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I mean I am not convinced and no one has come up with a concrete reason as to why the IC/vig would not counter claim- Varsoon isn’t getting to LyLo or whatever without shooting I guess but right now this is all a distractionIn post 2472, Alchemist21 wrote:
I would think it more likely that a vig takes a shot at one of the lurker slots as a target. Varsoon gets exposed as a liar, and vig has killed either a scum slot or someone that Town wouldn’t be sad to lose.In post 2462, ProFlavor wrote:im Unconvinced
Vig could just hope we lynch the fact Varsoon shot a blank thus enabling town to realise the real vig is still about
Perhaps the real vig thinks of themselves more as an IC than a vig because they think they might team kill, so it’s more important to declare IC later
Maybe a shot got blocked and the vig doesn’t want to claim but right now all signs point to Varsoon telling the truth here.
Varsoon simply has to shoot and all is confirmed - we can trade me for his IC status if you’d like but the above/below logic is probably worth testing at the same time
I am going to start making my assessments of the wagons from yesterday in the hydra thread to give FL a shortcut as I feel like this vig issue is starting to become a distraction- ProFlavor
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Dunno where he is :-/ you’re stuck with me for nowIn post 2474, pinturicchio wrote:Hey woofer, is Leafy out there, or gave some input about EoD? Like what does he think about STW being town?- pinturicchio
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You're lovely too. Same question for you then.In post 2477, ProFlavor wrote:
Dunno where he is :-/ you’re stuck with me for nowIn post 2474, pinturicchio wrote:Hey woofer, is Leafy out there, or gave some input about EoD? Like what does he think about STW being town?- Almost Chara
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Preliminary movement analysis suggests Mewtaph is the Scum protective. No idea if he protects adjacent slots (say 2 up & down) or intercepts the action (i.e. Varsoon's action fails if Mew is between him and his target). Also no idea if Mew also self protects (I would expect him to, but no guarantees).
Creature is scum who moved up to make sure he was close to Mew (just in case someone moved down between them).
Notice that Mew must have always ended above Alch (who says he didn't move) so our move (6 down) could have put us between Mew and Creature if we decided to go down 7 instead of 6.
Anyway, Koki appears to have not moved, but he said he wanted to get as close to the middle as possible. Well, the strange thing is HE IS at the middle (5 above & 6 below is as close as it gets with 12 alive). I imagine what he meant was he wanted to be closer to Mewtaph, but the massive movement from above him downwards messed it up.
I also considered jjh for the protector and Creature just moving up towards him, but then Koki would have no reason to complain as he is as far from jjh as Creature is.
Of course this is all A50 moon!logic production, so feel free to put it to test or ignore completely.
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I will repeat: For those who have yet to claim how many slots they moved, or if they use "as close to # as possible" or "towards player X", please do. I no longer need it to be in any particular order. I just need to confirm a couple of details. Thank you.
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I’ll come back once I’ve looked at the wagonsIn post 2478, pinturicchio wrote:
You're lovely too. Same question for you then.In post 2477, ProFlavor wrote:
Dunno where he is :-/ you’re stuck with me for nowIn post 2474, pinturicchio wrote:Hey woofer, is Leafy out there, or gave some input about EoD? Like what does he think about STW being town?
I was happy to go with the Varsoon on day 1 but the longer we go without evidence of his vig claim the more ill want to lynch tbh
I thought STW was scum and I think there will be a clever scum within the people that appeared town - that happened to me before and I’m getting the same vibe- ProFlavor
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Nah I want evidence of your claimIn post 2480, Varsoon wrote:ProFlavor, are you roleblocking me?- Varsoon
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Spec.In post 2482, Almost Chara wrote:
Did you try to shoot already? Or are you speculating preemptively?In post 2480, Varsoon wrote:ProFlavor, are you roleblocking me?
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And I really don't like ProFlavor calling my claim into question when Kokichi's hasn't been rescinded at all.- Tibor and Lumia
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How many slots precisely, please?In post 2487, u r a person 2 wrote:i am also good with the kochiki shot
I moved up last night btw. I didn't put much thought into it, but not moving didn't occur to me, so I just moved up.
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Ok, I'll wait for your analysis. About Varsoon, without a counterclaim, I would just leave it. I get were you're coming from (you were fake dayvigged by scum!Varsoon on OK2 after all), I'm skeptycal about Varsoon's claim too, but regardless the claim, he has been pretty damn townie, so by everyone's favourite principle, the one and only Occam's razor, we should assume his claim is real this time 'cause is counterclaimable (is that a word?) and it hasn't happened.In post 2483, ProFlavor wrote:
I’ll come back once I’ve looked at the wagonsIn post 2478, pinturicchio wrote:
You're lovely too. Same question for you then.In post 2477, ProFlavor wrote:
Dunno where he is :-/ you’re stuck with me for nowIn post 2474, pinturicchio wrote:Hey woofer, is Leafy out there, or gave some input about EoD? Like what does he think about STW being town?
I was happy to go with the Varsoon on day 1 but the longer we go without evidence of his vig claim the more ill want to lynch tbh
I thought STW was scum and I think there will be a clever scum within the people that appeared town - that happened to me before and I’m getting the same vibe- jjh927
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Anyway I'd prefer not to get caught up in rolespec stuff around my role because I don't want to be biased against people doubtcasting because I definitely have lied about some aspects of my role, intentionally, in order to WIFOM scum.
So we should probably try to catch people independent of that rolespec.- Almost Chara
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