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[Springtrap]

wats wrong with asking about more PT cops? I was very curious

Most people naturally assume it's scummy to try and out all the PRs, particularly when so many claims show who scum can kill.

[singletonking]

I thought you all were clearing Overkill becayse of the neighborhood?

I've been on NotMaf because frankly I doubt it's a Masonry, but instead another Neighborhood that's claiming to be a Masonry since they'd automatically get hung if they also claimed to be neighbors.

That or they're scum.

That's silly, scum will never fakeclaim masons because it's too risky.

Also why does faking a neighbourhood as a masonry make them scum?

[singletonking]

VOTE: texcat

I can go here for now. I still don't like how she jumped on Overkill.

First you didn't like how I tunneled Overkill, and now you don't like that I jumped on him. Can you have this both ways?

LOL. Sort of like you jumped off the Overkill wagon cause it was moving too fast and then you jumped off the Trekkie wagon cause it was moving too slow.

Yes. You partially gave townpoints to Overkill for the nightkill but retracted it when you saw the Overkill wagon.

Also the second part is inaccurate, I didn't jump off the wagon because the wagon was growing too slow, but because

the game

was too slow.

[singletonking]

we have too people voting on masons and not scumhunting

those should be the only 2 wagons

take away st pr claim and it’s very scummy

if town has masons and neighbors and Neighborizer pt cop works just as well with town as scum, so we need to stop believing the claim and also letting him not do anything productive

believing the claim is something we disagree on, lack of useful play and strong stances should be something we all can nod yes

read ST iso as someone who isn’t claimed and tell me the read

Agreed that Springtrap is very scummy barring the claim. But are you willing to risk losing a town PR on the chance he's town?
Let him live a little more, it'll probably sort itself out

[texcat]

Agreed that Springtrap is very scummy barring the claim. But are you willing to risk losing a town PR on the chance he's town?
Let him live a little more, it'll probably sort itself out

I agree with this. We're not lynching Springtrap today. And we're not lynching a mason today. I don't understand why Trekkie and Springtrap are voting for a mason.

[0verki11]

im still sticking with a Trekkie wagon, they havent convinced me to change my mind

[Vorkuta]

Guh dead line pressure forces us to compromise on a lynch.
Realistically- I'm not lynching a PR or a mason claim as they'll be easier to sort in the upcoming days.
That leaves texcat or trekkie as a wagon that can go through today. I'd rather texcat but express an INTENT TO HAMMER trekkie provided therr are no more claims.

[singletonking]

Eh deadline is in less than one day, I think we need to be getting close to a lynch here. I still like a Trekkie lynch
UNVOTE: texcat
VOTE: Trekkie99

L-1

Trekkie, claim

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Trekkie99

[Springtrap]

Clem didn't get a chance to claim.

VOTE: Trekkie

We wouldn't hang 2 PRs in a row, I think. No town is that horrible at reads.

[Elbirn]

VC 2.05

Nujabes - Modal Soul

votes

[6] Trekkie99

:

Delta Diamond, Not_Mafia, 0verki11, PvtUrist, singletonking, Springtrap

[2] 0verki11

:

Gamma Emerald, texcat

[2] Not_Mafia

:

Trekkie99, Springtrap

[1] texcat

:

Vorkuta

[1] Delta Diamond

:

Jenga

[0] Not Voting

:

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-01-29 01:15:00)

Mod Notes

: A Lynch has been achieved! standby for flip.

[Elbirn]

Trekkie 99 has been lynched! He was a

Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Trekkie99's Role PM

Vanilla Townie

Welcome,

Trekkie99

.
You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Your only weapons are your voice and vote.

You win if all threats to

the

town

are eliminated, and at least one

town

player lives.

Confirm via PM.

Game thread is here.

Night 2 begins now and will last for 48 hours

((expired on 2019-01-30 14:15:00))

[Elbirn]

An update regarding the deadline: I will not actually be available at the deadline time due to irl reasons keeping me mobile the entirety of that day, a fact I've only just remembered. While night will be for only 48 hours for submitting actions, I will not be able to process day 3 start until Wednesday night around 10:30PM EST

Just want you all to be aware, transparency is nice and I'd hate for anyone to be eagerly awaiting day start to be disappointed for an extra 8 hours

[Elbirn]

Not_Mafia has been killed! He was a

Town

Mason

Spoiler: Not_Mafia's Role PM

Town Mason

Welcome,

Not_Mafia

.
You are a

Town

Mason

.

You know that your masonry, comprised of

REDACTED

, is confirmed to be town-aligned.

At any time, you may talk with your masonry in

this private topic

.

You win if all threats to

the

town

are eliminated, and at least one

town

player lives.

Confirm via PM.

Game thread is here.

[Elbirn]

VC 3.00

Ogre You Asshole - Ukareteiru Hito

votes

[9] Not Voting

: Vorkuta, PvtUrist, Delta Diamond, 0verki11, Jenga, Springtrap, Gamma Emerald, texcat, singletonking

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 3 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-12 00:00:00)

Mod Notes

: Day 3 starts now!

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: Springtrap

1v1 me

maf would kill the person capable of getting more innos

not masons

[Springtrap]

Okay then. Singletonking also doesn't have a PT. So him and Gamma are clear.

VOTE: Delta Diamond

So Delta, probably Jenga, and one other. That's the scum team.

[Jenga]

Delta -- if Spring is scum, then where is the town power? Or do you think this is a weird mountainous and town has no power other than masons?

Spring -- why did you check Singletonking? Explain your reasoning there.

[Delta Diamond]

masons is a lot of power

Neighborizer is weaker

read on ST is still mainly actual play but scum pt cop makes sense in the setup

and the fact they’re alive makes zero sense

like I know I probably lose this push today so what do I gain keeping him alive as scum to get more innos?

[0verki11]

scum team is either Jenga/Diamond or Springtrap/Gamma (maybe Singleton as well)

[Springtrap]

For Jenga's question: STK seems obvious in retrospect if you remember why I checked Gamma. He's also been grilling my strategy I had this game and almost made it fail. I was confirming to myself it was either him setting up a mislynch on me or if he really was an annoyed townie. It was the latter since that's what my check indicates.

Obviously a PR is something your supposed to kill, but if that PR is doing nothing for the gamestate and actively making themselves suspicious for 2 gamedays, then it's never the worst idea to make it so people don't believe him. It makes it more likely to seem suspicious the longer they're alive with no Guilties, which I unfortantely don't have.

And to Overkill: unlike Pvt, your a neighbor, meaning your still possibly scum that is immune to my check. You leaving me alive makes more sense then if I was alive and there was only a Mason around.

So Delta is the scapegoat here, since he's either new or an Alt, and either Jenga (who really hasn't contributed to town and been mainly null-scum to me) or Overkill (someone who benefits leaving me alive since he's immune to my check) is his partner. I'd say both of them are it, but nothing indicates to me Overkill and Kenya are at all connected.

[Jenga]

I don't understand why you're limiting to just those people. You have literally never said "texcat" or "Vorkuta" in your iso as far as I can tell. Why are you excluding them from your reasoning?

[Springtrap]

Tex hammered Clemency because of a deadline crunch and probably expected to get flak for it. But honestly that panic seemed townie and unfortunately reasonable coming from how Clem interracted win people. It's more likely for someone who pushed Clem to be scum then Tex, who sheeped when time was out and no other option was available.

As for Vorkuta... That's something I'm not revealing yet, but he said something that makes me know he isn't TMI scum. And hes been a general boon towards town all game anyway.

[Vorkuta]

Ok so now we can officially confirm Urist as town...
Massclaim today? Guys if we don't do something game changing, the deadline will be up in our face again and we'll have to rush lynch YET-AGAIN.

@Delta- I get your issue behind Springtrap still being alive, however that can be sorted tomorrow when he gives us a read.
(9 players w/ probably 3 scum remaining and hopefully no bs 2 townies dying at once)
Until then- would scum!springtrap be clearing his scum buddies or authentic townies to blend in? All it takes is one wrong step and that's that.

So now- (assuming we're still not mass claiming...)
I'm going to assume that all of Springtrap's claims are legit (a.k.a today I'm not going to support a wagon inside Urist, Gamma, Singleton, and said PT cop) which leaves Delta, Jenga, 0verkill, and texcat. (3/4 of these are scum...??)

-I've already made my position on texcat known yesterday (#669 #681) Strongest Scumread out of the 4 (which isn't saying much..)
-Delta is probably going to fall under my 'being bad is a town tell'- Null-town (Weakest town read because their posts are anti-town)
-I really like Jaina's analysis posts every now and then

because they help explain this hard game for me

.
-0verkill I've read as town ever since the neighbor outing as well as Munch dying as "it won't make sense for scum!overkill to kill his neighbor" rings true in the back of my mind.

Now my problem is that I've been giving people passes for "there's no way scum would make it to end-game with this

bad

play", but we're pretty damn close to endgame so

Let's massclaim

Also as an aside- would adding scum but not giving them a PT be a bastardly thing to come from the mod?

[singletonking]

Clem didn't get a chance to claim.

VOTE: Trekkie

We wouldn't hang 2 PRs in a row, I think. No town is that horrible at reads.

Springtrap, why did you quickhammer yesterday?