Open 746: Bus Service [Game Over]


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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:42 am

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In post 173, TTTT wrote:did you just change your avatar while I was mid-read?
damn you.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:33 am

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:o Who replaced the bus time table with a vote count?

Votecount: 1.2
(4) Eliot Ness voted by:
Eyes without a face, Lovebird, rb, Sashaddin.
(2) Clemency voted by:
BuJaber, Flubbernugget.
(2) Lovebird voted by:
Eliot Ness, mcqueen.
(2) Eyes without a face voted by:
Akarin, TTTT.
(1) FallenDown voted by:
Clemency.
(1) Flubbernugget voted by:
ReaperofSouls.

(1) Not voting:
FallenDown.

With 13 players alive, 7 votes are needed for a lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-02-05 14:00:00).
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:05 am

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In post 172, rb wrote:sure go ahead and say it
Lovebird kept talking with other people. Elliott has 80% of his iso only speaking to Lovebird. I have been accused of this when I was scum once and barely got out of it.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:50 am

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Sorry for the absence, I won't bore you with excuses. I am pretty tied up the rest of today but am off tomorrow with few plans and plan to dive into the ISOs on everyone and see if my few initial reads have changed with more content.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:44 am

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In post 146, rb wrote:
In post 115, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 104, rb wrote:is flubber bad enough to do this as scum
You know my scum game
one game isn't knowledge

plus you know that i know

i don't consider it relevant
I've never seen a single example of competence decreasing over time
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 151, mcqueen wrote:
In post 144, rb wrote:
In post 125, Lovebird wrote:Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot
at first i preferred akarin, but after this page i also like this

VOTE: Elliot
no, this is better

VOTE: Lovebird

I doubt Lovebird and Eliot are bussing here, so if one flips scum, to me the other is cleared. And out of the two, this is where I feel most comfortable applying pressure/ voting for the moment.

I also don't understand why Eliot is aquiring a wagon while Lovebird has received minimum pressure.
I think you're too quick to deny a possibility of scum theatrics but otherwise I agree here
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:48 am

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Yeah I need to revisit eliot and lovebird
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 179, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 146, rb wrote:
In post 115, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 104, rb wrote:is flubber bad enough to do this as scum
You know my scum game
one game isn't knowledge

plus you know that i know

i don't consider it relevant
I've never seen a single example of competence decreasing over time
'bad enough' is just general concept of 'is this within flubber's scum range?'

a single game played with you isn't meta knowledge
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:59 am

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TTTT why are you voting eyes?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:30 am

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Okay quick read thru, intial impressions>
Akarin
Seems to be pursuing a very reachy argument on Eyes w/o a face.

Bujaber
Very serious out of gate. Jumping on the Clemency/Flubber joke?? claims. Shows genuine frustration that normally comes from town. and . Towns Eyes W/O a Face. Why? Leaning town at this point on BuJaber.

Eliot Ness
Latches onto Lovebird and . Spends almost all of thread time on this pursuit. Very tunnelly.

Eyes Without A Face
not alot to go on. Seems a tick defensive in response to being voted on. But find it NAI.

Fallendown
Seems inexperienced. How many games have you played @Fallendown. everyone is scum until cleared.

Flubbernugget
Just a question for those that have played with him before, is this how he plays? one game isn't meta.

Lovebird
I find almost TWTBAW. But I have no game experience with him. I agree on Akarin. First impressions are that they are asking questions and keeping things stirred up. But I also see a little defecting at times with answers to questions. But at this point I agree with someone elses assessment that she is interacting with alot of players whereas Eliot is tunneling only on her. Which I normally find scumtell this early, especially given the reason for the pursuit.

mcueen
At this point i disagree with . At this point I get more of a town feel from Lovebird than Eliot. But that doesn't mean I am correct in that read as I have some doubts also.

rb
Hmm at this point its alot of short answers and sheeping of Lovebird. Alot of post but not alot of meat.

Sashaddin
Townie post. Agree on the Lovebird/Eliot Ness at this point. agree on the tunneling. Sorta mindmeld going on some things.

TTTT
Why?

Clemency
Honestly didn't read yet. His ISO always makes my head hurt. Usually takes a bit and the read on him comes.

Good feels so far
BuJaber
Sashaddin

Not so good feels
Akarin
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:28 am

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I feel like the only reason people think my argument is reachy is because people keep misinterpreting it and then I try to explain it more and that level of explanation of any tell would seem reachy.

If I asked the two of you to explain the only-interacting-with-one-person read over and over and kept calling it crazy and you explained it with more and more words, I think it would be equally easy to call it reachy.

There are good reasons to suspect people jumping on (what seems on page 1 like) easy lynchbait
before
there is a wagon. (Because of bad reaction to pressure.)

This isn't a reach and it's not crazy. It's also not the strongest case ever, but it was strong for that point in the game.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:28 am

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At this point the reason I keep pushing it is the almost consensus dismissal.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:32 am

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In post 153, Sashaddin wrote:When Lovebird says Eyes is Towny, Akarin jumps on the occasion to vote naked on him. That early in the game, it made me think of an early distancing move from her.
It wasn't a naked vote. It was poorly explained, sure, but it wasn't naked. (Mouse over).

And isn't this a good argument for you to vote Eyes?
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:48 am

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In post 187, Akarin wrote:It wasn't a naked vote. It was poorly explained, sure, but it wasn't naked. (Mouse over).
So "no picture" -> anti-bully ranger. Feels naked to me still... And no, telling someone to get a picture isn't lynch material to me.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:27 am

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In post 185, Akarin wrote:There are good reasons to suspect people jumping on (what seems on page 1 like) easy lynchbait before there is a wagon. (Because of bad reaction to pressure.)
OK. How do I know there "will" be a wagon? And how do I even know they are lynchbait in advance? This is only my 2nd game here and I don't know any of you and you don't know me either, so please explain why you consider Fallen to be lynchbaity and why you think I knew that they are.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:50 am

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I am fed up with this Akarin tunnel, so I will propose this: Cop should check me tonight. Since I know the result on me I trust that there will be nothing to claim tomorrow, so the Cop will not have to out. Once we've established the Cop has no guilty we proceed to lynch Akarin.

The good thing is scum messing with the Cop by shooting me still confirms me as Town and we still lynch Akarin after my flip, and of course the Busdriver is Town so scum cannot mess with the result obtained on me.

Please nobody discuss. I am not fishing for responses. Just do it.. or don't.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 188, Sashaddin wrote:And no, telling someone to get a picture isn't lynch material to me.
At a certain point it this starts to feel like deliberate misrepresentation.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:58 am

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VOTE: Eyes
VOTE: Eyes
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 184, ReaperOfSouls wrote:Okay quick read thru, intial impressions>
Akarin
Seems to be pursuing a very reachy argument on Eyes w/o a face.

Bujaber
Very serious out of gate. Jumping on the Clemency/Flubber joke?? claims. Shows genuine frustration that normally comes from town. and . Towns Eyes W/O a Face. Why? Leaning town at this point on BuJaber.

Eliot Ness
Latches onto Lovebird and . Spends almost all of thread time on this pursuit. Very tunnelly.

Eyes Without A Face
not alot to go on. Seems a tick defensive in response to being voted on. But find it NAI.

Fallendown
Seems inexperienced. How many games have you played @Fallendown. everyone is scum until cleared.

Flubbernugget
Just a question for those that have played with him before, is this how he plays? one game isn't meta.

Lovebird
I find almost TWTBAW. But I have no game experience with him. I agree on Akarin. First impressions are that they are asking questions and keeping things stirred up. But I also see a little defecting at times with answers to questions. But at this point I agree with someone elses assessment that she is interacting with alot of players whereas Eliot is tunneling only on her. Which I normally find scumtell this early, especially given the reason for the pursuit.

mcueen
At this point i disagree with . At this point I get more of a town feel from Lovebird than Eliot. But that doesn't mean I am correct in that read as I have some doubts also.

rb
Hmm at this point its alot of short answers and sheeping of Lovebird. Alot of post but not alot of meat.

Sashaddin
Townie post. Agree on the Lovebird/Eliot Ness at this point. agree on the tunneling. Sorta mindmeld going on some things.

TTTT
Why?

Clemency
Honestly didn't read yet. His ISO always makes my head hurt. Usually takes a bit and the read on him comes.

Good feels so far
BuJaber
Sashaddin

Not so good feels
Akarin
Flubbernugget
Eliot Ness
i've only ever seen lists like this come from scum

lovebird can you change your vote so i can vote bujaber too
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:59 am

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In post 183, BuJaber wrote:TTTT why are you voting eyes?
my innards jiggle a little bit whenever I read his posts
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 193, rb wrote:i've only ever seen lists like this come from scum
I disagree that this always comes from scum but it does seem a bit early for the full readslist with linked posts
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 157, rb wrote:
In post 152, mcqueen wrote:And to clarify - I feel like Lovebird's decisions and reads so far have been with as little reasoning as possible. The vote on Eliot seemed to come out of left-field (at least FMPOV), and when asked she said, "I felt like it."

I'm gonna fencesit a little bit and say that I'm not putting full trust in Eliot here, but I feel like his actions have better purpose behind them, enough to sway my vote to Lovebird.
is purposefulness townie? why?
no. Purposefulness was a bad word to use. Scum can (and do) have purpose, too.

Genuine intent feels better. Been a few days since I read the interaction (I could use a reread of the thread), but Lovebird felt ‘dodgy,’ not in the sense that she didn’t answer the questions, but her reluctance to give a direct answer. Eliot didn’t do that.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:20 pm

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In post 158, rb wrote:lovebird is receiving minimum pressure because she's playing like town
how?
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 161, Lovebird wrote:
In post 149, mcqueen wrote:Why insinuate I'm defending a buddy? Clearly, I just wanted to push you for reads that had no explanation/ didn't make sense.
Huh? I said the exact opposite of that :)

Oh, I think it's scummy then. If you cared more about reasons why they're town rather than pushing for early townreads, it'd be towny.
The bottom doesn’t make sense. I DO care about reasons for them being town; I asked you, “why are these players town?” When did I push for early townreads out of you or anyone else? It’s weird you had a townread that early, is all.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:24 pm

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In post 162, Lovebird wrote:
In post 152, mcqueen wrote:And to clarify - I feel like Lovebird's decisions and reads so far have been with as little reasoning as possible. The vote on Eliot seemed to come out of left-field (at least FMPOV), and when asked she said, "I felt like it."

I'm gonna fencesit a little bit and say that I'm not putting full trust in Eliot here, but I feel like his actions have better purpose behind them, enough to sway my vote to Lovebird.
Ya, I did feel like it.

What's wrong with that?
so you’re proving my point that your reasons for your actions are nonexistant. On the surface, it seems like you’re reaction fishing tbqh, but when you repeatedly do that, it becomes more scummy as time goes on (first instance: asking me why I cared about your early townreads).
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