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I got tired of doing PbyP's so thats reaction to #177. U2AP and Shoshin are town, I'm taking that to the bank.
@UP2
Maestro and OkaPoka are 2 of the scum. If #174 isn't distancing I truly don't know what is. #189 seems a bit ballsy for that but I still think it is the right choice, especially after you gave them confidence in #188. #213 is a giant copout not to scumhunt.
I'm fine with OP or Maestro but VOTE: Maestro. This flips scum. I think I left a Oka vote somewhere in the spoiler tags but I can't be fucked to go back and read it.-
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Okay I'll biteIn post 310, OkaPoka wrote:I miss Cheeky already.
Hi Slaxx, you are lolwagons? I'm gnelf. You are misinterpreting what I say Slaxx. Whatever, if I stand alone on my ideas, I'll stand alone. C9++ would have been easier if we dealt with certain slots earlier though. Just saying.
What am I misrepping? Your signal to noise ratio is equivalent to letting an RNG choose your radio station.-
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I get that but how the hell does he defend against "You're scum because when I'm scum I dox"? You basically backed him into a corner than kept your vote parked there. On top of that the reasons for his reads seem transparent and reasonable, I don't see anything particularly sinister about them. I found myself nodding along with a lot of what him and Shosh were saying.-
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I went in blind. I like nightless vanilla type setups and hopped in. No choice, just saw it in the replacement queue and hopped in.In post 315, u r a person 2 wrote:I'm out of posts, but we've got time in the day to entertain this for a hot minute
@slaxx did you read the thread before replacing in? Did you choose CT's slot over Slimer's?
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It is about seeing the mentality, and I still don't think you are clearly articulatingIn post 316, OkaPoka wrote:Well then its your opinion, and if you are town I'm taking Cheeky's evaluation over your evaluation.
I think I specifically mentioned maestro for the policy lynch thing though, no?
The point about me specifically is because I felt like I saw something, and continue to see something that nobody else is. I use myself as an example because I've done it as scum. He isn't supposed to defend himself because mafia is not a game where one side makes an argument and the other side makes a counterargument. If he wants to prove himself as town, he'll do so. The latter is easy to fake. Its about seeing the mentality. And if I can stop his roll and make sure this "townbloc" doesn't do what the DDU "townbloc" did, then my job here is done. Townblocs just aren't town though. I haven't played with an actually pure townbloc. Its lazy play for town, its free ride for scum.whythat townblock, in this context, seemed feigned or driven by a sinister motive. You can't just say that his reads are scummy because townblocks are bad, there are like 4 missing logical steps in there.
The primary thing I got out of your post was that you're willing to lynch Maestro, so how about you go ahead and vote there? UP2 isn't happening.-
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No vote for Maestro...why? He's your counterwagon now.In post 322, OkaPoka wrote:Well if I end up getting the noose instead of Cheeky.
I need the townies of this townbloc to reconsider why and how they managed to get be a part of it.
And do everything possible to slow down the roll.
I don't want to see my tactics win against me.
Thanks.
Meanwhile if you want to lynch scum, lynch U2.
Also, I'd like to add that although you have to be careful with townblocks, this is a nightless (which I think Grey is as well?)
When people like Aubrey and Maestro try to foment that paranoiawithout a coherent reason or refutationand get frustrated that people are getting townreads, it is a giant ass red flag because in this setup scum can't kill off their cohesive adversaries. I chose Maestro over you because you at least seemed to have a coherent thought process on why you don't trust townblocks. But once again, I still am not seeing evidence as to why the town reads were invalid, just that they were because you have used the strategy in the past to win as scum. But your experience is not universally applicable.
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In post 329, Maestro wrote:Hooooo boi the replacements are wagoning me
Hi Slaxx - I’ve at least seen you around.
I see Cheeky basically flailed himself into replacing and lost me my onlycontemporaryasset when it came to reading somebody this game. How lovely. I’ve already addressed your concern about “fomenting paranoia” which is a stupid thing to call “healthy skepticism”.I don’t do Townreads.So me seeing a whole thread going around going “herpderp town”? I’m gonna call that shit out. A certain amount of paranoia is good in a mafia game, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a bit ROSEY about the game where we pretend to lynch each otherwith democracy.
Did you have any other concerns other than “Maestro plays differently than others in the thread and can’t read Oka”? Of the 3 things I said to Oka in whatever’s post you quoted, I’m not sure which looks like distancing to you but if I wanted to say some of the shit I’ve said to Oka... and we were Scum together... why would I not just say it in Daychat?
I meant what I said about Cheeky’s lynch in that last post somebody said “could never be made by Town” btw and I would say that as either alignment...?
That was fun, we can lynch him now.In post 213, Maestro wrote:
sfter this? I'm honestly still trying to process and I've got a post on the back burner but was worried about hitting my limit - idk why I just figured if I got sucked back in after dinner I may notve remember to keep the posts light within the next 18 hours or whatever.In post 210, CheekyTeeky wrote:I honestly don't even care if you're townI'm mainly freaking out a lil' biut that I'm townreading basically nobody here, maybe it's cuz some of you are new, maybe it's becaus I've only ever seen brassherald play before, but y'all are fucking insane by my standards. And it's a geriatric ao I don't mean posting-freqency-wise (because I've played with and modded the worst shitposters on the site), I just mean it's like. trying to read the rosetta stone for some of you, especially hte newbiwes, seriously
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Less confident on OP, still think Maestro flips scum here. That’s not like a wording difference, that’s a complete 180 on their approach to the game in like a 24 hour period. Also, they haven’t contributed much of anything in terms of solving or push’s but spent plenty of time on long-winded, vapid posts.-
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I replaced CT...In post 356, Aubrey wrote:Files are extremely dangerous when thrown, added Manila folder weight does +2 damage.
As slaxx pointed out I don’t know how you go from worrying about having no townreads and then state you don’t look for town reads necessarily. That just doesn’t make sense to me.
If the original CT wagon were to reform I wouldn’t cry, but I don’t think that is the case today.
VOTE: maestro
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It’s 15 pages dude.In post 362, Gamma Emerald wrote:No. What don’t you get about letting me read?
Oka I get your logic but the dude straight contradicted himself on the entire way he’s approaching this game within like 24 hours. Can’t really judge the flash aspect of a wagon with a piece like that.-
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Meh page 4 really makes it looks like not Gamma. Also idk Gamma super well but I don’t think he throws a fit as scum about his buddy being hammered. Still going back and forth on Oka as well. I think it’s Aubrey (idk if I buy his vote on maestro as I hinted yesterday) and the. Maybe one of my town reads is wrong.-
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That post is mind bending to me. You agree with my logic and think I have a good point but leave yourself an out onto another wagon... my wagon... and then the person I’m pushing flips red.In post 356, Aubrey wrote:Files are extremely dangerous when thrown, added Manila folder weight does +2 damage.
As slaxx pointed out I don’t know how you go from worrying about having no townreads and then state you don’t look for town reads necessarily. That just doesn’t make sense to me.
If the original CT wagon were to reform I wouldn’t cry, but I don’t think that is the case today.
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Shoshin is town btw, this post should be enough to quell any more doubt.In post 179, Maestro wrote:In post 86, Shoshin wrote:I'm never lynching Brass. And I'm pretty sure NL isn't lynching Brass either. So I'm pretty sure you need to give up on that mislynch, Maestro.In post 91, Shoshin wrote:Maestro's town, Slimer.
I'm catching up from around this post but I clicked to the most recent posts first, yes, sue me, or fuckin' don't unless you have a good lawyer because I live in the US of A and we love to sue around here... IMO this thought progression looks the worst to me from the PoV of only reading what came before this and the last page or so (e.g. pg 7 because Oka had to get the fwrjfdhsking pagetop and force my post to lose context.In post 93, Shoshin wrote:
Brass town telled and town slipped. He's town.In post 92, Aubrey wrote:Just how in the hell are you getting so many town reads by page 4?
Maestro's town because scum would have realized how Brass slipped.
Shoshin doesn't even vote me or apparently even scumread me after accusing me of seemingly actively pushing a ML I know is a ML......? I remain skeptical of somebody reaching up their ass and pulling out the idea of a "townslip" and this is what I get in response? Skepticism is healthy. If I teach you nothing else, let it be that, comrades. (I basically don't believe "townslipping" is a thing, if you haven't noticed - anything can be faked,anything)
PEDIT: Hi brass, I exist. Notice me, Horton! Suddenly Seymour! CT is obvs a troll so talk to me instead plz.-
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I take pride I’m rarely getting mislynched, so if I do I’m putting an asterisk next to this one as “not my fault”.In post 394, u r a person 2 wrote:regardless of alignment, I sincerely respect your play so far, btw.
Prior to your replacing CT, I would have argued that a maestro red flip implicated your slot. I'm aware that you led the push to maestro. I just think we need to see where everyone is at wrt your slot.
I understand people will probably still not like this slot, as the Maestro flip didn’t change many of my reads except maybe Oka (also made me a tinge less confident on NL-town and I’ll explain why when I’m at a PC) so I can’t fault other people for thinking it was a hard bus, especially in a nightless without investigative roles.
But man, I joined this game not to get nightkilled if I was town. The irony of getting lynched will be palpable.-
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Lol I might be confbiasing but this reads like TMIIn post 418, Aubrey wrote:K. Whose the flag bearer then?
Like why would U2 assume he was Goon? I guess because he was widely scumread?
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Your scumreads are the same regardless of the flip? Not a loaded question.In post 424, u r a person 2 wrote:If you're the goon, flag bearer is 1 in {gemma, NL, slaxx}
if you're the flagbearer, and I'm misinterpreting a read that is simply lazy (or made for some other reason), the other scum is likely oka or gemma.
If you are town, then there are 2 in {nl, slaxx, gemma, oka} with oka being the least likely scum
this is all off the top of my head. I'll try and go back and really look into associations again over the next couple days.-
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I don’t like the indirect answer of the question and I don’t like according to your logic there’s a 50/50 between NL and I but you aren’t doing anything to drive the wagons or even voting. I’ll probably hammer after Gamma catches up.In post 415, Aubrey wrote:It’s no better than NL’s.-
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Leading a second scum lynch would make my scum equity go up? I know bussing is possible here but are you high?In post 433, u r a person 2 wrote:
yes and noIn post 429, Slaxx wrote:Your scumreads are the same regardless of the flip? Not a loaded question.
My town bloc of {shoshin, brass} doesn't change so there is a lot of similarity
I don't really see aubrey and oka picking oka as the FB, so oka is town after a red flip
I think if audrey is red, the scum equity increases for slaxx and NL and decreases for Gamma.
If audrey flips town, gamma and oka's scum equity increases a little and NL and slaxx equity decreases a little.-
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I promise it wasn't a loaded question that answer just baffled me.
So, I find myself actually agreeing with Oka. If Aubrey flips red her Brass starts looking really bad in his ISO. We probably shouldn't be townblocking him. You/Shosh I think are the only people I am comfortable with seeing in endgame, lynching whoever is third. Hopefully we can get endgame on Day 3 or 4 though.-
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I know this probably just entrenches you in your view of me trying to scoot on bus cred, the more I talk about how lynching two scum makes me town, but that is an EXTREMELY stupid thing to do.In post 440, u r a person 2 wrote:maybe, but that doesn't take away from the read. If I'm coming into CT's slot to find a scum role pm and neither of my teammates in the town bloc, I think I'm bussing pretty hard and seeing what happens. At least sometimes
You don't sacrifice two people under less fire than yourself to to try to get towncred, you just eat the lynch.-
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Do I think I could? Unlikely but maybe.In post 442, u r a person 2 wrote:I think it's all game specific. Depends on the team mates, the town players, etc. Do you think you could carry the game from that position as scum?
I promise to go over brass from square one again here soon.
Would I double buss and try to to foment enough shit to outlast what, like 4 mislynches? No way. I'd eat dirt and let the buddies figure it out.-
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This might help inform your opinionIn post 253, brassherald wrote:
Town reads are too numerous, I don't remember loving the analysis.In post 252, Shoshin wrote:Brass, what are your concerns about me?
But, I do promise when I do my read tomorrow night of everyone's ISO, I will be open to change, because I have been wrong in the past.
Like one time.
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This seems like Maestro possibly throwing shade on Shoshin in the event of a scum-Brass flip while still agreeing with the read... he never explains why he reads him that way.In post 85, Maestro wrote:
I fail to see a slip.In post 80, no lunch wrote:Brassherald, why did you have to townslip of all people? You were already my strongest townread.
Related/WIK: I think people put far too much importance on things that they see as slips because they don't behave the same as other players.
Also WIK: brass still can be Town, but I think the only game I've ever played (maybe I modded it?) with him, he was an IC and idk if that helps or hurts my read. On the one hand, I have no context for Scum!brass, on the other hand I have a picture of ConfTown!brass who doesn't need to prove he's Town so...
The one thing that's skeeving me out about this continued meme thing you're doing is that I'm worried eventually it's going to be used to back up a claim or some bullshit like that. Unnecessary capital letters make me paranoid af.In post 82, brassherald wrote:-Brass Conservation Awkward Herald Awkward, Wildcard, Bubblegum Chewer, Non-reader-
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There was a wagon on Shoshin and I both with three votes.In post 258, Maestro wrote:[unv][/unv]
Consider me voting Shoshin because I see no commitment to... anytihng basically
HURT: Shoshin
I'm not realy clear on Cheeky's wagon but he's only a null for me forreasonsand I'm honestly really fknig pissed somebody thinks I'm WKing them since that's something I don't trhink I do that as either alignment so I'm almost tempted to say "fuckit, have your lynch if you want"
I townread Shosh and I’m not scum so my best guess is that he didn’t want to attract attention to himself, but I also have an inkling that maybe both wagons already had scum on them.-
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Also not for sure if I buy not posting as an excuse not to read Maestro. That’s a lot of waffling and Maestro had already posted enough to at least talk about the read.In post 251, brassherald wrote:
I disagree with Shoshin being town, I feel she has been scummy the entire game. And, in fact, after this you voted her, so seems you don't even agree with you.In post 231, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I wasn't praising his solving lol. I was saying that's more likely to come from town - where all his reads fall into place once he thinks he's caught a scum slip.In post 230, brassherald wrote:praising his solving when earlier you said no one had a case on you, but I doubt you are going to go into that.
Noone has a rational case on me. The meta thing was me meta skimming a few people and obviously not paying attention to how many games NL had listed. I looked at one game of hers and assumed that it was more. Oh well.
Anyway the point of this was to get you guys sorting each other - don't worry about sorting me, you can assume I'm scum. If I'm scum you'd want me to spew all my stances on others so there's no reason to shut me down early.
Brass do you agree/disagree with any of my other townreads and reasoning?
I don't really believe your reasoning for any of them, and feel there's lots of 180s from you that seem not like I remember you, that being said, I really don't have too much to add since my last set of reads.
Oka is moving down, if anything, since my last time posting, and, Maestro is both an enigma and a mystery right now because he's not posting, and that may be scum indicative, but now I have a four man scum team guess, and I need to find the odd man out and probably, when I have the time (tomorrow night) reevaluate the people in my town leans to make sure I'm operating based on their posts and not just my memory of their posts.
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1. I pushed the Aubrey lynch but got a little uncomfortable at how easily it formed, and at how he seemed more like frustrated town than scumIn post 473, brassherald wrote:Like, especially if an Aubrey lynch happens and Aubrey flips red, just remember who here is trying to push a counterwagon on me because I'm "not producing original content" like I'm some fucking monkey who as to jump through hoops for you and play a specific way rather than the way I have proven multiple times works and gets results.
2. You have been putting off a reads post for a while, like 5-6 days, and just stoking random paranoia and asking empty questions when you do bother to post
3. You have some damning interactions with Maestro and
4. Why are you voting me again? Can you articulate it yourself?
No one answer this for him.
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Ohhh I am dipping into my 20 reserve for this.In post 476, brassherald wrote:
First, before I answer a question for you, don't fucking tell people not to answer for me, I can handle myself, I have always made it absolutely clear that I will answer any questions posed towards me and people should fucking know that when a question is posed towards a person, that this person should answer without needing help. Like, we don't need your holier than thou bullshit, so cut it out.In post 474, Slaxx wrote:
1. I pushed the Aubrey lynch but got a little uncomfortable at how easily it formed, and at how he seemed more like frustrated town than scumIn post 473, brassherald wrote:Like, especially if an Aubrey lynch happens and Aubrey flips red, just remember who here is trying to push a counterwagon on me because I'm "not producing original content" like I'm some fucking monkey who as to jump through hoops for you and play a specific way rather than the way I have proven multiple times works and gets results.
2. You have been putting off a reads post for a while, like 5-6 days, and just stoking random paranoia and asking empty questions when you do bother to post
3. You have some damning interactions with Maestro and
4. Why are you voting me again? Can you articulate it yourself?
No one answer this for him.
I think that is my last post today, reached 10.
Cheeky was overly aggressive in a way I have never seen her act as town. Her slot was suspect when she left, already. You, then come in, make a shitty ass tiered read list which are the worst fucking thing to be created ever on this site, yours is extra shitty since you gave no supporting information with it. 309 Now, with no gaddamn analysis, 379 names Oka as town. With very low analysis, not taking into account how most of the day so far has been a FUCKING WEEKEND where posting is generally low, you decide I'm scum. That's scum indicative behavior, making bad analysis based on nothing, zilch, nada. And then trying to call me out for no analysis?
I'm voting you because you are scum.
You obviously are not reading to try to determine my alignment as much as you are trying to push me for a lynch: because my explanations for a lot of those reads are in the NEXT POST UP in my ISO. You're totally ignoring the associative tells as part of the case I made on you, and instead attacking the issue about the time, but why promise something and then continue not to deliver? Makes you look intentionally opaque. How long are we supposed to let you coast without producing content? Seriously?
And I told everyone why I thought Oka was town. That post about similar bandwagons being on both players was pretty townie, which was the reason I referenced. I also highlighted exactly why I thought Maestro was scum as well. I have beenincrediblytransparent with virtually every post I have made.-
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That's a huge fucking copout.In post 479, brassherald wrote:
Doesn't matter, he's the flagpole. Lynch him, we win.In post 478, OkaPoka wrote:who's the partner then?-
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#364 and #379 literally explain the transition. Also, once again, if you bothered to actually sort and not just drive a lynch, you would see #379 is in response to U2's #378 in which he quotes a specific post and gives a reason for Oka town. And yes, the logic of those two wagons being the same seems to come more from town actually paying attention to wagon patterns. I think in general that is harder to manufacture as scum. What more is there to say about that? All I did was add "That is harder to manufacture as scum" which I felt was implied with the shift to a townread.
P Edit: Yeah I don't buy that you actually believe what you are saying. As Oka said, Shoshin would have been the flagbearer if her and I were paired up, and I find it hard to believe you wouldn't think that if you were actually trying to interpret and sort the players.-
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Wow, you are most definitely not discussing this in good faith. What is your bar on how much analysis is needed to change a read? I gave two reasons: one of my own, and one associative tell U2 plucked out. AFTER a scum flip, no less. I bet if you went back and looked at all the ISO's you would find read changes that were way less organic and transparent than that, particularly from those who might have been null or town reading Maestro. It is clear you are picking that because it is all you can find in my ISO, because if you were using it to actually scumhunt, you'd have a lot bigger pool, starting with U2, who used that argument to waiver on Oka.
Also, notice we started out talking about my entire readslist (under false pretenses) and not anything Brass-related, which could have been easily mitigated by anyone actually trying to sort my slot. Then we moved specifically to my shift on Oka (also under false pretenses), and now we are talking about how my level of analysis on Oka specifically just didn't cut it to justify a change in read. Also note that while calling my reads shallow, Brass was inspired to vote me after a few lines of dialogue with Oka (yes, I know he suspected my slot before, but he is pushing a "He's the flagpole" narrative based on this).
Here's the thing: Brass is not interested in figuring out my alignment because he knows it. If you read the last two pages it is clear his sole purpose was to drive a lynch, and apparently he thought he could double-down on the points he was making.
And now we are in to...just complete bad faith arguments that look way more like someone who kept putting in more chips and is now pot-committed on a poorly constructed argument, and some half-ass gambit thrown in.
"I'd prefer you lynch me rather than..."
Yeah, I hope they call that bluff.-
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...really? The last two-three pages pretty much sums it up.In post 494, no lunch wrote:Can someone explain scum-brassherald to me?-
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Does Maestro open up distancing like that?In post 84, Maestro wrote:
ahaha noIn post 81, theslimer3 wrote:I dont have any reads. For me it's still the beginning of the game.
no that's bad - here have rope
VOTE: slimer
I'm here now gang, forgot that I didn't need to be SO EXTREMELY CONCERNED about post count that I would just sit there paralyzed waiting for a good opportunity to make some huge meaningful post... also, forgot which game I'm in was the geriatric so that helps, amirite?-
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Also it was an L-1 vote...idk, how do we feel about slime's reaction to it? I'm feeling NAI.In post 88, theslimer3 wrote:
so sorry that I dont play the game like you. Thanks for putting me at l-1 because or it though.In post 84, Maestro wrote:
ahaha noIn post 81, theslimer3 wrote:I dont have any reads. For me it's still the beginning of the game.
no that's bad - here have rope
VOTE: slimer
I'm here now gang, forgot that I didn't need to be SO EXTREMELY CONCERNED about post count that I would just sit there paralyzed waiting for a good opportunity to make some huge meaningful post... also, forgot which game I'm in was the geriatric so that helps, amirite?
is there something they're doing that should make me feel that way?In post 83, Shoshin wrote:
Can you at least tell that NL's town? It's pretty obvious.In post 81, theslimer3 wrote:I dont have any reads. For me it's still the beginning of the game-
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Aubrey I'm not as for sure on but wouldn't scoff at the lynch. The Maestro wagon was easy because of the severity of that slip and the fact he self-hammered, this one felt a little too quick given the content I laid out.In post 511, u r a person 2 wrote:so what is your read on aubrey right now, Slaxx?
It had been you leading the push
then you said the wagon felt too easy
where are you at now-
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