Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Vedith]

Never fear, Vedith is here!

[Vedith]

So who am I lynching?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Pink Ball

[Vedith]

@Vedith: Why PB?

Because I'm top voted and I got worried and panicked.
You should vote with me.

[Vedith]

4/9 votes makes you worried and panicked, when there's not really any concrete pressure on you, and we're not close enough to deadline to just default to you, and as a replacement people tend to give you room to breathe if a deadline isn't approaching?

-Yukiteru

Thank you for the encouragement!
Should I unvote?

[Vedith]

Not really encouragement. I'm just trying to understand your perspective. How did you end up "worried and panicked"?

I'm pretty sure I've never seen you "worried and panicked", so yeah. An explanation is in order.

I don't have any thoughts on the Pink Ball slot, the previous individuals who occupied it made reasonable points about Creature, but that's about all I have to say with regards to them. So *shrug* do what you want.

-Yukiteru

Well, I'm almost half way to being lynched. That's a pretty big thing to put onto one guy.
Now, I could have made it equal and voted Gamma, but that would make me as bad as the people voting me!
One more vote on me might even make me reveal! So lets hope that doesn't happen.

Why are you not voting as of yet? And who's scum.

-Vedith

[Vedith]

I'm a beautiful princess

This avatar is a thing of beauty and I want to protect it. We're definitely not going to vote Pink Ball today.

-Yuuri

Does the same go for me?

[Vedith]

I love your honesty. here's a reward:

UNVOTE:

That was a little easy. What if I was lying?

[Vedith]

Hello! \o

[Vedith]

So, are you stating a firm town readon Gamma? Given that in a universe where you're town, the only way you voting Gamma is as bad as being voted by others is if they're town? Also, the only way those others are bad is if they're town, so are you townreading all those voting for you?

No, I just like Gamma as a person.
Also I don't rate Almost for the unvote! Other than that, anyone voting me probably is scum or has a 90% chance of being scum. I'll lynch them after I decide who is lynched today though.

I'm not voting because I don't? If I'm voting early in the game it's because I'm making a deliberate choice to go against my own meta for some reason, and no such reason exists as of yet. No particularly strong scum feelings anywhere. Creature points are valid, as stated, but nto good enough to conclude someone is scum. I have mastina thoughts that I don't feel like sharing with everyone. And clemency hasn't actually done anything to make me feel any better about them, but that's also super weak and not worth pursuing.

I don't really like this. You get 2
It tells me nothing about your opinion on the game while trying to look like it's very detailed.
When is your other head getting on?

[Vedith]

Should I claim?

[Vedith]

if you obvtown enough to satisfy me i think i can dissipate your wagon
i do think your entrance is town
why are you so eager to claim? it should generally be avoided

Okay I won't claim!
But worrying over me should be put after convincing me to vote reasonably psychotic.

[Vedith]

People keep being dumb and asking for more details, when I've already stated where I'm at. *shrug*

If it helps I haven't read the game yet.

And the other head part was just me being a jerk, that was uncalled for as I'm reformed, on a side note of course.

Do you think I should lynch Spike and Jet? I think they are trying to buddy up to me, so I can take them under my wing.

[Vedith]

I will say, however, there is a bit of concern that Spike and Jet might be buddying you, which is setting up a few flags.

I have this exact same feeling. Even more so that it's Xtoxm that was posting.

[Vedith]

Now it's Creature posting. So what do you think?

My point was you wouldn't ever try to buddy up to me because you know it's most likely a waste.

[Vedith]

Omg it’s vedith! I’m dead!!!

Aight, for real time to catch up. Been inactive here for too long

I was originally sad when I thought you actually replaced out. \o/

[Vedith]

The only thing I don't understand with Spike and Jet is their thought process with me.
Tells me they can stop the wagon
I call it buddying
They call me town for it
Chito and Yuuri say again that I should be lynched
Spike and Jet vote

Something here just doesn't add up.

[Vedith]

Okay right now I'm at this.
VOTE: Almost50

Challenge me.

[Vedith]

A50 is town guys.

Why?

[Vedith]

Actually don't worry, half your posts are "this person is town".
Your comment is void.

[Vedith]

And there's a confidence level to the A50 read that is exclusive to him.

Go on then, sell it.

[Vedith]

I am \o

[Vedith]

I think that entire exchange with cowboy bebop and vedith never makes sense if they're w/w

Who's that?

[Vedith]

Page 14 now. Clem and Toog are town. mastina makes me paranoid but I think she's town. Joan of Arc at first I thought "man this is the easiest scum catch of them all" but now I think she's town. Spike and Jet probtown. No good reads on other players 'cause they're far better than me (Near x Mello, Dunn, Morality and A50; I have good vibes on all 4 of them, but I can't be trustful there yet). Gamma Emerald scum gutread. Didn't like SSBF's entrance but not one of my top scumreads. Torque and Elena Fisher both scummy.

Reasons will be a good shout.

[Vedith]

Claims do not=alignment you shouldn't care what his claim is. Either you townread the slot or you don't.

Of course you should care.
The question would then be, do we lose out of the potential role more, or lose out on the lynch.

[Vedith]

Go on. Why do you scumread A50.

Yay someone asked! \o/
The unvote was most likely a hop off the sinking ship. It's not unusual for me to be the main attraction to the death tunnel day 1, so why stay on?
The reason of me panicking, I can't see this being bought by anyone who has played with me previously, yet it was apparently a really good answer to stop voting.

Originally Almost looked to be pushing the game, and when it looks to have little to no pressure on them, it's a bunch of worthless and empty typing.
That said, the game state is in a bad shape, so it's plausible that this is void, but I'm still going with tut tut.

That's all I have as I don't want to vote Gamma yet.

[Vedith]

Any claim can be from town or scum. The only time you should let a claim go is if it's a self-resolving claim. That's how I play it although I know others disagree

I agree to the level of, if they are scum to you they are scum to you.
However, if it's a case of plausible scum then hearing what they have to offer if good.
Plus, where else would you suggest the vote? Gamma?...

[Vedith]

Vedith, there's little reason to claim, and little reason to keep posturing around your claim.

You release I was never going to claim, right?

[Vedith]

What about this gamestate is bad to you? The way you’re saying that it appears that it’s affecting your read on A50 is that true? A lot of this point feels like reasons you’re explaining your own actions then the scumread on A50 but I somewhat understand

Well, for a start look at how long someone took to ask me why Almost, considering I'm top voted you would expect a bit more.
But this is my point to the game, since I joined in (I take no blame though) majority players are doing fuck all. So the fact that Almost had better looking posts until as of recent means I shouldn't use that as a reason to thing of him as scum... However much I want to.
But it feels like everyone has already finished day 1 and happy to go with whatever.
It's also sad that my biggest current scum read goes ahead because of an unvote on me. But that's how it is.

[Vedith]

i could see this as scum x scum

I don't see it.

[Vedith]

By the way, the votecount is AWFUL, what's up with all the vanity votes? Is scum getting caught with that?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Yeah I'm not a fan of the Gamma voting.
He hasn't done anything that's outside of NAI and he's a lazy push.

What I don't get with you Pink Ball is your Gamma read is gut and Mastina you seem to believe/put across that you have a valid Scum read yet vote Gamma.
That's most likely because Gamma is by far the easier lynch of the 2 and gives you a chance tomorrow to just say, well Mastina just isn't paired with Gamma on a town flip.

Infact I read every read of you're as a safety read.
Why's Morality Scumlean for you?

[Vedith]

Chito: Can you expand on Vedith leantown?

Being honest on feeling pressured and I liked SSBF posts were he put a lot of effort to explain what his stances were.

My feeling pressured was an out right lie though. I've said this already.
Plus why can't Scum feel pressured and admit it into that same situation?

[Vedith]

"He hasn't done anything that's outside of NAI and he's a lazy push"; first statement has nothing to do with my read on him. I've stated that I've read a lot of his games and I got a clean sheet reading him, so my gut read makes me comfortable. Saying it's a lazy push is your opinion, and I don't respect it 'cause I haven't seen much coming from you to value it.

About why Gamma and not mastina: I'm not getting a mastina lynch on D1. You don't lynch mastina on D1. Have you played with mastina before?

When people use gut and feel happy over it then that's lazy.
It shows you have no intention on sorting him to see if wrong or right.

I've played with Mastina yes. I've played with many people that don't tend to get lynched day 1. That would never stop me wanting to lynch them if their Scum to me.

[Vedith]

Doesn't matter if it was a lie, since you admitted it was a lie when people like A50 townread you for it makes it even more townie. Are you not liking me townreading you?

I'm trying to decide if your motive is genuine or just trying to take high ground.
I haven't decided yet.

[Vedith]

Probably because I’m a lurk sack. I haven’t had the time to catch up.

So like any non Scum role you play in.

[Vedith]

Maybe I'm using "gut" wrong. It's more like a metaread that I can't explain too much, that has given me good results everytime. It's not the best of ways to read someone, but if it works, I can't help it and go for it.

Oh then we don't agree on how to play with mastina here. mastina has to be solved by PoE or by what is she trying to achieve, and you need some flips before having confidence in both of those two solutions.

Okay, can you go through why each of the town people in your list are town? Excluding gut or metaread though.

[Vedith]

Pink Ball(3) ~ Gamma Emerald(53), Joan of Arc(27), Robert2424(13)

I'm confused, when does Gamma vote PB?

[Vedith]

I'm at work so catch up after if no time before \o/

[Vedith]

VOTE: mastina

Pumped for this

Oh then we don't agree on how to play with mastina here. mastina has to be solved by PoE or by what is she trying to achieve, and you need some flips before having confidence in both of those two solutions.

What you really meant is your case isn't strong enough for the lynch so you will wait until others start voting there.

VOTE: Pink Ball

[Vedith]

I didn't say you CAN'T lynch mastina on D1, I'm saying you SHOULDN'T.

Votes anyway.

[Vedith]

I'm not being inconsistent.

You should vote me if I'm Scum because we're both at 5 \o/

[Vedith]

Weekend stuff made me mentally drained. No prod \o/

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: Pink
Changed my mind

[Vedith]

TvT move on.
I'm helping \o/

[Vedith]

Getting mixed up on setup or roles etc when in multiple games is not strange.

[Vedith]

It is when one of them is a UPick which by its very nature is VTless.

Not at all.
If your in a mindset else where you can easily carry it over.
Stop trying to use NAI reasons. You're just wrong.

[Vedith]

The whole Mastina and Pink Ball shit is never flipping any thing other than TvT.
So basically the choices for me to vote without having a wasteful vote on a 1 man train is on myself, Mastina, Pink or Gamma.
I don't think Gamma is Scum.

Spike and Jet, why are you only trying to get Drixx to do stuff when half the players aren't?

[Vedith]

Why are you only asking Spike and Jet when multiple people have attempted to push him to do stuff?

-Yukiteru

Because Spike and Jet are literally just voting where others say to.

[Vedith]

Okay I'm going to reveal and we can just get my lynch over with.

Personally I feel at a loss as all the wagons feel town and are just bad.

I am Fuko Ibuki

Unlocked from night 1 - each day

and

night I can target someone to give a wooden starfish to.
Unlocked from night 2 - if someone has 3 or more wooden starfish on them i can protect them but they will forget and lose all wooden starfish (message says about 'forgetting something important' to the player).
Unlocked from night 3 - when targeting a player to give a wooden starfish to, I can also target a second target that has no wooden starfish to also receive one.

So i confirmed the following.
My protect works for the day phase or the night phase and I can use this action instead of giving out starfish. The protection does not prevent a lynch.
Nothing happens if a player receives 4 or more starfish, all are still lost when protected.
If my second target has a starfish only the original player will receive a starfish.
There is no message for receiving a starfish to the player, only when protected.

I'm helping \o/

[Vedith]

Are people aware of having received starfish, and their current starfish count?
Does the protection prevent 1 kill, all kills, or something in between?
If targets are aware of being sent starfish, are they aware of the l.oss of said starfish?
Can you send a starfish to someone the same phase that you protect someone?
Can you protect multiple slots who have sufficient starfish in the same phase? How about in a day/night cycle, one for each?

I'll confirm.
To my knowledge they only know when they lose the starfish.
I cannot send a starfish and protect, but I can protect day and night in a row if there are enough players with 3+ starfish

[Vedith]

I do \o/

[Vedith]

At least I got people discussing. I think that was really needed given we had less than a day.

[Vedith]

I would have picked Saitama if I joined from the start. I bet that's a shocker \o/

[Vedith]

Lol at mastina thinking I'll engage with her after the shitfest she dragged me into.

Already said it, I'll say it again: if people is compromising with Vedith, I think it's better voting me in that case. My role is basically worthlesd 'cause the scumteam won't try to nightkill me now that they know I'm a BP and I'll be WIFOM material until I get mislynched. Better make it today than tomorrow.

Just stop. You're obvious town and Scum need to deal with you at some point or another.

[Vedith]

Well I'm your counterwagon and you're town too, and one with a better role than mine

Doesn't mean anything. There should be a better counter wagon.

[Vedith]

Yikes!

[Vedith]

Okay, I hated my lore so I made it better. \o/

[Vedith]

But this isn't the first time I big goofed as town.

[Vedith]

did you just admit to lying

Yes
My role is right just hated the lore.
Lets get on with the show.

[Vedith]

the lore? like.. your flavour text?

Yeah, the flavour.

[Vedith]

i dont even care what your real flavour is
why would you lie about it
no matter how bad it is you're not the one with shit anime taste, its ssbf

I like to be fun. And using Dr. Kuseno would have been obvious.

[Vedith]

I fully understand

[Vedith]

Drixx is never scum here.

[Vedith]

Oh scum were getting away no matter what considering none of our wagons today have been on scum.

[Vedith]

@Vedit: Seriously? If you flip town, I'm going to use this as one of my numerous examples of why town always sucks, and never deserves to win. (I have similar examples for scum as well.)

Surely at this point of my MS time I just have a page of my own.

[Vedith]

I don't know.

[Vedith]

Yes I did a silly! It's not far different to my real just better lore overall.

[Vedith]

It was my own fault.
Happy to self hammer if days run it's course

[Vedith]

You're all beautiful people and I wish town and scum good luck \o/

[Vedith]

Chito: Are we sure that Vedith does things with reasons?

I like to be fun \o/

[Vedith]

Chito: was you a jester?

No, I was naughty!

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith
I sleep now in game and in life.

Good luck you all! \o/

[Vedith]

Thanks for the game all and the ks for letting me replace in Tatsuya \o/