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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:48 am

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Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:50 am

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VOTE: lovebird

vaguely remember name, dont remember games played
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Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 24, Lovebird wrote:Hi everyone :)

VOTE: Sash
VOTE: Sash

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Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:10 pm

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clemency's claim is an obvious joke
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Post Post #38 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:13 pm

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it's an obvious joke as well
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Post Post #56 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:39 pm

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In post 39, BuJaber wrote:
In post 34, mcqueen wrote:
In post 33, BuJaber wrote:
In post 32, BuJaber wrote:To hell with complexity..

VOTE: Clemency

Because that claim feels wrong. Simple as that.

Actually I don't know, flubber's might be worse.
am i overcomplicating it? i thought flubber’s was a joke, but any backup bus driver is effectively a vt until/if they become the bus driver
Correct. I was the one overcomplicating it in my head. It didn't need complication. The claim is stupid if town, it's way more likely to be from scum.
In post 38, rb wrote:it's an obvious joke as well
No doubt. But I'm saying scum in this case it is a joke from scum.

I'd be surprised if they were partners and both decided to make such a joke. But I don't know which if them would be the scum and which the annoying townie.
wow ur a serious guy imo
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Post Post #57 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 54, Lovebird wrote:VOTE: Akarin
VOTE: Akarin

still sheeping lovebird
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Post Post #63 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:04 pm

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um

it's just NAI
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Post Post #84 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:28 pm

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In post 80, ReaperOfSouls wrote:
In post 79, Flubbernugget wrote:Fuck me I completely forgot about this
UNVOTE: Clemency

For forgetting.
VOTE: Flubbernugget
rvs is over
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Post Post #85 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:30 pm

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In post 81, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 75, Akarin wrote:
In post 72, Eyes without a face wrote:^^Scum post/vote. Finding a reason to join a building wagon. Couldn't find anything but a rephrase of what 2 others already brought up.
This is exactly what you did though. Plus the OMGUS.
No. It clearly wasn't, as I was only the 2nd vote on Fallen. That and my reasoning obviously does not lead to a lynch, as nobody would ever think "Oh, he's right. They have no avi so let's vote them."

Eliot is voting me for doing something they view as scummy, which could lead to a lynch if others listened to them.

Your vote was silly
, but it was NAI to me. Eliot's looked like they're trying top build a wagon on me for real.

I would also note that Clemency had 3 votes on him before I voted, so if I wanted an easy lynch I should have joined his wagon instead, but since I didn't then your argument is clearly silly (see the underlined statement above), and makes Eliot's parroting of it even scummier.

Thank you for your attention
these all sound like good reasons to be voting akarin
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Post Post #91 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:48 pm

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In post 87, Sashaddin wrote:VOTE: rb

until I understand how he thinks and where he thinks it will go.
What's with all that sheeping?
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Rb
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Post Post #94 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:52 pm

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lovebird is likely town and akarin is a good vote
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Post Post #95 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:53 pm

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mcqueen is townlean for me atm
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Post Post #97 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:03 pm

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sashaddin what do you think is generally the best way to find scum?
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Post Post #101 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:12 pm

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okay thanks
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Post Post #104 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:46 pm

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is flubber bad enough to do this as scum
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Post Post #106 (isolation #16) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:22 am

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ok
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Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:23 am

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that was a statement

this is a mafia game
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Post Post #108 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:23 am

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how im doing boss??
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Post Post #109 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:24 am

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im tired and going to bread

goodnight
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Post Post #144 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:43 pm

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In post 125, Lovebird wrote:Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot
at first i preferred akarin, but after this page i also like this

VOTE: Elliot
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Post Post #146 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:42 pm

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In post 115, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 104, rb wrote:is flubber bad enough to do this as scum
You know my scum game
one game isn't knowledge

plus you know that i know

i don't consider it relevant
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Post Post #155 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:35 pm

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why are they not of the same alignment
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Post Post #156 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:39 pm

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more to the point, which one are you scumreading, and why?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:40 pm

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In post 152, mcqueen wrote:And to clarify - I feel like Lovebird's decisions and reads so far have been with as little reasoning as possible. The vote on Eliot seemed to come out of left-field (at least FMPOV), and when asked she said, "I felt like it."

I'm gonna fencesit a little bit and say that I'm not putting full trust in Eliot here, but I feel like his actions have better purpose behind them, enough to sway my vote to Lovebird.
is purposefulness townie? why?
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Post Post #158 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:41 pm

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lovebird is receiving minimum pressure because she's playing like town
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Post Post #160 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:00 pm

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what if they're both town?
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Post Post #165 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:36 pm

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okay, but do you actually scumread either of them, or is it that you think they aren't the same alignment and are thereby compelled to try and scumread one?

the former i get, the latter seems...arbitrary and contrived, and possibly a little lazy/opportunistic
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Post Post #166 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 151, mcqueen wrote:
In post 144, rb wrote:
In post 125, Lovebird wrote:Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot
at first i preferred akarin, but after this page i also like this

VOTE: Elliot
no, this is better

VOTE: Lovebird

I doubt Lovebird and Eliot are bussing here, so if one flips scum, to me the other is cleared. And out of the two, this is where I feel most comfortable applying pressure/ voting for the moment.

I also don't understand why Eliot is aquiring a wagon while Lovebird has received minimum pressure.
yeah same as above, do you actually scumread lovebird?

shouldn't you be more concerned about actually voting someone you think will flip scum, rather than putting a false sense of important on lovebird/elliot interactions?
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Post Post #170 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:20 pm

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fallendown more like fallentown
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Post Post #172 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:05 pm

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sure go ahead and say it
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Post Post #175 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:42 am

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In post 173, TTTT wrote:did you just change your avatar while I was mid-read?
damn you.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 179, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 146, rb wrote:
In post 115, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 104, rb wrote:is flubber bad enough to do this as scum
You know my scum game
one game isn't knowledge

plus you know that i know

i don't consider it relevant
I've never seen a single example of competence decreasing over time
'bad enough' is just general concept of 'is this within flubber's scum range?'

a single game played with you isn't meta knowledge
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Post Post #193 (isolation #33) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 184, ReaperOfSouls wrote:Okay quick read thru, intial impressions>
Akarin
Seems to be pursuing a very reachy argument on Eyes w/o a face.

Bujaber
Very serious out of gate. Jumping on the Clemency/Flubber joke?? claims. Shows genuine frustration that normally comes from town. and . Towns Eyes W/O a Face. Why? Leaning town at this point on BuJaber.

Eliot Ness
Latches onto Lovebird and . Spends almost all of thread time on this pursuit. Very tunnelly.

Eyes Without A Face
not alot to go on. Seems a tick defensive in response to being voted on. But find it NAI.

Fallendown
Seems inexperienced. How many games have you played @Fallendown. everyone is scum until cleared.

Flubbernugget
Just a question for those that have played with him before, is this how he plays? one game isn't meta.

Lovebird
I find almost TWTBAW. But I have no game experience with him. I agree on Akarin. First impressions are that they are asking questions and keeping things stirred up. But I also see a little defecting at times with answers to questions. But at this point I agree with someone elses assessment that she is interacting with alot of players whereas Eliot is tunneling only on her. Which I normally find scumtell this early, especially given the reason for the pursuit.

mcueen
At this point i disagree with . At this point I get more of a town feel from Lovebird than Eliot. But that doesn't mean I am correct in that read as I have some doubts also.

rb
Hmm at this point its alot of short answers and sheeping of Lovebird. Alot of post but not alot of meat.

Sashaddin
Townie post. Agree on the Lovebird/Eliot Ness at this point. agree on the tunneling. Sorta mindmeld going on some things.

TTTT
Why?

Clemency
Honestly didn't read yet. His ISO always makes my head hurt. Usually takes a bit and the read on him comes.

Good feels so far
BuJaber
Sashaddin

Not so good feels
Akarin
Flubbernugget
Eliot Ness
i've only ever seen lists like this come from scum

lovebird can you change your vote so i can vote bujaber too
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Post Post #201 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:57 pm

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In post 197, mcqueen wrote:
In post 158, rb wrote:lovebird is receiving minimum pressure because she's playing like town
how?
looks like she's actually trying to lynch scum
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Post Post #202 (isolation #35) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:59 pm

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moreover, she's been fairly active and nothing she's done really looks scummy

so if she seems to be trying to lynch scum, and isn't doing anything that makes me stop and wonder whythefuckareyoudoingthat, then i have to decide whether she's just town or some inhumanly good scum player

the latter's possible (i don't know her) but seems pointless to worry about on day1, and as long as she continues to play to this standard, i see no reason to doubt whether or not she's town
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Post Post #211 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:03 pm

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In post 203, Lovebird wrote:
In post 193, rb wrote:i've only ever seen lists like this come from scum

lovebird can you change your vote so i can vote bujaber too
Idk, I think he's town. I think, scum usually don't admit to not reading, or they try to have positions on everyone.
rly

but its so...bad
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Post Post #229 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:39 am

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sorry, for, my, bad, english, pls, forgive, me,
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Post Post #278 (isolation #38) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:27 pm

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i would like to vote him because bujaber is probably scum

why else
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Post Post #286 (isolation #39) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:52 am

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In post 281, mcqueen wrote:
In post 278, rb wrote:i would like to vote him because bujaber is probably scum

why else
Why
is BuJaber probably scum?
his read list is suk

also he is rly focussed on what seem like obviously inconsequential things and it looks forced to me

no other reasons
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Post Post #288 (isolation #40) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:53 am

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In post 285, Akarin wrote:I feel like no one actually reads anything I say, but the fact that I'm giving a crap means I'm vaguely scummy for some reason. Caring about this game isn't helping us win and it's just super depressing.

I wish
I
were a bus.
this post seems nice

but i didn't read it
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Post Post #289 (isolation #41) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:54 am

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In post 287, BuJaber wrote:Sorry..

Who were the two people fighting this game.. elliot/fallen?

One of them is the 3rd scum.
at this point i just think this is scum trying way too hard to look proactive

and doing a bad job of it
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Post Post #293 (isolation #42) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:37 am

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In post 290, BuJaber wrote:Scum cannot guarantee they will kill qho they want to kill so you try hard to discredit me? Am I really this close to nailing the scum team already?
wow every scumread that everyone has is just them discrediting that person's amazing reads imo
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Post Post #348 (isolation #43) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:06 pm

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In post 305, Akarin wrote:Lovebird, it's in the OP. But here you go

ReaperofSouls
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BuJaber
Clemency
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Eyes without a face
Akarin
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Eliot Ness
Alonzo
FallenDown

Sashaddin
Lovebird
swap lovebird and bujaber
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Post Post #349 (isolation #44) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:07 pm

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didnt even realise reaperofsouls existed in this game
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Post Post #350 (isolation #45) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:07 pm

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he seems ok from skimming his iso for like 2 minutes tho
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Post Post #359 (isolation #46) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:52 pm

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In post 355, Lovebird wrote:
In post 349, rb wrote:didnt even realise reaperofsouls existed in this game
Ya, that's a big scum sign.
In post 350, rb wrote:he seems ok from skimming his iso for like 2 minutes tho
I thought you said his readslist was scummy before?
not reaper's bujabers
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Post Post #360 (isolation #47) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:55 pm

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nah reaperofsouls isn't scum

i think clemency is town, and to me reaper not just sitting on his wagon and idling when he easily could with other people being vocal about it would have been something most scum would ride out just a little bit

but instead he saw something better than rvs vote and went for it

bujaber on the other hand is pretty much lazytunneling

> sticks to rvs vote for rvs reasons, he hasnt actually expanded on anything beyond his rvs reasoning on clemency which everyone realises is NAI
> he is apparently scumreading anyone who scumreads him or who says that his push is bad

i think hes not aware how obvscum it is but bujaber should not live if he keeps playing this way
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Post Post #362 (isolation #48) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:10 am

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im perfectly readable
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Post Post #364 (isolation #49) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:12 am

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what are the reasons clemency is still bad after rvs
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Post Post #365 (isolation #50) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:13 am

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wow im getting multiple slots confused in this game
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Post Post #366 (isolation #51) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:14 am

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LOL

wat am i doing
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Post Post #367 (isolation #52) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:14 am

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dont ask why but reaper and bujaber i've been reading as the same person for some reason
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Post Post #368 (isolation #53) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:18 am

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VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

sigh
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Post Post #383 (isolation #54) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:55 pm

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In post 382, mcqueen wrote:wait nevermind, I forgot you replaced in :facepalm:
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Post Post #402 (isolation #55) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:35 pm

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better question

why is lovebird scum?
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Post Post #420 (isolation #56) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:49 pm

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In post 416, TTTT wrote:someone should do something stupid or interesting to kick this game in the gonads
VOTE: TTTT

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Post Post #431 (isolation #57) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm

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welp, getting close to deadline

should be consolidating
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Post Post #432 (isolation #58) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:30 pm

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i have townleans on mcqueen, alonzo and lovebird

i'll vote anyone else
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Post Post #434 (isolation #59) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:59 am

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i'm more concerned about the fact that alonzo and mcqueen are voting my other townread

i'd like to hear from all 3 of lovebird/alonzo/mcqueen and consolidate where the 4 of us can agree upon
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Post Post #446 (isolation #60) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:58 pm

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ill be online later, and if alonzo/lovebird/mcqueen dont provide any substantial reads or direction for compromise my spirit vote is on whatever wagon is biggest outside of those 3
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Post Post #455 (isolation #61) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:59 pm

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VOTE: ReaperOfSouls
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Post Post #492 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:24 pm

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can my townreads not vote my other townreads
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Post Post #493 (isolation #63) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:25 pm

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In post 487, mcqueen wrote:VOTE: Alonzo this is where I want my vote placed
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why would you want to risk a no-lynch

do you townread reaper? unless you actually townread someone, you should opt for their lynch over a no lynch
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Post Post #532 (isolation #64) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:00 pm

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why would scum rush to not have a nolynch

by the logic that they're trying to camoflauge why would they not just split votes among different wagons and flake about (like half the game did)

all i can see is that your read hasn't actually changed since rvs, and anyone who disagrees with you is also likely scum. that's...ridiculous, and it's hard to take your reads seriously when you put me as scum and call that the team when i'm town, and you're scumreading one of my townreads as well

i've got a killer headache so i'm gonna lie down
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Post Post #534 (isolation #65) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:21 am

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In post 533, BuJaber wrote:Townies joke for fun and it's boring to repeat jokes. Scum joke to appear relaxed and like they don't know how to begin.
Clem copied flubber.
this whole sequence stands out to me as something i'd say as town so whatever - but what i do wonder is why you exclude the possibility that scum flubber says it and town clem thinks it's funny, or that they're just..both town

i can't really understand why that's so unreasonable because town are dumb and i tend to look a lot more at what players don't do than whether or not they're dumb, because dumb just isn't AI (unfortunately)
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Post Post #535 (isolation #66) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:26 am

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also i think you're probably overrating how experienced i am or whether or not i actually do make all that many cogent and explanatory posts

i really don't have a good ability to lay out my thought processes and exact reasonings for things, because i play off a combination of gut and contextual clues. i can't really say that i've ever looked at a game like "blah did X and Y which therefore likely means possibility A because town like to X and scum like to Z and he did X not Z" bladibla

i just look at stuff and ask myself, "do they feel like town or scum and what are they NOT doing?"

that's about it really. i just try to push the game towards the ends i want with sheer force of will
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Post Post #640 (isolation #67) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:50 pm

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i forgot this was a game

so bored

VOTE: clemency

just get it over with. i think flubber is a better lynch but i've been sick don't have the energy to debate in this game
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Post Post #642 (isolation #68) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:16 pm

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VOTE: Flubber

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Post Post #644 (isolation #69) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:43 pm

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maybe

id be fine with lynching either bujaber or firebringer too if im honest

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