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Post Post #19075  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:51 am

There was actually a congratulatory announcement for a couple of other workers who had gotten the raise which I grinned through and didn't say anything, but then asked afterward why this didn't match what he had said previously - at which time he denied having said it. And explained that the only reason I hadn't already completed it was because of what he had said.

From memory it was a very rudimentary course that was being doled out in chunks so we would have all of the material available at the end of the course in order to answer the questions given, and that was the option I preferred rather than coming in a couple of hours a week extra with no extra pay to sit around and be read the text out of the book, and answer the week's given questions in 5 minutes.

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Post Post #19076  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:57 am

Anyway. I was just wondering what the odds are on Trump dying of natural causes within say the next week. Heart disease, pancreas, liver, kidneys, really any kind of devastating and immediate death which we could say is caused by his own conduct in life. Can you die of lying or of being a person who callously causes suffering for others?

Is that kind of demise something it's okay to be hopeful for?

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Post Post #19077  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:57 pm

I'm undecided on 2020. I know the economy is strong and personally I am better off financially than I have been at any other time in my life. I don't know that I can attribute that to Trump but I don't know that I want to change captains either. Also I tend to be conservative economically and liberal socially. Not sure I agree with Warren and Sanders on their tax proposals in principle. On the other hand I know it sucks to be a minority or woman under the Trump regime.

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Post Post #19078  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:01 pm

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Post Post #19079  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:47 pm

In post 19078, YellowSnow wrote:I don't know that I can attribute that to Trump

you can't
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Post Post #19080  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:12 pm

Yeah but progressive economic policies didn't really help during Obama and I don't think you can just arbitrarily assign all good outcomes to democrats and all bad outcomes to republicans.

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Post Post #19081  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:36 pm

In post 19081, YellowSnow wrote:Yeah but progressive economic policies didn't really help during Obama and I don't think you can just arbitrarily assign all good outcomes to democrats and all bad outcomes to republicans.

what progressive economic policies of Obama's "didn't work"? are you complaining about his stimulus programs which were well regarded by the economics profession or anything else in particular?
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Post Post #19082  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:40 pm

also to argue that trump has been good for the economy you have to make the case that his policies and trade wars benefited the economy more than if he hadn't undertaken them at all. not just point to the economy growing - which is largely out of his control
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Post Post #19083  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:26 pm

In post 19081, YellowSnow wrote:Yeah but progressive economic policies didn't really help during Obama and I don't think you can just arbitrarily assign all good outcomes to democrats and all bad outcomes to republicans.

Obama never enacted progressive economic policies

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Post Post #19084  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:27 pm

In post 19083, tosser wrote:also to argue that trump has been good for the economy you have to make the case that his policies and trade wars benefited the economy more than if he hadn't undertaken them at all. not just point to the economy growing - which is largely out of his control

dont forget the shutdown that evaporated billions into thin air

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Post Post #19085  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:17 pm

This falls under the "government is a good thing" theory I suppose.

Obamacare was not progressive I assume.

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Post Post #19086  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:22 pm

you were talking about the economy not the size of the government
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Post Post #19087  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:26 pm

In post 19086, YellowSnow wrote:This falls under the "government is a good thing" theory I suppose.

Obamacare was not progressive I assume.

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Post Post #19088  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:26 pm

and the government is obviously a good thing

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Post Post #19089  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:35 pm

In post 19078, YellowSnow wrote:I'm undecided on 2020. I know the economy is strong and personally I am better off financially than I have been at any other time in my life. I don't know that I can attribute that to Trump but I don't know that I want to change captains either. Also I tend to be conservative economically and liberal socially. Not sure I agree with Warren and Sanders on their tax proposals in principle. On the other hand I know it sucks to be a minority or woman under the Trump regime.


Why do you not agree with them on the tax proposals?

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Post Post #19090  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:38 pm

In post 19089, shaft.ed wrote:and the government is obviously a good thing

Have we not learned from the last shutdown?
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Post Post #19091  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:41 pm

Don't agree on robin hood economics.

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Post Post #19092  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:45 pm

In post 19092, YellowSnow wrote:Don't agree on robin hood economics.

currently you have the rich robbing the poor
glad thats ok with you though *thumbsup*

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Post Post #19093  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:49 pm

So at what point is the equality considered equitable then?

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Post Post #19094  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:51 pm

In post 19092, YellowSnow wrote:Don't agree on robin hood economics.


It’s not really Robin Hood economics. The wealth disparity in this country is ridiculous. Wages, benefits, and a decent standard of living have been slowly plucked away from people for decades now and it’s finally become too much. This isn’t thievery for charity, it’s resetting a balance that’s gotten absolutely out of hand. I’m fine with millionaires and even billionaires, but not while the median American is struggling the way they are now. How much wealth and power are people allowed to consolidate before asking for change doesn’t become Robin Hood economics?

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Post Post #19095  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:53 pm

looks like Yellow decided to just ghost my posts and actually elaborate on any of his nonsensical assertions
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Post Post #19096  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:55 pm

I don't think you should be penalized for being wealthy. We live in the largest economy in the world and the "average american" is better off than a good portion of the rest of the world and the rich shouldn't feel guilty or punished for success.

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Post Post #19097  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:59 pm

In post 19097, YellowSnow wrote:I don't think you should be penalized for being wealthy. We live in the largest economy in the world and the "average american" is better off than a good portion of the rest of the world and the rich shouldn't feel guilty or punished for success.


They’re not penalized for being wealthy.

Do you believe in a flat tax?

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Post Post #19098  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:00 pm

if the tax rate is below 100% then how is a punishment for success
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Post Post #19099  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:04 pm

In post 19093, shaft.ed wrote:currently you have the rich robbing the poor

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