

[Kokichi Oma]

Also thinking Kokichi’s defending the NK is a bit scum indicative as I generally do that as scum

Scummy post. I never defended just said it wasn't the worst, I didnt say it was good. Misrep here

[Kokichi Oma]

, but I'm also scumreading Kokichi and I need to sort the post he made pushing chibi for not voting NK and what that all means, both like...what this means for chibi and what it means for the two of them as a pairing

VOTE: elbrin

I've asked you to clarify why you scumread me and you've ignored it

[Kokichi Oma]

right now i think the core of {Maria, Kokichi} almost always contains two scum and it's just a matter of actually nailing down who the third is when i'm starting to doubt that any of GE, NK15 and Elbirn are scum

So basically the lowest posters are scum. Got it.

[Kokichi Oma]

Put me in a pt with nico or nk15 please ty

Why?

Also I cant catch up. Too busy. I'll read the rest of what I missed later.

[Kokichi Oma]

Still haven't explained why nico is town

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't think NSG needs to explain about Nico for now honestly.

If she is scum, I don't think she makes this play with a scum buddy.

If she is town, I don't think she would try to make us take her read on Nico so strongly if she hasn't a good reason.

It looks like for some reason it's better to leave this one unanswered for a while. Also Kokichi, the way you come to the thread looks bad.

You look like trying to find a way out of being in the PoE/lynch pool rather than actually getting a organic read on anyone.

I already said I was short on time and just catching up. So this is false. And I'm not saying they are partners I'm asking why nico is town to see if my read is wrong or hers is

[Kokichi Oma]

Okay. I'm caught up. I have good reads now

[Kokichi Oma]

Not Known 15, Gamma Emerald, MariaR, ChibiBear, NicoRobin

I think this group contains scum remaining.

[Kokichi Oma]

Someone who townreads chibi can sway me. Shes my weakest read in there.

UNVOTE:

If anyone wants to discuss any specific person let me know

[Kokichi Oma]

Someone who townreads chibi can sway me. Shes my weakest read in there.

UNVOTE:

If anyone wants to discuss any specific person let me know

Talk to me about your MariaR read

I'm not trying to actively read her because of meta. Thus she falls in the poe

[Kokichi Oma]

Sorry really busy. Anyone have any questions about my poe? Quote this and ask

[Kokichi Oma]

Could you talk a little bit about your reasoning on why those people are in your poe? Even if it's just one or two sentences for each person.

Yeah. I will tomorrow.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi

Back here. Not doubting Maria being scum, just think i'm more confident on Kokichi now.

Weird to vote me right after a question to me.

[Kokichi Oma]

Sorry. Busy will answer tomorrow

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: gamma

No way in hell gamma as town ever says that

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi is scum responding to things out of order.

Rofl. Yes. Because seeing the post above my last one is out of order. No way this is town

[Kokichi Oma]

Ok I'm outing. I got an IC as my role unlocked last night. I can use it tonight. Lynch gamma

[Kokichi Oma]

Lynch gamma now. I have meta with him. Hes scum. He uses weak reasons as scum

[Kokichi Oma]

Lynch gamma. 100% flips scum

[Kokichi Oma]

Bad excuse. Lynch gamma

[Kokichi Oma]

Lame

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Very well... sheeping now.

VOTE: nk15

Sheeping the guy you wanted lynch last night for no reason. Right.

Lynch this instead

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Very well... sheeping now.

VOTE: nk15

Sheeping the guy you wanted lynch last night for no reason. Right.

Lynch this instead

so you've give up on the 100% Gamma scum read with a lot of meta?

because I don't think it's natural to do so and if you didn't give up on it, you should be reading NK15 as voting his buddy but that's not your reasoning here.

I want to lynch you so bad Kokichi.

If you can't understand the logic in my vote then that's your issue not mine

[Kokichi Oma]

@Kokichi

Ok I'm outing. I got an IC as my role unlocked last night. I can use it tonight. Lynch gamma

What was your quest, assuming by last night you mean last in-game night?

Or did you mean your minigame role?

Do nothing. I explained last night

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes because nk15 posted something scummier than gamma. That's how scumreads work. I dont worry about pairs or anything. I vote on based on who I think is the scummiest

[Kokichi Oma]

Mutant stop posting bad

[Kokichi Oma]

Mutant stop posting bad

At least I have good posts as well. That's more than what can be said for you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Instead of posting pointless stuff like this could you maybe address some of my posts that were directed towards you?

You're blindly tring a scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

MariaR why would NK15 go after gamma if you and kokichi are easier?

Because if you can get a harder lynch off then you go back to the easy ones after. Kinda easy

[Kokichi Oma]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

same. now lynch NK15.

[Kokichi Oma]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

same. now lynch NK15.

You also need to explain yourself Mr Fake IClaim.

Nk15 is sided with the mafia.

[Kokichi Oma]

Why are you still avoiding the fact that you are blatantly lying about your role?

I'm not.

[Kokichi Oma]

Imagine lynching the IC rofl. This website never ceases to amaze me

[Kokichi Oma]

What’s Kokichi at votewise
And Kokichi, you have two options here: clear up the situation by claim which ability give you your IC, or not doing that and prolly getting lynched

I already said by doing nothing. I've claimed that 3 times

[Kokichi Oma]

vote NK15, gamma. you know this ame is similar to excalibur

[Kokichi Oma]

idk what his issue is. but why does Mutant matter when it comes to your vote?

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes

[Kokichi Oma]

I literally claimed it last night

[Kokichi Oma]

By the way I wasnt posting first half of the night because one of my roles says I cant do anything at night to unlock it. So i assumed i couldnt talk in night thread. But mod clarified it meant no actions by me. (Even tho i have no actions to do right now. I'm guessing when i unlock my ability from winning a mini game it's a night action.)

[Kokichi Oma]

When is the next mini game mod

[Kokichi Oma]

Normal service resuming shortly

Next minigame in about (expired on 2018-12-30 06:00:00).

[Kokichi Oma]

You sunk my battleship

[Kokichi Oma]

Who hurt you?

Lol

[Kokichi Oma]

prodge

[Kokichi Oma]

Mfw you try to sink me when I unlock another ability as well

[Kokichi Oma]

Nk15 lunch is scum. Just saying

[Kokichi Oma]

Maria prob town. Lynch nk15 tomorrow

[Kokichi Oma]

I am town

[Kokichi Oma]

Nk15 is sided with the mafia

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: nk15

[Kokichi Oma]

I totally forgot about the mini game

[Kokichi Oma]

I am town. Nk15 is mafia

[Kokichi Oma]

Nice

[Kokichi Oma]

Nk15 is mafia me thinks