"Don't look too town as scum"

[the worst]

I think there's merit in checking yourself (don't be like the only person holding the torch if the rest of the game is dead as fuck) but you can ALWAYS outplay still being alive in LyLo

I think I err on the side of criticism of this advice too, Flubber

also I'm pretty sure the moral of this story is to always lynch mastina as soon as possible....

[the worst]

I don't see how a scum can look too town. If your behavior resembles that of a townie, regardless of alignment, clearly that's a sign of good play.

There's a better case to make to not look too town if you have a Town power role seeing as you're not trying to gain the attention of scums for a night kill.

To an extent it's nice to be kinda nulltown as a town power role. But then you get into a situation where perceptive scum are like "...why is this townie fpsing" and end up just shooting you.

I'd actually argue it's better to be meh-townie only really as a VT who feels that they're playing badly; if you can draw an ill motivated wagon and force people to play their hand to lynch you, you're up. and if you can obvtown under pressure that's cool. and if you look FPSy and eat a night kill to protect power roles + other strong town, that is all gains.

I think there's merit in checking yourself

I believe you meant to continue with "before wrecking yourself."

Nobody else makes me laugh at work so consistently.

[the worst]

this thread reminds me of tchill13's signature

[the worst]

"Always

Don't

look too

town as

scum"

[the worst]

I'd say that "looking town" in a lot of peoples' minds is a function of consistent engagement, making sense, and sounding like an intelligent human being.

None of those things are actually towntells, of course, and in terms of many peoples' metas, are explicit scumtells.

note to self: don't roll scum against mhsmith0
he's already onto you

[the worst]

i think very, very few people have ever deliberately held back their towngame to improve their scumgame

i think a very large portion of the playerlist has a higher scum winrate than town winrate and that has no correlation at all with any sandbagging at all.

Being against the spirit of the game is one thing but it's a lot of unfun misplaced energy acrually doing this across your career.

I'd be pretty offended of being accused of it without trying to get in my head first. (and I candidly think there are grounds to mistake me for someone who does this. )

[the worst]

i think very, very few people have ever deliberately held back their towngame to improve their scumgame

Deliberately? Sure, I'm not saying those people

consciously

go through the steps I outlined. But, there's generally one or two people per game who just lurk or fluff post or otherwise don't overtly scum hunt.

unfortunately people who don't like actually playing the game exist but don't confuse them for different playstyles - I don't think there are an average of 1-2 people a game who aren't playing for the sake of it.

[the worst]

I'm pretty sure that's closer to suggesting people should compromise scumgames in order to be easier to read..?

[the worst]

If you change your meta so that you're more difficult to identify as town, then yes, you're not playing as best you can as town.

wouldn't deliberately avoiding changing your meta as scum such that you are easier to identify as town be counted as playing towards a future win condition?

It’s more if you’re should be trying to be townread if scum or town. If you tank your town game to help your scum game or vice versa you’re not playing the best you can.

concur completely

my scumgame isn't an imitation of my towngame
fight me