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[BuJaber]

Respect is a two way street. Look in the mirror. Talk to yourself. Would you respect that person?

Roster can you post an opinion one time without waiting for support?

[BuJaber]

You entire ISO is a "DAE" meme.

[BuJaber]

Hol up why is Buj at L-1, I don’t recall a lot of people suspecting him?

Someone is pretty good at playing jester

What is this supposed to mean?

[rosterfoster]

Respect is a two way street. Look in the mirror. Talk to yourself. Would you respect that person?

Roster can you post an opinion one time without waiting for support?

I have? Or did you just miss the point where I voted for you without support?

Btw, I have complete respect for you. Don’t take me saying that something you did is scummy in the wrong way. We are just playing a game.

[BuJaber]

My respect comment was not targetted at you. For someone thinking I'm scummy you've been very polite.

My memory is that people already expressed interest in voting me before your case. Other than that posts like 574 come across like you waiting for someone else to give you the answer, and it wasn't your first post of this nature.

[rosterfoster]

I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear, but I am very strongly expressing an opinion there.

Well yeah everyone is under some suspision at some point, but it’s not like I just left it hanging there. I don’t see how you can draw that conclusion from my posts.

[BuJaber]

I wanted to show you some example but they're split up into too many posts.

Let me put it this way. You repeatedly post sentences like "BuJaber is scummy but there's not much support there" "oh you voted bujaber okay I can vote him now" "yay, I'm not crazy"

Even just on the previous page, you say you'll post a constructive post later, then as soon as persivul rallies people to vote me you post asking if 433 is scummy.

There is a pattern of seeking motivation from others to push in a certain direction that you claim you are strongly in favor of. But if it were something you strongly believed in you would not need this support.

[rosterfoster]

Let me put it this way. You repeatedly post sentences like "BuJaber is scummy but there's not much support there" "oh you voted bujaber okay I can vote him now" "yay, I'm not crazy"

The first two - we were near the deadline, and yes, I had to compromise. That was a good thing as it turned out, but I'm fairly sure we would have gotten a scum with you too. The third one - wouldn't you have doubts about your read if everybody else seemed to think differently? And then when they come out with the same/similar reasoning to you feel a little relieved?

Even just on the previous page, you say you'll post a constructive post later, then as soon as persivul rallies people to vote me you post asking if 433 is scummy.

I prodge, but say I'm still for you. I could easily have left that part out, which would be doing as you describe (you omitted this fact). I'm not asking if 433 is scummy, I'm

saying

it is. Big difference.

There is a pattern of seeking motivation from others to push in a certain direction that you claim you are strongly in favor of. But if it were something you strongly believed in you would not need this support.

I need support for a vote/wagon. I do not need support to point out what I believe to be scummy.

I think I have just shown that my behaviour has been fundamentally different to what you have described. My 'style' (as it exists anyway) is more about cooperation than confrontation, but this has not meant that I do not/have not stated my opinions. I really have.

[xwing]

Read Tchill ISO real quick and xwing is prolly town because I don't think Tchill's push there looks like a bus

can you ISO someone else, maybe buj or roster and tell us what you glean from those? i dont think expressing town!xwing is gonna help us much as i dont think im gonna be a wagon anytime soon, considering almost everyone TRs me (i think only HC and roster are really suspicious of me atm)..

i think the buj wagon having no resistance at all is a red flag, so i want more time to discuss..can someone please unvote?

...you do realize this

is

the resistance to the wagon...right?

This is such a stupid thing to say
I've considered this myself several times making the resistance argument several times and never once have I regarded it as a valid point. Up to the point of the statement there's minimal resistance. The statement itself I'd not included.

@flubbz: yeah what gamma said..BUT..
@gamma: what are your stands/reads on this game? between the bad prodge and making info posts like this which dont really do anything to scum hunt, it makes me feel you're scum trying to pocket me..i still dont get the townread on you, i think it's null at best, but im leaning scummy on you..

Can we talk about how 433 is so manufactured?

how so?

You entire ISO is a "DAE" meme.

what does DAE stand for? first time seeing this acronym..

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pedit: i dont think buj v roster is s/s now..
kinda disappointed we didnt hear anything from HC yet as i wanted to read a fresh take on this..kinda worried it might be TvT but i dont think this is likely eh?

[rosterfoster]

how so?

It's not real VCA. You remember FL catching Komodo in our previous game? That was analysing the reasons behind making the votes, what scum might do etc.

In Bujaber's post the first few lines are all fluff. Just saying what happened rather than why.

Spoiler: fluff

Pretty even spread. Mainly RVS votes and early impressions. At this stage people start looking for ways to converge and go for lynches that can be hammered.

Gamma takes the early lead first, as someone not engaged in the game.

Gamma lynch seemingly hits its peak. Now scum will have to try to lynch someone else if they can, or bus their teammate.

Slaxx hops off waiting for a claim. More votes pile on tchill.

They are attempting to look like VCA without being VCA.

Junko / rooster / egix are the scummiest votes.

Essentially: 'Scum are always later on the wagon'

Fair enough, but this is the only reasoning in a whole post which is supposed to be entirely about reasoning. Now if he had just made a post mentioning this point I would've quite liked that, as it shows honesty about what you can determine. But instead there was this whole 'reasoning' which wasn't really reasoning to try to give as much weight as possible behind the push on me. Except the 'VCA' is really just based on this one rule of thumb, and the fact that he townreads the other two possibilities.

[JunkoChan]

Hol up why is Buj at L-1, I don’t recall a lot of people suspecting him?

Someone is pretty good at playing jester

What is this supposed to mean?

Gamma's latests posts have all been useless echos from things already said like 7 Pages ago, playing like this on purpose is Jester act aka lynchable behaviour

[JunkoChan]

Nothing has changed for me, Lynch Buj for the chance of him being scum which is low imo but we can risk a ml or Lunch chickenburner

[Egix96]

Can we talk about how 433 is so manufactured?

Yep. Information Instead of Analysis, that's the term you're looking for.

@xwing: DAE = "Does anyone else...?"

[JunkoChan]

Actually I'll go with the own I think is more likely to be scum, Buj is probably not in the same team as roster

VOTE: Rosterfroster

[JunkoChan]

the one*

[Gamma Emerald]

From recent developments BuJ looks town.
I am forming reads in my own time. I probably won't get a full read set immediately but given time it'll shake out.

[rosterfoster]

Care to tell me why?

[Egix96]

Actually I'll go with the own I think is more likely to be scum, Buj is probably not in the same team as roster

VOTE: Rosterfroster

From recent developments BuJ looks town.

I'm not seeing it...

VOTE: BuJaber

[Persivul]

Really getting tired of Junk's flip-flops.

[JunkoChan]

Let's see then.

VOTE: Bujader

[JunkoChan]

Respect is a two way street. Look in the mirror. Talk to yourself. Would you respect that person?

Roster can you post an opinion one time without waiting for support?

Good night

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