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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 968, Allomancer wrote:I don't understand this at all so I'm just gonna ignore it unless I can get an unbiased tl;dr. was so biased as to be useless.
yeah no shit

I'm on to him

He said my sum meta was worse than dunn's scum meta even though I have only one recent game on here where I fleeced most of the town, then when I asked him how he came to the conclusion he started spouting out shit like this and it took him a solid 5-6 posts to stop deflecting and just answer the question. When he did, he basically said that since I only had one game that there wasn't enough info on me and so apparently that makes his statement true. That's like saying 5>x because we don't know x.

The statement was bad and pinged me, the way he has completely undercut me while I tried to pursue it (diplomatically at first) by calling my line of questioning a hissy fit and pegging me further down on the list is what tanked my read on him.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 973, Celica wrote:
In post 952, Allomancer wrote:Rn I wanna dance with either Celica or Ankamius
Get the makeup bag Ank, We gotta look pretty!
I can just buy top end stuff :3
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 971, Firebringer wrote:ohh i get why this argument is stupid.

Krazy makes statement that he thinks Dunn scum is better than Slaxx.
Slaxx says he can't possibly make that statement because he has no reason to think Dunn scum game is better because he doesn't know his scum game.
Krazy takes that and goes back with well I think Dunn is just better.
Slaxx thinks this is doubling down rather than acknowleding the fact that Krazy is uninformed and overconfident about this.

Krazy again is bewildered thinking that Slaxx is insulted by his statement on his scum game

What a stupid argument.
No, I don't think he is doubling down, I specifically think he wanted to avoid talking about it because he didn't have a valid explanation for what he said.

and once again, a simple "oh you're right, dang, I didnt have the meta I thought I had on you" would have been way better than whatever the hell that was.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 974, Firebringer wrote:
In post 972, Ankamius wrote:Anyways fire, if you have to classify it by annoyance level, that works for me well enough

I want to solidify a read on you sooner rather than later
Why exactly? I am still planning to leave the dance....
No dont do that tw is town
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

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Slaxx ur argument with Krazy over his opinion of you and Dunn is kind of silly. Yeah he doesn't have any meta on you that should make over confident boasts about his thinking of your meta but this really is painting you like you are just butthurt at not being recognized and I don't think you want to paint yourself as that, so you should probably stop.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 974, Firebringer wrote:
In post 972, Ankamius wrote:Anyways fire, if you have to classify it by annoyance level, that works for me well enough

I want to solidify a read on you sooner rather than later
Why exactly? I am still planning to leave the dance....
Because I have only played with about... four people in this game before, two of which are in your one pairing and both of which I
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work with if I can get comfortable townreads on

I need more comfortable reads to be able to try to read the slots I can't read and you two are the best shots at getting there I think
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 978, Allomancer wrote:
In post 974, Firebringer wrote:
In post 972, Ankamius wrote:Anyways fire, if you have to classify it by annoyance level, that works for me well enough

I want to solidify a read on you sooner rather than later
Why exactly? I am still planning to leave the dance....
No dont do that tw is town
But you think I am scum..........................................
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:02 pm

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{the worst}
{Nancy Drew, Celica, Krazy, Slaxx}
{PvtUrist, Alisae, Ankamius, Dunnstral}
{Firebringer, Adelbert Steiner, Pink Ball, Clemency}
{Reinhardt}

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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:04 pm

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In post 979, Firebringer wrote:Slaxx ur argument with Krazy over his opinion of you and Dunn is kind of silly. Yeah he doesn't have any meta on you that should make over confident boasts about his thinking of your meta but this really is painting you like you are just butthurt at not being recognized and I don't think you want to paint yourself as that, so you should probably stop.
Fuck that noise, how many times now have I had to say this isn't about that? Would you like a notarized goddamn letter?

1. He made a statement he couldn't back up
2. I asked him for his reasoning
3. He was dodgy about giving it and started undercutting me for pursuing it
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:04 pm

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{the worst}
{Nancy Drew, Krazy}
{Celica, Slaxx, Ankamius}
{PvtUrist, Alisae, Dunnstral}
{Adelbert Steiner, Clemency}
{Firebringer, Pink Ball}
{Reinhardt}

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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:05 pm

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Can you go into your duckling read Allo?
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:07 pm

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In post 983, Slaxx wrote:
In post 979, Firebringer wrote:Slaxx ur argument with Krazy over his opinion of you and Dunn is kind of silly. Yeah he doesn't have any meta on you that should make over confident boasts about his thinking of your meta but this really is painting you like you are just butthurt at not being recognized and I don't think you want to paint yourself as that, so you should probably stop.
Fuck that noise, how many times now have I had to say this isn't about that? Would you like a notarized goddamn letter?

1. He made a statement he couldn't back up
2. I asked him for his reasoning
3. He was dodgy about giving it and started undercutting me for pursuing it
You can say it isn't about that as much as you want, the thing about a frame is its hard to fight it when all you do is say "No I am not" while being angry. You are actively pushing with anger against the frame, so even if you truly aren't butthurt about this. You are acting in a way that everyone will see you as being butthurt about it.

And I really doubt Krazy going into his reasoning about his line of thinking of your scum meta would resolve literally anything. I don't think its just a thing a scum would say. Scum don't generally make up meta arguments they couldn't actively argue in some capacity.
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:11 pm

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I don't know what to tell you then, FB. I think I made it pretty clear what I was arguing about. Krazy was the one who kept trying to make it about anything but his line of thought.

Also that reasoning is terribad because the whole point is it was off the cuff because it had to be, with dunn and I mentioning pairing. Plus, when is getting someone's line of reason not at least worthwhile to pursue?
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:16 pm

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In post 987, Slaxx wrote:I don't know what to tell you then, FB. I think I made it pretty clear what I was arguing about. Krazy was the one who kept trying to make it about anything but his line of thought.

Also that reasoning is terribad because the whole point is it was off the cuff because it had to be, with dunn and I mentioning pairing. Plus, when is getting someone's line of reason not at least worthwhile to pursue?
I don't think line of reasoning is worthwhile to pursue when you believe it can come from someones town or scum games and has no relation to alignment.

Going into things like: theories of how to play, abstract thoughts on players (meta), and mechanical aspects of the game.
All of those can be useful for understanding how a player thinks but wouldn't really get a understanding what a player is thinking in direct relation to the game they are currently playing.

So kind of like this post isn't AI because I am telling you what is and isn't worth pursuing for alignment purposes.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:16 pm

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In post 800, Celica wrote:Alisae: I liked the interaction with Nancy, I could be overthinking this, but I felt like Alisae was poking Nancy for reactions and dodging for reasons to get more from Nancy. That felt towny to me.
thats actually surprisingly spot on (and also because its funny)
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:17 pm

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In post 959, Krazy wrote:Everyone has a lower scum bop than dunn because dunn is one of the best scum players on site
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 984, Allomancer wrote:{the worst}
{Nancy Drew, Krazy}
{Celica, Slaxx, Ankamius}
{PvtUrist, Alisae, Dunnstral}
{Adelbert Steiner, Clemency}
{Firebringer, Pink Ball}
{Reinhardt}

Much better
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:22 pm

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Any new reads Alisae?
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:23 pm

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In post 959, Krazy wrote:Everyone has a lower scum bop than dunn because dunn is one of the best scum players on site
Alriht time to roll one
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:23 pm

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In post 988, Firebringer wrote:
In post 987, Slaxx wrote:I don't know what to tell you then, FB. I think I made it pretty clear what I was arguing about. Krazy was the one who kept trying to make it about anything but his line of thought.

Also that reasoning is terribad because the whole point is it was off the cuff because it had to be, with dunn and I mentioning pairing. Plus, when is getting someone's line of reason not at least worthwhile to pursue?
I don't think line of reasoning is worthwhile to pursue when you believe it can come from someones town or scum games and has no relation to alignment.

Going into things like: theories of how to play, abstract thoughts on players (meta), and mechanical aspects of the game.
All of those can be useful for understanding how a player thinks but wouldn't really get a understanding what a player is thinking in direct relation to the game they are currently playing.

So kind of like this post isn't AI because I am telling you what is and isn't worth pursuing for alignment purposes.
I don't believe that, otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question. Clearly we aren't getting anywhere.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:24 pm

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In post 992, Ankamius wrote:Any new reads Alisae?
the only thing I learned is I actually need to read celica’s posts besides that nah same people talking over and over so no real new developments. I saw rein posting but meh it wasn’t noticeable.
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:25 pm

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Okay

Talk about Celica when you have read her posts with me?
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:26 pm

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Well I mean I just woke up so that might not happen for a bit.
If you want me to address anything in particular now I can do that though.
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:27 pm

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reads list:

The Town Eskimos - Firebringer, Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39
The Town Walruses - Slaxx, Dunnstral
The Town Ants - Allomancer, Alisae, Adelbert
The People Who Joined But Didn't Get a Team Name - Clemency, PvtUrist, mcqueen, Reinhardt, Jibril, Celica
The Scum Pandas - the worst, Krazy, Pink Ball

now for the FRUSTRATION LIST:
(this goes most frustated to least)

THE ANNOYING BEES - Allomancer
FOR DEAL LOVE STOP AND READ THE GAME BEFORE POSTING - Nancy Drew 39, Reinhardt
THE LOUD TIGERS - SLAXX
EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOESNT GET A TEAM NAME
THE ADORABLE NOT ANNYING GRANDSON - ALISAE
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm

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Plus now is a good time to talk to me before i start stonedposting
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