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okay, one thing that we know mechanically is that movement speed in this game does not correspond to movement speed in starcraft.
Case in point: STW's zergling moves 2 spaces per turn. Ari/Nancy's overlord moves 3 spaces per turn
In starcraft, zerglings have a movement speed of 2.9531, and overlords have a movement speed of only 0.586.
Which is too bad because a couple people fly around the playerlist but I couldn't mechanically put them on a range as a result.103-11 0-2- u r a person 2
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sorry, source:
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Speed
this is for sc2, but overlords are slower than zerglings in sc1, too103-11 0-2-
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I'm cool doing consensus since it's obvious that I'm not the greatest judge of who is scum or not in this game.In post 2373, Almost Chara wrote:Varsoon isn't scum.
Varsoon: i want you to use your shot on a consensus. was i right that you were lying, or did your shot fail for another reason (like playerlist order.)
@STW: Sorry for confbiasing on your slot; you were legitimately hard-scum to me and your dodginess and survivalistic approach combined with how many counterwagons were proposed in BOTH our Deadline-within-24-hours got me real tilted to reading you as scum.
Anyway,I think Kokichi needs to confirm as town or rescind the IC claim.- Varsoon
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Okay so, let me figure this out.In post 5, Krazy wrote:GAME START PLAYER ORDER -- RANDOMIZED
1. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra)
2. Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra)
3. Mewtaph
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5. AlmostChara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra)
6. Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra)
7. pinturucchio
8. jjh927
9. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra)
10. Kokichi Oma
11. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra)
12. alchemist21
13. Creature
14. Varsoon
Mephisto and STW died so...
1. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra)
2. Mewtaph
3. u r a person 2
4. AlmostChara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra)
5. pinturucchio
6. jjh927
7. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra)
8. Kokichi Oma
9. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra)
10. alchemist21
11. Creature
12. Varsoon
So that's how people moved.In post 2365, Krazy wrote:During the night forces have moved!
The new order of players is such:
1. pinturicchio
2. u r a person 2
3. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra)
4. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra)
5. Varsoon
6. Kokichi Oma
7. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra)
8. jjh927
9. Almost Chara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra)
10. Creature
11. Mewtaph
12. Alchemist21
I tried to move to the middle of the playerlist specifically to avoid positioning stuff.- Varsoon
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@Varsoon: I think we need to resolve the hard-to-read slots. Like, if you shoot in pintu/jjh that should (a) resolve a slot that's a bit hard to read, and (b) exclude 2 players (down) or 3 (up) from being the slot responsible for blocking your shot on D1.
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um what?In post 2378, Varsoon wrote:
I'm cool doing consensus since it's obvious that I'm not the greatest judge of who is scum or not in this game.In post 2373, Almost Chara wrote:Varsoon isn't scum.
Varsoon: i want you to use your shot on a consensus. was i right that you were lying, or did your shot fail for another reason (like playerlist order.)
@STW: Sorry for confbiasing on your slot; you were legitimately hard-scum to me and your dodginess and survivalistic approach combined with how many counterwagons were proposed in BOTH our Deadline-within-24-hours got me real tilted to reading you as scum.
Anyway,I think Kokichi needs to confirm as town or rescind the IC claim.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Kokichi Oma
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On fact, forget about jjh. His move towards the middle is NOT scum indicative. He was already there and he didn't move to gain any advantage, so he is unlikely to have a killing ability and -also- doesn't look afraid of being shot either.
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Of course you can also shoot Kokichi who is right next to you, so nothing can stop the shot. He either dies or is confirmed as scum and we lynch him.
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I moved only two spaces up and ended there; I have the same role that Shoshin had. I wanted to be close to Michael Scott to see if he would kill me. I think that, mechanically talking, I'm a good shot for Varsoon since I'm not a PR and would give info about what happened wrt his failed shot on D1.In post 2382, Almost Chara wrote:Actually, I want you to shoot pintu. He moved "further away" from your original slot. That's gives me the impression he wanted to be as far as possible from you, maybe?
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i don't want pintu shot, he's one of the town i'm using for PoE.
i think the hypothesis of there being scum in the way is correct, so Varsoon shouldn't be trying to shoot someone so far away anyway, all it would tell us if the shot failed is to be slightly more suspicious of u2, MS, and PF. (and pintu himself, of course)
in fact, i don't know if scum would actually run from Varsoon over using their positioning some other way, such as nightkills/scum actions. (but that's just a guess) it's a very public action, and if they were truly scared i think they would have just killed Varsoon.
jjh is a great shot, though he's a little far. so is Kokichi.
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the scum in the way thing doesn't make sense thematically.
attacks are all targeted or aoe, and units don't take bullets for other units
and it doesn't make sense from a zerg vig flavor that can only hit town
i'd be more inclined to think any blocked shot was the result of another activated day ability. like activating a forcefield, picking a unit up into a shuttle, or healing them with a medic103-11 0-2- Varsoon
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Kokichi isn't IC.In post 2383, Kokichi Oma wrote:
um what?In post 2378, Varsoon wrote:
I'm cool doing consensus since it's obvious that I'm not the greatest judge of who is scum or not in this game.In post 2373, Almost Chara wrote:Varsoon isn't scum.
Varsoon: i want you to use your shot on a consensus. was i right that you were lying, or did your shot fail for another reason (like playerlist order.)
@STW: Sorry for confbiasing on your slot; you were legitimately hard-scum to me and your dodginess and survivalistic approach combined with how many counterwagons were proposed in BOTH our Deadline-within-24-hours got me real tilted to reading you as scum.
Anyway,I think Kokichi needs to confirm as town or rescind the IC claim.
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let's assume movement actually has a reason to be in this game.In post 2396, u r a person 2 wrote:and he didn't burrow or get in a bunker
and none of the others are just passive blocking via being in the way
im just saying i don't think we should get too committed to the idea that scum or a certain town role in the middle of varsoon and his shot is what affected or will affect it
and then we can extrapolate from there to say that it's probably a good idea to be closer to the thing you want to affect. otherwise, is there a point?
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