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Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:49 pm

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In post 2802, Michael Scott wrote:Almost Chara, I'd like you to participate in the game more and help solve it.
@the rest: Does Chara have a lurk meta for scum? Anyone familiar with it?
i don't lurk as scum (anymore than i would as town, anyway), i can pull recent games if you like. sorry for my absence, both Almost and i have been busy this game day so we've been unable to pick up the slack for each other.
though my apology does not extend to tuesday or today, because i was doing something more important. :>
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Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:51 pm

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I'm leaving out one tiny part of my role which I don't think is relevant to town WRT solving for scum, but will help town.

I'm Zerg Overmind, an informed town ascetic. I'm a ground unit, a building.

I was informed that multiple X-shot BP exist; and also that there are no town doctors, jailkeepers, rolestoppers or aliens that could target air units.
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Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:52 pm

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@Almost Chara, that feels odd; Almost50 was active a few hours ago and was even posting elsewhere. Claiming simply takes a couple minutes and no thought (If you're town), it's just hard to buy that tbh.
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Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:53 pm

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Also, I didn't move both nights. I'm a building, so can't move.
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Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:53 pm

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In post 2806, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2804, Michael Scott wrote:Explain the TR on AC please, I'm getting paranoid about that slot.
It’s honestly more of a gut read that I’ll admit is biased. Specifically, Chara seems similar to me in the way we think about things so I figure if they’re like me and playing like me then they’re probably Town.
i'm townreading this because you reminded me that earlier in this game we were thinking similarly, and you bringing this up townread us here is simply +town.
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Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:56 pm

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If Almost Chara is town, then Mewtaph is *definitely* town.
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Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:57 pm

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In post 2827, Michael Scott wrote:@Almost Chara, that feels odd; Almost50 was active a few hours ago and was even posting elsewhere. Claiming simply takes a couple minutes and no thought (If you're town), it's just hard to buy that tbh.
he hasn't checked in in our PT. that tells me he didn't look at this game while he was online. it doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't be prioritizing this game right now, but i don't think there's anyone here who can corroborate that so, it's fine.

as for claiming being easy: it was. i was considering omitting aspects of our role and wanted his input. i didn't get his input and so just fullclaimed.
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Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:57 pm

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In post 2823, Almost Chara wrote:we automatically kill any enemy air units
(only light ones)
What does that mean?
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Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:59 pm

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In post 2479, Almost Chara wrote:Preliminary movement analysis suggests Mewtaph is the Scum protective.
If enemy air units that pass over you get killed, why would you think Mewtaph is scum here?
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Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:01 pm

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our understanding was that these light units aren't players. they're small units sent by scum when using actions. i should have specified that ENEMY was in all caps, so it seemed like a keyword. and from the way the mod described it we don't kill players.
light units were given as interceptors, phoenixes, observers, oracles, and ravens.
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Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:03 pm

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Right. So you mean you *block* scum kills when scum tries to kill someone on the opposite side. Am I correct?
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Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:04 pm

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specifically, we were told that scum
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be able to send air units that we would then passively kill. an action that sent one unit over us would be blocked because we killed the unit. an action that sent three light flying units over us would succeed because we only killed two of them. we were never under the impression that we killed players who moved over us, and i believe that's still correct.
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Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:05 pm

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In post 2835, Michael Scott wrote:Right. So you mean you *block* scum kills when scum tries to kill someone on the opposite side. Am I correct?
not necessarily. we weren't told what sort of actions mafia could take with these units. if the scum kill specifically involved sending two or less light flying air units over us in the list? yes, we would block that.
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Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:07 pm

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Varsoon, would you be able to make a fullclaim rn? Who'd you target N1?
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Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:19 pm

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Compiled a list of claims and revealed roles so far; If I missed something please correct it.
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Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:43 pm

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@AC: Sorry if I'm being a bit nit-picky here, but why'd you move down SIX spaces on N1? You were at position 5 after STW's lynch; that would only make you have Alch, Creature and Varsoon below you. How is that "in-the-middle"? Explain.
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Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:45 pm

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Positions at D1, post-N1 kills, D2, post-D2 kills, D3.
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Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:50 pm

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In post 2840, Michael Scott wrote:@AC: Sorry if I'm being a bit nit-picky here, but why'd you move down SIX spaces on N1? You were at position 5 after STW's lynch; that would only make you have Alch, Creature and Varsoon below you. How is that "in-the-middle"? Explain.
sort of expected others to move down as well. but the bigger reason was to be between scum and our townreads, and to just be near townreads.
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Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:35 pm

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In post 2458, Almost Chara wrote:As for why the shot has been blocked, I did offer an explanation. Something anti-something. Since I don't know the game itself I can't specify exactly, but there are certain defensive mechanics that block certain offensive actions. Like, om so many games there are anti-air defenses to shoot down jet fighters but they do not affect tanks. Submarines that will sink ships but not attack aerial/ground units.
In post 2519, Almost Chara wrote:Also notice that we are looking for that someone that blocked Varsoon's shot, and I know it wasn't us, so I am looking for someone who has been close enough to STW and has moved towards where the Vig was (they probably didn't expect Varsoon to jump up 7 notches).
Almost Chara, I'm just clarifying here: You posted the top quote because you knew about your own role, but at the same time you were confident it wasn't *you* who blocked it because you only target enemy air units; Correct?
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Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:58 pm

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no, it's because none of our abilities were active until after we had rooted during night 1.
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Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:00 pm

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i realized the wording of our claim on that was ambiguous. we had no powers until being rooted. it couldn't have been us that blocked it.
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Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:07 pm

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Oh, okay then. Looking forward to your reads/solve! I strongly feel jjh and ProFlavor are scum here. I very strongly feel T&L is town, and I think Alch is town too. Pint I'm unsure about.
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Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:11 am

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In post 2839, Michael Scott wrote:Image

Compiled a list of claims and revealed roles so far; If I missed something please correct it.
I feel as if Varsoon has claimed ground by having to root in place.
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Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:11 am

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Varsoon is probably air, he said he can move anywhere.
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Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:11 am

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In post 2846, Michael Scott wrote:Oh, okay then. Looking forward to your reads/solve! I strongly feel jjh and ProFlavor are scum here. I very strongly feel T&L is town, and I think Alch is town too. Pint I'm unsure about.
What about AlmostChara?
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