Merchant's Daughter [Game Restart!]

[Allomancer]

And my point is that the worst has a much higher ratio of content:shit than you. The worst also puts far more effort into her content posts than you.

Okay content:shit ratio determines alignment and effort also means alignment.
If that is the basis of your read than okay.

Why do you think these two are relevant to either of us two when we are two different players?

Because with how high your post count is, I wouldn't expect ~50% of that to be shitposting. It's a waste of time, clogs up the thread, and benefits town none. How is it a towny thing to do then?

[Firebringer]

And my point is that the worst has a much higher ratio of content:shit than you. The worst also puts far more effort into her content posts than you.

Okay content:shit ratio determines alignment and effort also means alignment.
If that is the basis of your read than okay.

Why do you think these two are relevant to either of us two when we are two different players?

Because with how high your post count is, I wouldn't expect ~50% of that to be shitposting. It's a waste of time, clogs up the thread, and benefits town none. How is it a towny thing to do then?

It doesn't, its my personal preference of style to keep myself not from shooting myself in the head and enjoying the game.

how much is acceptable shit posting? or better when does that level of shit posting in your eyes go from a silly thing to do become a clog and hurt the town?

[Allomancer]

When it becomes obnoxious enough that we have to argue about it.

[Firebringer]

and that happens when you just feel like it or what exactly?

[Allomancer]

I'm sorry that I can't draw a line and say "50 shitposts is too many" or whatever. Its an innate feeling. And right you're far past that line, wherever it is.

[Ankamius]

So what are both of your reads on reinhardt?

[Allomancer]

scummy

[Firebringer]

I'm sorry that I can't draw a line and say "50 shitposts is too many" or whatever. Its an innate feeling. And right you're far past that line, wherever it is.

Your fine mate, i appreciate you answering all my questions no matter how inane they appear.

I am going to go for a different angle here.
Do you expect, someone like me, to go far past any lines you have of shit posting because I don't care how much you find it annoying. Nor would that reflect my alignment. Or do you think I do it only as scum to clog the thread up?

[Slaxx]

Does anyone have issues with Slaxx/Dunn?

I kinda would like a bit more discussion before anyone who could plausibly be in the top 6 pairs first of all, which is probably the only reason I haven't offered yet

Beyond that, Dunn's BoP as scum is

significantly higher than yours

which would mean it would be much riskier to put you in the top 6

How do you make this decision when I have had only one game as scum here? That's what my concern is. It isn't about your actual rating of my play, and its not about me being with Dunn. I am zeroing in on this particular statement because you seem overconfident in this statement, and instead of working with me to sort it out, you deflect to how it isn't about me and then a dig at my play.

Why is it so mind boggling that I would want to know how you made this determination?

[Ankamius]

scummy

Oh good I'm glad people are seeing the same pattern I am

I assume it's the same pattern anyways, it's not a very complex thing

[Allomancer]

I'm sorry that I can't draw a line and say "50 shitposts is too many" or whatever. Its an innate feeling. And right you're far past that line, wherever it is.

Your fine mate, i appreciate you answering all my questions no matter how inane they appear.

I am going to go for a different angle here.
Do you expect, someone like me, to go far past any lines you have of shit posting because I don't care how much you find it annoying. Nor would that reflect my alignment. Or do you think I do it only as scum to clog the thread up?

I think it's not necessary something I see as scum doing intentionally as something I see town intentionally not doing. Scum doesn't really benefit that much from clogging the thread, but they also don't care about the thread being clogged.

[Allomancer]

Been a while since my last readlist.
{the worst, Slaxx}
{Nancy Drew, Celica, Krazy}
{PvtUrist, Alisae, Ankamius, Dunnstral}
{Adelbert Steiner, Pink Ball, Clemency}
{Firebringer, Reinhardt}

[Firebringer]

I'm sorry that I can't draw a line and say "50 shitposts is too many" or whatever. Its an innate feeling. And right you're far past that line, wherever it is.

Your fine mate, i appreciate you answering all my questions no matter how inane they appear.

I am going to go for a different angle here.
Do you expect, someone like me, to go far past any lines you have of shit posting because I don't care how much you find it annoying. Nor would that reflect my alignment. Or do you think I do it only as scum to clog the thread up?

I think it's not necessary something I see as scum doing intentionally as something I see town intentionally not doing. Scum doesn't really benefit that much from clogging the thread, but they also don't care about the thread being clogged.

So you are saying if I was town here I wouldn't do this intentionally because of the harm. But my actions aren't scummy because it doesn't benefit me.

Ergo wouldn't this be a null read not a scum read?

Town doesn't do X
Scum doesn't benefit from X
Player is Scum. Even thought they do X and don't benefit from X.

I guess it follows sort of it you just take the definition of anything not Town is scum but you just argued it isn't like motivation wise scummy.

[Allomancer]

Well it puts you at null-scum. There are other things that push you into the scum category. For example, this whole argument. Town doesn't benefit from arguing a read on them as much as scum does. Maybe I would townread you if you had spent this time you did arguing about my own read on you scumhunting instead.

[Slaxx]

What, no one wants to talk about how this

Actually only one. Which was Lovers.

Then the other was a hydra in lynchpin with Auro/Volxen/Me

you think this is about you lol

what do you expect, me to go [Slaxx is shit at playing scum!]

You have it backward; the point is that Dunn is really good at playing scum, and has also won this particular setup before (albeit without this coin nonsense)

Dunn is demonstrably a strong scum player and for that reason pairing a player that can be a consensus townread with him is dangerous. I was volunteering myself for Dunn precisely because I did not enter this game planning to be in a final pairing, and I doubt Dunn did either. Seemed like a good fit in that regard

Additionally, the point I was making was that you two should not pair right now. Given Celica JUST cased you, isn't there like, things to talk about right now? You're not even a consensus read at the moment so it's almost a non-issue, but you still shouldn't pair this early in the pre-dance.

We can talk about the case, sure.

It felt like you were claiming information on me you didn’t have, and when that happened, yes, it did become about me.

was responded to with an insult? We just ignoring it? What about that doesn't warrant a proper response? What about that question was so unfair to him he had to resort to throwing shade at my play?

[Krazy]

what was my insult now lol

[Slaxx]

Does anyone have issues with Slaxx/Dunn?

I kinda would like a bit more discussion before anyone who could plausibly be in the top 6 pairs first of all, which is probably the only reason I haven't offered yet

Beyond that, Dunn's BoP as scum is

significantly higher than yours

which would mean it would be much riskier to put you in the top 6

How do you make this decision when I have had only one game as scum here? That's what my concern is. It isn't about your actual rating of my play, and its not about me being with Dunn. I am zeroing in on this particular statement because you seem overconfident in this statement, and instead of working with me to sort it out, you deflect to how it isn't about me and then a dig at my play.

Why is it so mind boggling that I would want to know how you made this determination?

Let's talk about posts in the order they were presented. We can start here, and then move on to the insult.

[Dunnstral]

I can see scum motivation in Krazy coming in and saying I'm good at scum to deter me from pairing with Slaxx and trying to get people to agree on both pairings and lynch orders

[Slaxx]

I can see scum motivation in Krazy coming in and saying I'm good at scum to deter me from pairing with Slaxx and trying to get people to agree on both pairings and lynch orders

Freaking.

Exactly.

We were fine until I start talking about one and all the sudden I can't get a straight answer out of him.

[Firebringer]

Well it puts you at null-scum. There are other things that push you into the scum category. For example, this whole argument. Town doesn't benefit from arguing a read on them as much as scum does. Maybe I would townread you if you had spent this time you did arguing about my own read on you scumhunting instead.

I am just trying to understand your thought processes. Not arguing over what read you should have on me.

[Firebringer]

Understanding people is hard and I am going to take a break from it. I am not patient enough to go through all your thoughts to understand everything.
I am leaning town on you now and that is fine for me for the next few days.

[Krazy]

I'm okay with slaxx dancing with dunn so long as they both know they don't get in the final 4.

You asked if anyone thought it was a bad idea, I said so, and now you're throwing a little tantrum lol

[Ankamius]

Where are your reads at atm fire

[Slaxx]

I'm okay with slaxx dancing with dunn so long as they both know they don't get in the final 4.

You asked if anyone thought it was a bad idea, I said so, and now you're throwing a little tantrum lol

You're still not answering the question. You are deflecting so damn hard right now.

[Krazy]

let's be real, lolwagons is a stronger player than slaxx

If this is the insult you're talking about you are definitely not getting in the final 4 anyway