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Regardless of whether an Encryptor is present, any private threads begin the game open during the day.

coordination among scum is possible.

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creature did you hint town pr?

[Creature]

can u all unvote. if scum has a roleblocker then its game over since joges can be rb'd even when weiss is scum.

Good thing we're lynching the roleblocker claim.

[Creature]

Alonzo's claim directly counterclaims Weiss and also it's so obviously fake it hurts.

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i kinda want a mass claim to figure out why there was only 1 nk.

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I don't think scum kills Flippy.

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i dont understand why would alonzo claim such a falsifyable role. Are you arguing that he's just a bad player? idt its that simple

[Weiss Schnee]

You think Alonzo is real TRB, he blocked Creature's NK n1, and then he was blocked by scum n2?

that requires Alonzo to have correctly chosen the killing scum N1... statistically I feel like that's pretty unlikely

but I guess it's also a question of why Alonzo claimed he rb'd me as scum when he didn't, when he was not being asked to claim

I was thinking maybe he thought I was VT and it was like a weird pocket attempt but it's a somewhat unusual play by scum tbh

but it still wouldn't explain why scum would RB him n2

[Creature]

i dont understand why would alonzo claim such a falsifyable role. Are you arguing that he's just a bad player? idt its that simple

If his intention was to out a power role, he did pretty well.

[Weiss Schnee]

that requires Alonzo to have correctly chosen the killing scum N1... statistically I feel like that's pretty unlikely

altho I guess vs scum killing same target as vig it's not less likely?

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out a power role if that power role is investigative and named creature/weiss
at the cost of his own lynch?
when there are already conf towns/prs out there?

seems like a stretch.

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You think Alonzo is real TRB, he blocked Creature's NK n1, and then he was blocked by scum n2?

that requires Alonzo to have correctly chosen the killing scum N1... statistically I feel like that's pretty unlikely

but I guess it's also a question of why Alonzo claimed he rb'd me as scum when he didn't, when he was not being asked to claim

I was thinking maybe he thought I was VT and it was like a weird pocket attempt but it's a somewhat unusual play by scum tbh

but it still wouldn't explain why scum would RB him n2

no i think you can be scum loooking for a 1 v 1 which is actually a 2 v 1.

[Weiss Schnee]

so scum have JK/rb, for {reasons} rb'd alonzo n2, and you think alonzo, as town rb, blocked creature's scum kill n1?

vis-a-vis you think Creature is the lynch today?

[Weiss Schnee]

no i think you can be scum loooking for a 1 v 1 which is actually a 2 v 1.

I guess I can see why you're paranoid but you're saying to me:

town power is 2 masons, every-night vig, every-night rolecop, every-night roleblocker
and scum have a {jailkeep/roleblocker} that hit alonzo and I guess {some investigative} to have targeted alonzo n1 to explain why he was blocked?

idk if that works but your theory requires a loooot of power

[Weiss Schnee]

out a power role if that power role is investigative and named creature/weiss
at the cost of his own lynch?
when there are already conf towns/prs out there?

seems like a stretch.

or he thought I was a VT and wanted to quasi-pocket me with a roleblock claim

why would he rb me when he said he thought I was likely town?

I'm not saying it totally makes sense but almost nothing about his play rn makes sense to me, and he seems uninterested in considering the likelihood he was rb'd so...

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no no no. the scum-rb scenario is just a way out hypothetical to not rush lynches.
I think what's possible is "alonzo, as town rb, blocked creature's scum kill n1", and blocked you n2. you saw an opportunity to cc as scum and get him lynched for a two for 1.

this might be a stretch but I want to evaluate whether this line of action is impossible before continuing on alonzo.

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why would he rb me when he said he thought I was likely town?

yeah I looked back and this is in fact true. Thus I need Alonzo to come in and explain why he picked these two targets.

[Creature]

out a power role if that power role is investigative and named creature/weiss
at the cost of his own lynch?
when there are already conf towns/prs out there?

seems like a stretch.

Would you kill a mason over a hidden cop?

[Creature]

Shit, gonna be hard.

[Weiss Schnee]

Weiss Schnee - Rolecop
or -- mason
joges -- vig

Alonzo -- roleblocker

ssbm_Kyouko
stan1ey
Creature
Jibril

okay or

so I guess my question is how massclaim helps us given that there is no way anyone claims a rb on Alonzo here

that being said if you want to finish massclaim then you should say who starts these last 4 popcorns

[Creature]

I know you have the TBTBS issues, but Occam's Razor says Alonzo just claimed something and got caught because of it. Simple.

[stan1ey]

I'll unvote if you want but we should definitely lynch alonzo today
UNVOTE: alonzo

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sorry can i think about this a bit more.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I don't think massclaim helps us - there's still the possibility of outing a doctor in that case, and we have clear options for lynches with weiss/alonzo. Joges can save mislynch from losing here with his vig shot, and if necessary we can massclaim tomorrow

[ssbm_Kyouko]

tbtbs = too bold to be scum?