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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:08 pm

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I'm not an authority on reading anyone by any means. I just wanted to make some pressure there to see what others had to say but it's been a lotta nothin.
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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:08 pm

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There's always time to try somethin new! :P
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:10 pm

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That's fine; you said you didn't like my "defense" so I'd like to talk about that. :P
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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:15 pm

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You're like "I'm not underwhelming as scum" or whatever
That doesn't work for me.
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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:17 pm

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I haven't been underwhelming objectively as scum in all my scumgames.
Being underwhelming then should not be AI in itself, no?
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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:20 pm

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"I've been bad as both alignments so you can't push me."

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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:24 pm

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The opposite, I'm saying I have *NOT* been "underwhelming" as scum.
And being "underwhelming" in the sense I'm speaking of isn't bad necessarily, just that I haven't aggressively pushed anywhere yet. Why is that bad?
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:25 pm

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And sure, push me - but also expect me to defend against a push. :P
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:26 pm

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I dunno man, I don't like you going to that as your first line of defense.
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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:27 pm

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Contrast with Creature, who tends to post with a lot more interest as town especially under pressure, and hates playing scum and flakes as a result.

His lurking is AI there, significantly.
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:28 pm

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Aight then but when creature flips town what do we do
VOTE: Creature

Cus I think the meta arguments against creature are lame AF.
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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:29 pm

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In post 2583, Varsoon wrote:I dunno man, I don't like you going to that as your first line of defense.
I defended from both angles - that in itself it isn't a good tool to read me, and that if he's referring to my inactivity, I'll pick up on that after some time, given I have a few leads I'm waiting to engage on.
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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 2585, Varsoon wrote:Aight then but when creature flips town what do we do
VOTE: Creature

Cus I think the meta arguments against creature are lame AF.
I don't think Creature is the only wagon we should explore, I think you were pocketed and scum was definitely on the STW wagon, that's what I want to look at.
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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:33 pm

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Questions I want answered:
1. FL's read on me
2. ProFlavor's read on Creature
3. Mew's read on Creature, and why he didn't comment when that wagon was forming
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:24 pm

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In post 2524, pinturicchio wrote:@A50 Yeah the "I know it wasn't us who blocked Varsoon's shot" makes sense and yes, you've been more open with your role than Mew, but you think Mew should be more open too? And also, why did you want to be noticed by moving a lot? I don't get that part.
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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:27 pm

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In post 2525, u r a person 2 wrote:maybe varsoon should shoot creature rather than flip
Maybe he shouldm but if he misses I'd be lynching both Creature and Mew still. The only benefit to that is if Varsoon hits Creature, confirming him as a townie (a dead one by then though) and I will stop tunneling Mew.

Seriously though, the closer the target is the better because we can tell no one in-between intercepted the shot.

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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 2590, Almost Chara wrote:Maybe he shouldm but if he misses I'd be lynching both Creature and Mew still. The only benefit to that is if Varsoon hits Creature, confirming him as a townie (a dead one by then though) and I will stop tunneling Mew.

Seriously though, the closer the target is the better because we can tell no one in-between intercepted the shot.
I hear what you're saying, but do we really want a lynch prior to varsoon shooting?

that seems counter-intuitive
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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:32 pm

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Why should anyone with a PR be more open with their role?

Also, A50 (Who I'm pretty sure should just be I50 by now) can you link the town games to which you are referring?

P-edit: I don't want to lynch prior to shooting, Varsoon should be an extra town motivated kill, I feel like we should take maximum advantage of that, thus why I have been pushing for him to take a shot

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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:34 pm

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yeah, exactly. If I remember right T&L, ya'll were thinking a kochiki shot might be good, ya?

pintu, what do you think, creature shot? kochiki shot? tequila shot?
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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:35 pm

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In post 2523, Creature wrote:Who did Varsoon attempt to shoot?
In post 2549, Creature wrote:I'm not gonna read the entire thread just to get to the point Varsoon FPS Shoshin.
I thought you weren't reading. How did you know who Varsoon shot when nobody responded to your 2523??

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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:39 pm

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In post 2591, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 2590, Almost Chara wrote:Maybe he shouldm but if he misses I'd be lynching both Creature and Mew still. The only benefit to that is if Varsoon hits Creature, confirming him as a townie (a dead one by then though) and I will stop tunneling Mew.

Seriously though, the closer the target is the better because we can tell no one in-between intercepted the shot.
I hear what you're saying, but do we really want a lynch prior to varsoon shooting?

that seems counter-intuitive
It is HIS decision. We can't force him to shoot if he doesn't want to.

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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:41 pm

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In post 2592, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Why should anyone with a PR be more open with their role?

Also, A50 (Who I'm pretty sure should just be I50 by now) can you link the town games to which you are referring?

P-edit: I don't want to lynch prior to shooting, Varsoon should be an extra town motivated kill, I feel like we should take maximum advantage of that, thus why I have been pushing for him to take a shot

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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 2593, u r a person 2 wrote:yeah, exactly. If I remember right T&L, ya'll were thinking a kochiki shot might be good, ya?

pintu, what do you think, creature shot? kochiki shot? tequila shot?
Both Kokichi and tequila. But tequila not yet since I'm still recovering... Maybe a little one? :lol:

But yeah, Kokichi, both for positioning and for killing someone who's probably scum with low content. jjh is in that category too.
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:15 pm

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yes - didn't jjh promise reads?
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:17 pm

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In post 2492, jjh927 wrote:Will actually catch up today
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