Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[FakeGod]

Merchant's Daughter

PLAYERLIST

• Gentlemen
  1. PvtUrist, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  2. Krazy, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  3. RadiantCowbells, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     intermission
     .
     
  4. Moment, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  5. Allomancer, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     pre-dance
     .
     
  6. Dannflor, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has been
     endgamed
     .
     
  7. DoubtingThomas, who was
     Mafia

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  8. Dr Worm, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  9. Vedith, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
  
  
• Ladies
  1. Ankamius, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     intermission
     .
     
  2. Firebringer, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  3. Something_Smart
     Alisae
     , who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  4. Nancy Drew 39, who was
     Mafia

     Lady
     ,
     survives
     to
     endgame
     .
     
  5. TheBrie, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  6. Gamma Emerald, who was
     Mafia

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  7. Pink Ball, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
     
  8. Taly, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     Second Dance
     .
  
  
• Pairs
  1. Vedith - Firebringer
     
  2. RadiantCowbells - Ankamius
     
  3. Dr Worm - Pink Ball
     
  4. Krazy - Taly
     
  5. Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39
     
  6. Moment - TheBrie
     
  7. DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart
     
  8. PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald

Vote Counts and other events

1.0

2.0 | 2.1 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.8 | 2.9 | 2.10 | 2.11 | 2.12 | 2.13 | 2.14 | 2.15

Endgame

Spoiler: Setup

Setup

• 3 Mafia Gentlemen/Ladies
  vs
  14 Town Gentlemen/Ladies, Open setup
  
• The game will include four phases,
  pre-dance
  ,
  first dance
  ,
  intermission
  , and
  second dance
  .
  Pre-dance
  will last 8 days,
  intermission
  will last 2 days, and each
  dance
  will at least 8 days.
  
• Each Lady starts with anywhere between
  1 to 8

  gold coins
  . Each Lady has a different number of gold coins, unless we have 9 ladies, in which case two ladies will have 1 gold coin.
  
• During the
  pre-dance
  , a
  GENTLEMAN
  can ask a
  LADY
  to the dance in thread. Each
  LADY
  can accept only one dance proposal.
  
• At the end of the
  pre-dance
  , any player who doesn't have a dance partner will be asked to leave the dance. (death)
  
• Each dance pair will then become Lovers, and they will be given a private topic to discuss the game.
  
• During the
  dances
  , normal nightless lynch mechanics will take over. A lynch will NOT reset the deadline. If the Mafia makes up 50% or more of the remaining players at any point, Mafia immediately wins. If all of the Mafia are lynched, then Town wins. If the game runs out of time and at least one Mafia is still alive, then Mafia wins.
  
• During
  First dance
  , Each
  GENTLEMEN's
  vote
  will count as equal to the number of

  gold coins

  his partner possesses
  . During
  Second Dance
  , every player's vote
  will count as one.
  
  
• First dance
  will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached. During the
  intermission
  , Mafia may secretly force one of the dance pairs to leave. Mafia also picks another player,
  whose alignment will be made public at the beginning
  of the
  Second dance
  .
  Second dance
  will then begin, and continue until the game's end.
  
• Also, at any point during the
  dance
  , a player may voluntarily leave (he/she dies and his/her alignment flips), which forces his/her partner to leave as well.

Spoiler: Ruleset

FakeGod's Mafia RuleSet

• ONE: FUNDAMENTALS
  • All site-wide rules apply. Read and respect them.
    
  • There is no personal communication outside the forum postings (regarding this game) unless your role specifically allows it.
    
  • Do not quote your Role PM or any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, co-moderator, backup-moderator, or fellow players. Paraphrasing your Role PM is acceptable.
    
  • Be courteous and respectful to all your fellow players and the moderating team.
    
  • Play to your Win Condition.
• TWO: DANCE PHASE
  • Votes must be
    bolded
    or they shall not be counted. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble.
    
  • Unvoting is not required, but is much appreciated by the mods. If you control more than one vote, Unvoting will unvote all of your votes, unless you specify which vote you unvote.
    
  • Once you have reached a simple majority (half of all living players plus one) that person will be lynched.
• THREE: INTERMISSION PHASE
  • Any role or faction with night abilities may choose to use them by PM-ing the mod with their choice.
    
  • If no action is received, no action will be taken. All actions received after the deadline has passed will not be valid.
• FOUR: CAPITAL OFFENSES
  • Do not quote your Role PM or any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, co-moderator, or backup-moderator. Paraphrasing your Role PM is acceptable.
    
  • There is to be no personal communication outside the forum postings (regarding this game) unless your role specifically allows it.
    
  • The following is a list of outlawed shenanigans:
    • Using invisible text, codes, cryptography, etc.
      
    • Editing your posts (if you have the power to do so)
      
    • Insulting other players
      
    • Quoting any PTs you may have access to
  • If any of these offenses are committed, I have the right to force-replace you from the game or modkill you.
• FIVE: MISCELLANEOUS
  • Feel free to address me in-thread, but if there is a large egregious mistake please PM me. Small matters like errors in the votecount can be posted in-thread.
    
  • I have the final say on any issue. I reserve the right to force-replace and modkill at my will.
    
  • This is a game. Have fun, and keep the game fun for other people. Stay civilized, please.
    
  • I have the right to edit this RuleSet at any time.

[/list]

Spoiler: Role PMs

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Lady FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-nineth annual sultan's dance You have X gold coins You are aligned with Town ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Gentleman FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-nineth annual sultan's dance You are aligned with Town ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Lady FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-nineth annual sultan's dance You have X gold coins. You are aligned with Mafia ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Gentleman FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-nineth annual sultan's dance You are aligned with Mafia ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

[FakeGod]

Pre-Dance

[FakeGod]

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

Yes.

[FakeGod]

@Fakegod, I want you to confirm this.

Yes.

[FakeGod]

@Fakegod probably a dumb question but can we talk about the first run of this game?

Sure.

[FakeGod]

I PM'd this to everyone, but I'll post it here for completion.

@Fakegod probably a dumb question but can we talk about the first run of this game?

Sure.

Apologies, I was on mobile and in a middle of something.

You can talk about the last game in general terms if you need to make a specific point or something, but I'd prefer if you guys stay away from bringing up that game if you can.

Thank you.

[FakeGod]

I've talked to Nancy Drew 39 and she is not replacing out.

Continue.

[FakeGod]

@Mod, are Lover PTs created immediately upon accepting a dance? Or at the end of Pre-Dance?

End of pre dance

[FakeGod]

@Mod Replace me, rl circumstances say no I can't play mafia

Looking for replacements.

[FakeGod]

Something_Smart replaces Alisae.

[FakeGod]

I don’t recall Worm doing that and FG still counted it anyway.

PINKBELLS will YOU dance with dr worm??

[FakeGod]

@Mod, exactly how much time is left in this phase?

about 42 hours left

[FakeGod]

Well if I can...

Moment, I would be honoured to dance with you.


@Mod, is a gentleman ask one lady, then a second lady, can the first lady still accept? The offer wasn't withdrawn in this situation.

Yes.

[FakeGod]

@mod how much time do we have left and is an extension possible?

14 hour ish and no

[FakeGod]

Allomancer, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

pre-dance

.

[FakeGod]

First Dance

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.0

Vedith - Firebringer [0] -
RadiantCowbells - Ankamius [0] -
Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [16]

- Vedith, Firebringer, RadiantCowbells, Ankamius, Dr Worm, Pink Ball, Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, DoubtingThomas, Something_Smart, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-22 02:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.1

Vedith - Firebringer [0] -
RadiantCowbells - Ankamius [0] -
Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

No Lynch [13] - Dannflor x2, RadiantCowbells x4, Krazy x7 [LYNCH]

Not Voting [13]

- Vedith, Firebringer, Ankamius, Dr Worm, Pink Ball, Taly, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, DoubtingThomas, Something_Smart, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-22 02:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Intermission

[FakeGod]

RadiantCowbells, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

intermission

.

Ankamius, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

intermission

.

[FakeGod]

Second Dance

[FakeGod]

PvtUrist is aligned with

Town

.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.0

Vedith - Firebringer [0] -
Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [14]

- Vedith, Firebringer, Dr Worm, Pink Ball, Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, DoubtingThomas, Something_Smart, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Leave the dance

Vedith, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

Firebringer, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.1

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [12]

- Dr Worm, Pink Ball, Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, DoubtingThomas, Something_Smart, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.2

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [1] - Gamma Emerald
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [1] - Krazy
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [10]

- Dr Worm, Pink Ball, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, DoubtingThomas, Something_Smart, PvtUrist

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.3

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [2] - Gamma Emerald, Dr Worm
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [2] - Krazy, Dannflor
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [8]

- Pink Ball, Taly, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, DoubtingThomas, Something_Smart, PvtUrist

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.4

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [4] - Gamma Emerald, Dr Worm, Pink Ball, DoubtingThomas
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [3] - Krazy, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [5]

- Taly, Moment, TheBrie, Something_Smart, PvtUrist

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.5

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [3] - Dr Worm, Pink Ball, DoubtingThomas
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [5] - Krazy, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Taly, Gamma Emerald
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [4]

- Moment, TheBrie, Something_Smart, PvtUrist

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.6

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [2] - Pink Ball, DoubtingThomas

DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart [7] - Krazy, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Taly, Gamma Emerald, TheBrie, Dr Worm [LYNCH]

PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [3]

- Moment, Something_Smart, PvtUrist

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

DoubtingThomas, who was

Mafia

Gentleman

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

Something_Smart, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.7

Dr Worm - Pink Ball [0] -
Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [10]

- Dr Worm, Pink Ball, Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Will open when I get back from gym shortly

[FakeGod]

Leave the dance

Dr Worm, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

Pink Ball, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.8

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [0] -

Not Voting [8]

- Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.9

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [2] - Taly, Dannflor

Not Voting [6]

- Krazy, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.10

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [4] - Taly, Dannflor, TheBrie, Nancy Drew 39

Not Voting [4]

- Krazy, Moment, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.11

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -

PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [5] - Taly, Dannflor, TheBrie, Nancy Drew 39, Krazy [LYNCH]

Not Voting [3]

- Moment, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

PvtUrist, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

Gamma Emerald, who was

Mafia

Lady

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.12

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -

Not Voting [6]

- Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie

With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.13

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -

Moment - TheBrie [4] - Krazy, Dannflor, Taly, Nancy Drew 39 [LYNCH]

Not Voting [2]

- Moment, TheBrie

With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Moment, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

TheBrie, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.14

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -

Not Voting [4]

- Krazy, Taly, Dannflor, Nancy Drew 39

With 4 alive it takes 3 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.15

Krazy - Taly [3] - Dannflor, Krazy, Nancy Drew 39 [LYNCH]

Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -

Not Voting [1]

- Taly

With 4 alive it takes 3 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Krazy, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

Taly, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

Second Dance

.

Mafia

Win Condition has been met. Endgame incoming.

[FakeGod]

Wherever my story takes me, however dark and difficult the theme,

there is always some hope and redemption, not because readers like happy endings, but because I am an optimist at heart.

I know the sun will rise in the morning, that there is a light at the end of every tunnel.

-by Michael Morpurgo

DoubtingThomas, Gamma Emerald, and, Nancy Drew 39, aligned with Mafia, wins the game!

[FakeGod]

PT links will go here.

Dead PT

Moment - Brie
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart
Dr Worm - Pink Ball
Vedith - Firebringer
RadiantCowbells - Ankamius
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39

Scum team, please let me know if you want scum PT released.

[FakeGod]

Before I congratulate the scum team, I have one question for Nancy.

to replace out of a game for town cred is not something I believe Nancy would ever do.

Nancy, is this true? Did you threaten to replace out for town cred? I want an explanation from you.

[FakeGod]

So do we get the spoiler for the 'first run' now too?

Adelbert Steiner & the worst & Nancy Drew 39

[FakeGod]

Is there ever going to be an explanation for the reason of the cancellation of the first run?

There were suspicions of someone replacing out and attempt to replace back in under a different account, and someone playing under two different accounts.

Kison reported negative after investigation, thank goodness.

[FakeGod]

People, please stay civilized and don't make me lock the thread.

Nancy, this is a very serious matter since your attempted replace out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, affected at least Dannflor's decision to read you as town in LyLo. (

and thus could have decided the game!

)

I (or anyone else) can't prove that your replace out was strategic or not, but your action

did

compromise your slot, since at least one player in the game decided to read you as town for that action.

I hope you understand what you have done, Nancy. Replace outs are

not

part of the game. Whether you meant to or not, the moment you made that post, the game was

compromised

, since even if I replaced your slot, other people's read on the slot will still be affected by your replace out.

[FakeGod]

Nancy, if you are being sincere, then I want an apology and a promise.

Apology, because I don't know what happened with MBoS, but if your mentality was that much shaken, then you shouldn't have signed up for another game until you recovered. Signing up for a game and then leaving is an insult to the mod. Have you considered my feelings when you decided to leave the game less than 24 hours after we started?

Promise, because no mod, myself included, wants a player who will compromise a slot like that under pressure. I believe Firebringer played a

fair and honest game of mafia

during the time leading up to your replace out. You yourself couldn't point to the posts he made prior to your replace out that offended you. I need to know that you won't do that again the next time you come under pressure.

[FakeGod]

Thank you.

[FakeGod]

Krazy, I had a question to ask you.

You proposed a scum strategy of two scum gentlemen blitzing the day 1. This strategy would leave 3 pairs remaining, one of which contains scum. (Scum expected win rate of 1/3)

RC and co. said in the dead pt that as long as the remaining scum pair is the highest townread pair remaining, scum is advantageous in the resulting 6p, but I'm not so sure. 1/3 EV is rather

monstrous

odds to overcome, and I don't think there is an easy, non-blatant way, to just leave the scum pair alive with two dumb town pairs. I simply don't think that it is a pro-scum move to blitz the first dance when it leaves a 1/3 EV setup with very little control over which of the scum pair gets to remain behind.

[FakeGod]

Krazy, why would scum intentionally use suboptimal strategy? Saying that scum can "abuse" this is like saying that they can partially game throw anytime they want. Yes... they can massively reduce their win chance any time they want. Why is this a problem?

Your strategy gets the top town pair killed without being able to contribute day 1. That makes the game totally unenjoyable for the pair that got killed, no? Are you okay with this because it's only 1 pair instead of 4 pairs? Because that's not a fair assessment when you can just play the day 1 out.

Scum don't get to pick which two of their players are gentlemen, so they don't get to pick which players they are sacrificing.

[FakeGod]

question about set up:

As we've seen in Dance 1 this game, dance 1 essentially can become a useless stage because people might just vote no lynch

Is this somethnig you intended? I don't ever see a world scum would yololynch using 8 coins ever so why even have coins or dance 1?

"Skip dance 1" strategy has been mentioned repeatedly in the past. I know Kagami mentioned it after losing New Year's Ball. It's a viable strategy, I suppose, although I do think playing the setup normally is better.

I gave scum a bit more flexibility by pushing the IC back to dance 2. Controlling who had the IC instead of having to burn the NK gave scum a lot more finesse in the setup.

Scum can't solo lynch even with 8 coins, since the cutoff is 9 to lynch. I don't really think the scum strategy of yolo hammering town in dance 1 is a good strategy but some people obviously disagree. Coins give incentive to people to pair up well in pre-dance, since having lots of coins obviously give a lot of advantage in dance 1.

[FakeGod]

I also don't think Vedith played badly pre-dance. Certainly not to the level of being needed to be marginalized using a "skip day 1" strategy.

Sadly, a basic level of trust was missing from the overall town in pre-dance.

[FakeGod]

Good game all,

I feel like I definitely owe all of you guys more participation because I am usually a high poster. I don't believe I posted 331 times, but nonetheless, I don't think I am ever below #3 in post ranking in any game as either alignment when I try.

Kinda funny Krazy caught me in a meta that's not really true (I played really differently in the game I played against brassherald than I normally would for some reason), but still great job catching me Krazy, I rarely RARELY get lynched ever, especially as scum who would have teammates to help me out.

Everyone, imo, played really well. I know we dropped the topic, but I just want to reiterate

Nancy

You played very well and you carried us to end game, no doubt. But it's just not ethical to even mention the word "sub" because it would influence people's reading of the game in ways that it shouldn't. You've done this before and got banned, and I really hope you stop even mentioning. I know as town it's very very frustrating to be 'wrongly' scum read, but it is part of the game, and I think it brings you different challenges that changes the game up to be more fun in a way. It's just giving you an advantage that shouldn't be part of the game when you mention it, so it is good habit to just erase that word out of your vocabulary when you are playing forum mafia, imo. I don't think this should discredit the way you played very well this game and won it for us, but I want to see you grow up to be a

TRUE MAFIA PRODIGY

in the future winning without any controversy in the future.

Good luck on your next journey.

Thumbs-up to this post.

[FakeGod]

No because he had no business violating my privacy, so only a CONDITIONAL thumbs up, is ever appopriate unless you’re in favour of that and don’t think players have a right to privacy?

One of the things I truly dislike is when someone makes a mistake, and then makes a new account and pretend nothing ever happened.

I, for one, am glad that DT decided to post your history. I've had people I've blacklisted try to sneak back in my games under new alts, and try to hide behind "Why should I tell you my main? You are violating my privacy!" argument when I ask for their real identity. You obviously have something to work on if this wasn't your first time being called out for doing something like this, and it's clear from his post that he means well for you. I would heed his advice, instead of being angry about him pointing out your past history.

[FakeGod]

I apologize, Nancy.

I think it's best if we don't cross paths again in the future.

You have my sincerest wishes.

[FakeGod]

I think this game should serve as a springboard for a shift in site meta to regard toxic 1v1s as scum theater and to lynch both slots.

Only You Can Prevent Forum Fires

[FakeGod]

In witches ball, I mean, not the false started run of this setup

Ok maybe I'm still bitter about being denied a pairing with creature

I agree Creature is a superior dance partner to House in a secret alt.

But just about anything is a superior dance partner to House in a secret alt.

[FakeGod]

What even is this

Nancy is angry because she believes that I should have asked her for an explanation in private, and not damage her public image like I did through a public inquiry. In addition, she believes that DT should not have told everyone that she has been banned for similar behavior before, and I shouldn't have approved him afterwards.

I think her argument makes sense. She doesn't want people to know that she is a repeat offender, and she doesn't want her public image to suffer from this. I am of belief that you should always meet your mistakes head on, but I understand her position. Therefore, I apologized.

[FakeGod]

I agree, Krazy.

Therefore, I will be implementing the changes you've mentioned in my future games.