Merchant's Daughter [Game Restart!]

[Allomancer]

suddenly the game transforms into the mod is mafia

We are all over here with 1-8 coins

And the mods the motherfucking bank

can we deposit coins during the first dance to get interest for the second dance?

[Ankamius]

Pink Ball:

I still kinda feel like mcqueen is still coming at this game with the same rough mindset that I initially saw from him

Spoiler:

You know what’s Krazy? Krazy was the IC in my first game on site.

Saw a couple posts. People aren’t offering dances? Sucks, cause I wanna offer to Nancy but I can’t look scummy right?

cool. i know i said i'd read, but chances i do are realistically slim. however, i'm town and i'm not sure how to make that clear while not being able to keep up.

i mean i do have time this weekend, so maybe i'll skim. i'd rather not replace out, though. this will help, even if it paints me as scummy for asking;

what is the current gamestate? i know we are figuring out who to pair with as a strategic measure. upon joining, i wasn't sure if i wanted to pull a Firebringer and request a dance right away, or follow suit with everyone else. i know who i want to pair with already and i've made that clear. so, to me, while i'm selfish and anti-town, i'm eager to request a dance now, and hope Nancy accepts.

who is generally being scumread, and the same with townreads? who is controversial?

i mean i do have time this weekend, so maybe i'll skim. i'd rather not replace out, though. this will help, even if it paints me as scummy for asking;

what is the current gamestate? i know we are figuring out who to pair with as a strategic measure. upon joining, i wasn't sure if i wanted to pull a Firebringer and request a dance right away, or follow suit with everyone else. i know who i want to pair with already and i've made that clear. so, to me, while i'm

being

selfish and anti-town, i'm eager to request a dance now, and hope Nancy accepts.

who is generally being scumread, and the same with townreads? who is controversial?

added an important word before someone claims scumslip.

But how are we supposed to know if you're scum? I think the point Celica was trying to make is that it's pointless guessing at your ali until we have more interactions (ie don't use process of elimination)

that's why i included "kinda stupid" because with no interactions or content, you're unlikely to know/think i'm scum (unless you think i'm lurkerscum)

but she still included i should get a partner if i'm scum. that shouldn't have been said. while i get the redundancy in me calling it out, at the same time, if i was scum and i happened to be the one to get left out, that's not a bad thing for the town as Celica makes it seem.

I'm oh dearing because I've had a Krazy+Celica+mcqueen team in my head and the first thing you do is associatives with Celica

:lol:

There's evidence for it even without any of your input

You just happened to add to it

how is there evidence? i don't care what you think Krazy did to soft buddy me, I don't know Krazy's role and I haven't read enough of the thread to place him, either. It's certainly possible, but it still kind of annoys me that you think the dude who has a legitimate reason for lurking (and on V/LA, mind you) is mechanically scum.

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

you're actually ticking me off. you are scumreading me almost solely based off your read of another player. i've come into the game now; why not let my play do the talking?

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

you're actually ticking me off. you are scumreading me almost solely based off your read of another player. i've come into the game now; why not let my play do the talking?

So?

A scummy player is having scummy interactions you and you are reciprocating

i don't care what interactions Krazy had with me; you've written me off pretty hard so far, instead of seeing how I play. all I said to the guy was basically "hey it's cool to see you again, it's been awhile." you act like i can control what this guy says about me.

Replaces out due to frustration, continues to post

Totally not theater.

i should iso krazy. seems genuine from the few pists i read.

cone at me bois all my micro reads are against the majority

Ank why am i scum with celica and krazy?

just; what makes me scum with them? Idc about krazy being lynched or much about celica, why was I put in there?

Like one of the biggest reasons I'm scumreading Krazy now is because of that plan he enacted, which fits with the Celica+mcqueen scumreads because if we follow his plan, we literally have 2 scum in the final 6

Celica went to bat to defend Krazy against Slaxx and later said mcqueen should get a partner while Adel or Rein get left out, and then mcqueen comes in and the first thing he says is that people shouldn't be scumreading Celica

Really?

Thanks @pvt

I actually saw this earlier. But, me coming in was not dependent on any potential ideas you have of me being scum with ejther of them. I had some downtime at college and decided to get on. Sooner or later i needed to do stuff in this game to prove my “obvtownness” others claim. So i took that free time and tried to use it. I’m sorry that i happened to show up at that time . But it’s NAI

Celica pull up a chair, let’s talk.
I don’t think ur going with your pink ball push, and I don’t think your ank push is going to go anywhere atm.
What are some other topics you wanna talk about atm, because you’re wasting your energy atm and its starting to become hard to sort.

I'm debating if I want to pair with a gent I want dead because I don't think I'm making end game at the moment or if I want to go with Allo. My fear with going with Allo is he'll get dragged down with me. I'm confident in my town game giving my scum game is nothing compared to this, but it's hard to work off when I have no reason why I'm being scumread.
I think mcqueen should get a pair atm. I'd want adel or Rein left out of the dance, but I lean adel atm

*Actually this might be the post referred to

lol at my above then? i mean i see why Ank would think i’m scum, but i’m not . And frankly if I come in and play like my usual town self, with people who claim to read me easily, i don’t see why this post carries so much weight in Ank’s eyes

People said McQ is an easy read... not seeing it.

Why not?

I think PvtUrist is scummy. More to say about the latter in a minute.

2) Pre-dance mechanic that doesn't allowed pushing lynches on D1

Okay, this post intrigues me because it's true; but, I can kinda see how Urist's Ank-tunnel in this game, is similar to his support of EchoVision's mislynch on Day 1 in our Newbie game together. Yes, I'm going back to that; No, it might not be the best way to scumhunt; But, it's what I've got to work with right now.

Urist interacted with people pretty well on that Day 1, and EchoVision was more of a policy lynch, but at the time I replaced in, had I gotten more time, I wasn't feeling EchoVision!scum, but kinda had to go along with it. I'm not feeling Ank!scum here, either.

So THEN, on Day 2, is when Urist tunneled T-Bone, but both of us had scumreads on him and it was pretty obvious. Also, Urist was a Cop. Enter in where I'm not sure if his play here is because anyone who's town is just "town" (townie, almost) and not a PR, or if it's because he's scum.

Are we certain Pvt has that same power to control a lynch during the Dance phase? Certain posts of his strike me as having a different tone than that Newbie, while others feel similar. So, I'm not really sure and I'm keeping him at leanscum for now.

this feels extremely subpar for the level of town I like to play to, although I don't care and I'm going with it. This is my thought process, and I'm very open to any rebuttals against it.

like what I've been seeing of mcqueen's play is him being very self-conscious when he has eyes on him and otherwise just pushing things that don't really get anywhere. It's really weird to me how the only push he made needed an addendum about how he's open to being proven wrong when nobody had even commented on it yet

I still kinda feel like mcqueen is still coming at this game with the same rough mindset that I initially saw from him

Which if I recall was scummy, yea?

I’m going back and forth.

like am I high or something

his entire approach to the game feels like scum who is feeling like they entered a game they think they're going to lose

[Slaxx]

They're fine. Wrong on some levels, but fine. PvtUrist is scum, mcqueen I don't get why he's so slow since I thought you were scumreading because of associations and the other two players are higher than him.

I have my suspicions on Nancy, though, but hopefully I'll be dead before having to push her

Woah wait what? Why?

[Pink Ball]

Sorry that was at Ank; and saying mcqueen being slow was an intended pun, but I meant low obviously.

Pedit oh ok, so the scumread has progressed. How about those associatives you talked before?

[Pink Ball]

Woah wait what? Why?

Is this a wolfslip? Too many w's

[Allomancer]

why does fb have more posts than me in this thread? this has to change

[Ankamius]

Sorry that was at Ank; and saying mcqueen being slow was an intended pun, but I meant low obviously.

Pedit oh ok, so the scumread has progressed. How about those associatives you talked before?

well tough

I specifically was waiting for krazy to respond to my accusation and him up and leaving instead basically put me in a position of not being able to test my own theory against itself and now I have enough people saying I'm wrong to just really not care about it anymore

so

[Pink Ball]

Lol ok, thanks Ank for the patience, I just skimmed the few pages to be caught up. Ok yeah your list is fine since it's consistent with what you've talked about in the thread. Having all your thoughts here is townie

[Slaxx]

Woah wait what? Why?

Is this a wolfslip? Too many w's

You don’t have to start pushing Nancy but I’d like to know why you’re doubting her as town.

[Ankamius]

I don't think Nancy has done anything to obvtown at this point, but I'm not seeing any red flags to indicate that she's scum so :SHRUG:

it's probably not something worth revisiting until we already have two scum dead

[Pink Ball]

'cause her related with the game posts/unrelated with the game posts ratio is much lower than in his previous town games. She's been less solvey and all over the place I'm used to.

P-edit yes I agree, that's why I'm expecting to be death before pushing her. But this are my two cents about her

[Slaxx]

I don't think Nancy has done anything to obvtown at this point, but I'm not seeing any red flags to indicate that she's scum so :SHRUG:

it's probably not something worth revisiting until we already have two scum dead

Not to be aggressive, but I’d prefer you didn’t give him an out to shut down discussion.

Especially if he plans on leaving early, I want his perspective now. He acted like he would be able to not have to worry about it after he’s dead but why not share it now for us to assess and use?

[Ankamius]

the problem is that she was extremely all over the place when I saw her as scum

and she's bragged to me multiple times that her scumgame has drastically improved so it's apparently a lot harder to pick it out

so who knows

[Ankamius]

I don't think Nancy has done anything to obvtown at this point, but I'm not seeing any red flags to indicate that she's scum so :SHRUG:

it's probably not something worth revisiting until we already have two scum dead

Not to be aggressive, but I’d prefer you didn’t give him an out to shut down discussion.

Especially if he plans on leaving early, I want his perspective now. He acted like he would be able to not have to worry about it after he’s dead but why not share it now for us to assess and use?

well I meant more actually pushing to try to flip her

but I understand your point

[Slaxx]

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

[Slaxx]

It’s alright Ank he posted anyway. I get ya.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy where are your reads at

You, Slaxx, Allo, Alisae, FB, Tw for town.

Adel, Rein, possible scum.

townlean on McQueen, PB.

Null on Urist, Jbril, Clem, Krazy, Celica

I’m probably wrong on anything below the top line, though.

[Pink Ball]

But this post from Nancy is good. If her reads are this good, she's most likely town

[Nancy Drew 39]

'cause her related with the game posts/unrelated with the game posts ratio is much lower than in his previous town games. She's been less solvey and all over the place I'm used to.

P-edit yes I agree, that's why I'm expecting to be death before pushing her. But this are my two cents about her

With all of the replace outs, do you blame me?

[Nancy Drew 39]

But this post from Nancy is good. If her reads are this good, she's most likely town

I get even townier once I’ve seen a few flips.

[Slaxx]

Nancy where are your reads at

You, Slaxx, Allo, Alisae, FB, Tw for town.

Adel, Rein, possible scum.

townlean on McQueen, PB.

Null on Urist, Jbril, Clem, Krazy, Celica

I’m probably wrong on anything below the top line, though.

Have you explained FB town? If not, can you? If so tell me to shove it and look in your ISO

[Dunnstral]

And what about me?

[Firebringer]

I am the towniest of the scum

[Ankamius]

Hi FB

What do you have for me

[Firebringer]

an apple