Merchant's Daughter [Game Restart!]

[PvtUrist]

Pagetop for

[PvtUrist]

VOTE:

Spoiler:

You feel like you're trying to stall or something.

what do you wanna know?

I'm getting a weird impression that you're paying a lot closer attention than you're trying to let on, so I'm getting paranoid of you

Weren't you going to explain your Alisae read Pvt?

If you wish, then I shall.

Why not just explaining it here rather than "If you wish" bullshit?

Pink Ball!Clemency pair was formed (both roleplayed/yet to seriously weigh in)

Celica was accused of wolfing or something

Slaxx and Dunn are town

redacted

are scum

otherwise nothing too much out of the ordinary (for the players, that is)

Why redact the scum?

So it's about me being shit at posting, not my post being shit. You're scum reading the way I write, not the actual content I wrote.

[Nancy Drew 39]

hey ank
hey aaaaaaaaaank
i'm stoned but wanna hear my verdict on Celcia

lay it on me

what is your verdict on Celica?

well, let me give you everything.
Ride or Die: Ank Slaxx nancy Jibril Pink Ball
Probably town: PvtUrist
I don't remember I'm stoned lol: Krazy
Tryharding too much and its worrying me but I haven't played in 6 months so my knowledge of it is probably incorrect: Fire
Is probably just scum: Dunnstral
The powerwolf or I'm just really paranoid: Celica
The rest I either don't need to read because it'll sort itself out (tw) or I just haven't read their posts (reinhardt, fucking roleplayers), and the rest just aren't relevant yet.

hmmmm

what about celica has been giving you powerwolf vibes? is it just general play stuff or did specific posts give that impression

read the post on Slaxx going from ignoring stuff to that read seems off also there is a particular part of that read that bugged me
Playwise she seems like the powerwolf, but it could be I’m just fosing her cause I respect her experience? /shrug

Adel/Celicia would be an alright pair for the dance I think.

Why? Still unclear about the scumreads on Celica though.

[Slaxx]

I’m not super strong on Cecila but they’re nullish and have bad associatives with my scumread so seems like a good pairing.

[Slaxx]

Do you understand the logic of us not partnering together? I want to but I think we eat the kill if we do.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I didn't say, "Dunn you should pair with me to suicide" I asked him to understand his thought process about how he approaches pairing

I'm not advocating suiciding, but considering he did suicide out of tilt last time, I honestly wasn't sure how he was approaching pairing this time.

Fair enough, but I wasn't sure if you would want to just leave with a scum this time

Like, I don't know why you'd look at that game and want to keep fighting to be one of the top pairs when you could just scum hunt and pair with someone you'd like to see die

Aren’t these 2 statements, contradictions?

Tinfoil thought: Are you trying to tilt either Slaxx or both of Slaxx/Dunn, so they will do the opposite? A bit of a reach, I realize but where’s the strong opposition coming from?

Or maybe you just don’t want Slaxx and ME to pair up, possibly?

I mean, you were opposed to that in your original list, iirc?

I’m probably wrong about this but I don’t quite get what your deal is with that pair?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Do you understand the logic of us not partnering together? I want to but I think we eat the kill if we do.

I don’t think we need to rush this decision. Do you really think we’d be the most obvtown couple though? I thought Ank and tw were more obvtown read then me but then maybe thing’s have changed since I last read the game?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I’m not super strong on Cecila but they’re nullish and have bad associatives with my scumread so seems like a good pairing.

Can you link or quote those posts for me? Thanks.

[Slaxx]

Fundamentally we need 4 people that are absolutely locktown, because scum will kill one of our top two pairings. Then we need a pairing that will accept that the top 2 pairing truly is locktown so that one of them will reliably lynch themselves in 4-way. If we can do that we should win.

Also this setup got rid of the Innocent Child, and scum were already kind of doing OK in the dances, so I want to say this game is probably already 55% scumfavored to 45% townfavored so if it's a loss it's all G

Yeah a lot of this. Along with the fact paranoia in reads happen etc etc. Coming up with 3 lock town pairs along with the townwork it would require for it to truly work is most likely not gonna work. We'd also be basing our game on 1 day phase.

I have not played this before, but I believe that we should probably come together and decide who is the scummiest gentleman first, that gentleman will be eliminated by not having a dance partner. After that, I am going to be learning whilst doing.

So far, my only read is Slaxx as a townlean.

I've townread and scumread this post a few times. Mostly because it's a very captain obvious post and I can't tell how I wanna read it. I'm leaning on just wondering if anyone else finds it good/weird. Along with leaving it alone

scumreading me for ???reasons??? and then backing it up because I did something you'd do as scum is baffling. why did you guess Slaxx 2as my townread in the first place?

Was this post serious or a joke. I can't tell with you the worst

Ank

How are you townreading me already?

N0 cop obviously
I'm not townreading you I was just going to ask you to please keep posting so I don't deathtunnel you

Why would you deathtunnel me this early in the game? That's a bizarre statement from you with our most recent history of your earliest reads on me being wrong.

Can you give more detail on this? Links would be nice

[Slaxx]

the only time I've seen you be this lolconfident about a read was an s/s so you're heavily pinging me with this shit

How would this be s/s, though?

Are you claiming scum right now Sir Goose?

I want to call Ade town for this post. I was hardscumreading it at first and then I thought. 'Does scum Ade look at this and post it?' I leaned no because it's just so bad. Given he's an alt he probably has enough mafia experience. If he was a newbie I would sr that still, but here? Na

Oh noes firebringer stole the girl I was gonna ask to dance. That's an instant scumread.

In all seriousness though, FoS at FB and TW for pairing up so quickly. Someone isn't going to get to dance, and we have to strategize about who it should be. Now FB and TW live anyway, even if we suspect them.

1: mcqueen - Nancy Drew 39
2: Slaxx -- Ankamius
3: Pink ball -- Celica
4: Adelbert Steiner -- jibril
5: Krazy -- Dunnstral
6: Firebringer -- the worst
7: Reinhardt -- Alisae
8: PvtUrist -- Clemency

predance -- allomancer

Here we go guys I solved the game now we can spend the rest of this thread shitposting

Why do I die here?

I found the instant dance up towny not scummy. Mostly because it would obviously bring attention to both the players in question. I don't see why scum want to do that right away. It felt like an IDGAF town move.

The worst is town.
Firebringer and Adelbert are scum.
You're welcome.

What makes you say this

I propose the ladies keep their gold count a secret

No innocent child in this version of the setup? Interesting

I wonder what that was mostly for. Not really like in a mafia sense, but in a gamemaker sense that I wanna know why FG did this in the first place. However this is a post game conversation or for my partner PT that I can rant in...if people want to partner with me that is.[/quote]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Fundamentally we need 4 people that are absolutely locktown, because scum will kill one of our top two pairings. Then we need a pairing that will accept that the top 2 pairing truly is locktown so that one of them will reliably lynch themselves in 4-way. If we can do that we should win.

Also this setup got rid of the Innocent Child, and scum were already kind of doing OK in the dances, so I want to say this game is probably already 55% scumfavored to 45% townfavored so if it's a loss it's all G

Yeah a lot of this. Along with the fact paranoia in reads happen etc etc. Coming up with 3 lock town pairs along with the townwork it would require for it to truly work is most likely not gonna work. We'd also be basing our game on 1 day phase.

I have not played this before, but I believe that we should probably come together and decide who is the scummiest gentleman first, that gentleman will be eliminated by not having a dance partner. After that, I am going to be learning whilst doing.

So far, my only read is Slaxx as a townlean.

I've townread and scumread this post a few times. Mostly because it's a very captain obvious post and I can't tell how I wanna read it. I'm leaning on just wondering if anyone else finds it good/weird. Along with leaving it alone

scumreading me for ???reasons??? and then backing it up because I did something you'd do as scum is baffling. why did you guess Slaxx 2as my townread in the first place?

Was this post serious or a joke. I can't tell with you the worst

Ank

How are you townreading me already?

N0 cop obviously
I'm not townreading you I was just going to ask you to please keep posting so I don't deathtunnel you

Why would you deathtunnel me this early in the game? That's a bizarre statement from you with our most recent history of your earliest reads on me being wrong.

Can you give more detail on this? Links would be nice

Dunno about this one but I find the hedginess aspect of it a bit strange but otherwise I think it’s fine.

[Nancy Drew 39]

the only time I've seen you be this lolconfident about a read was an s/s so you're heavily pinging me with this shit

How would this be s/s, though?

Are you claiming scum right now Sir Goose?

I want to call Ade town for this post. I was hardscumreading it at first and then I thought. 'Does scum Ade look at this and post it?' I leaned no because it's just so bad. Given he's an alt he probably has enough mafia experience. If he was a newbie I would sr that still, but here? Na

Oh noes firebringer stole the girl I was gonna ask to dance. That's an instant scumread.

In all seriousness though, FoS at FB and TW for pairing up so quickly. Someone isn't going to get to dance, and we have to strategize about who it should be. Now FB and TW live anyway, even if we suspect them.

1: mcqueen - Nancy Drew 39
2: Slaxx -- Ankamius
3: Pink ball -- Celica
4: Adelbert Steiner -- jibril
5: Krazy -- Dunnstral
6: Firebringer -- the worst
7: Reinhardt -- Alisae
8: PvtUrist -- Clemency

predance -- allomancer

Here we go guys I solved the game now we can spend the rest of this thread shitposting

Why do I die here?

I found the instant dance up towny not scummy. Mostly because it would obviously bring attention to both the players in question. I don't see why scum want to do that right away. It felt like an IDGAF town move.

The worst is town.
Firebringer and Adelbert are scum.
You're welcome.

What makes you say this

I propose the ladies keep their gold count a secret

No innocent child in this version of the setup? Interesting

I wonder what that was mostly for. Not really like in a mafia sense, but in a gamemaker sense that I wanna know why FG did this in the first place. However this is a post game conversation or for my partner PT that I can rant in...if people want to partner with me that is.

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But now there’s more of that, so it seems like there could be a possible pattern with her reads on him? Why is she both townreading and scumreading so many of his posts? Okay, I’m kind of getting the nullread a bit more.

I also don’t agree with her that making a dancelist - before everyone has even posted - is clearly town motivated. Why can’t scum do that too?

[Ankamius]

Do you understand the logic of us not partnering together? I want to but I think we eat the kill if we do.

I don’t think we need to rush this decision. Do you really think we’d be the most obvtown couple though? I thought Ank and tw were more obvtown read then me but then maybe thing’s have changed since I last read the game?

the problem is that most of the gentlemen are null or sketchy, not the general read level of the ladies

[Pink Ball]

pinkie promise?

I promise

[Celica]

The powerwolf or I'm just really paranoid: Celica

I don't remember the last time I ever got called a power wolf so this is really flattering. Although I guess it would only be flattering if I really was a wolf. Still, it's nice to hear this!

I think I see what you mean, the case itself is really not good now that I'm actually looking at it (spoilers, I skipped it when I first saw it)

do you know of her outside the site enough to have an idea of how much experience she has?

What about my case is bad? You should tell me more or at least explain why Slaxx is town more.
Alisae wouldn't know who I am so it's not really that relevant.

I can easily see that entire post being a stretched case to push on you with

I mean that's exactly what it is. I'm pushing Slaxx because I scumread him and I see a lot of people have him as a townread. Obviously I'm not okay with that and when I've asked people to explain why I'm wrong I haven't seen a good answer. I don't even recall a lot of answers at all.

3 point 2 major things are scummy about it the first being the overall thing as a whole is probably a scum motivated push. Its the kind of push that looks like how you bus your buddies (Note: I am not saying it is bussing but what I am saying is its nuisanced enough to be a scumbus). Its the kind of case that scum would post. It even feels like there’s a safety of “I mean I guess this looks like a towny post” but I don’t think its a genuine evaluation of the slot. The second being that there are just the emphasis of “Trying to stop reads” which probably makes no sense to me or is just not scummy but I feel like assuming both?

This is kinda word soup, but let me try to run this down. 1) Theirs no such thing as a certain kind of push on how you push a buddy. If such a thing existed they'd be easy to catch. So your point is kinda moot. What makes it a scum push over a town push? You don't explain that. Also how are you getting a 'trying to stop reads' feel from that case? I never said people should stop reading Slaxx I just posted a reads list and everyone asked for my read on Slaxx. So I don't get how you're reading my case like that.

that case strikes me more as scum trying to diminish the influence of a townslot than a bus

I have no reason to do this though when I could just nightkill Slaxx. He's the most townread gent minus Allo who I am actively trying to pair with. What would town me do in this spot? I asked for reasons why Slaxx was town and I wasn't seeing any so I posted my case. The way you and Ali are acting is like I said to stop trying to read Slaxx all together. I never did that at all.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Do you understand the logic of us not partnering together? I want to but I think we eat the kill if we do.

I don’t think we need to rush this decision. Do you really think we’d be the most obvtown couple though? I thought Ank and tw were more obvtown read then me but then maybe thing’s have changed since I last read the game?

the problem is that most of the gentlemen are null or sketchy, not the general read level of the ladies

Isn’t it usually that way?

But seriously, you gents really need to town tf up here.

We should decide who is likely the sketchiest of the men, since one will defacto be unpartnered.

[Celica]

Adel/Celicia would be an alright pair for the dance I think.

No thank you.

Do you understand the logic of us not partnering together? I want to but I think we eat the kill if we do.

I don’t think we need to rush this decision. Do you really think we’d be the most obvtown couple though? I thought Ank and tw were more obvtown read then me but then maybe thing’s have changed since I last read the game?

the problem is that most of the gentlemen are null or sketchy, not the general read level of the ladies

Agreed for the most part

[Allomancer]

{Nancy Drew, the worst}
{Celica, Krazy}
{Ankamius, Alisae}
{Slaxx, Dunnstral}
{PvtUrist, Adelbert Steiner, Clemency, Jibril}
{Firebringer, Pink Ball}
{Reinhardt}

[Celica]

Can you talk to me on rein? I don't think his posting is good per se, but I don't think it's as bad as people are making it out to be.

[Pink Ball]

Jibril we are on page 42, you have 11 posts, and none of them have contributed to the game.

This guy right here, officer

[Celica]

I'm happy Pink is dying because he's upsetting me and he's a big sr for me. Mostly the former though.

[Alisae]

<— Spends all night reading 120 chapters of manga
Yeah I think I’ma call it a night.

[Alisae]

Well I’ll stick around for a bit I guess
Down to talk with someone as long as it doesn’t keep me up too long

[Ankamius]

the read is genuine

This is a Trust Tell. A bannable offense and needs to be removed from the game.

Was this in reference to our mindmeld or separate?

separate
it was a shitpost

lol

do u see what i see

I'm suddenly starting to think maybe not

Wait you're not on Adel SR?

It is funny to me that once again you have scum read me, and it matters not what account I am on.

The fact you're an alt makes that way way worse tbh.

The fact I townread Adel coming back to this push on him from Slaxx really bad, the post I forgot to quote is him saying he scumreads Adel for Adel saying ‘did you claim scum the worst?’ That post may look bad yeah, but I don’t see why scum Adel even posts that. It feels like a really easy scumread to make and a push I can see Slax going for.

Why is this necessarily scummy? It's early enough in the game where there isn't a whole lot more to go on and you even said yourself that the post he's referring to was bad, so what's the problem with this?

People jumping on fb already are probably scummy

I haven't read anything yet

Why even say that if you haven't read? Why not let it naturally progress instead of trying stifling it while you catchup?

Actually I really don't like Dunn's entrance as it processes.

The timing of these posts on dunn just strikes me as off. Feels like a way to discredit, not really trying to solve, but trying to stop reads.

This is essentially the same thing you did with your first point. Dunnstral calling people scummy for pushing lynchbait at page... 7 or 8 is bizarre and worth calling out, what's the problem with it necessarily? It would look a lot more scummy if the general tone of the posts were reversed, but I think most scumplayers would be more self-aware than to respond with reasonable followup questions and then immediately after make a post that could be interpreted as an attempt to discredit Dunn.

Ank and Urist are null
Dunn is town

Why is Dunn town?

Good analysis, seems towny. Don't worry yourself, this is early on, reads can and will change.

...He had like four posts

Why does post count matter when it comes to a read? I don’t think it does at all. Seems like another reason for trying to stop reads.

This is him essentially saying that Dunnstral hasn't posted enough to warrant "Good analysis, seems towny." This I agree with, it's a pocket attempt at a glance and it makes sense that he'd specifically pick this fight because it's a townread on his scumread.

Okay

Allo and I agree on Krazy

Before this post he made comments on Allo being scummy/maybe scum. So if that’s true, you and your scumreading agreeing on a read doesn’t make you pause.

That can just as easily be interpreted as "okay cool Allo might just have been hasty on Dunn, he's got his head in the game now"

Gut read I think Adel is town

>_______________>

The people Slax scumreads right here. One of them (Dunn) calls the other town. (Adel) What makes me pause here is Slax does nothing about it. Not a call out, no questions why, nothing. I would expect Slax to call this out as town or at least question it. All we get is ‘>_>’

It's more an expression than anything. Gutreads are notorious for being unexplainable, so what would he have called it out with or questioned about it?

[Ankamius]

that case strikes me more as scum trying to diminish the influence of a townslot than a bus

I have no reason to do this though when I could just nightkill Slaxx. He's the most townread gent minus Allo who I am actively trying to pair with. What would town me do in this spot? I asked for reasons why Slaxx was town and I wasn't seeing any so I posted my case. The way you and Ali are acting is like I said to stop trying to read Slaxx all together. I never did that at all.

If he's mostly on the right track, then it's entirely possible that he'd be able to convince enough of us to lynch your partners before your chance to kill him even comes up.