Open 76 - Polygamist Mafia (Over!) before 604

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Confirm.

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Aww still not started...

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Ok then.

No game talk until Day starts though

-Cow

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Yay!

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Yeh you just directly stole my pre-game suggestion.

Anyway, i'm with KS.

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And I wouldn't say it's an exploit, but a design.

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Random Vo...

err whut?

Oh hey a good idea to get the game rolling!

I'm in favor of that.

So who's your lover?

Why have you two not claimed?

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Ok. Well we both thought of it independantly then...I think Gor/Far are probably town for that reason.

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How would he steal your pregame suggestion unless you were paired with him?

I posted it after Cow said we could talk but then edited it out.

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quick question - was your post that was mod edited where you made the suggestion? If so, then my FOS isn't needed.

Yeh...Fastposted me, lol.

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And I wouldn't bother waiting to claim...I think claiming pairs is pro-town, I would find an absolute refusal to kinda scummy...

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So what you reckon the chances are the other 4 are disorganised scum?

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Cloudy?

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Got prodded.

vote Farside

for voting me

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Yes, seriously.

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I don't think i'd find that scummy like I do Farside.

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I don't think i'd find that scummy like I do Farside.

Explain?
I'm not seeing the case against Zombie at the moment. What about post 87 did you find scummie?

I didn't like the way you voted for me.

Also not seeing the ZS case.

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Bionic yours is mostly because you are defending your partner before he's able to defend himself. Stop that, it looks scummy. (At least to me)

I don't find it scummy, town lovers know each other are innocent.

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Back!

Ok. Well we both thought of it independantly then...I think Gor/Far are probably town for that reason.

I don't think i'd find that scummy like I do Farside.

Two quotes, not outstandingly far apart from each other.

FoS: Xtoxm

Also, the Zombie wagon is a good one. Not a good time for a lynch now, but I agree with the argument against 87.

That doesn't mean you are clear for if I find you scummy later on.

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That, alongside the quote where you say you think she's probably town not long before your sudden about face, is very scummy.

Why/how is that scummy?

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Doesn't she know the orignal role though?

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And are alignments revealed Cow?

Not paying much attention...?

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@Xtoxm & killa seven:
how much pregame conversation did you guys have? What did you talk about during that time?

Very little.

Pretty much my suggestion of mass claim and that was it...

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I'm finding ZS/B both looking town.

I think Gor/Far are clashing... :s (as in, I find Far scummy, and Gor town)

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I was right about you, PEG, and GW in WEM.

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In weather mafia, altho I died early, in my last suspicion set I correctly named Porochaz and Cyberbob as scum.

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PYP I was scum, and meta break I think everyone I named is still alive.

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I think thats all of them.

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Ok, you're right, I'll give you Weather. Catching me in WEM doesn't count, as you were on my side until the last day when you lynched be due to impatience.

No, I figured you out.

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Also also, Xtoxm is REALLY starting to get on my scumdar with his lurking. He is not the kind that lurks. Here he'll make a lot of one-sentence or one-word posts, but NOTHING of substance. In fact, I've only ever seen him lurk like this as scum.

This is usually very true of me, but now I don't have as much time to check the site.

Exams to work for and

Other stuff like that

. Need my grades for uni. I still try to check the site every day. My activity will continue to decrease from here in until the 25th.

Rule 3
-Cow

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Xtoxm and K7 are the only lover couple who doesn't have a member voting for you.

Ahh...This is quite interesting. With the knowledge that we are town, we pretty much know ZS and Bionic are town now, otherwise there's a scum killing themselves.

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Sorry for the language, Cow. Would you be so kind as to

prod

KS?

I'd like your opinions on who we should vote for, if you're still happy with Grimmy...

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Oh dear...

unvote

Bionic, what's this about unvote so I can vote? If you think someones scum you vote them.

Hey z.

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Lol Adel

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I might be able to go with this one, i've found panzer scummy but dcorbe looks townie...

(Btw, unvoted cos I don't think they are scum anymore. Liked farsides reactions. Thought it would have been implied by the act of unvoting.)

I'm thinking Adel-OGML scum atm, but panz doesn't look too bad.

I'm not gonna be on next week btw.

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I can't figure out why you are using stall tactics right now.

Hey, I know you're town an all but I don't like this comment...

He says he hasn't got an opinion of him yet, what is the problem with this?

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So if that's the case, where are these accusations even coming from?

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So if that's the case, where are these accusations even coming from?

I wanted to get his opinion on Panz and he is dancing around it instead of answering.

I don't see what the problem is. He's catching up on 20 pages, have you done that (or more) before? You don't get confident reads on everyone right away.

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I can't figure out why you are using stall tactics right now.

Hey,

I know you're town an all

but I don't like this comment...

He says he hasn't got an opinion of him yet, what is the problem with this?

wait...what? How do you

know

I am anything? ZS knows I am town. Nobody else does except scum.

We were the only pair not voting you. I am town, so I know you must also be town.

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I can't figure out why you are using stall tactics right now.

Hey,

I know you're town an all

but I don't like this comment...

He says he hasn't got an opinion of him yet, what is the problem with this?

wait...what? How do you

know

I am anything? ZS knows I am town. Nobody else does except scum.

We were the only pair not voting you. I am town, so I know you must also be town.

That is completely flawed logic.

No it's not.

I will ignore Farside's comment

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Ok, I will assume you are not taking the piss on me, and merely have not noticed.

There is another pair not voting them.

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I can't figure out why you are using stall tactics right now.

Hey,

I know you're town an all

but I don't like this comment...

He says he hasn't got an opinion of him yet, what is the problem with this?

wait...what? How do you

know

I am anything? ZS knows I am town. Nobody else does except scum.

We were the only pair not voting you. I am town, so I know you must also be town.

That is completely flawed logic.

No it's not.

I will ignore Farside's comment

yes. scum could easily have their scum pair voting for them. It has been discussed in this thread. Also, Adel/Qman are not voting for ZS so you aren't the only pair.

They were.

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I can't figure out why you are using stall tactics right now.

Hey,

I know you're town an all

but I don't like this comment...

He says he hasn't got an opinion of him yet, what is the problem with this?

wait...what? How do you

know

I am anything? ZS knows I am town. Nobody else does except scum.

We were the only pair not voting you. I am town, so I know you must also be town.

That is completely flawed logic.

No it's not.

I will ignore Farside's comment

yes. scum could easily have their scum pair voting for them. It has been discussed in this thread. Also, Adel/Qman are not voting for ZS so you aren't the only pair.

They were.

Or atleast, Adel said that anyway, I can't remember if I checked it.

Anyway, why do you have a problem with me believing you are town, no matter your role, it's win/win...

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Are you countering my logic?

You're claiming scum?

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If I can find a pair that I can comfortably associate with Panzer/Dcorbe, it will increase my confidence in lynching them.

It is not us...I think, if they are with someone, it's OGML and Grimmy.

But anyway, I will go with this one I think.

vote Panz

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Hey all, am back can play now!

Z - Was

not

a vacation lol!

Anyway, what i'm thinking is Adel/OGML. I've glanced through most of what I missed, Bionic makes much sense. Also, having the (belief) that he is town, means I also know OGML is scum. This is what i'm choosing to believe, call it scummy if you so wish, but it is only OGML who has called me on it who I basically know is scum. I think Gorrad is the final townie so him being set on me/Bio is quite worrying.

vote OGML

Plus, if the pairing was Gor/Adel, they could have lynched OGML by now.

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Yeh I know, I meant if the pairs containing those people were the 4 scum. Sorry for being unclear.

OGML? Well, I've found OGML quite scummy, been fairly impartial to Grimmy, but looking at the list Bio made. Look at it from my point of view - Assume that me and Bio are town. That leaves Adel/You, Adel/OG, You/OG. Now, assuming Bio pair is town, the You/Adel pair has won. Hence, OGML is scum.

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Adel is voting for me currently.

And like I said, I think Bio is town. To the extent that I am happy rule him out.

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Adel is voting for me currently.

And like I said, I think Bio is town. To the extent that I am happy rule him out.

She unvoted you.

Oh sorry, didn't notice.

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question for Grimmy, Xoxm, and zoraster: who can't be scum with whom, and why?

Bio => Anyone
Me => Anyone
Adel => Far
Far => Adel

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I'm pretty sure i've explained this a few times...But anyway...Votes lay on him in such a way that we were the only ones who could have been scum with him, and i've found his play all round to look very pro-town anyway.

Want to vote, honey? Do you agree with what I've said about OGML?

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Hmm. I see 2 possibilities.

1. Adel/Far are scum, and they just hadn't got round to lynching town.

2. Adel see's it going down, and has to try something to stop it.

I'm pretty sure Adel, assuming she is a townie, knows OGML is innocent..?

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Well i'll

unvote

for the mo, to see what Bio makes of this.

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Yeh...I'm wondering if you are a better lynch prospect than OGML. I want to see what Bio makes of this...

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Lol, you're trying to say i'm scum...?

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vote Adel

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Adel's recent move makes me certain she is scum. I can only happily lynch OGML if they are scum together...I guess an Adel lynch is not plausable after Bio's contribution.

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xtoxm - are you saying the group is adel/Q/farside/gorrad since you listed it as the only possibility for Adel?

It is either that or Adel/OGML. I can no longer see OGML/Far at this point.

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So now you've changed your mind on me being scum?

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Well, ok then.

And I need Bio on any wagon for town to win...And they aren't going to change.

So I will go with this.

And Bio, no i'm not scum with Adel.

unvote vote OGML

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One of them will...They have no choice really...

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I really dislike the interaction between adel and xtoxm. I think you are wrong about OGML at this point. 2 people are inactive and look how Adel calls them out.

unvote:
vote: Adel

She calls out xtoxm for blinking but doesn't vote him. This pairing makes the most sense. I was voting OGML mostly to see who jumped on it and who didn't. What type of votes it promoted. I'm more certain of xtoxm and Adel at this point and either would work.

She said she thought OGML was scum with me, so voting me would have been silly, when I have 1 vote and OGML had 4.

You're change of heart is interesting...

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*sigh*

now it will take all three of us.
if anyone starts to get cold feet, read thorough all posts by player name individually. Note interaction or obvious lack of interaction. Look at farside's vote for OGML and Gorrad's reaction to it.

Why "sigh"?

It makes me somewhat more comfortable.

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What would be the point? We could just vote OG and win if we were scum.

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I thought that was a confension til I got half way through the sentence...

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And actually, I wouldn't say it's hard for town to win, cos if one scum dies town win.

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Sheffield Uni Thanks

I'm pretty confident i've made it, I worked hard for the exams and they went well, mainly.

You live in England too?

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We need more hammer...

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Yay!

I'll make a few comments about the game after my STEP exam this after noon

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I think Farside did a good job of unconvincing me she was scum after her early play. (Hence the unvote).

Hasd, I don't get why you say dcorbe was playing dumb/scummy, I didn't see it, I voted them cos I found Panzer scummy.

(

I'd also like to pre-in please, i'm down to 6 games, imminently 4, after my exams...Lol

)

I'm sure there were things I had in mind this morning when I didn't have time to get it down..

Also, I liked the setup a lot too. I think it should be run again. When I first signed up I thought it 2 pairs of lover scum (on the same team), and when I found out it was 4 lover I thought it was weighted to town, but they took it to lylo, so I guess not.

Let me know what you thought of my modding, with regards to

prodding

Good. I think 72 hours is a good period for prods.

replacements

I support the forced replacement of players who are personally abusive in game.

flavor

There isn't really much room for it in this setup. 3 sets maximum. But yeh

vote counts, everything.

Liked it. I think you're a good mod

Thanks in advance.

Welcome

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I think that was only Adel.

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No I don't think so either...You were scum...

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I wasn't here for all that, only glanced over most of it, though I did notice dcorbe vote Panzer.