Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

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Ew

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Nancy, we should be bffs this game and talk about boys and stuff

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Ew

I promised myself I wouldn't cry...
Plus there's still 7 more to move onto!

Girls don't want a guy that doesn't compromise and go for whoever takes him, you don't make us feel special.

If you like it you then should put a ring on it

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Wait... Are you friendzoning me?

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Not to brag, but I did turn up on time unlike those other gentleman. And I can drive.

Shit you have a car?!?!!?? You should've started with that!

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Okay, so many great looking ladies.
However, lucky for you lot

I'm not a picky gentleman.

I will dance with anyone!

So the question is, who wants me?

Ew

Sorry, I’ll have to agree with Alisae here. You don’t want to dance with just “ANYONE”, since “anyone” might be scum.

Btw I'm really happy that you thought I was Alisae, that means I'm looking pretty

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2 timing me, already? Whaddaya take me for? Harumph

Okay, this looks bad but I swear I have no interest in Pink Ball! Unless Pink Ball is going to be the stereotypical "ugly" lady until taking the glasses off. If that's the case, then get your coat, you're getting the bus!

Lolwut?

And don’t you dare diss my wingwoman, you cad!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 thanks boo, I can't believe this guy called me ugly in front of everyone

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Good morning everyone

Spoiler:

You can do this Krazy... you can do this...

Are you encouraging yourself to talk with us the ladies? Awww you're so sweet

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I thought this game was about catching scum, not talking about mechanics. Can someone make a tl;dr of the discussion and continue the game? 'Cause I'm not good at reading people talking about mechanics. I think Krazy is town tho since, from what I read, his proposal was really pro town

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Omg I leave a couple of hours and the ladies are already fighting over the cute guys. Come on girls, we're better than them

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Ok so Firebringer, Nancy, Krazy and Gamma are all town. Alisae and Taly are close to town. I have my doubts about Dannflor and Allomancer is nothing like the obvtown I got last game.

I need more gents' townreads.

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I am being townread too easily here and its making me uncomfortable.

Probably means your scum. That's upsetting.

Why would that make him scum?

Another good post for why Nancy is scum.
Missing the obvious context that Vedith is screwing around.

That's exactly what makes Nancy town, doggo.

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If you feel like Nancy is being oblivious and she's posting 95% about reads, it's town Nancy. If she's fluffing more than usual, it's scum Nancy

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Oh, and if she's talking more about meta than anything else, it's even more town Nancy

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I am being townread too easily here and its making me uncomfortable.

I don't know how you play as scum and I don't rely too much on meta when a player is good, like you. You're playing pretty obvtown, that doesn't mean your scumgame is bad.

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wow Nancy actually got me triggered with that loaded statement about my the worst read.
I need something to calm me down.

someone tell me a funny joke

Want to hear something that’ll make you smile?

Spoiler:

Your face muscles

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Firedog, I have stated why you should townread Nancy and you haven't aknowledged it when you explicitly asked to "change your mind" about your read on her, and I also told you a joke when you said you needed to calm down. Are you ignoring me?

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No I am just going for low hanging fruit like a moron pinkball.
I did respond to ur bad townread on Nancy though.

Oooooh I didn't see your reply, thank you doggo senpai! Welp, we're going to disagree about her for now.

Did you read my joke tho? It was a great joke

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What a fucking mess. I'm finally caught up after the shitfest

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So, for what I've seen from the gentlemen:
PvtUrist town
Krazy town
RadiantCowbells town
Moment null
Allomancer scum
Dannflor town
DoubtingThomas who?
Dr Worm lol
Vedith town

From the ladies:
Ankamius null
Firebringer town
Alisae null
Nancy Drew 39 town
TheBrie who?
Gamma Emerald town
Pink Ball lol
Taly town

A lot of townreads so I'm happy for that, specially 'cause RC is town and he won't fuck my brains out

See, Urist, your tone here is what I expect from town!you. I think you're null scumreading me 'cause I defended Nancy and you're scumreading her? 'Cause I don't see any reason to scumread this adorable lady

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Dr Worm lol

is this Jester read

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is this Jester claim

You know I like to play like a jester until I obvtown. But my read on the worm is that he has made me laugh a lot and I'm willing to get quicklynched if that means pairing with him.

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Oooh I remember TheBrie now. She's null for now since I haven't seen too much of her

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Ankamius null

This sticks out to me. Why is this null? Are you having a hard time making up your mind or have her posts just not made an impression on you?

Hard time making up my mind. We have too different reads and I'm trying to sort if there's some kind of agenda being pushed by her or if they're legitimate reads. To be more specific: Firebringer's push on Nancy was hardcore, so it gives the opportunity to anyone to jump in there and push. Since I thing Fire ir wrong and that Nancy is obvtown here, Ank is the one who falls in that category.

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Firebringer is never wrong except for when he is wrong ms Pink Ball.
How dare you insinuate I am wrong when you haven't demonstrated that I statement i just made is inaccurate.

Awww seems like you're back to your puppy form, I'm glad! You're kinda scary when you turn into Cerberus

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I'm so tempted right now

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@Krazy, your reads? I still see mechanics on your ISO. Not to blame 'cause you're being pro town and someone has to do it, but if you keep going with that people will start to think you're just getting behind doing pro town things in order to hide your intentions.

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Classic Allousefulmancer

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Thinking I wanted a response from him, pffft

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I'm so tempted right now

No. Have some respect for yourself.

I thought you were scumleaning me. Who should I be paired then?

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fasf

What the hell does that mean

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To be clear, I have two options right now: pair with a gentleman that I'm townreading and tryhard this bitch, or pair with the worm who has won my heart. It's like my parents got an arranged marriage but I'm in love with the guy who cleans the toilets of the castle. Such pain!

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Why are we pairing already? I thought we agreed to have the rich women claim first‽

There's literally only one couple and Fire already claimed her coinage

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not my fault FB's too easy

HEY, you take that back you pig!

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Hey sexy

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Hiya qtpie

OMG SENPAI NOTICED ME

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Ily worm but I have a lot of coinage and people puts a lot of effort in this game in particular, it would be disrespectful to accept your invitation to dance without having some seriousness coming from you

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Hidden alts are fucking toxic

I'm a hidden alt and I don't think I'm toxic. I'm adorable

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Thank you for taking it at least a little seriously

Just a little? I have cool reads and all

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And there was Clem in the other game too, and here are lot of players playing seriously too. What's your point

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I do think you're speaking a bit soon, yeah. 'Cause I've seen Fire and Krazy put a lot of effort to make the game go with the flow, Dannflor too. Other players with different playstyles (like me and Vedith) are doing their thing too. The only person I see not doing that much is the worm, and even him has his thing 'cause he's funny af

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I already told you, you're lovely and that's all in the past <3

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Sorry Thomas but I have yo agree with Vedith, Fire is pretty hot.

Eyyyyyyyy lmao

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Btw @Dannflor I already think you're my perfect match but with the condition of letting me call you DanceFloor for the rest of the game

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Get it? Fire, hot?

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So many posts lol

I feel like I'm papa zito or something

You're absolutely a papasito

(it means daddy in spanish)

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lets start with

Krazy

them, because I have several reasons to think he's town and I'm legit ready to pair with him.

Do it! You're both town

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One more person calls this a TvT I swear to god I am throwing a chair.

Well, I'm not going to say it's a TvT, but I'm going to say that I'm townreading both of you

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Hey @Allomancer, thoughts on Moment and TheBrie?

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Yayyyyyyyyyyyy good boy!!!!

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What!?!?

You're a hoot

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Firebringer who do you scum read then?

pinkball you 2

I don't really like U2, it's like one of the biggest bands I really dislike.

I'm scumreading Allo and I still have my doubts about Ank, but for the moment I want to see more from the Moment and TheBrie to have a better perspective of the gamestate.

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You're a hoot

You're pretty

Omg omg omg omg

NANCYYYYYYY WE HAVE TO TALK

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oh i thought i said i dont like you and you replied with i dont like u 2 and was very sad

:/ u have reads on me? u wanna interact? i am so fucking bored nobody wants to talk to me cuz i have no name here i think :!!!!!!!!

I don't have a read on you and I'm letting you do your thing to sort you, but yeah sure we can interact. I like your avatar for starters

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@RC, do you like reading other games to sort people or nah? 'Cause there's a recently finished Newbie where PvtUrist was scum where he replaced out and his start has nothing similar to this game. I mean you don't have to read the whole game, he has like 12 posts there and he was pushing hard his scumpartner.

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@DoubtingThomas did you read the thread or at least a part from it? I mean before you started posting. Or are you just going with the flow?

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Dude you're SO getting laid after the dance

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Dude you're SO getting laid after the dance

who

wow this is some dedicated defense of a town read on another player isn't it

it's hot

This handsome fella

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Dude you're SO getting laid after the dance

who

wow this is some dedicated defense of a town read on another player isn't it

it's hot

This handsome fella

he keeps talking like Forrest Gump

Forrest Gump is my favorite movie of all time. I have a rule of watching it once a year minimum. In 2016 I almost forgot watching it but I remembered the day after christmas; I was so happy I didn't break my rule. Then on 2017 I watched it on January so I wouldn't forget. Then I watched it again in June 'cause fuck it why not.

So if DanceFloor is talking like Forrest, then call me Jenny from now on

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You're a hoot

You're pretty

Omg omg omg omg

NANCYYYYYYY WE HAVE TO TALK

Yes, I’m here. Do I sense true love forming?

I think he's the one Nancy, please tell me I'm not being delusional

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i like this post

Nice bro code...

my favorite sports is soccer partly because it's sports where you score against keepers

HOT DAMN

I stopped reading at soccer

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When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

I absolutely ship it. National Development and Reform Comission for life

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KRAZY ALLOWMANSTER and FREEBRANGER are TOWN-TOWN IN MY MIND AND HEART

Explain this, and find better material than

Nancy

SORY I missed this but JUST SAW IT mentioned in your LAST POST

KRAZY - much EFFORT to SETUP spec to the POINT it LOOKS FAKE and SCUM is scared to appear LIKE THIS
ALLOMASTER - SINCERE and reading EVRYTHING w/o picking at DUMB SUPERFICIAL STUFF
FURBRANGER - taking STANCES and making himself a TARGET for NO PERCEIVABLE SCUM BENEFIT

I wanna say these are reads people don't make unless they have played on this site or MU for at least 3 months, I don't even think homesites generate this kind of read-logic

the thing is that's really pissing me off is that I'm not even really disagreeing with the reads, it's just that I feel like he's been manipulative in how he presents himself

I think you're taking the worm too seriously when it's clearly not what he has intended at this point. It's pretty obvious he's an alt for the simple fact that he didn't even /inned in the Newbie Queue, 'cause alts can't do that when the main has enough experience. He would've /inned as a SE and that would've automatically outed the fact that he's an alt. He's just roleplaying a n00b

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Hey @Allomancer, thoughts on Moment and TheBrie?

@Allomancer

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DanceFloor, this is a warning: you flirt with my bffe one more time, and you won't get any of this. Chicks before dicks.

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I’ll do what I want

You could be one of my besties too. Besties before testes.

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friend politics are overrated

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broken hearts are very compelling pink

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Oh, I can't stay mad at you

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I wouldn't mind pairing with you at all if everyone thinks it's best but I also kinda like like Pink Ball

Who do you think is a good pair for Nancy?

I know this question is not directed at me but I think that, if it's not RC or you, it should be PvtUrist

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dnnflor and ank would be a good pair imo.

Grrrrrr

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@Firebringer

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@Firebringer

is he ur property?

In a kinky way, yes.

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He will WRECK THIS SHIT UP

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Mechanically I think pairing Drew is optimal rn

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@Allo I asked you twice about your reads on Brie and Moment, but instead of replying me directly, you just posted much later that Moment is townie and that Brie is probtown. Why are you ignoring me? Or worse, why are you not reading the thread?

@Nancy what more scumhunting do you want me to do in comparison with the rest of the playerlist? I'm an open book bae

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Urist is obvtown tho. But RC is your best match, I read your cards and he's in your not so distant future

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PB

, humor me, who is my best match?

Krazy

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#1265 #1814 posts of DT that felt genuine.

It's nothing solid, and again consists of 1) seems genuine, and 2) no scum pings yet.

Besides, DT doesn't add up into my {PB, Dann, Moment} scum team theory.

Ah, I see you've taken the tinfoil hat road by thinking my interactions with Dann are svs. Welcome to the club. I'm pairing with Dann as soon as he has the guts to invite me to dance, do you think that would be wise coming from an svs?

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How is urist obvtown

He's not, I was being rethorical 'cause Nancy said she would only pair with him if he gets obvtown and I think that's not even possible. But I do think Urist is town by tone and by meta. You're all right saying he hasn't played well, but that doesn't make him scum.

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#1265 #1814 posts of DT that felt genuine.

It's nothing solid, and again consists of 1) seems genuine, and 2) no scum pings yet.

Besides, DT doesn't add up into my {PB, Dann, Moment} scum team theory.

Ah, I see you've taken the tinfoil hat road by thinking my interactions with Dann are svs. Welcome to the club. I'm pairing with Dann as soon as he has the guts to invite me to dance, do you think that would be wise coming from an svs?

PB!Dann SvS interaction? Suppose I missed that.

No, you and Dann and scumreads for different, non SvS interaction reasons.

Dude we are like... The hottest couple in the thread, we have been throwing hints to eachother for a long time.

Why are you scumreading me? That's lame sauce

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Urist is obvtown tho. But RC is your best match, I read your cards and he's in your not so distant future

Why is RC my best match?

From my point of view, because you're one of my biggest townreads and I want RC paired with town. Because of his reputation, people will WIFOM him whenever they get the chance, so it's better having him with someone difficult to lynch. If RC is scum, I trust in your ability to catch him in your exclusive PT since you're good at reading players' intentions and you're not easily pocketed.

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I'm not expecting to make it into the last 6, take that as you will.

{Krazy, Taly, Anka, ND39, Allo, Gamma, Vedith, DT, Brie}
{Alisae, FB, Dr.W, RC}
{PB, Dann, Moment}

are where I'm at.

Why are PB and especially Dann so low?

They're scum reads.
PB for gut/tone-read,
Dann as explained, and
Moment as above.

The list of players currently already townread is also a factor.

Don't be lazy. Have you read any game with me in it in order to scum toneread me? And gut why? You're just not giving a chance to reply to your read on me

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PB

, humor me, who is my best match?

Krazy

#1265 #1814 posts of DT that felt genuine.

It's nothing solid, and again consists of 1) seems genuine, and 2) no scum pings yet.

Besides, DT doesn't add up into my {PB, Dann, Moment} scum team theory.

Ah, I see you've taken the tinfoil hat road by thinking my interactions with Dann are svs. Welcome to the club. I'm pairing with Dann as soon as he has the guts to invite me to dance, do you think that would be wise coming from an svs?

RC doesn’t even intend to ask me and i think I should be paired with either Dan or Krazy. I would not be opposed to any of those 3, however.

RC said that the mechanically correct pairing for him was you, so I think there's intention. And you keep implying Dann or Krazy who I don't think either has intended to pair with you since Krazy already invited Taly and he's waiting that reply, and Dann is, in all seriousness, my best pairing, since we're not an obvtown pair and scum will likely push us and we could get some cool interactions out lf it. Also, as far as I know, he trusts me as mucho as I trust him

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Hi sexy

P-edit damn it let me flirt with daddy DanceFloor you guys

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Hi sexy

p sure they should rename that ariana grande song God is a pink ball

Jokes aside, you made me explode in laughter

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Don't be lazy. Have you read any game with me in it in order to scum toneread me? And gut why? You're just not giving a chance to reply to your read on me

1)Your read on Nancy at the beginning of the game were conflicting, it's no longer the case and I should've taken that into account.

2)Your current read on Dann.

3)Your pocket on me, then I read through your ISO and realised it was genuine.

tone/gut read came from 1), something that's redundant that I've forgot. 3) is BS from me now that I've realised. 2) still stays, but it's not enough for a scumread.

Sounds like you're townreading me

I'm not the only one townreading Dann, so why am I his partner? And I get that you could feel pocketed, but strategically speaking, from all the playerlist, why would I try to pocket you?

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I'm trying to figure out if Pvt's hard tunnel on me and the fact that it's done so poorly is more town or scum

Read some posts from newbie 1905 between pvt and foodcoats and you'll get your answer

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K well I'm here but it's gonna take hours to closeread this 100 page game so don't hold your breath

I'm Kirby, I can hold my breath for a really long time

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has anyone read PinkBalls iso this game and just gone "wow this is a good read. 10/10 funniest best posts in this game".

not being sarcastic. PB iso is delicious.

Nancy I know you got some beef in the past with this bitch (female dog) but she's OUR bitch now

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I agree 100% with RC and trust Nancy to leave the dance as soon as she feels RC is going on a rampage.

PvtUrist should start talking with Gamma.

DanceFloor should kiss me already.

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Who knows him better again?

I don't know your experience with a lot of players in this game. I know Fire knows you, I'd bet that Ank, Gamma, and Vedith also do. Depending on who Pink Ball is an alt of he may also qualify.

I know RC enough to know that if he's scum I would probably replace out. I had my doubts joining this game because he inned before me, but I decided to give him and myself a second chance. And I'm saying giving myself a second chance 'cause I don't think it's RC's fault that I feel this way about him, it's entirely on me.

That being said, I've had a wonderful time this game. Maybe it's because RC's avatar is so cute now.

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Just wanted to state that if ANYONE is planning to ask me out with flowers, a beautiful arrangement of purple Alstromerias, some white Easter Lillies and a pair of yellow Bird of Paradise will do!

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I'm going to be flipped super soon so we can treat me like an IC this game

I'd like to have veto over certain pairings: I'll use it sparingly but I want to end up with a few pairings I'm happy with

That's the exact same thing I did with Clem in the previous iteration, so I believe you entirely. Go on, I'm listening

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Nancy with Krazy and Taly with PvtUrist is pretty good

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I'm going to be flipped super soon so we can treat me like an IC this game

I'd like to have veto over certain pairings: I'll use it sparingly but I want to end up with a few pairings I'm happy with

How do you feel about me and PB?

I'm not sure about PB

Anything I can do to make myself sure on your eyes? If you think it's because I'm townreading Urist, that's a little lame

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I just finished one, rapper uPick. And my first game ever I replaced in a scum slot.

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Cockblocker

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Taly, Nancy and me are all strong independent women

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Gamma needs a nice gentleman too

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Honestly, I think Dr Worm is town. It just depends on who is willing to be in a PT with him

I really want to pair with you and I see another viable option for me. But if the optimal course of action is to pair you with someone else, I think I'll accept worm's invitation and cry for the rest of the game 'cause scum will probably IC him and lynch me because I'm prob scum who ICed him

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Does anyone object to me asking Nancy to the dance? soon™

Ahem

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Did you do your homework about me, RC?

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You're not driving right now, do you? Get off the phone right now you dingus

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Oh Taly I think I never answered you: I want you with Urist 'cause at this point he's getting scumleaned/read by a lot of people and I'm pretty sure he's town and will be pushed by scum tomorrow. You and Nancy are good partners for him to avoid that. I would offer myself but I'm not widely townread like Nancy and you. Also I still believe DanceFloor should ask me no matter what

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I accept Dr. Worm's invitation

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I'm going to ignore Dannflor for the rest of the game. You lost me

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I already cried the whole day since you guys started suggesting a Dannflor/Nancy pairing. I really wanted to have fun and have our own PT, you can't even IMAGINE the things I would've done to you in that sweet nest of love. But I can't accept being used, that wouldn't be respectful with myself. Nancy bae, I have nothing on you: chicks before dicks forever. Men are PIGS, so I'm going with a worm instead. AND HE'S A DOCTOR BY THE WAY, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LINVING HUH??? NOT A DOCTOR I BET

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Yeah, I had to do the same and hopefully people will appreciate what we did for the greater good. I forgive you boo I love you so much. NANCY MAKE MY MAN THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE

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By the way if Nancy tells me that you did something wrong to her you'll wake up with a horse's head in your bed

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Exactly. I'm crazier than Krazy

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I didn't understand neither of those posts. What's a finocchio by the way? I looked it up on Urban dictionary and says it's something I'm not comfortable reading

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Sorry I get it now. Remember I'm not an english native speaker so I thought you were implying something

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Leave the gun. Take the canoli

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Gamma is town and I hope she pairs with Urist.

I was a little depressed because of not pairing with DanceFloor but after Worm's joke about Nancy's 39502 posts I remembered how much I love him too <3

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I accept Dr. Worm's invitation

That's a freaking beautiful arrangement, thanks!! I think the rest of the gentlemen should learn a thing or two!!

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how is gamma town

The question is, how is she scum?

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You mean my 2500 posts ago reads? After 2500 posts, they're still better than yours'

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My read on Alisae and Dannflor changed tho

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Ok to be honest I'm not as convinced on Gamma as I'm pretending to be, but back then something pinged me townwise

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Also Ank, calling me out with a 2500 posts ago readlist? What's up with that? Did you have that post "saved for later" in the scum PT or something?

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My problem with Ank is that right before Taly is going to accept Krazy she says Krazy may be scum, and right after I accept Dr. Worm she says my reads are bad. Is like she's trying to set up WIFOM and future lynches.

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The only pairing that could want s/s is RC going against the expected and fucking us over 'cause he has enough scum equity sitewise to do something like that and win. But that's not the case 'cause he's town so don't bother to think about that.

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Help me read

S_S

,

Dann

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I'm signing off for now.

If it helps, I've only played once with SS; I was scum and he was town. I wanted to mislynch him and it turned out to be impossible, so I trust his town game enough to survive when he gets real pressure.

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Allo pairing? Me no likey

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I'm really happy for Nancy and Dann

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I expect the scumteam to have me as null in this game, specially after pairing with dr worm who, despite being townread now, it's easy to "change their mind" about him and mislynch us. Guess what fuckos: not gonna happen

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By the way, now that I'm paired I can freely claim my coinage: I'm the 5 coin lady

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By the way, now that I'm paired I can freely claim my coinage: I'm the 5 coin lady

you gave dr worm 5 coins? oh fuck no oh god

What do you even care if you're not townreading me

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My problem with Ank is that right before Taly is going to accept Krazy she says Krazy may be scum, and right after I accept Dr. Worm she says my reads are bad. Is like she's trying to set up WIFOM and future lynches.

I very slightly didn't like this post but it doesn't move PB at all in my order

maybe I'm just not used to people who don't know me that well defending me

Although I did mean to ask-- PB, you said last game that my being in the signup sheet was a reason you wanted to play? Have I played with your main then? I haven't really prioritized mainhunting you since I think you have several games on this account but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing there

We haven't played together with my main, but I really apreciate you because of reasons I can't say right now.

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I'm really happy for Nancy and Dann

<3 And I’m happy for you and Worm. You two make a cute couple.

Love wins. I feel like George Harrison and you being Eric Clapton

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Why do you care if you're not townreading me. You answered something I didn't ask

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Why do you care if you're not townreading me. You answered something I didn't ask

i literally just told you why i care.

And I literally just told you that your answer is not what I asked. If you're not townreading me, pairing with someone you're scumreading me should be good from your perspective.

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I'm really happy for Nancy and Dann

<3 And I’m happy for you and Worm. You two make a cute couple.

Love wins. I feel like George Harrison and you being Eric Clapton

So Dann is Patti Boyd (not an expert on this)?

Exactly! Also known as Layla

[Pink Ball]

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around

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Allomancer being inconsistent? That doesn't make sense!

[Pink Ball]

What? How?

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If Allo flips scum, the simplest way to explain his flubbing is to say that he initially put his buddy Dannflor as town and then his team later decided that Allo should distance from Dann, and he did so very awkwardly.

Oh ok I get your point, good catch.

But Dann is town tho

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I'm actually calling you out SS, that by saying that seems like you're planning a push on obvious town pair Nancy/Dann in case your scumpartner Allo flips

[Pink Ball]

Gamma/PvtUrist

[Pink Ball]

PvtUrist/Gamma and Moment/TheBrie. If Moment and TheBrie has both been null/scumread by a lot of players, better have them together than separated. Also Pvt is town and Gamma probably

[Pink Ball]

I'm actually calling you out SS, that by saying that seems like you're planning a push on obvious town pair Nancy/Dann in case your scumpartner Allo flips

Right, because I'm definitely in a position to push on an obvtown pair as scum, you know, with all the people townreading me and all

Good point again

[Pink Ball]

So my final suggestion is:
PvtUrist/Gamma
Moment/TheBrie
DoubtingThomas/SS
Allonely, I'm so lonely (8)

[Pink Ball]

Errrr why would Dann being town make Allo town? That correlation sounds more wacky

[Pink Ball]

Please stop.

Funny that this is probably the towniest post Moment made in my mind lol

and it's still basically NAI

From my point of view that was the scummiest post from Moment. Seemed like fake frustration, something easy to do instead of actually playing the game.

[Pink Ball]

Errrr why would Dann being town make Allo town? That correlation sounds more wacky

If we were to assume that the statement "if Allo is scum, then Dann is scum" is true, and we also assume that "Dann is town" is true, then by contraposition, we could conclude that "Allo is town" is also true.

Therefore, the more confident we are in those two premises, the more confident we can be in the conclusion.

Or, to use words instead of logic: it's not likely that scum-Allo flubs his read like that on a townie. Since you're confident Dann is town, it means that Allo is less likely scum for it.

That's not how logic works. If p is "Dann Is scum" and q is "Allo is scum", then:
P Q p-->q
T T T
T F F
F T T
F F T

So, Dann is scum implies Allo is scum is a true statement if both are indeed scum. If Dann is scum and Allo isn't, then the statement is false. But if Dann is town, Allo could be either town or scum, since the premise implied that Dann was scum, and he isn't. So the promise isn't broken if Dann is town, thus making Allo's alignment a mistery regarding Dann.

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It works in the other way too, SS. If Allo is scum and Dann is town, then the premise "Allo scum implies Dann is scum" was false and doesn't imply that both are town if Allo is town of if Dann is town

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What someone says exactly what you were thinking, you don't want to think they could be scum.

It's true that you don't WANT to think they could be scum.

That said, that's different from saying it actually affects the chance they are scum.

It depends on the scum equity of the statement, and also how difficult it would be to come up with that line of reasoning as scum. In this case, I don't really think either of those merits townreading Pink for saying that... if he's scum, it's a great way to cast doubt on multiple slots at once, and it's not exactly a rocket science thing to come up with.

I don't think Pink is scum, but I also don't think he should be townread specifically for pointing that out, because I bet he'd do it as either alignment. Make sense?

You always make sense. You're Somewhat_Smart

[Pink Ball]

You have to look them in the eyes and ask yourself "is she the one?"

[Pink Ball]

I'm townreading him

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I support PinkBall's suggestions for pairings. It'll be interesting what input the people actually involved provide however particularly because I think there's likely some scum in there.

So my final suggestion is:
PvtUrist/Gamma
Moment/TheBrie
DoubtingThomas/SS
Allonely, I'm so lonely (8)

not bad

saying people are okay with pairing you with SS is basically saying they're okay with lynching you with dance 1 at this point, in case the subtext here isn't clear

I mean I kinda poe'd you as scum but I have never really seen anything that makes me think there's a smoking gun, I just haven't seen a lot of sorting from you. So if you think Pvt or Moment should be with SS instead of you, you need to kind of say why

Not true. I'm not scumreading either of them

[Pink Ball]

Not true. I'm not scumreading either of them

Who do you want lynched in dance 1?

We'll see after looking at everyone's motivations, but it's probably Moment and TheBrie to avoid them at LyLo, unless they step up like TheBrie is doing

[Pink Ball]

Are you still scumreading DanceFloor, PvtUrist?? Oh, you!!

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Let's do this instead: find his partners and I'll give you a cookie. Maybe two. 'cause you're not getting him lynched while dancing with Nancyng

[Pink Ball]

Let's do this instead: find his partners and I'll give you a cookie.

This is a terrible idea please don't do this.

Don't scumhunt off of associatives with living players.

(And before anyone says anything, no this is not what I did with Allo and Dann.)

That's what yo- nevermind.

I'm telling Urist to look for other scum 'cause he keeps pushing Dann instead of looking for other scum players. The rethoric was like pandering: "ok buddy you got one, now go get the others". It was a semi joke.

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Here's my point;

If I can't convince people of my allignment, then I'll let my flip do so.

Problem is, my dear, you flipping town won't convince people of Dann's alignment. So please, don't talk like you're going to get lynched. I won't let them.

[Pink Ball]

Scum gentlemen are among {Krazy, RC, Allo, DT}.
Scum ladies among {GE, PB}.

Decided just now to leave Urist out becaues of 3283.

Explain your read on me, if you please?

[Pink Ball]

You're a

Yes, ofcourse there is Moment. Maybe actually pay attention to things once in a while.

Fuck you.

------

Scum gentlemen are among {Krazy, RC, Allo, DT}.
Scum ladies among {GE, PB}.

Decided just now to leave Urist out becaues of 3283.

Explain your read on me, if you please?

What would you like me to explain? I don't townread you. It's purely process of elimination.

Then explain your reads on everyone else? If you're going to simply aay "PoE", then you better explain everything. I don't buy it

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Should we start making ship names for the couples? Like Ankowbells for example

[Pink Ball]

Should we start making ship names for the couples? Like Ankowbells for example

DOES EVERYBIDY agree DR WORM should be in CHARGE of this?? YES??? OK!!!

Vedith - Firebringer
BRANGERDITH

RadiantCowbells - Ankamius
ANKLEBALLS

Krazy - Taly
TRAZLY

Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39
NANCERFLOOR

Dr Worm - Pink Ball
TRUELOVE4EVER

This is the kind of shitposting I subscribed for

[Pink Ball]

Oh no, is it the returning of Allousefulmancer?

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You go to sleep at 10.30 on a college night? God, I would've finished college way earlier if I could be like you. Respect.

About Urist: I think that I can't convince you by just saying it's a meta toneread? Urist feels pretty much like the Newbie I quoted earlier, and he was being scumread for the same reasons he has been scumread here. I think the only question I could ask you is, what's scum!Urist doing to win this game? Is tunneling Dann pro scum? In which way?

[Pink Ball]

Like, if I felt his tunneling is fake and that he went for it to ressemble his town games, I wouldn't mind leaving him predance. But his case on Dann is thoughtful and makes sense from his point of view

[Pink Ball]

@Taly did you sleep well?

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i swear i get mislynched over the dumbest shit possible at the times i do

i dont even know why i was even scumread in the first place in SC2

i dont work well when towns knowingly stab at themselves saying "AM I CATCHING SCUM? AM I CATCHING SCUM!?"

my only regret was not pushing my 2 correct votes on scum

(Alch/Pint)

, but it was hard to do that when i was deathtunneled by a hydra i townread

(love you STW)

and literally half the people who knew me in the game was comparing me to my LABYRINTH GAMEPLAY.

UGH. GTFO.

im not salty at all anymore tbh, but you know.

i had to get some unfiltered thoughts out it was a good game until i... flaked but gg scum in that game and ty again for modding

Krazy

<3

Scum focused hard on your slot, that's what happened.

[Pink Ball]

Or you're moment's partner and it was all fake

I think you're town regardless. Who do you want from the gents remaining? And who should pair with Gamma?

[Pink Ball]

Are you scumreading DoubtingThomas at this moment?

[Pink Ball]

i swear i get mislynched over the dumbest shit possible at the times i do

i dont even know why i was even scumread in the first place in SC2

i dont work well when towns knowingly stab at themselves saying "AM I CATCHING SCUM? AM I CATCHING SCUM!?"

my only regret was not pushing my 2 correct votes on scum

(Alch/Pint)

, but it was hard to do that when i was deathtunneled by a hydra i townread

(love you STW)

and literally half the people who knew me in the game was comparing me to my LABYRINTH GAMEPLAY.

UGH. GTFO.

im not salty at all anymore tbh, but you know.

i had to get some unfiltered thoughts out it was a good game until i... flaked but gg scum in that game and ty again for modding

Krazy

<3

Scum focused hard on your slot, that's what happened.

I was just telling Ank, how I was pretty much mechanically cleared town in MBoS. Honestly no offense and I still <3 you but sometimes town is just really dumb.

I agree, but mastina framed you pretty well and we still won tho

[Pink Ball]

If urist doesn't pair today and flips scum, I'll reconsider my read on DanceFloor.

VOTE: No lynch Dance 1 or whatever the phrasing was stupid phone posting p-edit yeah it was correct

[Pink Ball]

Saying that his reads are right if he's town is giving him a huge burden. Like, if he's wrong after someone flips, you go and lynch him for being wrong and if he flips town, you go and say "oh ok justified because his read on bleh was wrong".

Either you get your own reads and see if RC's reads are close to yours, or just wait to get a better read on him. But using that level or BoP is unfair. RC is good, but not Pink Ball good

[Pink Ball]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

[Pink Ball]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

even when he's a wolf? :doge:

When he's a wolf you can't just go and say "we will trust RC's reads after he flips", what's the point of playing with a good player if you won't try to improve to get on his level. So yes, if he's wolf, you git gud and lynch him without a shitty excuse for lynching him. Fair and square. I read the last iteration of Red Flag (NSG modding) and the first scum I caught was RC. It's not impossible, so if you're so afraid of playing with scum!RC, don't play with RC at all.

[Pink Ball]

So Allomancer is left out. Could someone talented enough write a por about him?

Pretty happy with the pairings, we got this in the bag guys

[Pink Ball]

A poem* shitty phone

[Pink Ball]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

even when he's a wolf? :doge:

When he's a wolf you can't just go and say "we will trust RC's reads after he flips", what's the point of playing with a good player if you won't try to improve to get on his level. So yes, if he's wolf, you git gud and lynch him without a shitty excuse for lynching him. Fair and square. I read the last iteration of Red Flag (NSG modding) and the first scum I caught was RC. It's not impossible, so if you're so afraid of playing with scum!RC, don't play with RC at all.

I've never played with scum!Rc yet, but have more or less correctly town read him in most situations despite being in thunderdome (lynched him when his lynch was basically set and nobody wanted to post until lynch happened)

don't give me this shit please

Oh I wasn't saying that to you, it was a generality. Was my two cents about RC since Someone Sharted said he would follow RC's reads after he flips

[Pink Ball]

Saying that his reads are right if he's town is giving him a huge burden. Like, if he's wrong after someone flips, you go and lynch him for being wrong and if he flips town, you go and say "oh ok justified because his read on bleh was wrong".

Either you get your own reads and see if RC's reads are close to yours, or just wait to get a better read on him. But using that level or BoP is unfair. RC is good, but not Pink Ball good

MBoS is an obvious exception, right?

That's in the past. I have trascended into a god of mafia since then

[Pink Ball]

A poem* shitty phone

Ah. Maybe, I did manage to rhyme for most of when I was in Any Rapper UPick

So Allomancer is left out. Could someone talented enough write a por about him?

Pretty happy with the pairings, we got this in the bag guys

I can try but I'm not going to be rhyming it or anything

The more the merrier, ladies! We have a fallen gent, the least we can do is honour his departure. Nobody wants to be the leftout

[Pink Ball]

Spanish keyboard problems, Nancy

[Pink Ball]

Allomancer: a haiku

Oh Allomancer
I thought you'd be more useful
It's snowing on mountain Fuji

[Pink Ball]

There once was a player named Allomancer
Who himself was quite the fine dancer
His only dream was a date
Alas, he could not find a mate
And so, poor Allo died of cancer

Why are you so likeable? Don't you realize our love is forbidden?

[Pink Ball]

Before someone else says it, if I were scum I would've probably proposed to make Urist IC 'cause I was one of the few players saying he was town on D1, so I wouldn't have to keep defending him and still be consistent with my reads, 'cause I proposed a Gamma/Urist pairinh and from anyone's scum POV, that's a pairing you can take to an eventual LyLo.

But since I'm not scum and I doubt they thought about that 'cause I don't see anybody trying to frame me, I think the most logical answer is creating WIFOM for Gamma, who I think it's town

[Pink Ball]

And by the way, I had this written before Allomancer flipped but the thread locked before I could post it. I posted it in my lover thread with Dr Worm, which has been a blast for anyone wondering!

Allomancer, you poor fella
Sadly, you've been left out
Outside this game you'll find your bella
Of that I have no doubt

But now it's time to go
I hope you understand
Even if this is your death row
For you we all shall stand

[Pink Ball]

To do list:
- look who was content with Allo being left out / people wanting him yto stay. Decide which of the contents had no reasoning behind that / decide who defending him could've been trying to pair him with a potential mislynch.
- read Ank and RC's ISO
- push SS

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@taly deciding who was defending him to mislynch him clearly implies that not everyone was doing that: you could've been defending him because you thought he was town. I want to reread to decide if I can get anything about Allo that could be useful. Yes, I was one of the players scumreading Allo and wanted him to be left out.

Also no, I said that if Urist flipped scum, I would've thought Dann was scum, not the other way. I said that 'cause the last scumgame I saw from Urist, the only push he commited to was his scumpartner

[Pink Ball]

His "we sheep RC after he flips town" followed by RC dying

[Pink Ball]

His "we sheep RC after he flips town" followed by RC dying

The whole point of that was I was so paranoid of RC I didn't want to trust his reads while he was alive... why would I then kill him as scum?

To "trust" his reads and take advantage of it

[Pink Ball]

Yes I'm saying he could be wrong on one pairing and you could use that to your benefit. SS if you're town, you think this doesn't make sense? 'cause I think it's pretty easy to understand what I'm saying.

[Pink Ball]

I think the point is, I might do that if RC was wrong on a read.

But I'd never do it if he wasn't, so Pink's push is based on an unproven premise that one of Dann/Nancy/Moment/Brie is scum.

Or that one of his scumreads was town

[Pink Ball]

Why are all my townreads leaving the dance

[Pink Ball]

Taly, you're wrong. Next.

@Nancy Mr. Worm didn't want to discuss about reads before the first flip and the IC reveal 'cause he had suspicions on me, so all we did was post dancing gifs. It was hilarious

[Pink Ball]

I love calling Mr. Worm a Mr., is kinky as fuck. I feel like the girl of 50 shades of Grey.

Mr. Worm, our story will be known as fifty shades of Pink

[Pink Ball]

I saw your questions, Taly. I'm phoneposting until March 'cause I'm on vacations and your posts are huge and reformatting them is a bitch from a phone. If me saying "you're wrong" is not enough after all I've done from the start of this game, then you won't change your read on me and all I can do is tell you that you're wrong, sadly. You asking me about one of my posts being relevant is like you haven't read my ISO at all. And the way you make your questioning is disencouraging 'cause it's like you won't like my answers either way.

So to summarize: I can't edit your posts to give you suitable answers; seems like you can't read me at all; and I feel like answering you would be a waste of time. Given this three things, do you think I wanna answer your questions at all?

[Pink Ball]

Taly, you're wrong. Next.

@Nancy Mr. Worm didn't want to discuss about reads before the first flip and the IC reveal 'cause he had suspicions on me, so all we did was post dancing gifs. It was hilarious

Got to say PB, this doesn’t exactly read like a ringing endorsement, especially when he didn’t express any suspicions of you pre-intermission in the main thread.

Yeah I thought that too, but I think it's because I accepted his dance proposal only when people started saying they were townreading him, which it's true, but it was a coincidence since I was waiting to see if I could pair with Dann and when we decided that it was the best for town to pair Dann with you, I accepted the proposal. It had nothing to do with people calling Worm town, as I stated really early that I was tempted to accept and not tryhard this game as I would've done with Dann. 'cause pairing with Worm was, at the end of the day, making myself a liability

[Pink Ball]

The funny thing is, Taly has me as his scummiest read and the rest of his readlist is EXACTLY my readlist, so if I leave the dance and flip town, don't change your reads Taly, they're good

[Pink Ball]

1. He started dancing
2. I asked him for his reads instead of dancing
3. He told me to wait until dance 2
4. I told him fair enough and danced with him

So now I'm waiting for him to come and talk with me but he hasn't posted here so I don't have reasons to believe he's ignoring me, yet. I'll encourage him if I see that he's ignoring me

[Pink Ball]

I think it's DT, Moment and one between TheBrie and SS, inclined to believe is TheBrie and aknowledging that I'm paranoid about SS but not townleaning him despite that. And Dr Worm would be the wildcard; he's the definition of null

[Pink Ball]

@Pink Ball, can you link me to one of your scumgames? Generally I get pinged when someone is playing extremely differently than usual but I haven’t been seeing that so far but maybe Taly is seeing something I’m not?

Phoneposting, complicated. But look for my first game ever, I replaced in a scum slot. My other scumgame is any rapper uPick with Slaxx modding

[Pink Ball]

@taly deciding who was defending him to mislynch him clearly implies that not everyone was doing that: you could've been defending him because you thought he was town. I want to reread to decide if I can get anything about Allo that could be useful. Yes, I was one of the players scumreading Allo and wanted him to be left out.

Also no, I said that if Urist flipped scum, I would've thought Dann was scum, not the other way. I said that 'cause the last scumgame I saw from Urist, the only push he commited to was his scumpartner

Yeah, I

could've

been defending him because I thought I was town.
I

could've

been trying to pair him to get a mislynch.

You don't make any conclusion about me when I asserted my read of

Allo

, and I don't recall anyone else defending a reason to townread him based on the gamestate.

So how about you talk to me about

Nancy/Dann

? Since you think the NK and IC choice can be WIFOM - AND because

Nancy/Dann

both scumread

Allo

- very similarly to yourself.

His "we sheep RC after he flips town" followed by RC dying

His "we sheep RC after he flips town" followed by RC dying

The whole point of that was I was so paranoid of RC I didn't want to trust his reads while he was alive... why would I then kill him as scum?

To "trust" his reads and take advantage of it

You see, I can definitely note how this is a possibility for

S_S

scum. But who do you think is associated with

S_S

if he were scum?

I didn't see people raising their hands agreeing with

S_S

in 3934, and I don't fully see your line of thinking about

S_S

being potential scum as you haven't really given a read on him Pre-Dance.

What was your original read on

S_S

what plan were you talking about with RC that showed he had a way to win this game and why did it revolve around him and Ank's death?

RC had near-lock townreads on Moment/Brie and Dann/Nancy, and the plan was simply to kill everyone except them. The problem was that RC's reads couldn't have been trusted to be 100% genuine while he was alive, so he needed to die for it to work.

Ehhhhh.... Did you townread

RC/Ank

at all? I want you to give an actual read and your assessment about the gamestate - rather than planning things and giving ideas solely based on other people's reads.

This is the post that discouraged me, Taly. You were taking everything I was saying and giving it a scummy turn. So why would I keep engaging with you if everything I say comes as scummy to you? If I'm town, I get pissed; if I'm scum, I'd rather avoid you. I'm telling you: I'm pissed and not trying to avoid you, since I explicitly stated that I read your questions and I'm not answering because of how I feel towards your pressure.

Even if you don't think so, the minute I accepted being paired with Mr. Worm I became a low hanging fruit. I was expecting other players to push me, but you're making their job right now. Not that you're pushing me hard, not even close; but you have promised a scum case on me and believe me, people will jump on it.

Vedith was townreading me and I was townreading him since the begining of the game. Could scum!Pink Ball predict that Vedith would leave the dance with Fire, other of my solid townreads? I would like to say yes, but I'm not that good

[Pink Ball]

Why would I vote DT before Moment/TheBrie if I'm more inclined to believe that the second is a two scum pair vs DT who is paired to someone that could be town

[Pink Ball]

I'm probably getting a computer tomorrow so I will try to make a good case on them, Dann. But for starters, if RC was wrong about them, killing him and Ank was exactly what they had to do 'cause someone like you would say exactly what you're saying now

[Pink Ball]

I'm not following. Wouldn't keeping RC and Ank alive be optimal since they would defend that pair?

Better kill them and having his last words be enough defense than risking him turning his reads after more reads. As SS said, he would follow RC's reads after RC flipped town.