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Post Post #36 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:44 am

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Have we claimed lover pairs yet? I'm with PP.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:52 am

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Also, PP didn't edit anyone's post. That joke was in poor taste, especially for the new players who might not have known it was a joke.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:46 am

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Clemency
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Post Post #60 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:04 am

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Creature style :P

Fancy way of saying I townread Eragon and Robert.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:10 am

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But why not?

I believe there's a higher chance they act the way they did as town than as scum.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:21 am

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They seem as though they don't care at all about how they are perceived, which is a trait that more commonly comes from town.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:22 am

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Mostly, it's just spitballing trying to get the game moving though. Which seems to have worked.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:45 am

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Also I don't play Smash or FE but my lover wants you to know that Marth is far superior to Ike :P
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Post Post #80 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:15 pm

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Alright well, that's stupid.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:37 am

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It seems like an improvement to allow the player chosen to be lynched to make the next random roll, for somewhat of an obvious reason.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:03 am

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Not necessarily. It might still be a good idea to play D1, or at least play D1 until we get to a consensus townread to start off the random lynching. (That way town can feel comfortable with that person excluding themself and their lover from the first random pool.)

The plan could be improved further with a consensus locktown read picking every random lynch and excluding themself and their lover from every pool, though the EV of that is obviously dependent on the chance that the player selected for this would be scum.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm

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I usually townhunt more than scumhunt, especially D1. I like the version of this strategy that requires town to come up with a consensus townread.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:30 pm

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In post 124, Eragon wrote:
In post 109, Something_Smart wrote:I usually townhunt more than scumhunt, especially D1. I like the version of this strategy that requires town to come up with a consensus townread.
so...

you cant play a normal game and townhunt and find consensus townread?

but when you literally
random lynch
you can townhunt?

this makes absolutely no sense.
I never said I couldn't play a normal game, but this plan provides a good EV with relatively little risk of giving away lover pairings. It's at least worth considering and thinking critically about.

I've already given away a few people I'm not lovers with, and so have a lot of people... I'm concerned about our ability to play the game normally when we all have secret information we can't reveal.

Perhaps the best route is to follow my plan but have lynches be selected rather than randomized. Under that plan, we vote on a consensus townread to pick the first lynch victim. Then that victim discussed with their lover and says who the next one should be, then we lynch them and the cycle repeats. That has a very low chance of giving away lover pairings.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:52 pm

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In post 174, Ruby Red wrote:(because he's town being shitwagoned)
well she kind of just gave away who her lover is... so I think we have nothing to lose by lynching her now.
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Post Post #179 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:06 pm

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Actually, we should lynch glowball before endgame but it doesn't have to be now.

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Post Post #197 (isolation #15) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:13 am

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Post Post #227 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:05 am

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Sorry
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Post Post #233 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:52 pm

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My absence has been sitewide and not indicative of alignment.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:55 pm

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It's mostly due to lack of a better alternative, and because it doesn't seem like Clemency is going to get easier to read.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #19) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:57 pm

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Fair enough.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:00 am

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That was kind of pathetic...
Although I think my wifom tactics were better :P
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Post Post #263 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:01 am

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Joan, there's a middle ground between doing nothing but playing mafia all day and not even bothering to honor the commitment you signed up for. If you're really so busy you can't spare a few minutes a couple times a day, you shouldn't be playing. It's insulting to the rest of us who wanted a real game.
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