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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:13 am

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Wait, where did Varsoon say he was grounded?

Almost Chara falls into the same as Pint - their claim seems to check out, and is consistent with their D2 speculation and play, so I want to call them town, but I am paranoid about the slot.
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:13 am

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In post 2826, Michael Scott wrote:I'm leaving out one tiny part of my role which I don't think is relevant to town WRT solving for scum, but will help town.

I'm Zerg Overmind, an informed town ascetic. I'm a ground unit, a building.

I was informed that multiple X-shot BP exist; and also that there are no town doctors, jailkeepers, rolestoppers or aliens that could target air units.
Did you heavily imply before that the multiple BPs existed were town just to get me and jjh to stop yelling at each other?
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:15 am

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In post 2718, Varsoon wrote:
In post 2711, pinturicchio wrote:@Varsoon did you target someone at N1?
Nah JJH basically nailed my role.
I had to spend a night rooting into a place in the playerlist and then I could kill a ground-based player.

UNVOTE:
Wanted to see how you'd respond
Still would be fine with lynching you though.
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:16 am

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I don't get your question? Yes, partly because the 1v1 was caused by a reaaon which you believed, which I knew to be untrue.
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:17 am

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I still believe jjh927 is very likely scum though. I thought I caught a contradiction in his claimed night movement, but I ran through the claimed movements and it checks out. No one seems to have lied about their movements, at least.
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:19 am

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In post 2853, Michael Scott wrote:I don't get your question? Yes, partly because the 1v1 was caused by a reaaon which you believed, which I knew to be untrue.
Maybe I just thought when you said your info earlier that the multiple BP claims exist that you were also saying multiple town BPs exist. I think I might have just taken the original information and went too far with it in my head.

But, yeah, I am pretty certain JJH is scum BP here.
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:21 am

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FYI, 100% walking past Almost Chara tonight.

Aim for the bottom! Then I'll rap like Drake with Started from the middle now I'm here.
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:22 am

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What benefit would walking past AC give?
Who do you think is scum apart from jjh?
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:29 am

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In post 2857, Michael Scott wrote:What benefit would walking past AC give?
Who do you think is scum apart from jjh?
I think ProFlavor and Mewtaph is probably the scum team, though, full disclosure, after my like half a year break, I am not super confident on my reads right now.

I was hoping to have Gamma really check me into place as a hydra, but, ce'st la vie!
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:30 am

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Oh, as to walking past AC, I don't think there is much benefit there, but I'm still going to do it. I don't see anyone else with something funnier or better than me just walking to the bottom.

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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:19 am

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In post 2839, Michael Scott wrote:Image

Compiled a list of claims and revealed roles so far; If I missed something please correct it.
You missed off your own info about there being multiple bulletproofs which makes me sceptical it's true when Brass should have caught something if he got the same kind of role PM I did
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:33 am

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What should brass have caught?
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:35 am

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Are you referring to the part about certain abilities being able to get past the BP?
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:58 am

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Yeah, it's very close to what the PM says and if he got the same description I don't think he would have continued to doubt whether or not I was bulletproof
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:32 am

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What's your case on T&L?
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:26 am

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I'm an Informed Zerg Spine Crawler
The role is technically informed town novice ground adjacent vigilante.
I'm a ground unit and a building.
I am informed that the mafia team has at least one ground unit--this is redacted on my death flip.
I have to spend night 1 moving to a point in the player list, and then rooting there, then I can't move again.
After rooting, I can kill ground units ADJACENT TO ME on the playerlist. People flip with tentacle kill flavor.

N1 I moved as I claimed earlier to root in the middle near Kokichi.
N2 I killed Kokichi.
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:26 am

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I tried lying about my role and how it worked to wifom scum but I just screwed us, I think.
I'm gonna stop lying about my roles from here on out. I'm not a good enough player to actually catch scum with that leverage.
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:38 am

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Hmm. Varsoon, do you think scum!BP is a possibility?
Because you could attempt a vig shot on jjh tonight to test his claim - if he's scum and lying, he gets vigged; if he's town and telling the truth, nothing happens.
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:44 am

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Yeah but isn't this LYLO or something?
I kinda don't want to kill anymore.
I shouldn't have in the first place.
Town vig always hits town except when it doesn't and then it's just a winmore role
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:44 am

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Both NKs are flavored as "killed by Marine Fire", do you think it implies kills by ground units?
That would also imply proximity, right? Pint was a spot away from both NKs...
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:45 am

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It's LyLo but if jjh is town, he's BP, right?
So it shouldn't affect him, and it's equivalent to not killing.

This way we can ensure he's not lying about BP, at least.
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:48 am

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It's not LyLo; We're 6v3 now. We can afford exactly one Mislynch :(
But yeah, I still think jjh is a safe shot.
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:55 am

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Aight but when if this is a scum gambit and I am redirected or something
I don't like it
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:57 am

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In post 4, Krazy wrote:Roles that will not be in THIS game include: Lyncher, Godfather, Psychologist, Lightning Rod,
Redirector
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There's no Redirector.
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:58 am

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MS, if you’re telling the truth about your role then JJ can’t be lying about his bulletproof since there’s multiple BP’s and exactly 2 have claimed. Trying to shoot him would just be trying to confirm something you should already know is confirmed.
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