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Post Post #6725 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:23 am

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In post 6722, davesaz wrote:I think Elsa is trying to use this as an excuse. Either way Boon would be caught in a tough spot by the question as almost any answer other than "not saying" confirms someone's alignment.
Yeah and if Elsa is telling the truth about the vote, then McQueen has a valid reason to be uberpissed.
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Post Post #6726 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:23 am

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In post 6724, Creature wrote:
In post 6713, DrewVa wrote:
In post 6711, Creature wrote:I predict a town loss.
Why? If you have info townconfirming Elsa, you need to share it.
My disloyal failed on her
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Post Post #6727 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:25 am

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Haven't we already established he was rolestopped?
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Post Post #6728 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:26 am

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I was gonna pick these out, but I want a massclaim of what options were available and chosen and who was in each room at night. Scum likely has access to at least the latter, given that players can read previous night's games while in the minigame. What was chosen is of limited usefulness to scum given they don't know who got the power, and is useful for determining motivations. If this information is already available, let me know where.

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Thanos: Win
Nero: Lose
Gemerald: Lose

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CD: Win
N&M: Lose
Penguin: Win

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Jingle: Weak to Una
Una: Weak to EJ
Creature: Win {Weak/Ascetic/Mtasking/Charge transfer}
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Post Post #6729 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:28 am

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In post 6727, Something_Smart wrote:Haven't we already established he was rolestopped?
Have we?

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Post Post #6730 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:29 am

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In post 6727, Something_Smart wrote:Haven't we already established he was rolestopped?
No? That was given as a suggestion that would explain the multiple disloyal actions failing on him, but there is no evidence elsewise that a rolestopper exists. :roll:
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Post Post #6731 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:29 am

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No, I said it was possible I was rolestopped, Jailkeeped by the Alien variant, or there's an Enchantress.

Scumslip to reveal that there's a Rolestopper, SS? How nice of you.
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Post Post #6732 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:29 am

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You know the prizes aren't visible to later people in the room... so by compiling that, you're literally telling scum who has what important power.

And DrewVa it's not confirmed, but we know a killing action failed on him and he isn't bulletproof, so probably.
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Post Post #6733 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:30 am

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@Creature:

Does that mean you got a result, or no result? What night?
I don't care what action at this time. Later it might be helpful for the logic web, but unnecessary right now.
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Post Post #6734 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:31 am

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In post 6733, davesaz wrote:Does that mean you got a result, or no result? What night?
I got no result N2
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Post Post #6735 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:31 am

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I mean. The disloyal action didn't fail because he's town. So some rolestopping effect was applied to him. Ironically, he's slipping himself by not simply suggesting he was docced.
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Post Post #6736 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:32 am

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my feeling as a mod is that the unvote/revote thing is bullshit
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Post Post #6737 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:33 am

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Yeah... Nope. Players can gift powers around, which kind of cuts that argument at the knees.

And knowing what powers exist is >town utility than scum utility. The only powers that scum would know where they went are those that are fully claimed otherwise, or those that went to scum.
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Post Post #6738 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:34 am

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In post 6735, Something_Smart wrote:I mean. The disloyal action didn't fail because he's town. So some rolestopping effect was applied to him. Ironically, he's slipping himself by not simply suggesting he was docced.
this is an awful post
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Post Post #6739 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:34 am

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No? Where's the flaw in it?
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Post Post #6740 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:36 am

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In post 6735, Something_Smart wrote:I mean. The disloyal action didn't fail because he's town. So some rolestopping effect was applied to him. Ironically, he's slipping himself by not simply suggesting he was docced.
I had no reason to believe I wasn't getting shot by the vigilante, bro. So we discussed a scum doctor healing me, but that's it. Then Xtoxm said ge targetted me last night amd had no action.

You just slipped that of the 3 possibilities, it was the Rolestopper.
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Post Post #6741 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:36 am

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In post 6728, Jingle wrote:I was gonna pick these out, but I want a massclaim of what options were available and chosen and who was in each room at night. Scum likely has access to at least the latter, given that players can read previous night's games while in the minigame. What was chosen is of limited usefulness to scum given they don't know who got the power, and is useful for determining motivations. If this information is already available, let me know where.

Room A:

Night 1:


Night 2:


Night 3:


Room B:

Night 1:

Night 2:

Night 3:

Room C

Night 1:

Thanos: Win
Nero: Lose
Gemerald: Lose

Night 2:

CD: Win
N&M: Lose
Penguin: Win

Night 3:

Jingle: Weak to Una
Una: Weak to EJ
Creature: Win {Weak/Ascetic/Mtasking/Charge transfer}
We were in Room A, nights 1 and 3.

N1, we were in a room with BEF and Alonzo. We won 1-shot vig, which we unsuccessfully used on Elsa last night.

N3, we were in a room with RCE and SS. We all won in a compromise. We gifted a loud to SS. RCE gifted a loud to someone, I think. Profil confirmed that SS gifted him a neighbourizer.
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Post Post #6742 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:36 am

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there is no town reason for him to ever be docced last night
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Post Post #6743 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:37 am

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He did suggest he was docced. And also it relies on a conclusion to argue the point.
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Post Post #6744 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:37 am

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From my point of view, I know those disloyal actions were blocked. (Or they're just bullshit.) From Elsa's POV, they wouldn't be blocked, they'd just have failed because he's town. So he'd only have to explain why the vig failed... but that's not what he's doing.

And of the three possibilities, rolestopper is the only one that's normal.
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Post Post #6745 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:38 am

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Do you know who was in a night 2?
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Post Post #6746 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:38 am

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In post 6742, Xtoxm wrote:there is no town reason for him to ever be docced last night
By scum trying to save their traitor?
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Post Post #6747 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:38 am

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We literally were having a discussion about variant roles bro. We get 2 of them. And "Alien" is considered normal as well.
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Post Post #6748 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:39 am

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In post 6732, Something_Smart wrote:You know the prizes aren't visible to later people in the room... so by compiling that, you're literally telling scum who has what important power.

And DrewVa it's not confirmed, but we know a killing action failed on him and he isn't bulletproof, so probably.
Whomever rolestopped Elsa, needs to claim because why does town rolestop a claimed miller?
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Post Post #6749 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:41 am

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In post 6742, Xtoxm wrote:there is no town reason for him to ever be docced last night
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