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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:06 am

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Intent to hammer JJ - Varsoon was L-1 I think.

The case makes sense from MS & the fact he was the anti-wagon yesterday adds up given the town flip we got.
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:41 am

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In post 2992, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2976, Alchemist21 wrote:Prod received.
hi Alch, remind me where you're at right now? game is super inactive and if MS is power scum we're losing this one. if not i think we're still okay.
jjh feels like an inevitable lynch and that's what worries me about him being town. i know that scum could just not be putting their full effort in, of course, but when it's minimum effort in a gamestate like this to be active, it's a great time for the scum to make sure things are going their way.
it's also very likely we'll die tonight if scum doesn't shoot Varsoon so i'd to talk while i'm still here.
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My strongest scumread is still Mewtaph. ProFlavor and MS seem like likely partners but I’m not sure on them. If Mew’s a goon ProFlavor is most likely Town, and if JJ flips scum MS is more likely Town.

What really sticks out to me though is how MS started trying to play around Varsoon’s vig shot as soon as Varsoon said it had a limited range. It wouldn’t really surprise me if Mew/MS are both scum and ProFlavor is Town who’s in an awkward situation.
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:47 am

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In post 2163, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2146, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 1996, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1943, pinturicchio wrote:I'm at page 53. Mew's reaction to his wagon was great. How he approached Nancy is exactly how I'm feeling right now: she just defends her townreads by attacking whoever is scumreading them. Flavor's reaction to Mew's wagon is townie as hell too, but I already said this. I don't see any scum intention on how Pro unvoted unless both Mew and Flavor are scum ---> Mew is apparently town because of his reaction ---> both are town, which is much more likely than both being scum (thinking that I caught two out of three scum instead of two out of ten towns... My tinfoil hat is not ready for that)
No it wasn’t. Mew’s reaction was horrible and very unlike town!Mew.
Honestly the way Pintu speaks there just seems generally forced. Who calls a reaction great like that?
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Yeah, maybe you’re right. I also intensely dislike how he keeps discrediting everything I’m saying and falsely accusing me of “manipulation” and confibiasing Eraserhead. His hard defending of Mew, also makes 0 sense to me. It reeks of whiteknighting.
pinturicchio could be scum, actually. Was reading through D1 stuff and ISOs since this day and D2 are clearly hot garbage for generating any info.
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:50 am

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In post 3001, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2992, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2976, Alchemist21 wrote:Prod received.
hi Alch, remind me where you're at right now? game is super inactive and if MS is power scum we're losing this one. if not i think we're still okay.
jjh feels like an inevitable lynch and that's what worries me about him being town. i know that scum could just not be putting their full effort in, of course, but when it's minimum effort in a gamestate like this to be active, it's a great time for the scum to make sure things are going their way.
it's also very likely we'll die tonight if scum doesn't shoot Varsoon so i'd to talk while i'm still here.
~Chara
My strongest scumread is still Mewtaph. ProFlavor and MS seem like likely partners but I’m not sure on them. If Mew’s a goon ProFlavor is most likely Town, and if JJ flips scum MS is more likely Town.

What really sticks out to me though is how MS started trying to play around Varsoon’s vig shot as soon as Varsoon said it had a limited range. It wouldn’t really surprise me if Mew/MS are both scum and ProFlavor is Town who’s in an awkward situation.
I'm curious, what do you want my night action to be? Drag/no drag - move where, drag where?
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:58 am

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The biggest indicator that I'm wrong is that the people that died townread Alchemist. So I'm pretty sure my general perspective on the game state is wrong lol.

I don't feel that great about a jjh927 lynch because there's just no resistance. From day 1 this slot has been set up as a potential ML.
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:17 am

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In post 3003, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 3001, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2992, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2976, Alchemist21 wrote:Prod received.
hi Alch, remind me where you're at right now? game is super inactive and if MS is power scum we're losing this one. if not i think we're still okay.
jjh feels like an inevitable lynch and that's what worries me about him being town. i know that scum could just not be putting their full effort in, of course, but when it's minimum effort in a gamestate like this to be active, it's a great time for the scum to make sure things are going their way.
it's also very likely we'll die tonight if scum doesn't shoot Varsoon so i'd to talk while i'm still here.
~Chara
My strongest scumread is still Mewtaph. ProFlavor and MS seem like likely partners but I’m not sure on them. If Mew’s a goon ProFlavor is most likely Town, and if JJ flips scum MS is more likely Town.

What really sticks out to me though is how MS started trying to play around Varsoon’s vig shot as soon as Varsoon said it had a limited range. It wouldn’t really surprise me if Mew/MS are both scum and ProFlavor is Town who’s in an awkward situation.
I'm curious, what do you want my night action to be? Drag/no drag - move where, drag where?
I’m not one for telling other people how to use their roles. Even if your role is Town I’m not sure what the best use of it would be. My thinking would be to put someone within Varsoon’s killing range but he might not even shoot and it puts him at higher risk for getting killed. MS could have the right idea in putting someone on the other side of AlmostChara but that plan hinges on all scum being on the same side.
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:19 am

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In post 3001, Alchemist21 wrote:If Mew’s a goon ProFlavor is most likely Town,
Evidence for this? ProFlavor mostly maintained Mewtaph at town, or "Lynch if FL wants to", and Mewtaph never once interacted with or referenced ProFlavor.
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:22 am

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In post 3002, Mewtaph wrote:pinturicchio could be scum, actually. Was reading through D1 stuff and ISOs since this day and D2 are clearly hot garbage for generating any info.
Mew, have a skim of Pintu's previous towngames - see if you'd make the same conclusion reading his ISOs there.
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:24 am

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In post 3006, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 3001, Alchemist21 wrote:If Mew’s a goon ProFlavor is most likely Town,
Evidence for this? ProFlavor mostly maintained Mewtaph at town, or "Lynch if FL wants to", and Mewtaph never once interacted with or referenced ProFlavor.
Um, not discarding what you're saying completely but I just checked my ISO and I quoted ProFlavor in my second post.
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:25 am

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In post 3007, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 3002, Mewtaph wrote:pinturicchio could be scum, actually. Was reading through D1 stuff and ISOs since this day and D2 are clearly hot garbage for generating any info.
Mew, have a skim of Pintu's previous towngames - see if you'd make the same conclusion reading his ISOs there.
Hmm ok.
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:30 am

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In post 3004, Mewtaph wrote:The biggest indicator that I'm wrong is that the people that died townread Alchemist.
They were prolly killed for scumreads. I maintain that one of you, Alch must very likely be scum, because otherwise ALL claimed air units are town.

This means one scum is fakeclaiming a ground role, or that one of you guys is scum.
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:34 am

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In post 3010, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 3004, Mewtaph wrote:The biggest indicator that I'm wrong is that the people that died townread Alchemist.
They were prolly killed for scumreads. I maintain that one of you, Alch must very likely be scum, because otherwise ALL claimed air units are town.

This means one scum is fakeclaiming a ground role, or that one of you guys is scum.
Fair enough.
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:38 am

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In post 3007, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 3002, Mewtaph wrote:pinturicchio could be scum, actually. Was reading through D1 stuff and ISOs since this day and D2 are clearly hot garbage for generating any info.
Mew, have a skim of Pintu's previous towngames - see if you'd make the same conclusion reading his ISOs there.
Yeah, pintu is town.
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:45 am

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So what's your final solve?
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:46 am

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I've feel resigned, sorry.
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:48 am

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Varsoon, I like you and all BUT if you really feel resigned and don't feel like playing the game, you should consider the prospect of having someone replace into your slot...
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:48 am

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In post 3013, Michael Scott wrote:So what's your final solve?
{Almost Chara, Alchemist21, ProFlavor, jjh927}
Should be three of these.
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 3015, Michael Scott wrote:Varsoon, I like you and all BUT if you really feel resigned and don't feel like playing the game, you should consider the prospect of having someone replace into your slot...
I feel like playing the game but I also feel like if I commit to anything, it'll be wrong, and I'll be a jackass for it.
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:53 am

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So I'm just gonna sheep you for now, whatever.
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:54 am

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I am pretty sure JJH is scum though.
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:54 am

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So just lynch that.
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:54 am

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And If I am wrong, well, ay, nothing new.
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:03 am

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VOTE: Proflavor
i'm okay with lynching jjh, however.

Michael: do you also have scum meta on pintu you're using to make that judgement?
my townread on MS is kind of gone, and i feel bad about that because of all of the effort town!MS would be putting in here.

i can't tell if i've got major paranoia right now or not, because Mew and MS's interactions on this page look like SvS and i'm agreeing with Alchemist.
it's a bad sign that i lack townreads because it means my read strength is way down.
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:04 am

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If you're okay voting JJH then vote JJH.
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:06 am

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i'm also okay voting Mewtaph, should i do that as well?
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