Open 73 - Assassin in the Palace (Game Over!) before 595

[Rishi]

Vote Count

Oman – 2 (PokerFace, dahill1)
farside22 – 1 (Oman)

Not voting: jtdyer, Shamrock, farside22, The Jester

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

[The Jester]

But with the same context of why you modkilled Korlash, wouldn't Oman be modkilled for saying

[quote=Oman]To tell you the truth, Korlash could've been fakeclaiming guard as king.

NOTE: I am not saying he is or isn't, just that he could've.[/quote]

Did Korlash need to have that note to be safe? That seems like a Wifom and you just said you didn't want this to turn into a WIFOM test. Logically and fairly I see no reason why Oman has not been modkilled for the same reason as Korlash.

If all is fair in love and war, they should at least also be fair in mafia games.

Vote: dahill1

I don't see that avatar yet.

[The Jester]

EBWOP:

To tell you the truth, Korlash could've been fakeclaiming guard as king.

NOTE: I am not saying he is or isn't, just that he could've.

WIFOM-Fest* (Not test)

[dahill1]

Vote: dahill1

I don't see that avatar yet.

..um
we're past the random stage

[Oman]

That doesn't have "No apparent reason" Its obvious. I said it because you are.

Setting up lynches ahead of time,

Our "speedlynch" strat would have suggested this is optimal

starting a bunch of wagons (The second assassin wagon hoped insane style in the large AiTP2),

Hey, for once a game that encourages wagoning like I enjoy doing. How do I not take advantage of that. Also, as assasin I'd be wary of starting wagons. Especially because starting a wagon on a king can give away an assasin in a heartbeat. Even though it could be a guard throwing the scum off.

giving suspicion lists (see the first assassin in AiTP1),

I find them as good. For one thing it can point to assasin in the wrong direction. I don't think you understand we can't just lynch guards from now.

And talk about flip flop. You are first to realize speed lynching is good. Then you say its bad.

You've never come up with a new thought during a mafia game? You've never established something then figured out its wrong?

Look at it this way:
Assasin lynched D1 - 1/8 chance of hitting king.

Speedlynch a few guards
Assasin lynched D4 (cause you'll lynch a guard today (me)) - 1/5 chance

Miss him for a while longer - 1/3, 1/2 etc.

So yeah, I figured out we can't just blindly speedlynch.

I think we can all agree that we need to hear from Shamrock before we proceed.

[Rishi]

EBWOP:

To tell you the truth, Korlash could've been fakeclaiming guard as king.

NOTE: I am not saying he is or isn't, just that he could've.

WIFOM-Fest* (Not test)

I see a distinction. Korlash named a specific person as the king. It's true that I said speculation can lead to a modkill, but I didn't want to do two of them and Korlash's statement was more egregious. Besides, let's not go ret-conning. Day 2 is already over.

Also, in the future, I would appreciate if these points were brought up in a PM rather than in public. Thanks.

[dahill1]

unvote

i'm unsure about oman now..

[Oman]

Why are you unsure about me now? I think I know, but tell me anyway.

[dahill1]

Why are you unsure about me now? I think I know, but tell me anyway.

if you are thinking what i'm thinking, then we best not say it aloud

[Oman]

*Wink*

[Oman]

BTW: Dahil is pretty much off my list now too.

Can we lynch Farside soon?

[jtdyer]

I would ask why dahill is off your list, but we shouldn't give assassin much info. But I was gonna

vote: dahill1

for reasons explained by korlash.

[dahill1]

I would ask why dahill is off your list, but we shouldn't give assassin much info. But I was gonna

vote: dahill1

for reasons explained by korlash.

which were...?

[Oman]

Dahill picked up that I was a guard. If he used the quite obvious crumb i dropped, he's guard as can be.

[dahill1]

(posting this in all games)

away til tuesday

[farside22]

Oman. From what I can see most people were in support of a quick lynch. Your logic against me fails.

On V/LA till Tuesday

[Oman]

Yeah but quick != stupid.

[PokerFace]

When you play this game on IRC you swim in alot of WIFOM. Shenanigans are allowed there and are effective since those games are in real time when confusion is strongest. In the past forum runnings of this game the style is keep your mouth shut and try to find the accurate lynches quickly. The style Oman wants to use here allows for wifom along with the quick lynches. Its different and yet a combination of the two. I guess we can give it a shot, but at the rate things are going no one is going to get lynched unless everybody that hasn't posted in awhile does. I probably owe Korlash an apology for the general tactical disagreement.

unvote

@jtdyer

I would ask why dahill is off your list, but we shouldn't give assassin much info. But I was gonna

vote: dahill1

for reasons explained by korlash.

which were...?

For which reasons?

[jtdyer]

Unvote, vote: Jester

. I reread through those posts, and I was misreading some things that were said. I will retain my suspicion, though. And Jester, you changed your avatar recently, thats why I voted for you.

[dahill1]

that seems like a good wagon
but so does either farside/jtdyer atm
i also want to hear from shamrock

[jtdyer]

Aww, thanks dahill.

[dahill1]

Aww, thanks dahill.

BFFs 4 LYFE

[Rishi]

Prodding Shamrock.

[The Jester]

Unvote

Vote: Pokerface

I should have seen it sooner...

Re-reading is one of the best weapons anyone can use.

[jtdyer]

Jester, is that a prod to get us to re-read through, or are you going to tell us what you realized?