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Post Post #158 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:44 pm

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Oh noes firebringer stole the girl I was gonna ask to dance. That's an instant scumread.

In all seriousness though, FoS at FB and TW for pairing up so quickly. Someone isn't going to get to dance, and we have to strategize about who it should be. Now FB and TW live anyway, even if we suspect them.
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Here we go guys I solved the game now we can spend the rest of this thread shitposting
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Post Post #173 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:51 pm

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In post 171, the worst wrote:I am not Adelbert.
Wow, really! I thought you /inned with an alt to the same game as your main!
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Post Post #177 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:54 pm

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The worst is town.
Firebringer and Adelbert are scum.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:56 pm

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So the lady with 8 coins should be extra careful about who she pairs with. I swear to god, if the worst has 8 coins, I'm done with this game.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:59 pm

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Looked over the list of ladies. Clem is the only one I've played with before, so he'll be easiest to read. I reserve Clem for myself as long as I have a townread on him.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:01 pm

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In post 196, Ankamius wrote:I'm kind of surprised it took this long for an Adel scumread to start appearing, the entrance to the game in of itself was scummy
I disagree. Entrance was fine, got scummier later.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:04 pm

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In post 198, Ankamius wrote:
In post 194, Dunnstral wrote:Ank coming in here and claiming 8 coin 19 minutes into the game thread being open seems scum motivated. When you've got a tiny little brain it makes sense that you'd wait to see what other people think first, right? Seems like a scum move
That's NAI

I revealed because of my mood, most games as either alignment, I'd be grandstanding about it.
Big mistake though. If you're town, now all the scum are gonna buddy you and you're gonna end up picking a scum as your dance partner.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:07 pm

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Ank and Urist are null
Dunn is town
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Post Post #217 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:08 pm

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In post 215, Slaxx wrote:
In post 213, Allomancer wrote:Ank and Urist are null
Dunn is town
Why is Dunn town?
Good analysis, seems towny. Don't worry yourself, this is early on, reads can and will change.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:10 pm

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In post 219, Ankamius wrote:
In post 208, Allomancer wrote:
In post 198, Ankamius wrote:
In post 194, Dunnstral wrote:Ank coming in here and claiming 8 coin 19 minutes into the game thread being open seems scum motivated. When you've got a tiny little brain it makes sense that you'd wait to see what other people think first, right? Seems like a scum move
That's NAI

I revealed because of my mood, most games as either alignment, I'd be grandstanding about it.
Big mistake though. If you're town, now all the scum are gonna buddy you and you're gonna end up picking a scum as your dance partner.
I don't think that's as big an issue as you think it is, actually.
You do realize that votes are based on coins, right? If you pick a scum as your partner, we give scum tons of votes.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 220, Slaxx wrote:
In post 217, Allomancer wrote:
In post 215, Slaxx wrote:
In post 213, Allomancer wrote:Ank and Urist are null
Dunn is town
Why is Dunn town?
Good analysis, seems towny. Don't worry yourself, this is early on, reads can and will change.
...He had like four posts
Six posts, actually.
In post 223, Slaxx wrote:
In post 220, Slaxx wrote:
In post 217, Allomancer wrote:
In post 215, Slaxx wrote:
In post 213, Allomancer wrote:Ank and Urist are null
Dunn is town
Why is Dunn town?
Good analysis, seems towny. Don't worry yourself, this is early on, reads can and will change.
...He had like four posts
@Allo it should be very easy for you to tell me why he was townie, specifically, in the immediate future, since his ISO is so short. I look forward to hearing from you.
In case you hadn't realized, we're not voting right now. I have no reason to convince you of my reads. I'm just posting them so I can say "I told you so" later.

In other news, Slaxx is town.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:15 pm

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In post 228, Slaxx wrote:Why won't you just freaking tell me why you thought he was town? I'm not buying it and it looks like pocketing.
Because it's a gut read, in case you couldn't tell by the fact that he has seven posts. The anaylsis in those posts is good, and my gut thinks he's town. There's nothing else to say. I know you're not going to be convinced by this, so why bother?
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Post Post #236 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 231, the worst wrote:he's also spewing a lot of content and if he's wolfing he's gonna become pretty obvious pretty quick
wait what's wolfing? never heard that term before.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:17 pm

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Townread order: Tw, Slaxx, Dunn
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Post Post #245 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:19 pm

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In post 240, the worst wrote:
In post 234, Slaxx wrote:
In post 231, the worst wrote:he's also spewing a lot of content and if he's wolfing he's gonna become pretty obvious pretty quick
Being opaque about a weird townread on someone with
six
(not four) posts, and then townreading the guy pressuring him while continuing to obfuscate as if to diffuse the situation?

That's not obvious?
He's uhhh too unconcerned about the way he's presenting what is essentially a soulread

he's actually increasing his lynchability and compromising his convincingness for the benefit of sorting slots

it's either
town acting on instinct
or a pretty dicey scum move and if he's actually this ballsy as scum I doubt he'll become less lynchable
Pretty much. Read some past games of mine. I'm pretty lazy. The only reason I'm even posting is because this is a large and I'll get hopelessly lost if I don't. Posting my reads helps me as much as it helps you guys.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #15) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:20 pm

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In post 244, Firebringer wrote:
In post 239, Firebringer wrote:Dunnstral is scum.
Dunnie and Worstie don't seem S/S though. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The fact that you would even consider this is damning in and of itself. The only reason I don't want you to be the first lynch is because we need tw.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #16) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 247, the worst wrote:Just because we're linked doesn't mean he's locktown
My wincon is to find and lynch scum, not to survive til endgame. that's a luck thing

If you think this phase is unimportant you probably also think
people who form reads out of rvs are stupid
which is automatically a playstyle clash. this phase is 100% relevant and I don't see any reason not to take it seriously.

your scumread on me is biased and either ftpov of not valuing this phase or ftpov of not taking the time to consider what I'm actually doing
Go read this and get back to me on my playstyle.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #17) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:23 pm

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In post 257, Slaxx wrote:
In post 246, Allomancer wrote:
In post 244, Firebringer wrote:
In post 239, Firebringer wrote:Dunnstral is scum.
Dunnie and Worstie don't seem S/S though. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The fact that you would even consider this is damning in and of itself. The only reason I don't want you to be the first lynch is because we need tw.
You don't want to lynch someone you think is scum because we lose a townie? That's not how you win this game.

What the hell happened in the last couple pages
Tw seems powerful so far. I still want to lynch FB, but initally, tw's reads are more important. We'll lynch FB second or third, just not first.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #18) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:26 pm

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FB vs Dunn is not SvS ergo Dunn is town propter FB is scum
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Post Post #276 (isolation #19) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:30 pm

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In post 53, Krazy wrote:Fundamentally we need 4 people that are absolutely locktown, because scum will kill one of our top two pairings. Then we need a pairing that will accept that the top 2 pairing truly is locktown so that one of them will reliably lynch themselves in 4-way. If we can do that we should win.

Also this setup got rid of the Innocent Child, and scum were already kind of doing OK in the dances, so I want to say this game is probably already 55% scumfavored to 45% townfavored so if it's a loss it's all G
Setup speccing - great way to look town as scum
In post 79, Krazy wrote:1: mcqueen - Nancy Drew 39
2: Slaxx -- Ankamius
3: Pink ball -- Celica
4: Adelbert Steiner -- jibril
5: Krazy -- Dunnstral
6: Firebringer -- the worst
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8: PvtUrist -- Clemency

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Here we go guys I solved the game now we can spend the rest of this thread shitposting
No idea how you made this list, at least who you think is scum and who is town would be nice.

The rest of Krazy's posts are fluff. FoS.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #20) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:35 pm

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{the worst, Slaxx}
{Dunnstral, Ankamius}
{PvtUrist}
{Krazy}
{Firebringer, Adelbert Steiner}
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Post Post #294 (isolation #21) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:36 pm

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In post 290, Krazy wrote:No one is saying they disagree with the list, just that they don't understand where it comes from.

But so far that looks like the list to me.

Of course I know who adelbert is and he is likely town but doesn't make final 6.
False. I disagree with the list.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #22) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:40 pm

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In post 300, Firebringer wrote:
In post 293, Allomancer wrote:{the worst, Slaxx}
{Dunnstral, Ankamius}
{PvtUrist}
{Krazy}
{Firebringer, Adelbert Steiner}
Hey we can almost flip this for me:

{Adelbert, Ankamius}
{Slaxx}
{Null Line}
{Dunnstral}
{the worst}
Where do I go on this?
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Post Post #309 (isolation #23) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:41 pm

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In post 306, Slaxx wrote:
In post 299, Ankamius wrote:I'm kinda getting the impression that either everybody contentposting right now are town or that there's only one scum in that same list
Even Krazy?
I wouldn't call his posts "content"
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Post Post #316 (isolation #24) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:43 pm

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In post 302, Ankamius wrote:Does dying in past dance games really matter though considering that you could end up dead solely because your partner decides you don't get to live anymore
They probably do that for a reason.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:51 pm

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Wow rude.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:52 pm

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You are quite easily not only the scummiest in this thread, but the most ungentlemanlike as well. How you got the first dance date is beyond me.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #27) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:53 pm

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Ankamius, care to dance? (not bolding this because I don't wanna risk it yet)
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Post Post #557 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:45 am

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Currently on post 450
Cecilia town
Pink Ball scummy

Urist is still null, but he deserves to be left out of the dance because he is wholly unhelpful.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:05 am

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Alise seems scummy

I want to town read Nancy, and I know I should be town reading her, but something just... feels off. It's weird, so Nancy stays at null
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Post Post #600 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:13 am

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More useless posts from Pink Ball
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Post Post #629 (isolation #31) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:34 am

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I support a Pink Ball/Clem Lynch. They are both useless at best and scum at worst. There's not bad option here.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #32) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:36 am

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In post 630, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 627, Slaxx wrote:
In post 625, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 623, Slaxx wrote:
In post 620, Pink Ball wrote:
I request to dance with Clemency
You just going to pretend you didn’t read my posts or
What, what happened?
Exactly. Read the game, preferably the first four pages or so.

Clem you chained yourself to scum-Pink. Use protection.
I read the whole thread, bae. You mean not partering up this early? Me partnering with Clem right now is pro town.
True. It means we can lunch you both at once.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #33) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:55 am

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{the worst, Slaxx}
{Dunnstral, Ankamius, Celica}
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{Firebringer, Krazy}
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Post Post #669 (isolation #34) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:38 am

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I would prefer Slaxx - Nancy Drew and Krazy - Alisae. Put PvT with Dunnstral then.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #35) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:39 am

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Actually no. Scum would kill Slaxx/Nancy and we'd be out two powerful players. Towning Nancy now btw.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #36) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:42 am

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See here's the dilemma. We want to pack scum together so we can lynch two scum at the same time. But if we pack scum together, we also pack town together, which means scum can kill two town at the same town. Ideal system is scum/scum and town/null
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Post Post #677 (isolation #37) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:44 am

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Starting to null-read Krazy. Setup speccing is still NAI, but not as clear scum as before.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #38) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:50 am

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In post 682, Slaxx wrote:
In post 679, Ankamius wrote:
In post 673, Slaxx wrote:
In post 658, Krazy wrote:
In post 654, Slaxx wrote:bottom two I’m relatively confident in.
Why are you "relatively confident" in your read of me?
Up until your last post you had put more time into alt hunting than giving reads on people, were sticking to a list that had been made before players even got in the thread and using it to waive off actual scumhunting (“my list is still fine”), and downplayed putting in effort by using the average win rate of town in this setup. It all felt very half-hearted and purposefully dismissive when there were like seven different things going on in the thread you could have commented on to help us read you.

It doesn’t help you’re now pushing me because my reads are supposed to be more valuable, while you
1) Give me nothing of value to read you on besides active lurking and opaque play and
2) Provided very little of value yourself

You also have someone with basically no content at the top of your list which makes literally no sense. I don’t think you’re putting any effort into actually solving the game but plenty in to looking like you are
What is Krazys plan here as scum?
Coast into mid game while looking busy while hopefully setting up favorable pairs for the scumteam with an opaque list.

Do I believe that as much now that’s he’s actually solving? No, not as much.
I don't think the list is opaque at all. Early on it was, but now there is clear logic behind it and I agree with it for the most part.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #39) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:53 am

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I would cycle Adelbert, Pvt, and Krazy now
4: Krazy -- jibril
5: Pvt -- Dunnstral
6: Adelbert Steiner -- Alisae
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Post Post #695 (isolation #40) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:54 am

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Every time Ankamius posts she becomes a little less towny in my eyes recently. This will need further consideration.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #41) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:57 am

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In post 697, the worst wrote:
In post 695, Allomancer wrote:Every time Ankamius posts she becomes a little less towny in my eyes recently. This will need further consideration.
Talk to me about what's got you worried wrt Ank?
It seems like she's just posting to post without really caring about the game. While that in and of itself is NAI, it is a sharp contrast to the beginning of the game, which makes me think now that she is townread she isn't trying as hard, which is a scummy thing.
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Post Post #708 (isolation #42) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:59 am

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What strategy? I'm just posting gutreads here, like I have been all game.
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Post Post #726 (isolation #43) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:09 am

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In post 724, Krazy wrote:WIM = motivation
so why can't we just say that
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Post Post #728 (isolation #44) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:10 am

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In post 725, the worst wrote:It's an MU term
ew. you just dropped from obvtown to obvscum
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Post Post #732 (isolation #45) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:11 am

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c wrld
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Post Post #734 (isolation #46) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:13 am

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you know, the main form of motivation that would be relevant in a game of mafia.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 740, Firebringer wrote:the worst explain obv town allo, cause i see all of his posts and all i see is diarrhea posting with zero thought processes going on.

i feel like even my diarrhea has more thought in it.
Wow, almost exactly what I think of your posts! Also I'm actually on the toilet with diarrhea right now, so kinda funny coincidence.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #48) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:22 am

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In post 746, Firebringer wrote:
In post 744, Celica wrote:How about 4 chickens and a compliment?
Deal.

What you want to talk about? I would prefer we talk about the dream I had last night. I was racing one of those old N64 Mario carts. I think the level was the rainbow level. I was also naked which was weird because the graphics made it weirdly pixelated.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #49) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 749, Firebringer wrote:
In post 745, Allomancer wrote:
In post 740, Firebringer wrote:the worst explain obv town allo, cause i see all of his posts and all i see is diarrhea posting with zero thought processes going on.

i feel like even my diarrhea has more thought in it.
Wow, almost exactly what I think of your posts! Also I'm actually on the toilet with diarrhea right now, so kinda funny coincidence.
you realize if that is what you think of my posts you claiming me to be scum makes no fucking sense, right?
its like you post without even thinking of what it means what you say. Which is fine, I do that too a lot. Just that this is pretty much proof your reads have no substance to them.
I just find it odd how I've been pushing you as a scumread since the beginning, and now you are going against the consensus and scumreading me, without a very good reason at that. Seems like scum retaliating to me.
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In post 751, Firebringer wrote:
In post 748, the worst wrote:
In post 740, Firebringer wrote:the worst explain obv town allo, cause i see all of his posts and all i see is diarrhea posting with zero thought processes going on.

i feel like even my diarrhea has more thought in it.
reread his ISO pls
I don't want to reread it. It is worse than the mostly poorly written fan fic!

Make me read the worst fan fic actually. I WOULD RATHER DO THAT!
Don't punish me so with reading Allos posts.
And he resorts to insulting my writing as a way to avoid actually defending his reads.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:26 am

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In post 752, Celica wrote:(Allomancer Nancy Drew 39 Krazy)
(the worst Alisae Adelbert Steiner)
(Clemency Firebringer Ankamius)
(Reinhardt mcqueen PvtUrist Dunnstral Jibril-Null)
(Pink Ball Slaxx)

Can explain the first 2 and last line pretty easily. I also love how I was giving Allo crap for not explaining his reads when he made something like this and I'm doing the same thing.
Can you explain Slaxx? I've been townreading him pretty hard.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:29 am

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In post 758, Firebringer wrote:
In post 753, Allomancer wrote:
In post 749, Firebringer wrote:
In post 745, Allomancer wrote:
In post 740, Firebringer wrote:the worst explain obv town allo, cause i see all of his posts and all i see is diarrhea posting with zero thought processes going on.

i feel like even my diarrhea has more thought in it.
Wow, almost exactly what I think of your posts! Also I'm actually on the toilet with diarrhea right now, so kinda funny coincidence.
you realize if that is what you think of my posts you claiming me to be scum makes no fucking sense, right?
its like you post without even thinking of what it means what you say. Which is fine, I do that too a lot. Just that this is pretty much proof your reads have no substance to them.
I just find it odd how I've been pushing you as a scumread since the beginning, and now you are going against the consensus and scumreading me, without a very good reason at that. Seems like scum retaliating to me.
I am not scumreading you

Read the game and come up with a coherent thought.
That's exactly what I've been doing the whole time...
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Post Post #768 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:31 am

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In post 766, Firebringer wrote:
In post 763, the worst wrote:
In post 751, Firebringer wrote:
In post 748, the worst wrote:
In post 740, Firebringer wrote:the worst explain obv town allo, cause i see all of his posts and all i see is diarrhea posting with zero thought processes going on.

i feel like even my diarrhea has more thought in it.
reread his ISO pls
I don't want to reread it. It is worse than the mostly poorly written fan fic!

Make me read the worst fan fic actually. I WOULD RATHER DO THAT!
Don't punish me so with reading Allos posts.
you can co author my fic x

"I don't townread allo why do you townread allo I'm not reading allo's posts" is not a solid basis for a conversation

dude's heart is bleeding so much through his posts it's messing up my phonescreen
"Go read" is also not a solid basis for a conversation tbh either. But here we are.
Having a neat conversation :)

I see no heart bleeding, if it was bleeding i would suggest he go see a doctor. That could be serious.
Well if you don't read, how is any conversation supposed to have a basis? "Go read" is not a basis, but actually reading is.
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Post Post #773 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:34 am

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Post Post #781 (isolation #55) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:44 am

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The problem is you stated that you literally refuse to read. That's not good any way you put it
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Post Post #867 (isolation #56) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 792, Firebringer wrote:*deep breathe*

Okay allo, you are going to have to be patient with me cause I am going to be as patient as possible with you.
I don't understand you at all, and I am going to try to understand you better. That means I am going to mess up a lot, and I am annoyed at things that are difficult to understand especially when they won't work with me. So we shall try this.

You have me as your biggest scumread. Can we go through that...development...for lack of a better word to talk about what got you to that, what has reinforced/weaken that so that we all understand why I am scum?

Would appreciate it.

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Post Post #888 (isolation #57) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:16 am

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In post 870, Firebringer wrote:
In post 867, Allomancer wrote:Early on, I already was kinda sus of you and tw. Then later, the worst focused on solving the game, while you kept shitposting. You guys were some of my first reads, and nothing has changed that since. More to follow, got to go now.
Can you go into this more? I am highly skeptical of a lot of what you are saying here because I can find cases of both me and the worst shit posting and us both solving the game and for you to just say this is very one dimensional.
The difference is the the worst stopped shitposting. You just kept going.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #58) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:21 am

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In post 887, Reinhardt wrote:
In post 99, Adelbert Steiner wrote:I have not played this before, but I believe that we should probably come together and decide who is the scummiest gentleman first, that gentleman will be eliminated by not having a dance partner. After that, I am going to be learning whilst doing.

So far, my only read is Slaxx as a townlean.
I do not like how this post feels. It feels like a construct rather than a true belief. I am saying this feels fake.
To me, it feels like you are the gentleman mentioned.
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Post Post #909 (isolation #59) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 901, Slaxx wrote:Actually only one. Which was Lovers.

Then the other was a hydra in lynchpin with Auro/Volxen/Me
so lolwagons doesn't get any credit?
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Post Post #913 (isolation #60) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 794, Firebringer wrote:I am happy u are here too clemency. you are a fun dude to play with
In post 797, Firebringer wrote:we all know clemency is third party
In post 802, Firebringer wrote:celica, i am still owed a compliment.

@Clemency yes
In post 817, Firebringer wrote:
In post 814, Celica wrote:
In post 802, Firebringer wrote:celica, i am still owed a compliment.

@Clemency yes
Your posting has made me smile the most out of everyone in this playerlist.
thank you <3
In post 896, Firebringer wrote:Krazy is a stalker confirmed
You're just as bad.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #61) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:50 am

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That's dumb. IIRC, lolwagons was the one who did most of the work.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:59 am

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And my point is that the worst has a much higher ratio of content:shit than you. The worst also puts far more effort into her content posts than you.
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Post Post #924 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:03 pm

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In post 921, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 903, Reinhardt wrote: So I don’t seem to have been alone in suspecting Adelbert’s entrance. So it seems interesting people are singling me out in such a manner. Is it because I’m so proper?
What does this mean?
Translation: I wasn't the only one who though Adel's entrance was scummy, but everyone is giving me heat over it. That's weird.
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Post Post #925 (isolation #64) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:04 pm

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In post 922, Firebringer wrote:
In post 920, Allomancer wrote:And my point is that the worst has a much higher ratio of content:shit than you. The worst also puts far more effort into her content posts than you.
Okay content:shit ratio determines alignment and effort also means alignment.
If that is the basis of your read than okay.

Why do you think these two are relevant to either of us two when we are two different players?
Because with how high your post count is, I wouldn't expect ~50% of that to be shitposting. It's a waste of time, clogs up the thread, and benefits town none. How is it a towny thing to do then?
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Post Post #927 (isolation #65) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm

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When it becomes obnoxious enough that we have to argue about it.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #66) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:11 pm

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I'm sorry that I can't draw a line and say "50 shitposts is too many" or whatever. Its an innate feeling. And right you're far past that line, wherever it is.
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Post Post #931 (isolation #67) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:13 pm

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scummy
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Post Post #935 (isolation #68) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 932, Firebringer wrote:
In post 929, Allomancer wrote:I'm sorry that I can't draw a line and say "50 shitposts is too many" or whatever. Its an innate feeling. And right you're far past that line, wherever it is.
Your fine mate, i appreciate you answering all my questions no matter how inane they appear.

I am going to go for a different angle here.
Do you expect, someone like me, to go far past any lines you have of shit posting because I don't care how much you find it annoying. Nor would that reflect my alignment. Or do you think I do it only as scum to clog the thread up?
I think it's not necessary something I see as scum doing intentionally as something I see town intentionally not doing. Scum doesn't really benefit that much from clogging the thread, but they also don't care about the thread being clogged.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #69) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:18 pm

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Been a while since my last readlist.
{the worst, Slaxx}
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Post Post #938 (isolation #70) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:25 pm

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Well it puts you at null-scum. There are other things that push you into the scum category. For example, this whole argument. Town doesn't benefit from arguing a read on them as much as scum does. Maybe I would townread you if you had spent this time you did arguing about my own read on you scumhunting instead.
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Post Post #952 (isolation #71) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:46 pm

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Rn I wanna dance with either Celica or Ankamius
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Post Post #968 (isolation #72) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:54 pm

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I don't understand this at all so I'm just gonna ignore it unless I can get an unbiased tl;dr. was so biased as to be useless.
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Post Post #978 (isolation #73) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 974, Firebringer wrote:
In post 972, Ankamius wrote:Anyways fire, if you have to classify it by annoyance level, that works for me well enough

I want to solidify a read on you sooner rather than later
Why exactly? I am still planning to leave the dance....
No dont do that tw is town
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Post Post #982 (isolation #74) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:02 pm

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{Reinhardt}

Might need to make this 7 levels instead of 5 now.
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Post Post #984 (isolation #75) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:04 pm

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Much better
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #76) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:07 pm

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Jibril we are on page 42, you have 11 posts, and none of them have contributed to the game.
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #77) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 1010, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1009, Slaxx wrote:I can't wrap my mind around how you have a scumread on Krazy but thought the last couple pages were not useful.
ur argument was pointless and wasn't what is making me think krazy is scummy but i can help wrap ur head with a warm towel if you like
You need to learn that insulting people is not an effective argument.
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #78) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 1050, Jibril wrote:I think one of them did
Please, enlighten me
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:13 pm

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In post 0, FakeGod wrote:The game will include four phases, pre-dance, first dance, intermission, and second dance. Pre-dance will last 8 days, intermission will last 2 days, and each dance will at least 8 days.
Your lack of effort is seriously disheartening. Not only have you made no comments on the game itself, you couldn't even be bothered to check the OP?
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #80) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:15 pm

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Post Post #1061 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:19 pm

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Quoting a wallpost with a meaningless comment does not count as contributing btw
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #82) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:23 pm

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Good luck with that.
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #83) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:18 am

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Really not liking any of Urist's posts so far. Jesus, I have more scumreads than I do townreads. Might be a problem. People, start being town!
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #84) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:22 am

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You feel like you're trying to stall or something.
In post 1089, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 1087, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1081, the worst wrote: what do you wanna know?
I'm getting a weird impression that you're paying a lot closer attention than you're trying to let on, so I'm getting paranoid of you
:igmeou:
In post 1088, Krazy wrote:Weren't you going to explain your Alisae read Pvt?
If you wish, then I shall.
Why not just explaining it here rather than "If you wish" bullshit?
In post 1191, PvtUrist wrote:Pink Ball!Clemency pair was formed (both roleplayed/yet to seriously weigh in)

Celica was accused of wolfing or something

Slaxx and Dunn are town

redacted
are scum

otherwise nothing too much out of the ordinary (for the players, that is)
Why redact the scum?
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #85) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:31 am

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Post Post #1225 (isolation #86) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:43 am

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He's kinda just saying stuff that makes him look like he's contributing when he's not.
In post 887, Reinhardt wrote:
In post 99, Adelbert Steiner wrote:I have not played this before, but I believe that we should probably come together and decide who is the scummiest gentleman first, that gentleman will be eliminated by not having a dance partner. After that, I am going to be learning whilst doing.

So far, my only read is Slaxx as a townlean.
I do not like how this post feels. It feels like a construct rather than a true belief. I am saying this feels fake.
This comment by him just felt weird. Especially since we had considered making him the gentleman left out, it felt like he was trying to fight that without making it obvious.
In post 903, Reinhardt wrote:
In post 180, Dunnstral wrote:The gentlemen who pairs with the lady with 8 coins can hammer a wagon by themself as the last vote before intermission
In post 196, Ankamius wrote:I'm kind of surprised it took this long for an Adel scumread to start appearing, the entrance to the game in of itself was scummy
So I don’t seem to have been alone in suspecting Adelbert’s entrance. So it seems interesting people are singling me out in such a manner. Is it because I’m so proper?
More posting that doesn't really contribute. Defensive playing is scummier than actively scumhunting, which he barely does.
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #87) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:46 am

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In post 1226, Ankamius wrote:Reinhardt's catchup is how scum catch up, not town

he's just picking at random posts and looking busy without actually pushing forward the game
Basically what I was thinking but stated more eloquently, thank you.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #88) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:51 am

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In post 1233, Pink Ball wrote:better than me at this game
:lol: :lol: no way am i better than anyone else here at this game.
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #89) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:53 am

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celica is town and dunn might not be but other than that not bad
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #90) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:55 am

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I feel like me and Alisae wouldn't get along that well. Not anything game-related, I just feel like it would be a personality clash. I plan on pairing with Ank or Celica.
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #91) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:55 am

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In post 1241, Slaxx wrote:
In post 1217, Allomancer wrote:{Nancy Drew, the worst}
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Why is Krazy so high up?
Because he's trying to solve the game.
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #92) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:57 am

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You do realize this isn't about actual relationships right? I'm saying we wouldn't be able to work together that well.
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:00 am

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I feel like we wouldn't agree on much. Lovers get a PT, so I would prefer someone I think I could work with to solve the game. I still think you're town, I just don't think we would be very productive in our PT.
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #94) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:02 am

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The list made sense though! even though he didn't explain it, I could kinda see the logic behind it and why it would be good. I don't always explain my reads, that doesn't mean I'm not trying to solve the game.
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:04 am

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In post 1258, Alisae wrote:
In post 1255, Allomancer wrote:I feel like we wouldn't agree on much. Lovers get a PT, so I would prefer someone I think I could work with to solve the game. I still think you're town, I just don't think we would be very productive in our PT.
what gives you this feeling?
I dunno, gut feeling based on what you've said so far i guess.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #96) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:04 am

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Starting to reconsider my read on Pink Ball. Not so sure about a PB/Clem lynch anymore.
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:53 am

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Went back to five lines. If this were seven lines the moderate-town and far-scum lines would each only have one person, so no point in having that many lines.
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:00 am

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In post 1268, Slaxx wrote:
In post 1260, Allomancer wrote:The list made sense though! even though he didn't explain it, I could kinda see the logic behind it and why it would be good. I don't always explain my reads, that doesn't mean I'm not trying to solve the game.
It didn’t make sense at all. He had someone who hadn’t posted at the top, and although I get why he did that from the LIST perspective, it makes little sense from a scumhunting perspective. Like, everyone who posted is more scummy than the guy who hasn’t done anything? I mean do you know what any of his actual stances are on most of the stuff that’s happened? How often in his ISO has he actually engaged with players to determine alignment? Most of it has been retroactively rearranging the list based on what other people have been pushing. It’s a great way to keep your hands clean.
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Post Post #1362 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:06 am

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So to clarify, during the first dance, does each lady's vote count as one, regardless of her coin value?
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #100) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 am

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I see you as a very powerful town player. Ank I don't think is as powerful in her analysis as you.
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #101) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:13 am

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In post 1369, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1362, Allomancer wrote:So to clarify, during the first dance, does each lady's vote count as one, regardless of her coin value?
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Coins=votes in the first dance I think? So Ank has 8 of them, right?
It clearly says gentleman votes = coins. It doesn't say anything regarded lady's votes, which is why I asked.
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #102) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:14 am

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In post 1371, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1368, Allomancer wrote:I see you as a very powerful town player. Ank I don't think is as powerful in her analysis as you.
But doesn’t she get 8 votes?
Not necessarily sure that that's a good thing, however. If she pairs with a null-read to avoid getting killed, we run the risk of the person she is paired with being scum.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #103) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:22 am

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Yeah, I don't think claiming was a good idea, but I don't see how it helps scum. It's antitown but not scummy. IMO it only helps scum if town claims coins. So if Ank is scum, she didn't do anything productive, and if she is town, she hurt town, but she's not scum, just made a mistake.
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #104) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:49 am

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gn alisae
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #105) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 1404, mcqueen wrote:
In post 1316, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1314, Celica wrote:I think mcqueen should get a pair atm. I'd want adel or Rein left out of the dance, but I lean adel atm
I might be wrong on Rein, McQueen might be the third scum instead
you're right
She's right about Rein, or she's right that you're the third scum?
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #106) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:08 am

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But how are we supposed to know if you're scum? I think the point Celica was trying to make is that it's pointless guessing at your ali until we have more interactions (ie don't use process of elimination)
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #107) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:27 am

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if we don't pair the 7 and 8 coin lady then we end up with 12 people right off the bat and go straight to intermission
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #108) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 1437, Ankamius wrote:Revised point, it's a legitimate strategy to remove 2 gentlemen and me to remove that possibility from the game, is it not?
yes. the question then becomes do we want to risk losing you?
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #109) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:32 am

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In post 1437, Ankamius wrote:Revised point, it's a legitimate strategy to remove 2 gentlemen and me to remove that possibility from the game, is it not?
Also remember, you can leave the dance if your partner goes rogue and force them to die.
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #110) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:37 am

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to be honest Ank, giving you a towny partner and getting you both killed in intermission is probably better than just letting you and a gent die before the dance
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #111) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:38 am

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ya know what would suck? if the 7 coin lady is scum. she pairs with a scum gent and we get screwed.
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #112) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:39 am

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well if we let scum get the eight coin lady we probably lose so there's that
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #113) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:41 am

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blame vonflare. Also check out the link in my sig; i'm trying to get someone to use my old one so it doesn't get lost to the ages.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #114) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:42 am

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Post Post #1457 (isolation #115) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:43 am

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because i want to make sure everyone know what my reads are. That way if anyone wants to challenge them they can. There's no harm to posting reads.
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #116) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:46 am

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[quote="Page 20 reads]{the worst, Slaxx}
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{PvtUrist, Nancy Drew, Alisae}
{Adelbert Steiner, Pink Ball, Clemency}
{Firebringer, Krazy}[/quote]
They've changed.
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #117) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 1459, Allomancer wrote:
Page 20 reads wrote:{the worst, Slaxx}
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Post Post #1462 (isolation #118) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:48 am

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maybe that means you haven't actually been reading
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #119) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:58 am

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VOTE: Krazy
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #120) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:34 pm

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In post 1469, Ankamius wrote:But I think this setup was designed to allow more strategy into the old dance one
So what's the difference between this and a normal dance setup? Is it the coins?
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #121) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:27 pm

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noooo not the duckling
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Post Post #1497 (isolation #122) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:29 pm

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In post 1495, Ankamius wrote:Welp

Idk how motivated I am for this game anymore, but it's definitely less now
I refuse to lose you as well.
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #123) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:10 pm

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In post 1512, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1448, Allomancer wrote:ya know what would suck? if the 7 coin lady is scum. she pairs with a scum gent and we get screwed.
Two scum suiciding for 1 lynch isn't a viable strategy for scum...
Not necessarily being obvscum.
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #124) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:26 pm

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@Mod: Will we ever be told officially how many coins each lady has?
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #125) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:45 pm

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In post 1539, Alisae wrote:
@Allo can you ask me for a dance?

I kinda decided I would prefer you to be my partner over anyone else.
you know what, I think that'll work. Before I do though, is there anyone who strongly wants to dance with me? Not to be rude Alisae, but I want to make sure no strong town players are forced to compromise.
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Post Post #1571 (isolation #126) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:47 pm

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In post 1536, Jibril wrote:Mcqueen and Krazy slots look good now. Pink Clem tt pair maybe. That's all for now.
Who are your scumreads? If you think all of those are town, given we have a large number of widely accepted town players, who do you think scum are?
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #127) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:47 pm

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In post 1570, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1566, Allomancer wrote:
In post 1539, Alisae wrote:
@Allo can you ask me for a dance?

I kinda decided I would prefer you to be my partner over anyone else.
you know what, I think that'll work. Before I do though, is there anyone who strongly wants to dance with me? Not to be rude Alisae, but I want to make sure no strong town players are forced to compromise.
You might be the last person left that I'll accept as a partner; it's only mcqueen/Adelbert/PvtUrist/Reinhardt otherwise
Yeah, you were the one I was worried about. We don't want 8 coins in the wrong hand. How do you feel about mcqueen?
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #128) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:51 pm

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Oof. I didn't think he was that bad. On the other hand, I'm fairly confident Alisae is town here as well, and I don't want to leave her stuck with one of them either. Adelbert is V/LA until Monday, so that's a no-go. The other two are the worst (no pun intended) IMO.
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Post Post #1577 (isolation #129) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:52 pm

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Urist, you're one of my favorite people on site, but I hope you realize how scummy you look here and acknowledge that's why everyone hates you.
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #130) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:10 pm

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Okay, one last question for Alisae and Ank, how did you guys feel about the Krazy slot? Would either of you be willing to pair with his replacement when they come?
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #131) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:14 pm

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Well what were your reads on Krazy? Alignment doesn't change with replacement, so we're going off the best info we have atm, which is Krazy's behavior.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #132) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 1587, Alisae wrote:Yeah you should pair with Ank
Why so?
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #133) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 1589, Alisae wrote:
In post 1588, Allomancer wrote:
In post 1587, Alisae wrote:Yeah you should pair with Ank
Why so?
I can take someone in a PT with a chair, a rope, and interrogate
Ank is probably someone who needs someone to sync and be on the same page as them.
I understand that; I'm kinda the same way, hence why I was wary about pairing up with you so long ago.

Since Alisae is okay with it,
Ankamius, may I have this dance?
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #134) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 1594, Ankamius wrote:
Accept Allomancer's hand with my own

In post 1590, Alisae wrote:Also Ank has trust issues.
this is a pretty apt statement about my mafia play tbh
I mean, who wouldn't have trust issues if they found out a few of their friends were plotting to kill them?
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Post Post #1602 (isolation #135) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:31 pm

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celica's not scum though.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #136) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:53 pm

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Maybe it does make sense for Alisae to interrogate her lover; give her someone who's a null read and let her figure it out. I feel like maybe she could crack Urist.

p-edit: jesus christ urist. maybe there's no cracking to be done.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #137) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:02 pm

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In post 1609, PvtUrist wrote:Read on scum!Anka, her posts can be explained as "appear town while pushing scum agenda" throughout the entire game.

Anka's 8 coin claim at the beginning of the game. By itself a null-read, I do not understand why she would continue to repeat this exact message another 9 times within the thread.

Basically the posts are;

1)constant repeat of "I have 8 coins", and
2)"I'm town"
How would this help scum? I feel like it has helped us if anything because it made us more wary of who to match with her.
Anka calls for PB!Clem lynch for their null/passive/
not at all useful
playstyle. Did everyone just miss or ignore this?
Spoiler: 607
In post 607, Ankamius wrote:Can we pair clemency and pink ball up and then instalynch them if this is what the rest of the game will be like
What's bad about this?
TW asks Anka if there's anything she'd like to know, of which she replys with a shade and completely avoids the interaction.
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In post 1087, Ankamius wrote:
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In post 1075, Ankamius wrote:anyways

duckling

where is your head at
mostly at work atm
I'm not super invested rn, here in body more than in spirit

what do you wanna know?
I'm getting a weird impression that you're paying a lot closer attention than you're trying to let on, so I'm getting paranoid of you
Ank never indicated she wanted to know anything in the first place. She was asking where tw's head was at, and her reply elaborated on the meaning of that question.
Jump on Celica off of Alisae's post. Realise that Anka is asking for others' reads opinions and gives none of her own
again
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Not a bad point.
Can't reset your reads if you haven't posted any ;)
You can still have personal reads can you not? And even her retroactive reads were still reads.
Posts scum read on Krazy now that just about everyone else does, also managing to shade Celica and Mcqueen (wtf) in the process. I won't even go into the bs that is the logics in reasoning in this one.
Can't address this because her original post confused me.
Here's my interpretation of your current reads. Do point out any misinterpretations and please do explain them.

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{Krazy, Celica, mcqueen}
Where'd half the playerbase go? She's expressed reads on more than that.
tl;dr
- Constant repeat of "look at me I've got 8 coins" posts, I'd like to know how town benefits from them.
I'd like to know how scum. benefits from them
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Post Post #1623 (isolation #138) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:04 pm

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In post 1622, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 1619, Allomancer wrote: How would this help scum? I feel like it has helped us if anything because it made us more wary of who to match with her.
You answered yourself.
do elaborate
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #139) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:08 pm

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It doesn't matter if the 8-coin lady is town or scum. You want a town with her so town gets the 8 votes. Even if she were a null-scum read we would want a strong town with her to use the votes.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #140) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:41 am

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In post 1722, Ankamius wrote:close enough
no
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #141) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:42 am

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In post 1741, Celica wrote:Mc/Nancy would be a town pair
Allo/Ank is most likely a town pair and I'm just tunneling Ank and wrong.
Ali should go with Pvt
Leave me rein Adel out of the dance so we can't be mislynched/incase one of the other 2 is scum.
You could dance with Krazy replacement
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #142) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:42 am

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In post 1752, Alisae wrote:Celica I really don't think you should be unpaired because ur probably town and I don't think you realize how few people actually scumread you
Good job
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #143) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:11 am

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Made it to 1800, really not liking celica anymore
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #144) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:18 am

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In post 1907, Ankamius wrote:urist's case on me was pretty town though
I debunked it tho.
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Post Post #1991 (isolation #145) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:21 am

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In post 1916, Ankamius wrote:I'd still rather Nancy dance with Urist

it's probably the best shot we have at getting him out of his tunnel on me
no dont do that. give mcqueen to nancy
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #146) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 1992, Ankamius wrote:
Strong Town

PvtUrist
Slaxx

Moderate Town

Alisae
Allomancer
Nancy Drew 39
Pink Ball

Light Town

Dunnstral
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the worst

Null

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mcqueen

Strong Scum

Fakegod
no way is urist that far up. I understand if you're townreading him at least (im not) but in no way is he obvtown.
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #147) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:30 am

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In post 1996, Pink Ball wrote:Now that being said and that you know I'm town (again, don't try to push me, it's losing time 'cause I'm dying tomorrow), y'all follow Allomancer to death. Him being doubtful about pairing with Alisae is the towniest thing you will see in this thread. Alisae is a survivalistic kind of player, almost impossible to lynch because of her personality. Scum would LOVE to be paired to a player like that; being worried about how the chemistry between them would go instead of agreeing with me is town thinking about solving the game instead of scum thinking in surviving. So Allomancer will be my representative as conftown. You doubt anything he says, you eat rope
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #148) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:32 am

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Also can we all take a moment to appreciate that i got post
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Post Post #2006 (isolation #149) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 2002, Slaxx wrote:I remember when I first pushed Clem for shitposting

I was younger, more naive

I think it was around Thanksgiving
clem's doing more than just shitposting. he's not even remotely trying to play the game. If it weren't for PB he would deserve to die instantly.
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #150) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 2008, Slaxx wrote:Oh... actually he might be S this game but I can’t say why. Dumb rules.

They’re actually good rules. But. Whatever.
me?
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #151) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:44 am

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suddenly the game transforms into the mod is mafia
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #152) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 2022, Slaxx wrote:
In post 2020, Allomancer wrote:suddenly the game transforms into the mod is mafia
We are all over here with 1-8 coins

And the mods the motherfucking bank
can we deposit coins during the first dance to get interest for the second dance?
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #153) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:49 am

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why does fb have more posts than me in this thread? this has to change
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #154) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 2047, Firebringer wrote:I am the towniest of the scum
Di.. did... did you just scumclaim?
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #155) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:59 pm

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In post 2057, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2050, Allomancer wrote:
In post 2047, Firebringer wrote:I am the towniest of the scum
Di.. did... did you just scumclaim?
damn u caught me
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
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Post Post #2168 (isolation #156) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:56 am

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In post 2164, Pink Ball wrote:@Alisae I'm basically an IC right now. Stop goofing. What are your reads
I thought I was the IC?
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #157) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:50 am

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unless a scum lady has a large amount of coins. Then it might be worth the risk to make sure scum gets the extra votes.
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #158) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:50 am

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sorry didn't see mcqueen literally posted that 2 posts up
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #159) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 2198, Alisae wrote:you are starting to become useless @jibril
starting?
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #160) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 2201, Jibril wrote:
Replace please
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Post Post #2212 (isolation #161) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 2206, Slaxx wrote:
In post 2205, Alisae wrote:
In post 2204, Pink Ball wrote:For fucks sake think in the mod before joining a game you wont play you fucking assholes
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