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[Persivul]

This is disappointing... I know that town!xwing can do better than this.

So vote it.

[BuJaber]

Yes see there it is. Now you see it.

Xwing is awfully fencesitty in that post. Sashaddin's preceding post also. But sashaddin has been here since the start and posted a little more so I dunno I guess that puts him at a higher level of expectation for me.

I wanted to question why you chose xwing over him. Turned out your read on xwing was for a slightly different reason, except that now your latest post shows you actually picked up on the fencesitting.

VOTE: sashaddin

[Dannflor]

Why do you see Sashaddin as more fencesitty? I don't really read him that way. Xwing isn't even fencesitty she's just going along with what everyone says.

i agree it seems like dann is *trying* to pocket,

I kinda sorta agree...

but his later posts seems fine..

But no, not really.

This actually goes completely along with what has already been said before. Flubber said "town read on roster bad," but the rest of my play seems fine.

And then ofc:

@sasha - strongly agree on dann read

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It's not even fencesitty it's just saying a lot without actually having anything to say yet.

VOTE: xwing

[BuJaber]

i will agree for now..


for me, naked votes are NAI this early too..


@gamma ^
what do you think?

Leaves room for backing out.

Nullread.

Not a read.

I can see Egix and Junko as town. Dann is giving me both feelings at once. As for the Gamma thing, I don't think I understand what's going on.

Maybe it's just the wording but doesn't sound that he's convinced they're townreads.
Nullread on dann.
Not a read.

@sasha - strongly agree on dann read

Strongly agrees on a nullread.

When picking between them I feel sasha is more deserving of the vote because I expect less from an entry post than a regular post from someone following along from the beginning.

Not that I'm excusing xwing but at least he/she can say he/she missed the real time context of being here. What's sasha's excuse?

[Dannflor]

Hey Xwing. Good to see you again

Also you're scum.

VOTE: Xwing

Are you just sheeping Persivul or do you have other reasons to vote here

What happened to your scum read on me?

[Egix96]

This is disappointing... I know that town!xwing can do better than this.

So vote it.

Aye aye!

UNVOTE:

VOTE: xwing

Gamma's not completely off the hook yet though.

[Tchill13]

When did it become in fashion to toss around town reads with less than a hundred posts?

Are you guys such bad scum that you can't fake it for that long?

Post number doesn't really matter. Tell me why scum would throw out TR's atm when they don't have to take a stance at all yet.

That's...not...the...point.

The way you worded that makes me feel like you don't actually think someone is scum you're just being sarcastic. Idk what your point is.

MY POINT is why would scum throw out any reads when they don't have to?

[Tchill13]

I'll explain later in this post but why is two townreads (the only ones I've mentioned, I believe) "too many?" Reads can change. Also, getting strong townreads early is one of the best ways to pin down mafia by process of elimination.

I don't know about BuJaber, but for me, the issue isn't HAVING town reads. The issue is ANNOUNCING them. Town doesn't need to announce their town reads at this point of the game. Scum could do so to appear to be actually analyzing the game, and for buddying.

Wtf. Why didn't you just say this when I asked you my question instead of saying that's not the point. Makes sense just wish you would have told me that.

[Tchill13]

He has three posts. Too early to say.

Then what was scummy about xwing's post?

The two

I agrees

.Looks like scum that doesn't know how to generate content but feels a need to put content up.

Hey Xwing. Good to see you again

Also you're scum.

VOTE: Xwing

VOTE: xwing

[Dannflor]

Gamma's not completely off the hook yet though.

Not off the hook for what

Not following the game closely?

not a fan of this justification for moving your vote but I don't think the Gamma wagon is good to begin with

[xwing]

any more takers for a wagon on me?
really, i feel there's nothing much to comment on..
kinda disappointed no questions were thrown my way though..

[Dannflor]

why do you put two dots after every sentence, at least commit to the ellipsis

So far you've said Haschel reads town, do you have reads on anyone else or is that your strongest reaction to this game so far

[Egix96]

Gamma's not completely off the hook yet though.

Not off the hook for what

Not following the game closely?

not a fan of this justification for moving your vote but I don't think the Gamma wagon is good to begin with

Pretty much. I still don't think Gamma is town.

[xwing]

habit, i guess..it's just the way i've typed in forums..

your slot seemed scummy at the start, but more townie in later posts..
i dont like persivul slot, but that's mostly posting style i think..
bujaber seems town..
roster i've played with and will reveal his townie-ness to me later methinks, but null for now..
i dont have any strong town reads right now, and i have zero scum reads yet..

[Dannflor]

I still don't think Gamma is town.

Can you elaborate on this? Other people voting her could weigh in on this too. I don't see anything Gamma has done (or hasn't done) as scum indicative. I could

maybe

see pressure voting her to get her to pay attention to the game, but to say you don't think she's town at this point makes me think you're seeing something I'm not.

[Dannflor]

What about persivul's style don't you like

[Egix96]

I still don't think Gamma is town.

Can you elaborate on this? Other people voting her could weigh in on this too. I don't see anything Gamma has done (or hasn't done) as scum indicative. I could

maybe

see pressure voting her to get her to pay attention to the game, but to say you don't think she's town at this point makes me think you're seeing something I'm not.

Nothing Gamma has said makes me think they could be town. That's really all there is to it.

[Persivul]

What about persivul's style don't you like

Well TBF I am kind of an asshole.

[xwing]

@dannflor

VOTE: Gamma

Could have just as easily been on Junk. STFU.

i dont really like swearing..

When did it become in fashion to toss around town reads with less than a hundred posts?

Are you guys such bad scum that you can't fake it for that long?

this is just weird for me..i mean did the gods of mafia make a rule that you can only announce your TRs at a certain threshold? this post appears to me like discouraging players from taking early stances..but.. (continued below)

I'll explain later in this post but why is two townreads (the only ones I've mentioned, I believe) "too many?" Reads can change. Also, getting strong townreads early is one of the best ways to pin down mafia by process of elimination.

I don't know about BuJaber, but for me, the issue isn't HAVING town reads. The issue is ANNOUNCING them. Town doesn't need to announce their town reads at this point of the game. Scum could do so to appear to be actually analyzing the game, and for buddying.

..he continues here, and his explanation is okay/understandable, though i disagree..i believe that it's more beneficial for town to give out stances at any part of the game, even if they do change..i mean anything town tries to do, scum will attempt to do anyway..maybe persivul is just the type of player who is cage-y on their reads to try and catch scum or something..while i tend to babble..

[xwing]

What about persivul's style don't you like

Well TBF I am kind of an asshole.

nah you're still good so far, just some style conflict i guess..you havent done personal attacks yet so still good lol..

[Sashaddin]

What's sasha's excuse?

The answer is in your signature: family time on week-ends. Also the quasi-omnipresent debate of whether or not RVS are relevant was not quite over yet.

[Sashaddin]

I like 127 but am not willing to vote xwing myself yet.

[Sashaddin]

no questions were thrown my way though..

What do you think is being the cause of your wagon?

[Mewtaph]

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