Merchant's Daughter [Game Restart!]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nobody has mentioned yet that I need a partner because I have 8 coins, people have only mentioned that I need a partner because I'm town lol

Well, it’s important you be paired with someone who will vote similarily to you then, right? Since your partner apparently gets your 8 votes and you only get one.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Last note to Nancy

I think only like 3 people here are aware of my history on the site, so it's unlikely I'll be specifically targeted for being me unless duckling or you are scum

So

Not necessarily true. Scum will likely target one of the obvtown couples/players and most people have you, tw, Allo, Alisae, Slaxx and myself, currently as obvtown.

I’m trying to keep you in the game, because we need you to stay around as long as possible, right?

Why though?

Because you’re currently one of my strongest townreads. You played very differently in your recent scumgame.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nobody has mentioned yet that I need a partner because I have 8 coins, people have only mentioned that I need a partner because I'm town lol

unless a lot of people are sure you're scum, no way town lets our highest coin player die.

Whomever she partners with, controls the first lynch.

[Nancy Drew 39]

This game is so sexist.

[Ankamius]

I think town isn't fully comprehending how dangerous this is?

I'd call it a legitimate strategy for the 7 and 8 coin lady to not partner at all because the partners of them are the only slots that will get an opportunity to lynch a lover pair by themselves

It's cool and all to make all these partner plans, but it's arguably more important to prevent scum from being able to lolhammer the most competent slots out of the game and leave the last scum to pull a relatively simple endgame. It's a lot less dangerous to purposely leave the three scummiest gentlemen to die

[Ankamius]

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

[mcqueen]

I think town isn't fully comprehending how dangerous this is?

I'd call it a legitimate strategy for the 7 and 8 coin lady to not partner at all because the partners of them are the only slots that will get an opportunity to lynch a lover pair by themselves

It's cool and all to make all these partner plans, but it's arguably more important to prevent scum from being able to lolhammer the most competent slots out of the game and leave the last scum to pull a relatively simple endgame. It's a lot less dangerous to purposely leave the three scummiest gentlemen to die

while this is almost accurate, not quite. out of 17 players, one will be forced to leave after pre-dance, since they will not have a partner. down to 16 players, a person with 8 votes can

almost

lynch by themselves. they still need another vote. so, what you said is not wholly correct, although I know what you meant.

[Ankamius]

Actually in that theory, I think Krazy is going for two scum lovers in the top 3 pairs while the third is the dedicated intermission kill

But that's not really important to my point as much

[Allomancer]

if we don't pair the 7 and 8 coin lady then we end up with 12 people right off the bat and go straight to intermission

[mcqueen]

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

you're actually ticking me off. you are scumreading me almost solely based off your read of another player. i've come into the game now; why not let my play do the talking?

[Ankamius]

No wait, that is only relevant for my partner, not the 7 coin lady

Disregard that part

[Ankamius]

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

you're actually ticking me off. you are scumreading me almost solely based off your read of another player. i've come into the game now; why not let my play do the talking?

So?

A scummy player is having scummy interactions you and you are reciprocating

[Ankamius]

Revised point, it's a legitimate strategy to remove 2 gentlemen and me to remove that possibility from the game, is it not?

[mcqueen]

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

also, again you've twisted my words. i said i didn't know what was going on between Celica/Pink Ball, but if anyone pushes them solely because they're easy slots at the moment (during their argument), it's very suspect. two players on the brink of fighting is the epitome of easy target.

this can all be solved by pointing out to me, "hey, I think player X's push on Celica/Pink Ball is good, because {one of them} did this earlier!" and i'll back off. but if you're wagoning just to wagon on two exposed players, then you're scummy and that's the end of story.

[Allomancer]

Revised point, it's a legitimate strategy to remove 2 gentlemen and me to remove that possibility from the game, is it not?

yes. the question then becomes do we want to risk losing you?

[Firebringer]

Nobody has mentioned yet that I need a partner because I have 8 coins, people have only mentioned that I need a partner because I'm town lol

unless a lot of people are sure you're scum, no way town lets our highest coin player die.

i frankly don't care if highest coin player dies.

[Firebringer]

This game is so sexist.

get me a sandwich

[mcqueen]

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

you're actually ticking me off. you are scumreading me almost solely based off your read of another player. i've come into the game now; why not let my play do the talking?

So?

A scummy player is having scummy interactions you and you are reciprocating

i don't care what interactions Krazy had with me; you've written me off pretty hard so far, instead of seeing how I play. all I said to the guy was basically "hey it's cool to see you again, it's been awhile." you act like i can control what this guy says about me.

[Allomancer]

Revised point, it's a legitimate strategy to remove 2 gentlemen and me to remove that possibility from the game, is it not?

Also remember, you can leave the dance if your partner goes rogue and force them to die.

[Ankamius]

Btw I haven't even mentioned the worst part about that situation

If I'm partnered to scum and they end first dance as soon as we are down to 14, then they just make me the conftown and kill some other pair, leaving us with 4 pairs to find 2 scum in, forcing me to suicide if we get only town on the next lynch.

It's a shitty situation to be in, which is exactly why I'm demanding a strongly town partner or none at all

[Firebringer]

you know whats funny.

i enjoy making games and planning the whole mechanics of them and thinking how will players think about utilizing them, but when i am in game i could care less about them. they are like a spice on top of a game that i enjoy but i am not like obsessed about talking about.

mechanics cool talking about them to death gets old fast.

[Allomancer]

to be honest Ank, giving you a towny partner and getting you both killed in intermission is probably better than just letting you and a gent die before the dance

[Ankamius]

FB I'd like to lose because we got reads wrong rather than because scum played the setup better than town

[Allomancer]

ya know what would suck? if the 7 coin lady is scum. she pairs with a scum gent and we get screwed.

[Ankamius]

to be honest Ank, giving you a towny partner and getting you both killed in intermission is probably better than just letting you and a gent die before the dance

I'm fine with either

I don't think trying to keep me alive past intermission is worth the risk