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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:10 pm

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My wolfread are ankamiue and Pvturists btw

Both are rather tentative I'm more focused on poeing town which I'm going to largely keep my townreads to myself for now
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:10 pm

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In post 799, Ankamius wrote:
In post 797, Allomancer wrote:i dont think so
He's starting to go down the path I expected he would as scum.

No

U don't expect me to go down any path as scum
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:11 pm

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In post 800, RadiantCowbells wrote:My wolfread are ankamiue and Pvturists btw
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:11 pm

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Btw RC

I'm just going to point out again

I saw Nancy play this exact same way as scum before, so that absolutely is not a reason to townread her, at best it is null.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 803, Ankamius wrote:Btw RC

I'm just going to point out again

I saw Nancy play this exact same way as scum before, so that absolutely is not a reason to townread her, at best it is null.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 401, Allomancer wrote:caught up to 350.
firebringer is vi town
nancy is null
Why VI specifically
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 798, RadiantCowbells wrote:The absolute simplest answer

is that I think that my read on her tone and ate trumps that

The less simple answer is that all of these things fundamentally boil down to a player being strange and finding her understandable in a previous game if her thought process is weird to you doesn't mean you'd understand her this one

Man I don't really wanna argue this right now
I think her tone her in all cases except the emotional outburst was not townie. It was NAI at best....

Like Ank made good points of how the tone of approach to us when we called her scum was different than when she gets called out on being scummy as town. Like and then she immediately tried to adjust course by doing what Ank said she would normally do by going the route of "well why you have wrong reads on me".

Where exactly was she scumhunting in most of that interactions? Do you think she wouldn't in that situation?
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm

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There is literally nothing I can say that will convince you that she's town so I'm going to do other stuff with my limited thread time rn
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 790, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want a response to my deadline concern if you haven't given one already.
Generally these games do not, in fact, last 26 days. On average we should be looking at something like ~20 days I think? some phases will usually go much faster than others.

In Halloweens' Ball I think think the lynch priority order was all decided in pre-dance, which was 8 days. So I think that town can in fact sort that many players in 8 days (they may even be better at it than in a slower game). Town did play out dance 1, but again, there was no coins mechanic there. So basically I'm just saying that the time town took in dance 1 there would be more safely allocated in dance 2. 8 days-1 day-8 days, rather than 8 days-8 days-1 day

As it is, I don't think town is just going to skip pre-dance, and it sounds like town is kinda playing around with actually playing at least some big chunk of Dance 1. So we should have like about the average 20 days to sort even if we skip dance 1--8 days pre-dance, skip dance 1, 2 day intermission, 8 days for second dance.

And we would still play out Dance 1 if the gentlemen we exclude at end of pre-dance is scum.

So I do think skipping dance 1 is still a reasonable offer, but I think we can also play dance 1 out if we feel pretty good about the top 4 town gentlemen and the coin pairings.

Gonna grab some dinner now, -- if you want me to stop talking mech, please stop asking me mech questions lol
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 800, RadiantCowbells wrote:My wolfread are ankamiue and Pvturists btw

Both are rather tentative I'm more focused on poeing town which I'm going to largely keep my townreads to myself for now
urist is town here
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 809, Allomancer wrote:
In post 800, RadiantCowbells wrote:My wolfread are ankamiue and Pvturists btw

Both are rather tentative I'm more focused on poeing town which I'm going to largely keep my townreads to myself for now
urist is town here
Why
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 742, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey Firebringer

How do you think I caught you in the last dance game

Have you given it any thoughts?

holy fuck is this civ mafia 2.0
Because i tried to start fights with you. Is my guess.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:15 pm

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In post 410, Dannflor wrote:Nancy, what are your reads right now? Sorry if it's annoying for me to ask but I can't find it in your ISO and seeing some concise direct thoughts from you would help
what are the chances of that happening though? scum can always pair with each other if it seems one of them will be forced out
this is exactly why Vedith is town lol
Agree with top part, confused by the bottom.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:15 pm

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In post 807, RadiantCowbells wrote:There is literally nothing I can say that will convince you that she's town so I'm going to do other stuff with my limited thread time rn
And theres literally nothing i can do that convinces you apparently. I guess we are both stubborn and closed minded here.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:16 pm

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Ank I'm still waiting for you to provide this ND meta
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:17 pm

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In post 431, Firebringer wrote:
In post 429, Allomancer wrote:you literally made a case against me because my posts in this game aren't like last game.
nope I didn't, saying you don't play like yourself. I read multiple games of yours during last game man.
I had to like cut myself while doing it because the pain of the knife was more pleasant than that, but i did that.
wow very edgy imo
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:18 pm

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RC this is what i am open to with regards to my Nancy read:

I am open to saying that tone is NAI.
I am open to saying that things I think she is scum for aren't based on some evidence that what I am saying isn't scummy for her, lack of scumhunting, and lack of awareness. But you have to show me why those things mean nothing.
And I haven't seen anything that doesn't tell me that those mean something and that she isn't scum for those things.

So now we are at a impasse.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:19 pm

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I have like no time in thread right now

Friday I start being relevant

I'm just catching up and attempting to diffuse what I think is a really bad situation
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:20 pm

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For all the hype you gave my towngame ankamius I find it very strange that in calling someone who I have tons of meta experience with town your assumption is that I'm wolf rather than right
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:20 pm

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The situation is fine now. Nancy is leaving. We get someone new in and we can both analyze them. How about that?
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 780, Gamma Emerald wrote:I feel like everyone is ignoring me rn which concerns me
Hi GAMMAMERALD!! what do you want us to say ABOUT YOU,?
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:22 pm

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Have a read on me yet?
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:24 pm

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In post 818, RadiantCowbells wrote:For all the hype you gave my towngame ankamius I find it very strange that in calling someone who I have tons of meta experience with town your assumption is that I'm wolf rather than right
tbh my initial thought when you came in here and defended Nancy the way you did was you came in here trying to defend an ally blatantly and you knew you could get away with it because its u.

But like I think I am overthinking and just digging my heels in too deep and making shit up that shouldn't be. So w/e
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:24 pm

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Bro

What if I'm right on someone who I'm way more familiar with than you are
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:25 pm

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In post 823, RadiantCowbells wrote:Bro

What if I'm right on someone who I'm way more familiar with than you are
what is this argument
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