Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!

[Michael Scott]

I also said anyone having BP shouldn't claim that they do.

[Alchemist21]

Well unless someone else claims BP I’d believe the claims we have.

[Michael Scott]

Regardless, Varsoon should vig jjh927 over no-killing.
The former at least confirms that jjh isn't scum lying about BP *in the case* that someone else in town has BP and hid that info, as I said.

I don't see why anyone should claim BP when we can confirm this. Do you think otherwise?

[pinturicchio]

Did your role PM say that the BPs were town? If not, jjh could be scum BP, so I think lynching him today is better than shooting him

[Michael Scott]

Eh, screw it - I think too much discussion here is just going to confuse us, and that confusion isn't worth the gambit.
The part I stated I omitted was that I'm X-shot BP. (Not revealing X)
I thought I could bait a NK. This is how I was 'informed' of multiple BP; since I'm the other BP.
I'm pretty sure T&L and jjh927 aren't W/W here so I made that assertion.

[Michael Scott]

I think brassherald is playing *way* outside his scumrange, looking at Gundam Mafia; given the way he reacted to jjh927's roleclaim, I'm extremely confident he's town.

[Alchemist21]

Eh, screw it - I think too much discussion here is just going to confuse us, and that confusion isn't worth the gambit.
The part I stated I omitted was that I'm X-shot BP. (Not revealing X)
I thought I could bait a NK. This is how I was 'informed' of multiple BP; since I'm the other BP.
I'm pretty sure T&L and jjh927 aren't W/W here so I made that assertion.

Wait so did your role even mention the existence of other BP roles or did you just make that part up completely?

[Michael Scott]

Made up.

[pinturicchio]

But that still doesn't confirm if jjh is lying or not, so shooting him at night is still suboptimal I think.

Also you're giving me paranoia, like you're gambiting hard and you're scum with T&L, so let's just lynch jjh and move on

[pinturicchio]

Lol wait, so you're just a plain X-shot BP??

[Michael Scott]

Lol, just compare Brassherald's play in Gundam Mafia with his reactions here.
Even in that case you're proposing - that I'm gambiting hard with scum!T&L, what purpose would that serve, Pintu?
Unless you mean {MS, T&L, jjh} is the scum team with jjh bulletproof?

[Michael Scott]

Informed Ascetic X-Shot Bulletproof.
My only information was that town doc, JK, rolestopper, alien can't target air units.

[Alchemist21]

I’m getting suspicious of his slot as well. He didn’t bring up the option of shooting JJ until Varsoon said he can only shoot adjacent players. I checked the current order and the other player adjacent to Varsoon is ProFlavor. We could be looking at a Mew/ProFlavor/MS scumteam here.

[pinturicchio]

No, the paranoia was that you were gambiting 'cause, with you suggesting a shot on jjh, you could drive to a different mislynch and win with said shot; like, jjh wouldn't be solved for D4 since he would survive and you would push him to win. So better solve that slot today instead of tomorrow. Like, flipping jjh today is not pro scum!MS since that would confirm jjh's role and you would be pushed tomorrow.

[Michael Scott]

How do you townread JJH, Alchemist21?

That shooting JJH is a good option didn't occur to me till then. I was suggesting not killing anyone earlier.

[pinturicchio]

Lol, just compare Brassherald's play in Gundam Mafia with his reactions here.

You're talking about a game that finished on May, right? 'Cause between May and now brass could've changed his playstyle dramatically since he had a site hiatus at some point. I know I changed since my hiatus, so why wouldn't he?

[Alchemist21]

By the claim. I’ve already considered what purpose 2 BP roles could serve for balance and the way JJ and Brass claimed, along with the resulting 1v1, was a natural progression that I’d expect if both are Town BP.

[Michael Scott]

@Pint: You're saying I'm gambiting now just so I can set up JJH for tomorrow and achieve a different mislynch today?
That's a *bit* of a stretch, right - since it seems easy for a JJH wagon to happen anyway, and if I prevent JJH's ML as scum, there's a good chance I or a buddy of mine could get lynched - since no one's really out of lynch danger at this point.

[Varsoon]

Did your role PM say that the BPs were town? If not, jjh could be scum BP, so I think lynching him today is better than shooting him

Yeah I think scum may have a BP and it's erroneous for us to assume BP = town.

I’m getting suspicious of his slot as well. He didn’t bring up the option of shooting JJ until Varsoon said he can only shoot adjacent players. I checked the current order and the other player adjacent to Varsoon is ProFlavor. We could be looking at a Mew/ProFlavor/MS scumteam here.

Could be.
I literally could not tell you who is town or not right now and I don't feel like putting in the effort at all.
Congrats on another scum win in Starcraft, largely my fault for being a fuck up

[Michael Scott]

You're talking about a game that finished on May, right? 'Cause between May and now brass could've changed his playstyle dramatically since he had a site hiatus at some point. I know I changed since my hiatus, so why wouldn't he?

He could've, but the way he went about responding to jjh927's claim I find hard to fake considering his prior playstyle. I don't think it's easy to change his scum playstyle dramatically to whatever he did.

[Michael Scott]

it's erroneous for us to assume BP = town.

If JJH being BP doesn't lessen the chances he's scum, we should lynch him today, then - confirming he's BP doesn't give us much to go off of.

[Michael Scott]

I don't feel like putting in the effort at all.

You should, man. You're the only confirmed town at this point.

[jjh927]

Hey look we can add something to the list of role PM lies jjh927 has exposed

[jjh927]

What the shit about brass' initiation of a 1v1 was towny? I can point to a bunch of really bad points in those posts

[pinturicchio]

@Pint: You're saying I'm gambiting now just so I can set up JJH for tomorrow and achieve a different mislynch today?
That's a *bit* of a stretch, right - since it seems easy for a JJH wagon to happen anyway, and if I prevent JJH's ML as scum, there's a good chance I or a buddy of mine could get lynched - since no one's really out of lynch danger at this point.

It IS a stretch, that's why I said it was paranoia. Paranoia is stretching things. That's why I'm going after the simpler move: lynch jjh, he get's solved right now and not tomorrow.