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Post Post #1919 (isolation #200) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:03 pm

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Go on

There's no evidence that you've read anything in thread past post 1260
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Post Post #1925 (isolation #201) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:27 am

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This Maki content stinks. She doesn't care that the wagon on me dissolved? She isn't going to take a hard stance on Lady Angel? That was kind of playing both sides of the issue there. Is she ever going to tell us who she plans on hiding behind or did we all forget about that? I thought town was going to lynch her if she was alive tomorrow?
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #202) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:00 pm

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In post 1932, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1919, Kaito Momota wrote:Go on

There's no evidence that you've read anything in thread past post 1260
i originally v read you for having a doesnt care vibe
but youve kinda switched to really confident/aggressive since a wagon appeared on you
which is sort of my idea of typical villa!mser to typical wolf!mser
Oh really? Then what do you think of:
In post 1824, davesaz wrote:Reviewing myself to bring this game back into memory.
In post 1261, davesaz wrote:Kaito suddenly hyperposts despite being in no personal danger.
Why did that happen?
I don't remember if I was satisfied that we understood this.
Is davesaz wrong? Is he lying?

By not engaging with davesaz (twice) you've given up on your claim here
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #203) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:24 pm

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We're past the stage in the game where it's acceptable to tunnel on me while ignoring everyone else
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #204) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:16 pm

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Maybe dave should have said something instead of letting sheep run his mouth

If sheep isn't reading dave's posts I'd have to ask where their townread on dave is coming from
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Post Post #1948 (isolation #205) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:19 pm

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I'd rather have Wisdom on my team than somebody who does nothing
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #206) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:20 pm

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Lady Angel, Frozen Angel, Maki Harukawa, Clemency

How are these players playing as a team right now, Pink ball? Can we go over this? What does playing as a team mean?
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #207) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:08 pm

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In post 1824, davesaz wrote:Reviewing myself to bring this game back into memory.
In post 1261, davesaz wrote:Kaito suddenly hyperposts despite being in no personal danger.
Why did that happen?
I don't remember if I was satisfied that we understood this.
In post 1932, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1919, Kaito Momota wrote:Go on

There's no evidence that you've read anything in thread past post 1260
i originally v read you for having a doesnt care vibe but youve kinda switched to really confident/aggressive since a wagon appeared on you which is sort of my idea of typical villa!mser to typical wolf!mser
Do you think these 2 statements are in conflict?
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #208) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:25 pm

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You guys are saying polar opposite things, are you not?
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Post Post #1955 (isolation #209) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:26 pm

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Your 2 viewpoints cannot both be correct. Do you think it's time to reevaluate your own play, or is sheep in the wrong?
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #210) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:28 pm

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In post 1953, davesaz wrote:Both our scumreads increased
You never said that

Here's what you said:
In post 1845, davesaz wrote:
In post 1839, Chara wrote:
In post 1824, davesaz wrote:Reviewing myself to bring this game back into memory.
In post 1261, davesaz wrote:Kaito suddenly hyperposts despite being in no personal danger.
Why did that happen?
I don't remember if I was satisfied that we understood this.
who
was
in danger at the time you noticed this, in your opinion? and why is this bothering you?
The sudden interest in what was going on felt like it might have been intended as a distraction, but it's no longer obvious what it was. I read over several pages before that point and can't tell from them.
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #211) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:56 pm

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In post 1958, davesaz wrote:As of 1261 I thought you were scum making a distraction to stop a wagon.
Then why did you vote with me?
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #212) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:58 pm

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In post 1963, davesaz wrote:Sheep and I are talking about two different points in time, before and after Kaito had votes.
Can you explain to me where in the thread Sheep is referring to then? Since you seem to know
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #213) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:04 pm

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In post 1939, davesaz wrote:FWIW I stand by my stance that wisdom is posting but not actually doing anything other than probing town for weaknesses.
In post 1964, davesaz wrote:Followup on Wisdom -- he's tossing all those one liners and doing nothing to try to convince anyone.
Let's take a look at your voting history for a second
In post 378, davesaz wrote:
In post 372, Wisdom wrote:dave you should know better
Usually the people I don't think are scumhunting end up being scum.
VOTE: Wisdom
In post 1261, davesaz wrote:Kaito suddenly hyperposts despite being in no personal danger.
Why did that happen?

UNVOTE:

Wisdom, before the last 24 hours I was as sure on Maki being town as you seem to be on her being scum.
Now I'm not so sure anymore. Her play is fine to me, but not just one but two players popped up as possible partners.

Creature has crossed back into nullscum territory. It's just meta but the probably town vibe has disappeared.

I believe Nikk was saying "information" as a reason to lynch Maki over someone else. That seemed off when there were 4-6 days left.

Yeah, that's all disconnected. I suspect something important happened under the covers during that catchup. Not sure what. Don't know if it can be connected in the remaining deadline time.

Clemency and Elsa Jay felt weird around the mason talk. Town Clem who is townreading Elsa should go along, maybe deflect it with a "you mean we're
like
masons to each other right". Town Clem who thinks Elsa is scum should flat out refute it and vote there. That leaves us with scum Clem not wanting to get caught if Elsa flips.
Until I can unpack the other shifts while I was sleeping...
VOTE: Clemency
In post 1319, davesaz wrote:VOTE: Nikk
Wow that's surprising. Hey, why did you even lynch Nikk? You have so much to say about everyone else but seemed content to jump on Nikk by saying he felt "off" and leaving it at that

Sure looks a lot like you're probing town for weaknesses right now.
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #214) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:02 pm

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8 long days left
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #215) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:51 pm

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Lady Angel's inactivity is not a site wide thing, by the way, It's just for this game as long as she can get away with it I guess
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #216) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:57 pm

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Maybe more votes will bring her back
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #217) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:26 pm

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That iso is 2 posts long before they desperado really early in the game

I'm not convinced of anything
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #218) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:55 pm

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Elsa Jay wrote:Tommorow? Shit, that's awhile to wait.

Anyone elsa have something to talk about?
Not to be that guy but I wouldn't hold your breath
In post 857, Frozen Angel wrote:hello everyone

I'm feeling generally better but I'm behind with work I'll post again normally and will be out of the vla I asked for tomorrow

sorry for this!
In post 935, Frozen Angel wrote:I know I promised to post yeasterday but I was occupied here doing stuff since its last day I'm here

I'm flying to paris rn. I'll post tomorrow first thing in the morning

can someone tell me what is the deadline for the game?
In post 1848, Frozen Angel wrote:So I'm still alive thanks for being worried.

The current situation I'm in will stand like this for the next 24 hours.

I'll explain what happened to me tomorrow when I'm back.

I apologize for lurking here this hard.
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #219) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:57 pm

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Reminder: Lady Angel was PRODDED for this game, continues to post elsewhere on site, doesn't post in this game

But I've explained wh y Lady Angel is scum and it's not based largely on activity, what are we waiting for?
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #220) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:37 pm

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If Maki is alive tomorrow we're lynching her
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Post Post #2398 (isolation #221) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:46 am

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In post 2376, Creature wrote:
Nancy

Can you prod FA and Kaito?
I've got nothing more to say

Follow my vote or no lynch for all I care
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #222) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:51 pm

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In post 2135, Kaito Momota wrote:
Elsa Jay wrote:Tommorow? Shit, that's awhile to wait.

Anyone elsa have something to talk about?
Not to be that guy but I wouldn't hold your breath
In post 857, Frozen Angel wrote:hello everyone

I'm feeling generally better but I'm behind with work I'll post again normally and will be out of the vla I asked for tomorrow

sorry for this!
In post 935, Frozen Angel wrote:I know I promised to post yeasterday but I was occupied here doing stuff since its last day I'm here

I'm flying to paris rn. I'll post tomorrow first thing in the morning

can someone tell me what is the deadline for the game?
In post 1848, Frozen Angel wrote:So I'm still alive thanks for being worried.

The current situation I'm in will stand like this for the next 24 hours.

I'll explain what happened to me tomorrow when I'm back.

I apologize for lurking here this hard.
I don't feel bad about being that guy anymore
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Post Post #2416 (isolation #223) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:08 pm

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WHO IS MAKI TARGETING?
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #224) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:35 pm

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You guys really tried to slip that one past me
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #225) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:00 pm

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Who are you?
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Post Post #2423 (isolation #226) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:16 pm

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You replaced frozen angel right?

Even though nothing was announced this seems like a reasonable conclusion
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Post Post #2424 (isolation #227) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:17 pm

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Nobody hammer anything until Maki comes in and says who she is targeting: There is zero reason for her to be keepingj this information a secret.
We lynch her if she lives to tomorrow
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #228) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:19 pm

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I suggest Sheepsaysmeep.
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #229) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:08 pm

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As promised, we will be lynching Maki today. That's certainly wher Chara would have been voting

VOTE: Maki Harukawa

After that, we can sweep around and clean up Clemency as well
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #230) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:11 pm

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In post 2488, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: Wisdom
Not happening, if you have a personal grudge you can replace out.
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #231) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:12 pm

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I did vote Elsa, you guys decided to hand onto your special votes of, uh, nobody, instead of sheeping me, then when I switched to someone else everyone decided to follow wisdom on Elsa

Now today we get Maki, who I was willing to give a day to use her power, and who we agreed would die if they were still alive today. Which they are. We can't get this lynch fast enough
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #232) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:42 pm

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I have no choice but to assume that Maki targeted Clemency because that's where I told her to target. Either way her play here was disgusting.

VOTE: Clemency

If you guys want to lose the game due to not listening to me (we're halfway there) then be my guest, I don't care enough about you guys to try to save the game if you won't do it on your own

See you next prod
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Post Post #2898 (isolation #233) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:36 pm

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In post 2667, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2666, Kaito Momota wrote:I have no choice but to assume that Maki targeted Clemency because that's where I told her to target. Either way her play here was disgusting.

VOTE: Clemency

If you guys want to lose the game due to not listening to me (we're halfway there) then be my guest, I don't care enough about you guys to try to save the game if you won't do it on your own

See you next prod
In post 2425, Kaito Momota wrote:I suggest Sheepsaysmeep.
In post 2489, Kaito Momota wrote:As promised, we will be lynching Maki today. That's certainly wher Chara would have been voting

VOTE: Maki Harukawa

After that, we can sweep around and clean up Clemency as well
In post 2559, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Maki Harukawa has been lynched!

Spoiler: The Reveal
She was a Town Desperate Neighborizer.
Welcome, Player, to Booneytoonz IX: Under The Sea! Your role is as follows.
You are a
Town Desperate Neighborizer
. You have your voice and your vote to influence the discussion. You may also neighborize a player each night. If they return a mafia result to an alignment cop, your ability succeeds, otherwise your ability will fail and you will die.
You win when the mafia are eliminated and at least one town player is alive.

It is now Night 3, you have (expired on 2019-02-05 18:25:00) to submit night actions.
Where are you getting this all from @Kaito? It seems to me, that you’re making a helluva lot of assumptions?
You're right, actually. I misremembered. It's Sheepsaysmeep we should be getting, because that's where I said to go

VOTE: Sheepsaysmeep
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Post Post #2899 (isolation #234) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:40 pm

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Man Nero is a disgusting human being
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Post Post #3279 (isolation #235) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:53 am

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In post 3122, Pink Ball wrote:I think FA's scum equity has gone through the roof and we haven't reevaluated her slot only because she was the first Miller claim, and now we know that the scumteam knew about the millers (like Maki suggested on D1).
I agree

That's bbmolla slot right?
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Post Post #3294 (isolation #236) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:05 am

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In post 1539, Clemency wrote:and i rb'd kaito last night
Maki and Clem should be ashamed of their play
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Post Post #3295 (isolation #237) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:06 am

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In general, not referring to 1539
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Post Post #3300 (isolation #238) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:08 am

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Scum were probably told that there were a load of millers in the setup, so that they could fakeclaim miller.

VOTE: BBMolla

Being the first miller claim doesn't make him town anymore, since we did not know scum had an informed role before
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #239) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:10 am

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In post 6, Frozen Angel wrote:Image

HARD CLAIM

I'm a miller.
In post 7, Alchemist21 wrote:Is it possible to have multiple of the same role in this setup?

I am also a Miller.
In post 14, Frozen Angel wrote:all millers should claim asap - its like having a red cop result - it will prevent redundant checks and help the game

all millers must die before lylo. I don't care that includes me

as someone who always try to endgame and very rarely gets lynched and usually can carry scumteams to victory - I would never ever fake claim miller

about alchemist I don't know why would a scum them fake claim miller and I'm not sure if they are bold enough scum player to do that.
In post 15, Elsa Jay wrote:Lynching a strong townie just because their role is a Miller is stupid. Lynching someone who actually tries to claim Miller for towncred and to discredit the real one is a great deal.

Miller = Innocent Child in some situations. Just in a back around way.
In post 16, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 15, Elsa Jay wrote:Lynching someone who actually tries to claim Miller for towncred and to discredit the real one is a great deal.
but how are you sure there are not 2 millers in the game?

and how do you trust me this much to say he is discrediting me?
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Post Post #3304 (isolation #240) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:10 am

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In post 3301, Jingle wrote:Why wouldn't I target Clem
Because he's an idiot
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Post Post #3306 (isolation #241) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:13 am

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I believe that Jingle can be town with Clemency roleblocking a claimed town power role who just lynched scum
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #242) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:16 am

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Creature isn't a good lynch, assuming wisdom dies tonight we get to see if scum kill Creature - if they don't then he gets results with his rolecop
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Post Post #3312 (isolation #243) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:16 am

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In post 3307, Wisdom wrote:kaito what is the setup youre seeing here
Everybody who claimed a power role is town

scum is a power role hiding in the miller claims
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Post Post #3313 (isolation #244) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:17 am

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In post 3311, Wisdom wrote:everyone is claimed, he can fake anything he wants
And we can lynch him later after receiving results rather than now, or scum can kill him, or he can find scum
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Post Post #3315 (isolation #245) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:19 am

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She wasn't a hider, she was a desperate neighborizor
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Post Post #3318 (isolation #246) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:20 am

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In post 3314, Wisdom wrote:so rolecop + backup rolecop + hider + doc/rb + willbooster vs 1 pr?
in a 15 player game

I guess you have a point, Clemency dying now but never before suggests that scum only have 1 role capable of killing left and didn't want him to out a roleblock - traitor is possible though
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Post Post #3322 (isolation #247) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:21 am

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In post 3319, Wisdom wrote:either jingle or creature is scum, there is no way around this.
I don't think that's an absolute truth

Creature is not a good mechanical lynch
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Post Post #3327 (isolation #248) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:23 am

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In post 2541, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: creature

I don't like their posts at all, it looks more like mislynch hunting than scum hunting.
In post 2549, BBmolla wrote:maki is prob scum too
In post 2632, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: creature

I’m a bit behind/confused this game
In post 2690, BBmolla wrote:I’ll sheep Nero, lemme just make sure I’m not hammering, don’t think day should end yet
In post 2828, BBmolla wrote:Just wanted to see what we were doing

VOTE: Kaito
In post 2872, BBmolla wrote:Let’s lynch both
In post 2971, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Vedith

Im over it, we have another mislynxg
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Post Post #3331 (isolation #249) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:25 am

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There might be 4 scum, in which case I believe their roles are fine

Jingle's role as claimed isn't even beneficial to the town - it's negative utility
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Post Post #3333 (isolation #250) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:26 am

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I think it's likely the Clemency roleblocked Wisdom tonight folks, regardless of any other roles
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Post Post #3335 (isolation #251) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:26 am

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He claimed his roleblock on me after he did so

After vedith died he probably used his second roleblock shot under the impression that there was 1 scum alive and now is the time to use it

His targeting was cringe worthy but here we are, with Wisdom roleblocked
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Post Post #3336 (isolation #252) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:27 am

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we're at 8 alive right now
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Post Post #3338 (isolation #253) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:28 am

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Scum has no reason to kill Jingle
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #254) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:28 am

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In post 3334, Jingle wrote:They probably just kill one of us if we're both town to frame the other though.
Not sure why you're going with this when earlier you were saying you were negative utility
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #255) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 3337, Wisdom wrote:
In post 3335, Kaito Momota wrote:He claimed his roleblock on me after he did so

After vedith died he probably used his second roleblock shot under the impression that there was 1 scum alive and now is the time to use it

His targeting was cringe worthy but here we are, with Wisdom roleblocked
so in your world clem blocked me, there is no scum rb, and scum only have goons and miller knowledge to fight an army of prs

ok
That's not what I said though
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Post Post #3350 (isolation #256) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:32 am

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I believe the following:

Clemency roleblocked Wisdom
Informed scum knew that there were a lot of millers in the game, possibly even how many millers there were

And theorize on the following:
Clemency dying now means scum didn't want him to out a roleblock, lending credence to the 1 killing role left theory
If there is more than 1 scum, one is likely a traitor with the other being a power role
If there's only 1 scum left it has to be a power role
Rolecop is in the setup to check Millers, and is about as powerful as a cop in this setup

Actually there is a lot of investigative power with creature being a backup
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Post Post #3352 (isolation #257) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 3347, Creature wrote:
In post 3335, Kaito Momota wrote:His targeting was cringe worthy
Probably not enough to roleblock a claimed rolecop that could confirm millers.
I do think he's that bad
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Post Post #3353 (isolation #258) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:35 am

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There's no mechanical reason Clemency doesn't out who his roleblock target would be in case Vedith flipped scum. None. Clemency hammered Vedith. He's just an idiot.
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Post Post #3355 (isolation #259) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:36 am

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If Maki and Clemency quit trying to be heroes and worked with the town we would have won this game, and we'd probably have it wrapped up now
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #260) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 3356, Wisdom wrote:also kaito

you are of the opinion clem blocked me

but you are also of the opinion there is a town willbooster

why the fuck is there a town willbooster without a scum rb?
It could be negative utility

It could be in the game to feed off false assumptions

Kind of how there's a rolecop, a bunch of millers, and an informed mafia
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Post Post #3362 (isolation #261) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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Clemency never claimed a second roleblock is the thing
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Post Post #3364 (isolation #262) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:39 am

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Like I wouldn't be surprised if he thought roleblocking me again n2 was the play but he never claimed anything
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Post Post #3367 (isolation #263) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

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if scum DON'T have a roleblocker this is a weird setup actually.

2 hard investigative roles and a backup investigative

OK, I see what wisdom is talking about
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Post Post #3368 (isolation #264) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

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plus a 2 shot doctor
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #265) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

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The investigatives only work around millers though - both of them
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Post Post #3371 (isolation #266) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:43 am

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If the last scum is roleblocker then it's Jingle
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Post Post #3374 (isolation #267) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:44 am

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In post 3372, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why did he doc Creature over Chara?
That's not why he's bad
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Post Post #3375 (isolation #268) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:45 am

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In post 3373, Jingle wrote:What about "There's one protective claim, I should willboost that" is shitty?
I thought you willboosted him because he could block a kill as roleblocker, is the goal post moving?
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Post Post #3378 (isolation #269) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:48 am

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Why do we know for sure that there are 3 boon bank roles int he game?
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Post Post #3394 (isolation #270) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 2, Gamma Emerald wrote:During the first night of the game, you must target someone by PM'ing the mod. This action cannot be prevented by any means. If this person is ever successfully targeted for a night kill, you will be killed in their place. If you and your target are not of the same alignment, all investigative actions that are targeted towards you or your target will fail. In other words, you and your target will be ascetic for investigative roles only. You will not be informed of this.
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Post Post #3395 (isolation #271) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:03 am

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Could jingle be a symbiote that was forced to act as a balancing mechanism for 4 scum?
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Post Post #3462 (isolation #272) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:50 pm

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In post 3460, BBmolla wrote:it’s unlikely scum fakeclaims with a rolecop around
Which in my mind makes it unlikely for the backup rolecop to be scum, since it seems scum were kind of encouraged to at least consider having somebody claim miller at the start with their informed role

Of course, if scum they could just have a different role I guess
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Post Post #3465 (isolation #273) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:57 pm

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Because of this:
In post 3460, BBmolla wrote:it’s unlikely scum fakeclaims with a rolecop around, especially if they have the backup rolecop
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Post Post #3466 (isolation #274) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:57 pm

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Was Nero Cain cleared by something?
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Post Post #3468 (isolation #275) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:00 pm

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Oh right, he got checked as miller didn't he

Wisdom, Pink Ball, Nancy Drew 39, Nero Cain for my town list

Creature had good placement on the wagon yesterday, the chances that he's bussing, going against meta, and fake claiming a town pr all while looking like town seems pretty low to me - I think they're town

That leaves BBmolla and Jingle
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Post Post #3471 (isolation #276) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:03 pm

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The biggest issue with balance I have is the 2.5 investigatives with a 2-shot doctor as well

That might necessitate 4 scum, 1 being a traitor, with this being a 15 player setup. Does that sound balanced?
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Post Post #3474 (isolation #277) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 3470, Creature wrote:
In post 3427, BBmolla wrote:That’s a universal backup it’s completely different
Not really. You don't see town inheriting strongman or scum inheriting mason.
What are you arguing here? That's completely different too
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Post Post #3478 (isolation #278) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:05 pm

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For balance, traitor is slightly weaker than a goon, makes it harder to coordinate etc, and possibly doesn't win if they're the only person alive
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Post Post #3481 (isolation #279) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:06 pm

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Starting to lean towards lynching Jingle between Jingle/BBMolla here
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Post Post #3482 (isolation #280) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:07 pm

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VOTE: Jingle
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Post Post #3483 (isolation #281) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:08 pm

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Didn't realize Jingle replaced sheep or I'd have been voting there earlier
In post 2898, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 2667, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2666, Kaito Momota wrote:I have no choice but to assume that Maki targeted Clemency because that's where I told her to target. Either way her play here was disgusting.

VOTE: Clemency

If you guys want to lose the game due to not listening to me (we're halfway there) then be my guest, I don't care enough about you guys to try to save the game if you won't do it on your own

See you next prod
In post 2425, Kaito Momota wrote:I suggest Sheepsaysmeep.
In post 2489, Kaito Momota wrote:As promised, we will be lynching Maki today. That's certainly wher Chara would have been voting

VOTE: Maki Harukawa

After that, we can sweep around and clean up Clemency as well
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Maki Harukawa has been lynched!

Spoiler: The Reveal
She was a Town Desperate Neighborizer.
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You win when the mafia are eliminated and at least one town player is alive.

It is now Night 3, you have (expired on 2019-02-05 18:25:00) to submit night actions.
Where are you getting this all from @Kaito? It seems to me, that you’re making a helluva lot of assumptions?
You're right, actually. I misremembered. It's Sheepsaysmeep we should be getting, because that's where I said to go

VOTE: Sheepsaysmeep
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Post Post #3487 (isolation #282) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:10 pm

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Stop saying setup spec is bad - it's not bad
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Post Post #3488 (isolation #283) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:10 pm

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And no I don't care for your one-off example in a game where it didn't work for xyz
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Post Post #3489 (isolation #284) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:11 pm

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In post 3486, Creature wrote:
In post 3473, Wisdom wrote:thats his point, creature. the universal backup DOES backup same alignment
The same way you don't see scum getting rewarded a roleblocker for killing the town roleblocker.
This is setup spec, by the way. Saying you're not scum because backup roleblocker wouldn't be a scum role is SETUP SPEC
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Post Post #3492 (isolation #285) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:29 pm

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In post 2424, Kaito Momota wrote:Nobody hammer anything until Maki comes in and says who she is targeting: There is zero reason for her to be keepingj this information a secret.
We lynch her if she lives to tomorrow
In post 2425, Kaito Momota wrote:I suggest Sheepsaysmeep.
This is good enough for a vote from me
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Post Post #3494 (isolation #286) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:32 pm

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She passively accepted by not declining
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Post Post #3498 (isolation #287) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:04 pm

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They don't have to be a scum pr who blocks, Clemency could have blocked you
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Post Post #3501 (isolation #288) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 3499, Wisdom wrote:no because in that case the willbooster is useless
Which is a possibility
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Post Post #3502 (isolation #289) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 3500, BBmolla wrote:Jingle/Kaito or Jingle/Creature
gross
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Post Post #3726 (isolation #290) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:09 pm

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VOTE: Jingle
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Post Post #3732 (isolation #291) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:54 pm

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Chara can't read me and doesn't even try to, he follows Maki

Maki's play was proven to be atrocious in this game, we're following her likely lead and voting out Jingle
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Post Post #3734 (isolation #292) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:54 pm

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Nero is despicable and Nancy is tunneled, and that's everyone
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Post Post #3739 (isolation #293) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 3737, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3729, Nero Cain wrote:I'm also flirting with the idea of no lynch like it prob does nothing since I'm pretty likely to be the kill but on the off chance scum don't have a roleblocker AND Creature is a backup rolecop giving him an extra investigate seems the smart play, no?
If they killed Wisdom why wouldn’t Creature be next, since he is now town rolecop?
Maybe we should be no lynching today
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Post Post #3740 (isolation #294) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:02 pm

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I take that back

I don't really think Creature is scum

Let's get Jingle
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Post Post #3742 (isolation #295) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:04 pm

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I'm done talking to Nancy/Nero, you guys can win with me or lose and blame clemency/maki post-game
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Post Post #3743 (isolation #296) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:04 pm

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I'm still vanilla town and we should be lynching Jingle
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Post Post #3747 (isolation #297) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:14 pm

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In post 3746, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Kaito, why didn’t you vote Vedith?
I tried to replace out when Nero entered the game because I didn't want to play with him

I never even comprehended Vedith being in the game, nor do I know why we lynched him
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Post Post #3902 (isolation #298) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:21 am

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In post 3881, Pink Ball wrote:Hey I just realized that Jingle has been on L-1 since Nancy's vote 'cause Kaito voted Jingle at the very begining of the day. So Creature is conftown :) from my PoV then, the only way Jingle flips town is a Kaito/Nancy team or that there's only one scum remaining and it's not Jingle. If it's the first case, I again lose fair and square to scum!Nancy, and if it's the latter, we lynch Kaito tomorrow and we win too. Like, my only reason to unvote Jingle would be voting Kaito, jut then it would be the same two circumstances for Kaito to be town: either it's Jingle/Nancy or it's Jingle alone. So let's just lynch Jingle 'cause he would be the PR of the team
I can't be solo scum.
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Post Post #3904 (isolation #299) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:22 am

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Which means if it's not Jingle it's probably Pink Ball

gl. let's lynch this
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Post Post #3909 (isolation #300) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:26 am

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No lynching isn't optimal play from your point of view, it's the play that kills creature and gaurantees my lynch with you + nero + nancy

Which is the mechanically wrong play

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Post Post #3911 (isolation #301) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:27 am

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What you're not acknowledging is that if you're town, and the game continues, I cannot be scum
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Post Post #3913 (isolation #302) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:34 am

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What you're not acknowledging is that if you're town, and the game continues, I cannot be scum
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Post Post #3916 (isolation #303) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:37 am

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Elsa Jay - Mafia Goon
Vedith -- Informed Mafia Goon

Maki Harukawa - Town Desperate Neighborizer
Clemency - Town Multitasking Two-Shot Doctor Two-Shot Roleblocker
Wisdom - Town Rolecop

Creature Claim: backup rolecop
Jingle Claim: willbooster

15 player game, 2 scum are dead, I've been investigated as vanilla, so I'm not a power role
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Post Post #3918 (isolation #304) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:20 am

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What you're not acknowledging is that if you're town, and the game continues, I cannot be scum
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Post Post #3922 (isolation #305) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:57 am

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Wisdom could have still just been roleblocked by Clemency

Balance wise if there's 1 scum left they pretty much have to be a power role of some sort
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Post Post #3940 (isolation #306) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:39 pm

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In post 3923, Jingle wrote:Okay? There’s still probably two scum balance wise anyway.
If you're town, and you die, there cannot be two scum.
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Post Post #3943 (isolation #307) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:42 pm

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There aren't associatives that point to me being jingle's scum partner, quite the opposite, you've just been biased all game
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Post Post #3944 (isolation #308) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:43 pm

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Lynching me is the mechanically wrong play, try again
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #309) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:11 pm

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I'm lynching jingle because Maki didn't die at night, and that only happens if she targets someone who is scum or a miller
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #310) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:12 pm

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In post 3955, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1654, Maki Harukawa wrote:Hey Chara I'm confident Kaito is scum. Now come join me
If Maki=Maria, then I think we can probably bank on this.
She was voting with me, stop cherry picking evidence
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Post Post #3960 (isolation #311) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:12 pm

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And nobody cares about Maki's reads this game
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Post Post #3961 (isolation #312) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:13 pm

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I'm no more likely to be a sk holstering than any other vt here, you're just reaching for a reason to lynch me now
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Post Post #3964 (isolation #313) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 3947, Jingle wrote:
In post 3943, Kaito Momota wrote:There aren't associatives that point to me being jingle's scum partner, quite the opposite, you've just been biased all game
Agressively wrong.
There are associatives that point to us being scum together? Tell me more?
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Post Post #3965 (isolation #314) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:16 pm

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In post 3963, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3960, Kaito Momota wrote:And nobody cares about Maki's reads this game
Maria is good at reading you.
How'd that work for you in Excalibur?
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Post Post #3966 (isolation #315) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:19 pm

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Hey Jingle

If you're pushing this two scum angle... who is scum right now?
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Post Post #3968 (isolation #316) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:42 pm

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I think Maki would target her. She was voting Lady angel at the end of the day, before nancy replaced in
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Post Post #3969 (isolation #317) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 2125, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 2.3

Lady Angel(3)
~ (116), (81), (41)

Elsa Jay(3)
~ (103), (83), (41)
Kaito Momota(2)
~ (46), (14)
Wisdom(1)
~ (73)
davesaz(1)
~ (43)


Not Voting (3): davesaz(23), Frozen Angel(2), Lady Angel(2)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-31 20:18:34)


MOD REMINDERSLady Angel is being replaced

Clemency needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/24/2019 1:23:00 AM which was 2 days 10 hours 45 minutes 9 seconds ago.
Maki Harukawa needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/24/2019 2:05:00 AM which was 2 days 10 hours 3 minutes 9 seconds ago.
Pink Ball needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/23/2019 9:55:00 PM which was 2 days 14 hours 13 minutes 9 seconds ago.

FLAVORHappy scumday, Creature!

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In post 2138, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Lady
In post 2243, Maki Harukawa wrote:Yet wisdom is ok with being on a wagon with 2 people he suspects

For those saying Maki suspected me
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Post Post #3971 (isolation #318) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:46 pm

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Ultimately it's irrelevant if Maki targeted Nancy since the slot claimed miller

And yes, she was supposed to target Sheep/Jingle slot
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Post Post #3972 (isolation #319) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:49 pm

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In post 3968, Kaito Momota wrote:I think Maki would target her. She was voting Lady angel at the end of the day, before nancy replaced in
This was me forgetting about the miller claim, she probably didn't target nancy
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Post Post #3975 (isolation #320) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:04 pm

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In post 3969, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 2125, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 2.3

Lady Angel(3)
~ (116), (81), (41)

Elsa Jay(3)
~ (103), (83), (41)
Kaito Momota(2)
~ (46), (14)
Wisdom(1)
~ (73)
davesaz(1)
~ (43)


Not Voting (3): davesaz(23), Frozen Angel(2), Lady Angel(2)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-31 20:18:34)


MOD REMINDERSLady Angel is being replaced

Clemency needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/24/2019 1:23:00 AM which was 2 days 10 hours 45 minutes 9 seconds ago.
Maki Harukawa needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/24/2019 2:05:00 AM which was 2 days 10 hours 3 minutes 9 seconds ago.
Pink Ball needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/23/2019 9:55:00 PM which was 2 days 14 hours 13 minutes 9 seconds ago.

FLAVORHappy scumday, Creature!

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In post 2138, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Lady
In post 2243, Maki Harukawa wrote:Yet wisdom is ok with being on a wagon with 2 people he suspects

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Post Post #3976 (isolation #321) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:05 pm

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Not even I defend Maki this hard

her play was atrocious
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Post Post #3978 (isolation #322) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 1702, Kaito Momota wrote:Maki's read me wrong in the last 2-3 games we've played together anyways

but ok
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Post Post #3979 (isolation #323) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:47 pm

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In post 1719, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 1711, Kaito Momota wrote:Make no mistake, if you guys lynch me you will lose the game
Having 5 votes from everyone talking besides your possible scumbuddy Wisdom isn't doing you any favors, regardless of Chara unvoting.

Counting Chara's vote, one of the Angels, Dave, Firebringer, or "my scumbuddy" Sheep (Wisdoms words) will also need to vote you.

Pop Quiz folks, which of the remaining 5 are probably scum with Wisdom and Kaito? My money's now on Sheep because of this frame of the century.
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Post Post #3980 (isolation #324) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:49 pm

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I am of the belief that there is only 1 scum remaining
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Post Post #3987 (isolation #325) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:58 pm

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In post 3983, Jingle wrote:
In post 3958, Kaito Momota wrote:I'm lynching jingle because Maki didn't die at night, and that only happens if she targets someone who is scum or a miller
Glad this only came up in MYLO. That's totes convincing. :lol:
I mentioned it numerous times actually, and that's the reason I was voting you yesterday
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Post Post #3988 (isolation #326) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:00 pm

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Which of Nanc/pinkball?

Give a name, this is mylo, it's too late to not know what's going on
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Post Post #3991 (isolation #327) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:06 pm

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In post 3483, Kaito Momota wrote:Didn't realize Jingle replaced sheep or I'd have been voting there earlier
In post 2898, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 2667, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2666, Kaito Momota wrote:I have no choice but to assume that Maki targeted Clemency because that's where I told her to target. Either way her play here was disgusting.

VOTE: Clemency

If you guys want to lose the game due to not listening to me (we're halfway there) then be my guest, I don't care enough about you guys to try to save the game if you won't do it on your own

See you next prod
In post 2425, Kaito Momota wrote:I suggest Sheepsaysmeep.
In post 2489, Kaito Momota wrote:As promised, we will be lynching Maki today. That's certainly wher Chara would have been voting

VOTE: Maki Harukawa

After that, we can sweep around and clean up Clemency as well
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Maki Harukawa has been lynched!

Spoiler: The Reveal
She was a Town Desperate Neighborizer.
Welcome, Player, to Booneytoonz IX: Under The Sea! Your role is as follows.
You are a
Town Desperate Neighborizer
. You have your voice and your vote to influence the discussion. You may also neighborize a player each night. If they return a mafia result to an alignment cop, your ability succeeds, otherwise your ability will fail and you will die.
You win when the mafia are eliminated and at least one town player is alive.

It is now Night 3, you have (expired on 2019-02-05 18:25:00) to submit night actions.
Where are you getting this all from @Kaito? It seems to me, that you’re making a helluva lot of assumptions?
You're right, actually. I misremembered. It's Sheepsaysmeep we should be getting, because that's where I said to go

VOTE: Sheepsaysmeep
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Post Post #3993 (isolation #328) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:27 pm

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Your posting looks more like trying to stay alive than trying to solve the game and trying to get that no lynch earlier could have helped scum without helping town.

I'm done talking to people, if Jingle is town I'll explain who we're voting tomorrow but that's it
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Post Post #3994 (isolation #329) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:28 pm

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It's time for votes
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Post Post #4007 (isolation #330) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:41 pm

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prod dodge
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Post Post #4073 (isolation #331) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:34 pm

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In post 4030, Nero Cain wrote:I also see the scum motivation in Dunn's play. Since replacing in he's just kinda gone with the flow of the things and voted Maki and then tried Clem.
I've been in this game from the start
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