Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Ankamius]

Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

[Dr Worm]

VEDITH I am not a real doctor!! But I am REAL worm. I am an actual worm!!

[Ankamius]

I agree that high coin ladies should claim since I did it last game

But I vehemently deny that skipping first dance is a good idea in any stretch

[Vedith]

For what it's worth, I don't care how rich any of you are.

[Alisae]

I AM SO SORRY AKIASAE!! I don't want to obnoxious you I am just trying to get BETTER at mafia but I CAN HANDLE CRITICISM. So let me know if you think I'm getting better!!

you can start by stopping whatever the fuck this is and play on your main

Oh wait you have airpods in you can’t hear us

[Ankamius]

Dann is a scumread too btw

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ew

I promised myself I wouldn't cry...
Plus there's still 7 more to move onto!

Girls don't want a guy that doesn't compromise and go for whoever takes him, you don't make us feel special.

If you like it you then should put a ring on it

+1

I’m not sure he actually cares, which lady he puts a ring on.

Spoiler:

He's like Sain from Fire Emblem

I have absolutely no idea who that is.

[Dr Worm]

I don't think ALISAER wants to dance with me..

[Gamma Emerald]

Shit you have a car?!?!!?? You should've started with that!

Maybe we can go to McDonalds after my

date

dance with Nancy,

Mate.

Eugh this feels mildly squicky, why the mate at the end.
Could just be reacting like Donna does here though.

[Alisae]

I don't think ALISAER wants to dance with me..

atm I don’t want to dance with anyone but rc

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Vedith, this is how a real gentleman introduces himself.

Considering he is a doctor, he has a serious lead on me anyway!
Lets lay this all on the table now Nancy... You don't want others to dance with me because I spiked your interest!
So it's a case of if you can't dance with me, no one can.

Yep, you’ve got me nailed dead to rights here.

[Allomancer]

I agree that high coin ladies should claim since I did it last game

But I vehemently deny that skipping first dance is a good idea in any stretch

I agree

Dann is a scumread too btw

I disagree

[Nancy Drew 39]

I AM SO SORRY AKIASAE!! I don't want to obnoxious you I am just trying to get BETTER at mafia but I CAN HANDLE CRITICISM. So let me know if you think I'm getting better!!

Stop typing in allcaps, it’s annoying.

[Dannflor]

I think we can avoid skipping the first dance as long as we’re careful with where our coins go in the pre-dance.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

RC hasn’t even posted. Why are you defacto already assuming he’s town here?

[Ankamius]

I agree that high coin ladies should claim since I did it last game

But I vehemently deny that skipping first dance is a good idea in any stretch

I agree

Dann is a scumread too btw

I disagree

He's done nothing that's town and the way he's dancing around the setup discussion feels too "scum trying to post a lot to hide how little they're saying" for my taste

[Gamma Emerald]

First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached.

So I'm just rereading the ruleset

uh, do we just do nothing first dance?

Sorry I was about to vomit out some setup stuff that hinged around how much I hate the coins and then I realized simply not lynching anyone was an option.

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

I don't know how to feel about this, weren't you in the last one Krazy?

[Alisae]

Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

RC hasn’t even posted. Why are you defacto already assuming he’s town here?

ay dats a pretty good post I had those thoughts myself

[Ankamius]

Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

RC hasn’t even posted. Why are you defacto already assuming he’s town here?

Is a strategy I can see scum doing: identify the biggest threats and neutralize them asap

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think we can avoid skipping the first dance as long as we’re careful with where our coins go in the pre-dance.

+1

Agreed, there’s a way to play this smart.

[Gamma Emerald]

To add to what Taly said, pairs should probably be decided near end of the pre-dance so we have the most info when making them. ...or we just pick a date we think is cute.

I like this realism about the chances of an effective pairing strategy

[Gamma Emerald]

So basically there are two ways to play this setup.

I think *both are viable*... and we maybe should think about it a little bit

Strategy 1: We commit to a tentative grouping of 6 locktown players to endgame

Problem with Strategy 1: Scum will, on average, I believe have 6-7 coins toward the end of dance one. But they can have more.

So the really annoying scenario that might have made me really angry in the past is {what if this game gets really stupid}

The game gets really stupid if we spend all of pre-dance hammering down our top 6 townreads, and then it's clear what the lynch order is

So we have at the end of dance 1 7 pairs:
Town pair 1
Town pair 2
Town pair 3
{knows they will get lynched pair A}
{knows they will get lynched pair B}
{knows they will get lynched pair C}
{knows they will get lynched pair D}

Which means that *if* (and again, this is actually a statistically uncommon scenario) there are two scum men in "ABCD" and their combined coin count is over 8 (which is barely a statistical blip -- if there are two scum men it is not at all unlikely their combined count is over 8) which would mean if they wanted to they could actually lynch Town Pair 1, kill Town pair 2 at night, and then throw the IC on one of the two scum men that scumclaimed, thus rendering the IC useless and creating massive wifom about the remaining pairings. That might even be game winning at that point if no scum had been lynched at that point.

I am NOT saying this is a likely scenario. But I did, at some point in the past, start getting *very focused* on this particular scenario and I think we might want to think very briefly about how we want to actually play out this game

Wait I need to read the rules again now

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh boy so the IC is deferred to later. That's interesting and negates the chance of it getting killed. I like.

[Allomancer]

oh no anka might be scum here what do i do

[Dr Worm]

Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

RC hasn’t even posted. Why are you defacto already assuming he’s town here?

nancy why aren't you angry at anklemouse for using all caps?? thats not fair