Mini Normal 2052: Mixtape Mafia [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

Overkill anything else you’d like to claim?

[singletonking]

Tbh I kinda regret setting Springtrap aside yesterday, I'm leaning towards lynching him today

This is potentially the Day before LyLo though so I definitely support massclaim

[Gamma Emerald]

PvP was NM’s Mason partner right?
Also the fact NM got killed could probably be mined for some god intel on the identity of scum

[texcat]

scum team is either Jenga/Diamond or Springtrap/Gamma (maybe Singleton as well)

Which is it? Or which do you think it is?

[Jenga]

maf would kill the person capable of getting more innos

The problem here is that this would be much more true tomorrow.

If Springtrap is town, and he is the last of the town power, the likelihood of a scum win is actually quite high if scum push through a mislynch on him today.

Green springtrap lynch --> nightkill on one of the three quasi-masons leaves us in non-stop lylo through game end.

At first you might think, "well we'd have two masons, that doesn't sound so bad"

but actually it is. We are likely to get to five way, given that we would have a 60% chance of hitting scum in the 3/5 non-investigated players.

However, things start looking rough on day 5 when we would be down to 1 innocent child, 2 scum, and 2 unknown towns. That's actually 50% scum win right there.

THEN, 3-way looks gross with 1 scum and two towns and no innocent children left. I think scum wins these scenarios somewhat more than 50% of the time.

If Delta Diamond is scum and scum have a rolecop/neapolitan/whatever, then they would know that the town power structure is already revealed, at which point the Springtrap mislynch is possible and likely gamewinning for scum.

[Jenga]

I also played with a scenario where DD/ST is S/S but that scenario also involves DD being scum, which matches my read anyway

VOTE: DD

[PvtUrist]

VOTE: Jenga

[Jenga]

Do you disagree with my reasoning?

[Gamma Emerald]

I also played with a scenario where DD/ST is S/S but that scenario also involves DD being scum, which matches my read anyway

VOTE: DD

wat

[Delta Diamond]

I also played with a scenario where DD/ST is S/S but that scenario also involves DD being scum, which matches my read anyway

VOTE: DD

wat

i can explain

is another scum knowing ST will flip scum and trying to set me up to be a buddy

it’s like a chainsaw and distancing at the same time

[Delta Diamond]

I don't understand why you're limiting to just those people. You have literally never said "texcat" or "Vorkuta" in your iso as far as I can tell. Why are you excluding them from your reasoning?

actually no this interaction isn’t s/s between ST and Jenga so Jenga can be paranoid town

[Vorkuta]

Guys we can't afford to dilly dally- massclaim time.
My suggestion- popcorn with urist starting us off

[PvtUrist]

Obviously flying laser shooting pumpkin

Mason with NM

[Vorkuta]

Ok now uhh... pass the popcorn to the person you'd like to claim next, keeping in mind that if scum gets to claim first, the can't take as many risk,

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... im#Popcorn

[Springtrap]

Well, to get the easy four out the way of this Mass-Claim...

Pvt: Mason (dead partner)
Overkill: Neighbor (dead partner)
Springtrap: PT Cop
Delta: Claimed VT day 2.

Also a reminder too Delta: calling me ST when there's someone who has been referred to as STK in singletonking isnt the best idea... Just Spring is fine, or if you do still want to say 2 letters, SP.

[PvtUrist]

Jenga dear, care to claim?

[PvtUrist]

Also this

{Urist, stk, Gamma, Springtrap}
{Vorkuta}
{DD}
{Overki11, texcat}
{Jenga}

[0verki11]

scum team is either Jenga/Diamond or Springtrap/Gamma (maybe Singleton as well)

Which is it? Or which do you think it is?

im bad ignore that for the most part, I swear there were less people alive. Anyway im confused on why the hell springtrap is still alive and that makes me worried.

[PvtUrist]

im confused on why the hell springtrap is still alive and that makes me worried.

is why springtrap is alive

[Jenga]

VT.

I guess texcat is next

[Jenga]

im confused on why the hell springtrap is still alive and that makes me worried.

is why springtrap is alive

so basically you agree with my reasoning but scumread me for something else--why?

[PvtUrist]

Vorkuta is town

DD is VT

lynch within {Overki11, texcat} {Jenga}

and we're set

[PvtUrist]

-

Vorkuta

Spoiler:

Just says stuff I generally agree with- I'd like to think that his playstyle of

I'm listening if you have something to say

mirrors mine, and in that vein I can see him being my more extreme equivalent. I really don't understand how scum can get revealed D1 because if scum were that obvious with bad scummy behavior come D-1, that's just idiot scum bad player master-next level WIFOM bluffing I don't expect that kind of bad coming from a spire player

The caveat is that I don't like some of their

treehugging

agendas. While I'm willing to give them quite a bit of leeway to perform mind games, reaction tests, pursue their own goals, some posts genuinely feel like "YES, I'm a townie! Now onwards my fellow townie bretheren! We shall strike the iron while it's still hot crush the crusader scum where they stand!

[Jenga]

im bad ignore that for the most part, I swear there were less people alive. Anyway im confused on why the hell springtrap is still alive and that makes me worried.

Basically I look at DD coming in today wanting a hard 1v1 with Springtrap. Springtrap hasn't really put a lot of work into looking townie, and of the three claimed tprs, he is the only one that actually could be mislynched (if he is town).

A. If Springtrap is not a real PT cop, I don't know where the rest of the real town power is
B. DD's predecessor repped out under possibly the scummiest circumstances given he just PM'd the mod basically as soon as the masons he was pushing claimed
C. DD is pushing Springtrap today without even really waiting for Springtrap to out results or understand it

I guess he is arguing I am just "paranoid town" but between A and B on their own I really want to favor Springtrap here.

Basically, in my understanding, scum want a good mislynch today.

If Springtrap guiltied one of them, they probably would try to 1v1 him. I actually thought this was the reason DD might have pushed Springtrap at first--he might have thought Springtrap was going to announce a guilty on him, and wanted to push the investigative first.

I did wonder whether scum might not know the rest of town's power structure. Would they keep Springtrap alive out of fear of their kill being wasted on a doctor? The problem here would be that if this was the case, then they would have killed someone who had not claimed yet, not a mason.

But the question then remains, why would they not kill PT cop over a mason given that. But as Pvt just pointed out, the paranoia about Springtrap makes him the most likely mislynch today, if he is town. And whereas an additional clear would be bad, scum's actual winrate--if Springtrap is real town power here--is actually quite high.

[PvtUrist]

btw 722 is a not at all serious joke post that only a hand full of people would get